Hobbywing Quicrun Fusion brushless motor/esc combo review

We review the Quicrun Fusion 2 in 1 motor esc and see if this is the best brushless motor system. We check if this is the best brushless motor and esc combo and compare to hobbywing axe 1800kv. Buy it here: snp.link/eb11cd0a
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[@RCReviewChannel]

This will sell out here at Amain so get it now: snp.link/eb11cd0a

[@dynomike11]

Had not heard about this product - thanks for your review, very informative! Just ordered one using your link :-)

[@yuthokr01]

Would you consider a Fusion 1800kv for low CG crawler builds?

[@NANNIRC]

This is really a great innovation. I'm assembling one TRX4 Sport with AXE and now you announce this.....Any how: A little step for a man but a great step in RC crawler. Ciao Nanni

[@alfredyost7972]

Kyosho has a motor ESC combo too. It is not under the Kyosho, but under Team Orion. It is the same design as what you were testing.

[@jameshankssr466]

Dynamite has been making them for a couple years now they make it sound like its something new and its not

[@old-rcplane-phart]

I prefer any reviews YOU do over anyone/everyone else's! 👍

[@RCReviewChannel]

thank you. Try to keep it fun and balanced!

[@JoeOvercoat]

I am an accidental Hobbywing fan from way back and this alone justifies my loyalty.

[@LemonsCraftMC_GAMING]

Me trying to listen to him talking: The Savox servo in the background: *EEEEEEEERRRRRREEEEEEAAARREEEERREEERRRREEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR*

[@RCReviewChannel]

Traxxas 330 allegedly. :)

[@jhawk1985]

All of my Savox servos do this and it drives me nuts. My Reefs dosent though 😁

[@kevinwhite6176]

I'm thinking about getting my first crawler and am torn between kit and RTR. This thingy is more money than a Perfectly Good Brushed Combo however it looks completely perfect in everything I've seen about it. Also your reviews are great. :)

[@keithlea6804]

I just ordered a 2200 fusion 2in1. I have watched dozens of reviews and read through hundreds of comments and only found 2 ligit complaints about this and there corrected from the manufacturer. On the 9 th i will have mine from amain hobby. 😀

[@Endlesszem]

I have 2 and they are a fantastic upgrade. Hello from Lake Wales Florida

[@jeffreyd5129]

Now you have a crawler/basher combo! 🙂👍 Nice wheelie! 😎

[@ethanh3421]

I actually really like this combo. Even in 2022 it’s great! I’d love to see a higher kv option though….

[@Wagenmeister]

Good review will be waiting on the follow up video. Wonder what lies Holmes will be doing in his review. Really like it that you do honest non biased reviews.

[@Fyxxterzc]

They need to make a 1/24 micro version of this for scx24s

[@gangsterHOTLINE]

man if they could jam the esc into the motor for the 24 we'd be in business. Hell go ahead and jam the receiver in there too.

[@marcochavanne4749]

I think I saw a brushless conversion for them on eBay for $150. I'd rather buy another SCX24 for the money lol

[@Fyxxterzc]

@@marcochavanne4749 that was for a sensored brushless. You can do a sensorless setup for around 40 if you already have a decent transmitter and receiver. Probably 100 for a decent esc, brushless motor, and new transmitter and receiver. And at that point I'd probably agree it's better to get a second one. I converted one of mine to brushless and it's more of a basher than a crawler now. I enjoy it though.

[@gangsterHOTLINE]

@@Fyxxterzc I just got my 2204 1400kv and Furitech Tegu and pretty excited to see what can be done with what basically is no longer a SCX24 but some sort of airplane crawler spawn.

[@johnr8856]

Thank you for the review. Watching the TRX4 maintain constant crawl speed climbing over the weight sold me. Light controller will reside in factory ESC location. Ordered via link.

[@GazVanDyk]

If I was going brushless I would definitely consider this. Thanks for the review.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Glad I could help

[@jonthomas8487]

The lady singing on your music sounds like she’s saying “uninstall”🤣

[@RCReviewChannel]

Schiiiit, now i'm gonna hear that probably.

[@jrc-fabs1634]

Hahahah

[@nathanstrong4359]

Can not unhear....

[@Squintz45]

phones iPhones iPhones, phones iPhones iPhones is all I hear every time lol

[@JoeOvercoat]

“all uninstalls” even, which kind of works!

[@danielslow659]

Love your channel bro. Love the passion u have for the hobby. The ONLY thing is rubbish in the Fusion is every time motor or ESC goes you Will need to buy both again. But Guess that Will be good for someone.

[@rctrailcats3492]

Nice! I really trust your reviews. On my Capra. I put the Hobbywing ESC on a piece of lexan and fastened it to the inside of the passenger cage. Plenty of room. =)

[@RCReviewChannel]

really appreciate that tip.

[@floridatrailfinders9961]

Hey you should do a pre- runner build! Something between a trophy truck and a crawler. I've never seen it done before. That's a dream build for me!

[@RCReviewChannel]

Cool idea

[@LargeeeScaleLife]

The only issue with this I see is if something were to break you have to replace the unit however I really see the use in this for tight situations or ones where you need to save space I think that is where this unit really shines. Would you suggest is if you were doing a trail finder to set up with the interior kind of like you’re doing with your Marty McFly build seems like it would definitely save you some space

[@StefsEngineering]

That is impressive! It looks very similar to the performance of a CNC servo motor/driver (minus the positional control) Thanks for sharing

[@jrc-fabs1634]

I’ve been watching for a while now but I lm bout to sub!

[@CharlieSuangka]

Francis! Man! Rad RC collection and your super dope R/C channel! :). Cheers sir! You'll have to come out for one of our 2nd Sunday Trail Days!

[@peterthibault6533]

Excellent job as always, keep it coming with the great info..

[@dalvinheyninck7554]

Not really interested in buying it for my hardcore crawlere. Whenever in the AXE combo 1 complement fails you can simply replace it. Here with this fusion you will have to replace the whole system. But still good foor just scaling 👍🏻

[@gonncalomariamonteiro4176]

The question is should we avoid, consider, shortlist or just go ahead and buy it?

[@6vegan6]

Good comment, carwow 😁👍

[@GrimJerr]

the XERUN XR10 ESC and G3R Motor Combo I got were defective, and Hobbywing was no help with troubleshooting problem. RETURNED FOR REFUND

[@artministratorle]

Very good video - as always. I have the HW FOC Axe 540 2300kV in my TRX4 and am super happy with it, in case of "what to buy NOW" i think i would consider (or go) with the Fusion system, as Bluetooth is nice but i don´t really need for a crawler after once finding its sweet spot. Also 50 bugs cheaper and "more integrated / less cables / in some Rig´s better weight balancing possible". Wondering if the standard 540 combo performs (noticable) any different than the "standard" Axe Combo. Nice to see any innovation, Motor/ESC "in one" i find much more "useful" than the ESC/Receiver combinations (what axial did).

[@flyingdream777]

Best demo so far on this tech, thanks, I am getting one from my local hobby shop here in Australia.

[@adamkaser4759]

3s max voltage. 1200 and 1800 kv options. Heat should not be a crawling issue at those limits. I guess gearing up too high ( if even possible) would be the downfall in the heat department. It is a good option for some imo.

[@davidreed3724]

Very good concept if it can dissipate the heat good and have lasting durability. You would have figured the racing world would have been using this concept for weight loss and distribution purposes. Leads me to thinking they will heat each other up and have too much thermal loss. Just thinking out loud. Great concept for multiple applications if they don't over heat each part packed together. Great video!

[@RCReviewChannel]

Great point! I think the key here is they designated crawler application only. The heat demands are usually very low. There's heat sink and fan options too. And pinion.

[@davidreed3724]

@@RCReviewChannel This concept should take off if they can keep the heat under control and not interfering with each other's part. A job well done on the info and presentation!

[@woppini]

This is sorta like those double stacked washer dryer combos. When one goes out, all of it goes out.

[@mickd8188]

It's a fair point but if your worried you would install something traditional. These are perfect for scale builds with full interior and limited room for electronics, and you still get some really good performance included. Most high quality electronics are super reliable now a days. I've seen one of these pulled a part, they're super waterproof and built well with good sized shielded bearings, ran really cool in a 6 to 7 lb truck on hot day.

[@GhostRider-ii7tz]

Thank you for the info.i was looking at that system.for my new build.

[@andyrichey1192]

Thank you. I was thinking about getting one . I'll watch for more review

[@RCReviewChannel]

Yes, we'll try to overheat it and see what it takes.

[@xeno3470]

I love this man for no reason

[@billderas3420]

Good job FC. Very interesting motor/ESC alternative from Hobbywing.

[@RCReviewChannel]

not too bad huh?

[@Squintz45]

I have driven the Axe stuff and it is great. My only issue with the brushless crawler stuff is drag brake, specifically on a steep decline when transitioning from brake to part throttle. VS a brushed system the brushed motor feels good where the brushless feels a bit weird on the transition. I have not had the opportunity to test the Axe here so would be curious if you could check that out for us. =) Thanks!!!1!

[@aiwaloki]

But can I plug my led lights into it? Lol. I love it. Still running brush w/ hobbywing 1080.

[@RCReviewChannel]

yas! Tap that power wire or go through the receiver.

[@ma-t6949]

1080 kicks ass bro

[@KTMcaptain]

It’s controlling the stator’s polarity to control the rotor... so both! . Btw, lower kv does not mean more torque. All else equal, gearing, voltage, and weight, a higher kv motor will make more torque and have a higher rpm. Gear a lower kv motor up to the same wheel speed as a higher kv motor or raise the voltage to get the same rpm and it will make the same power. Lower kv motors allow for more voltage which in turn brings more torque. . Kv is basically the resistance of the motor. Lower kv reduces the possible current, since voltage = current times resistance (v=ir), as it raises resistance. . Ask Señor Holmes.

[@jameshankssr466]

You are wrong KV is rpms per volt it has nothing to do with Resistance senor holmes lied to you

[@KTMcaptain]

@@jameshankssr466 kv does mean rpm per volt but lower kv = more resistance all else equal just as I wrote... unless you think longer thinner wire has the same resistance as shorter thicker wire. . It’s not a coincidence that the lower the kv rating is the higher the resistance goes all else equal. . Resistance isn’t the only thing that determines rpm. The size and shape of magnetics, quality of parts, type of winding... but generally all of those attributes are too similar even between manufacturers.

[@jameshankssr466]

@@KTMcaptain whatever! You took a simple hobby motor and turned into a complicated math equation i’ll bet you wipe your ass before you take a shit too! I’ll bet you dont have many friends either do you professor

[@marcochavanne]

My Gen 8 Axe Edition burned the motor up after a few months. I CANNOT find a replacement or upgrade motor without buying a whole kit from Hobbywing. Redcat said Hobbywing must warranty it, but Hobbywing hasnt helped in over 6 months and said I have to send everything back to them and wait a few months for replacement. Very frustrating

[@rhiamig]

I just got the 2in1had it running in my axial bomber then out of nowhere it started tho in wrong direction and malfunctioning is there any way to reset?!?!?!???!

[@stpbasss3773]

The program card the comes with it

[@Chipher233]

These Combo doesnt fit in a Capra... Because an 550 Motor doesnt fit...but if you have enaugh space, its an super choice!

[@BhutJolokias]

Spektrum makes a servo/receiver combo. You can make some seriously small footprint vehicles now.

[@mojaverc1585]

And an esc/receiver combo if i am correct. There are also stubby servos

[@KTMcaptain]

All motors are revolutionary... So are tires for that matter 🤣

[@jeffmakepeace9384]

Surely the heat off the motor will make the esc far too hot?

[@AAronFpv]

May have some applications but this modular stuff is a no go for me I like replacing just the bad parts not everything because one part went bad 🤔

[@sprather84]

I've heard these are not for heavy rigs 🤔 whats your thoughts about this? Whats a good wieght range for this system?

[@stpbasss3773]

I wouldn't put it in a heavy rig, I have it in a heavy trx4 and I'm going to take it out it gets way too hot way too fast. Crawls amazing but I'm not really impressed with it.

[@sprather84]

@@stpbasss3773 glad I went with the 2300kv 👍

[@marymalone5188]

Oh my gosh! I want one of those.

[@RCReviewChannel]

surprisingly good at first look.

[@jeffparryncc1701]

Mines coming in soon oooh.

[@jonlaird5082]

I saw this at my local hobby shop in.the 1200kv version and was curious if this would fit in the axial capra (which I just ordered online) with the so called 'interior'? I asked them if it would fit and they told me it wouldn't. But seeing how they don't sell any axial products I don't think they actually know. Dunno if it matters but I wanted to use the dig function. Thanks 😎

[@sroc3]

JUST bough this pare. wow.........hope it works as well as advertised man :)

[@TheWright1]

AMain has them in stock online. Just the 1800kv!

[@WNYOutdoorAdventures]

Looks like a sweet Upgrade 👍👍👍😎😎😎✌✌✌ EJ

[@williamstallings3969]

What is the chassis in the beginning of the video at 49 seconds? I enjoy your reviews! Thanks in advance

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

TUNED in, COOL cool cool, Stuff 👍💯

[@45acpbbb]

Looks like it could be a game changer, but will it fit in my scx10.3?

[@RC4X4]

This motor doesn't have forward/brake/reverse?

[@RCiler]

Do you think that this is strong enough for a 5kg rig? It's a 540 can after all. Is it stronger ( for the same gearing) than say a HH crawlmaster 15T?

[@icup7802]

Nice ! Hey Francis ! Have you got time to share your opinion about the boom racing brx01 and the rcw4d tf2 hilux. Future video of comparison? In depht details of each and value will be so interesting ! Thank you.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Possibility. The Boomracing though is much newer and articulates so much better. All coil to vs. all leafs that are very stiff. The TF2 is just an older, more established platform for that body. They'll go out together on many video shoots for sure.

[@icup7802]

@@RCReviewChannel Thank you very much! I love the body of the tf2 so much that I may consider buying! The boom racing also for sure because it seems so good value and quality! And a trx6 Unimog flat bed. I have a trx4 bronco and agree on many things you said about it. You got my like for this video and the next ones. Thank you.

[@Raguvian]

I wish they had a higher kv version but I guess they couldn't get a powerful enough ESC in there.

[@timwilliams9865]

How is the heat absorption with this has it been tested yet? Very cool if can deal with conditions well thank you for all the info

[@paulgreen3222]

Great video and info, thank u

[@jburgess5]

I'm looking forward to seeing how well the drag brake works on the defender. I have a hobbywing 1080 ESC on my trx4 but it will not hold the defender while going downhill. My drag brake is set at 100%. I hope you do a drag brake test.

[@RCReviewChannel]

great call

[@runnerbaba]

@@RCReviewChannel yeah. And Auto Drag Brake Test. Fusion does not have it. Only the steps like The 1080

[@mickd8188]

Drag brake holds solid like the axe system

[@maximshish3216]

Thanks for video - very interesting. Right now I'm choos what upgrade parts to buy for TRX-4 sport. And this combo is perfect. But I see one major disadvantage. If something go wrong and ECS will broke - it would be impossible to replace it. If you have separate box with ECS - it's not a problem, just disconnect it from motor, buy new one and run again. But in this "2-in-1" case - it's not an option. Does this package includes programm LED card?

[@cheneyrcgarage]

Yes it includes a program card. I can’t recommend this set up enough! Put it in my trx4 and it’s amazing

[@maximshish3216]

​@@cheneyrcgarage I already waiting this set up for my TRX-4 sport!

[@timoortrinnessvkasha1043]

Hi...do u have settup for slow punch at startup and forward speed...i think too much punch and too faster for me...rply plz

[@floridatrailfinders9961]

Check out terra crew f250 pre- runner build on KZbin.

[@RCReviewChannel]

will do.

[@Bryansky8]

Where does lights connect on this?

[@rccrazy3576]

how much is the maximum weight that this motor can move, if the rc is full of metal and heavy

[@theautumnwind2152]

OK but why? Packaging is easier with a separate esc/motor and heat soak is more of a problem with this setup. Less wires are good sure.... shorten them. Why is the switch separate if AIO is the concept? Might as well have the switch built in too.

[@LowGainElectronics]

Very interesting. Curious what it’s BEC output is capable of supplying to the Servo

[@mickd8188]

6.0v/7.4v at 4 amps continuous pretty good considering its an all in one. Cheers 👍

[@austinhamilton07lbz]

Do you recommend this over the axe system in my SCX10 iii if price doesn't matter?

[@713Ace529]

Is there space for the trx sport. Could you please check it on your green truck.

[@richysrc2158]

You said you can't fit the hobby wing axe in your capra unless you have the interior out ? You can in my capra the esc is on the battery tray and have the interior in place 👍. Its tight but all fits together fine

[@RCReviewChannel]

appreciate that insight.

[@richysrc2158]

@@RCReviewChannel if I could show you a picture I would 🤣

[@martinneps9387]

I am looking for king black Foot RC truck parts are you able to help me front and parts maybe you have something kicking around Please comment back

[@MrDevo5]

Got the 1200kv one coming

[@RCReviewChannel]

good, good. More torque!

[@SevenWelt]

Great👍

[@brianonthego]

Will this fit in a Capra?

[@6JWB9]

Thanks for the video. I'm very interesting now. So there are two versions 1200kv and 1800kv. Which one do you recommend for crawling and why?

[@outlawfpv1551]

Hi there. Will this combo fit in the new scx10 iii?? Thanks

[@sandivliyanage8573]

Can i know if its a good combo for a trx6 cuz i am really interested in having a brushless.

[@sandivliyanage8573]

Have u tried it? What do u think of heating issues

[@sandivliyanage8573]

@Lua Dipa what do u think of heating issues cuz its 540 sized motor not a 550.

[@RCReviewChannel]

Not ideal. All our TRX6's in the group have a 550 can 3300kv Hobbywing and it is ideal! So much power and control even for bashing.

[@stpbasss3773]

Yah definitely dont put this in a trx6

[@SierraCrawler530]

How do you get the traxxas light set to work with the new quickrun fusion motor/esc combo i cant figure it out any info much appreciated thanks

[@TDR-RC]

Check this out, Nathan. Got it to work for my TRX 6 and Hobbywing Axe. Remember to set your BEC to 6.0V too so you don't burn out your micro servos. theo-deroza.com/how-to-connect-traxxas-trx-4-or-trx-6-lights-when-using-hobbywing-esc/

[@KTMcaptain]

This is the same price as the micro x crawler. It’s a neater package, but can’t handle as much power and can’t change motors. This is definitely a great idea for ultra clean scalers, but I’d like to see it pushed further with a higher kv and voltage handling.

[@shawndoucet4751]

so its just like my orion DDrive motor/esc combo but newer!

[@RCReviewChannel]

maybe the first for crawlers specifically

[@DirtyRC101]

Great review, what i hate about the trx-4 is that when you go really slow i hear this really high pitch note (iiiiiiiiiiiiii, yeah, something like that..) and it gets super annoying when you are standing close with the camera recording... This alone is a blessing to my ears.. I am interested in what the aprox runtime will be with a 5000mah lipo?

[@stpbasss3773]

That's the stock motor

[@DirtyRC101]

@@stpbasss3773 Yes, i know, it´s collecting dust now.

[@DannyRc]

Very nice 👌

[@23allenrj]

Do you think this will fit into the AXIAL SCX10 3 JLU RTR without any other modifications ?

[@runnerbaba]

no problem

[@23allenrj]

@@runnerbaba can I use the stock motor ?I want to change only the esc and receiver

[@raymonde.tanneratomic-rc9370]

What's the difference between the 1200 and 1800

[@limchoonhai7637]

I am assembling my capra, now looking for a motor system .will this fusion fit into capra..?

[@jameshankssr466]

No it wont its too long it hits the lower arm mount

[@manchu9inf]

can you run a 9 tooth pinion with this in the trx-4?

[@jonthomas8487]

So the 540 version of the Axe wasn’t torquey enough for a TRX4 but this is?

[@RCReviewChannel]

It has the same torque as far as we know. This is only available in 1800kv right now. The 540 Axe has 1200kv, 1800kv and 2300kv versions. Great torque, rpm, not so high.

[@jonthomas8487]

RC Review but I think the 550 size is better for the TRX4 right

[@nexus7138]

@@RCReviewChannel The rotor is not a staggered design. So actually this new motor have a little more torque then the old axe 540 ;)

[@KTMcaptain]

The esc is so small they likely can’t run it with a higher kv motor. This is a cool idea, but I’d like to see it further. . Imagine a 42mm wide can with a 20mm diameter and 20mm long rotor operating on 8s and 1200kv. That would give a peak of 40,000 rpm, similar to a 3500kv on 3s, but with much lower current needed to reach the same power output. You can even tell the esc to increase voltage only when the amperage level is within spec so that it won’t build up too much heat since current creates heat. . Just a thought.

[@toddn.3123]

This is a huge upgrade over my stock motor/esc for my Element Enduro Trailwalker. Made a video of it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJe8gqOirtlnfqM

[@KTMcaptain]

Todd N. This motor and esc is a huge upgrade... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3LGkHl3bs6pfJY . 0-15mph with tons of control and on radio adjustments. That’s on 4s. On 6s it’s way more powerful and can hit over 20mph.

[@1ubby]

Been done before

[@jameshankssr466]

This is nice! But when one burns out you have have to replace both if they are separate you only replace one so no i wont buy one

[@RCReviewChannel]

This is half the price and it is very difficult to burn a Hobbywing brushless

[@jameshankssr466]

@@RCReviewChannel hobbywing makes very good products thats all i own but this is not half the price not one of my hobbywing setups cost more than $100 for both esc and motor

[@Mr450pro]

Nice! Will it fit in my Capra?

[@jameshankssr466]

No it wont theres not enough room in the capra

[@babupranav]

These are equivalent to sensorless brushless motors correct?

[@illusive5811]

Both are sensored

[@spragu5209]

Will this fit in the new Axial SCX 10.3?

[@runnerbaba]

yes

[@rageflorc7132]

Would you prefer this combo to the puller pro stubby matched with a mamba x micro on an scx10.3?

[@warren6814]

How many volts can it supply to the receiver?

[@mickd8188]

6.0v/7.4v at 4 amps continuous

[@warren6814]

@@mickd8188 thanks!

[@aliomar7477-mr]

where i can buy that sir..??

[@kush6891]

Just burn mine smell really bad ibdobt know what blow uo esc ir motor they were stock both were hot