Hobs & Boggarts in Derbyshire Folklore

[@Cat211984]

Lovely, as a Northumbrian residing in Derbyshire, it was very interesting to learn some lore relating to my adoptive home. Thank you!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Glad you enjoyed! It was a shame I could only spend a day down there!

[@merciansupremacy5113]

​​@@TheJollyReiver yes there is so much to see in the Peak District. You'd need a solid week to really do it justice. Its landscapes are unique and diverse.

[@TheJollyReiver]

@merciansupremacy5113 For sure. I was blown away how many stone circles and barrows were in that part of Derbyshire alone

[@davidhowe6905]

4:47 It's all relative! I grew up in London, and my father said (jokingly) that 'the north' was anything north of Watford.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Aha I know it too well. I think ‘the south’ is anything below the Tyne tbh 😂

[@GravesRWFiA]

I thought 'hob' was an old english term for ther fireplace, so a hobgoblin was a house faerie, like a brownie, that stayed close to the hob/fireplace when not helping around the house.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Aye many different variations of what the term means. Varying hugely in different regions too. You’re right in thinking that must seem to be associated with the home though

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Hobs, Boggarts, Hobgoblins etc might be folklore from the Anglo Saxon tribes which came to Britain from the continent, the Nordic countries also have folklore of little sprites and spirits which sometimes offer help or act maliciously if mistreated or disrespected. But so much history is forgotten and lost it's hard to say with certainty, but there does seem to be some common theme with north western European folklore

[@GravesRWFiA]

weirdly a 'hobgoblin' is helpful but a gobblin, is not@@the98themperoroftheholybri33

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

Hob means have. Nob means have not. It's the ancient Saxon tongue. A Hob Goblin is a greedy Goblin.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

@@anvilbrunner.2013 so hobnob biscuits are "have nots"

[@spacegirl226]

5:44 is just the best! I can imagine the chills you probably felt while sitting on that rock and letting your imagination run wild. My ancestors walked that land. Though I can't walk it myself, I am immensely grateful that you did and showed it to us. Thank you, kind Reiver.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks for your kind comment! I’m glad you enjoyed!

[@racheljames7]

Watching your videos feels like drinking a lovely cup of tea; refreshing, cosy, and warm.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Very kind of you to say!

[@DenkyManner]

These on-location videos are really great

[@TheJollyReiver]

Glad you like them!

[@smartman123]

love these old empty village road in great Britain greetings from Lebanon 🇱🇧 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks for watching fella!

[@connorricketts1323]

delighted as always thank you for a great story and tale love this channel its a gem and love folklore stories and folklore and mythology

[@TheJollyReiver]

My pleasure mate

[@Dahaka-rd6tw]

@@TheJollyReiver Here's some more folklore I'd like to see video about. Are there some that you have not heard before? Dragon of Mordiford Jack the Giant Killer Beast of Dean Cath Palug Boneless/Frittening/It of Shetland Isles Afanc

[@Jen999]

Awesome and eerie indeed, this.. and even here watching.. we were relieved that you did not enter the Hob lair as darkness approached.. that powerful feeling you called it.. was palpable to us watching.. These are so impressive.. we want to go .. we would be sure to leave gifts.. these are places one should not go alone, we think💜💙

[@TheJollyReiver]

I’m glad you enjoyed and thank you for the comment!

[@Jen999]

@@TheJollyReiver As we are Scottish/Irish.. thought we would say you are welcome in style.. so.. Se do bheatha.. Ta failte romhat💜💙

[@lauraholmes2402]

How have I only just discovered this channel? These are wonderful

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you :-)

[@BoerChris]

I was born and raised in Nottingham, just across the county border. I remember a school trip to Arbor Low (among other sites) around 1965. In 1974, my brother and I went on a walking holiday in Derbyshire's Peak District. We came across a tumulus that had a very evil atmosphere, and were were beset by biting midges; we came away pretty quickly. My grandparents on the maternal side hailed from the coal mining district on the Notts/Derby border, but I can't remember them speaking of any local folklore. I was too young to ask back then, not having developed an interest in it yet. Anyway, thanks for a very interesting video.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Interesting story, thanks for sharing! I wonder why that place was so odd!

[@raydriver7300]

I will echo Elizabeth and repeat: your tales are delightful. And you are right; as a Geordie living in the Midlands, Derbyshire is NOT North. Keep up the good work 🌞

[@eugeneslivjack8869]

Wonderful stuff. The solitary man going places I’ll never be. Thank you sir.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you :-)

[@lazyhazeldaisy9596]

Very interesting, thanks.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@violetmoonofthenorth]

Great video thanks for sharing ✨

[@TheJollyReiver]

My pleasure :-)

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

Delightful as always.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@aariley2]

Enjoy jumping over stiles and climbing steep hills. Youth escapes much too soon. Enjoy, dear friend.❤

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you :-)

[@theendofeverything6356]

Congratulations on your excellent new video and the moustache!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks fella!

[@snoozydiddeh2364]

Stunning landscapes and very interesting, thank you 😊

[@no-oneinparticular7264]

Atmospheric is the word i would use. I miss living in rural Derbyshire . This was such a nostalgic video for me, and I thankyou.

[@TheJollyReiver]

My pleasure!

[@carolescutt2257]

My dose of cheery and entertaining medicine like treacle and honey for my ears and eyes ❤❤

[@TheJollyReiver]

Very kind of you! Thank you!

[@christianklein805]

Brilliant episode. The storytelling and cinematography are excellent. Like watching an early 20th century explorer with a better sense of the value of preserving cultural heritage. Thank you.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks for the kind comment mate!

[@Survivethejive]

Nice footage! I went to Arbor Low - beautiful place. I suspect the stones did stand as would be exceptional if all were intended to be recumbent

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers Tom, yeah I imagine they did too. I saw in a couple of books a few references that they never stood though, so was just something to ponder on!

[@JakBeeNimble]

Went by Hob’s Hill House a few years ago. Very interesting place. You can’t see Chatsworth house from what I recall but it is a nice walk back down into the estate grounds. If I recall there is a very small stone circle nearby too and it is marked on the OS maps. Great video and always interesting!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@MrMyers758]

Love this video and happy to have discovered a great folklore channel! Also have to say that is a very unique accent you have there, it sounds to by untrained ears to be fluctuating between English Midlands and Edinburgh. Really good voice to listen to!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@MalachiWhite-tw7hl]

His narration is unusually good for a non-professional.

[@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars]

Just a couple of miles away, in Monsal Dale, there's an amazing viaduct. Rising above that is a hill with an Iron-Age fort on top. A hobb is said to live up there too! There's an excellent cafe just there as well called Hobbs Cafe so you can have a brew whilst admiring the stonework of the viaduct! 😉

[@pisceanx8382]

Another beautiful and brilliant video! Also educational! You, my friend, have *the* *dream* *job*! ❤ So good to wake up on a rainy, mid-winter morning to a new Jolly Reiver video. 🙂

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed! And thanks for watching!

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

I've visited the Boggart hole near Robin Hood's bay in Yorkshire. It told me if people are going to visit him to please be respectful of his home, or he'll disrespect *your* home

[@TheJollyReiver]

I’ve been to that one one, nearly got washed away by the sea!

[@theramblingseanchai]

Another brilliant video my friend! Those were some really fascinating locations, the mossy boulders in the gorge and the cave definitely felt very magical and powerful as you said. The drone footage is looking great too, keep up the good work!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed!

[@patrioticarchive]

Thank you very much for this!

[@TheJollyReiver]

My pleasure!

[@carriageofnoreturn.1881]

I live about a mile from your last location, just over the border in Staffordshire, where we too have Hob-related tales. If I’d seen you when you were up here, I’d have gladly stood you a lunch in the local pub!

[@TheJollyReiver]

I drove through Staffordshire, nice place. I’m hoping to head there in the summer actually mate!

[@carriageofnoreturn.1881]

@@TheJollyReiver All the best parts of Derbyshire are actually in Staffordshire! The offer of lunch in the pub was genuine- and I know meeting ‘fans’ is odd, so I wouldn’t need to be there, I’d just set up a tab at the bar beforehand (as long as you didn’t bring a coach load with you and go wild! ;-) )

[@TheJollyReiver]

Oh no I’d love to take you up on the offer and I always enjoy meeting new people! How very kind of you. When I’m planning my trip I’ll give you another message on this thread and we can arrange something :-)

[@carriageofnoreturn.1881]

@@TheJollyReiver I look forward to it!

[@scotti6219]

Great content as ever keeping the old stories alive

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers mate

[@hilarykirkby4771]

Sotires such as this abound up and down the Pennines. Look up Bogart Hole Clough, Manchester, for instance.

[@mattmclafferty6265]

Awsome my friend, as usual... Cheers! Hare Krishna

[@Fell_Wanderer]

Dude, I would like to hear your take on Bigfoot and other paranormal activity in Northumberland, ATB, Fell Wanderer.

[@margarethughes3763]

The music reminds me of Noggin the Nog.. brilliant.

[@wezlo7925]

I'm a local resident all my life and I recall from somewhere that stones were standing at arbor low in living memory in the early 1900s. Never been to the thirst cave although meant often! Always the same when you live in a place, travel hours to see other places but don't see places on your doorstep. I'll let you off saying we're not northern in the top half of Derbyshire! And I'm sure there's a lot of people inYorkshire who'll just just love the south of the Tyne comment I though it was brilliant! It was a great video brilliantly filmed and caught the atmosphere of the moors and dales. There's definitely a powerful atmosphere in some of the places it's almost palpable and there's a lot of other spots round abouts with that same presence Cheers for another great video it nice to learn new facts on your channel about places I'm unlikely to visit.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks for the kind comment mate, I’m glad you enjoyed! It was my first time in this part of the country and I really loved my visit!

[@desiree6256]

For we personally being a lot into Ancient Mythology, and Folklore and some Philosophy oh how we personally would LOVE!! to travel over your way

[@tedcharter4804]

I really love these videos and learning about lore from the motherland. I may never get to visit these places so I really do appreciate your efforts.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers mate, glad you’re enjoying!

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great stuff! Many thanks :)

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you :-)

[@RedcoatsReturn]

A wonderful history of Hobs…my’ol mate….well done…always entertaining…and very well researched 😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Now…I’m looking for Hobs….in Switzerland…”Fabelwesen Hobe” here 😄😉🇨🇭🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@TheJollyReiver]

Glad you enjoyed mate!

[@mjrchapin]

That's quite a landscape!

[@TheJollyReiver]

It is indeed!

[@CrimsonsDeath12]

Finally I found the inspiration for the story of the game "Hob's barrow"!! Thomas Bateman equals Thomasina Bateman, THIS IS LITERALLY HOBS BARROW

[@maccurtis730]

This is how I travel.

[@TheJollyReiver]

The best way

[@Vingul]

Your production values have really had an amazing rise in the last year or two, I never thought about there being a lack of it in ye older days but it's really showing now! But most importantly, your vids (still) have an atmosphere of mystique and the stories are well told. Quite engrossing stuff.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers for the comment mate, appreciate the positive feedback! I’m glad you’re enjoying!

[@emmadenton9697]

Another lovely relaxing episode. Thank you 🙏

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@emmadenton9697]

@@TheJollyReiver No, thank you!! 😁

[@LaysAndLore]

Great as usual - but I'm impressed you did a whole video about Faeries without saying the word 'faery'.

[@lizaintheidgafteamlola]

oh this one was simply splendid to watch. the visuals, the highly captivating misty looking forests in 8:08, the ever-so-perfect background music that fits the scenery but isn't loud enough to distract as you speak, the calm yet intriguing narration, the story, everything. keep up the amazing videos, my guy!✨🖤

[@christianklein805]

As already stated, brilliant. But if this was a horror film it would start to get scary around 8:10 …

[@williamrobinson7435]

I would love to go into that Hob's cave. I may well do that very thing. Beautifully done as ever! Thank you Sir! ⭐👍

[@TheJollyReiver]

You should! It’s a great place!

[@comicbookguygamecat]

Great video/vlog I have been to Nottingham years ago but anyways is there any like folklore I if you have mentioned any in your past videos?

[@TheFigure71]

This area is so close to my heart and I've somehow never been to these places! I'll definitely make a trip to these spots next time I'm in the area. Keep up the great work! If you're ever in the area again it may be worth checking out the chained oak at Alston, one of the most powerful folk tales and spots around...

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed!

[@dopaminedrip]

You read joseph delaney's spook books, mucker? Great video again.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers fella, and afraid I haven’t! Are they worth checking out?

[@dopaminedrip]

@@TheJollyReiver it features a lot of other types of English folklore but boggarts are relevant throughout in a very broad way. The first few are a light read, it's definitely relevant too.

[@elliotwitch]

My new favorite youtuber! I love your videos!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@GriffinParke]

Really enjoyable video, thanks. If there's reference to "giants" it could mean the "old" gods that previously inhabited a region, similar to how the Anglo-Saxons referred to the Roman ruins in Britain as the "work of giants".

[@Vocalzone_covers]

Hi. Great video and we love your channel. Do you have any videos relating to Welsh folklore? We are visiting North Wales soon and would love to visit any sites you may know of. Thank you.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Not at the moment as wales is quite far from me but maybe one day!

[@JordanWhite-p8c]

Love you your video And keep up the good work

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you :-)

[@JordanWhite-p8c]

@@TheJollyReiver your welcome 🤗

[@saschapfluger9477]

Excellent Video, storytelling (and background music) as usual. 👍question: do you always wait for appropriate (here: foggy) Weather for your Videos? 😉

[@TheJollyReiver]

I’m just lucky that way!

[@Opel314]

Thankyou for your very own, most resent and excellent offering!

[@TheJollyReiver]

:-)

[@Crashpng]

These videos are great I’ve just discovered your channel and have been binge watching ever since, any plans on Manchester related videos?

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks mate! And not sure, I don’t really go near cities, but won’t rule anything out!

[@alasdairtaylor4441]

Great Video !

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@BCreative12]

Hello. Loves these! 🦉💖🤟🏻🌅

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@YoungSanju]

Don't stop uploading I love your videos❤

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you!

[@TheMercian13]

As a local I’ve been to Hob Hurst house. Doing Derbyshire proud here. Sadly never saw the Hob myself.

[@TheJollyReiver]

It was a shame I couldn’t spend more time down there!

[@TheMercian13]

@@TheJollyReiver when I last went it was the height of a heatwave. It was still boggy in the surrounding areas. I can see why people think weird things happen there.

[@Freakaboogie]

excellent video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! greetings from Kentucky!

[@TheJollyReiver]

Cheers mate

[@chrislaniw4729]

Another fantastic video...well done mate

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks mate!

[@westerncultureandtradition]

Mint

[@desiree6256]

Hi there just curious do you still have that video on your channel of the poor boy with the walking stick and the enchanter who borrows it and takes the boy to the hidden mound where theres a bell and the king is sleeping with all the treasure around it. Cant seem to find it was it taken down? 😕

[@KeithPrince-cp3me]

Hob is mainly a northern English term particularly concentrated around Yorkshire, the term is a dialect variant of Rob, from Robert, a name implying famous, well known, with diminutive Robin, but hob was used as a generic term for any rural person, with a slight negative connotation, rustic, yokel, country bumpkin, an unsophisticared or backward person from the countryside. Applied to the hairy, naked humanoid of folktales a Hob was similar to the lowland Scottish Bruni (that King James tranlates as Brownie "in our language" in Daemonologie, having the appearance of a rough man). On the Isle of Man the same character was known as Fenodyree, with his undomesticated, wild equivalent, the Buggane, said to push sheep over cliffs, among other things. GW Peacock refers to Brownie-like character said to live in the Lincolnshire fens though belief in it waned as the fens were drained. Although Scot (1584) describes the "hobgoblin" and was based in Kent the character is largely absent historically from southern tales, with one possible exception. Scot while based in Kent was of Scottish extraction. Scot also equates Hobgoblin with Robin Goodfellow, who, in a pamphlet of the 1600s was said to have been previously known as Willy Wisp. Robin Goodfellow has many characteristics shared with Will o the Wisp, known by various names around the country. Robin would lead unwary travellers off track into marshes leaving them stranded with a "ho, ho, ho". Gervase of Tilbury in a book of marvels, the Otia Imperialia, 13th cent., mentions small men that resided in the marshes of Essex that lived off frogs and would help out local farmers, but also had a mischevious streak, leading travellers into bogs and leaving them with a laugh, similar to the later Robin Goodfellow. Interestingly Scottish Brownies were said to have webbed feat like frogs. Terms Bogles, Boggles, Boggarts, Buganes, etc. would appear to derive from, or be related to, bog, var. bug-, as in a swamp or mire ( that's a fen, if you're a "Fennie" from East Anglia, i live in Norfolk). Always interested to learn about more northern tales, being a southerner.

[@colemanstarr5404]

"Aint no boogers out tonight cuz my daddy killed 'em al last night!" When was kid in South Carolina USA, we would go out at night and sing that. Then a grownup, designated the boogger would jump out of the trees, and we would all try to make it to the porch before he caught us. I reckon booger came from boggart. It was a rural area where most of the white folks were of English or Scottish descent.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Kellethorn]

I lived in the southern US in an area heavily settled by Scots. There were "wood-boogers" "swamp-boogers" "night-boogers", you name it, all collectively known as "boogers". Funny thing was, they each referred to some sorta cryptid or ghost, like a Bigfoot was a "woodbooger" and a poltergheist was a "housebooger".

[@garrymartin6474]

I suppose "the Stonehenge of the East Midlands" does not have much of a ring to it !

[@SharonPadget]

You remind me of a young Johnny Depp.

[@TheJollyReiver]

Thank you aha

[@BadMotivator66]

I thought it was pronounced ‘kist’

[@TheJollyReiver]

You’re right yeh, error on my part!

[@desiree6256]

Simply just want to be left alone? Yep that's what we personally want to be is left alone unless others want to help us in this western war torn world leave us alone. But yet we personally would prefer to be left alone with those whom are resting and sleeping in the underworld. Yet however forgive us if we've mentioned this before, for any historical mythological beings of each cultured country to be awaken from their sleep they must be awoken from and by the chosen and/or few chosen ones from the Gods and Goddesses