Time Team travels to the Peak District to uncover the story behind a grisly discovery; a mysterious collection of human bones in a deep cave in Derbyshire.
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@biancacastafiore3833 жыл бұрын
As a Illustrator I love the art of victor ambrus, how he can draw these big nosed iron age people instantaniously.
@judeirwin22222 жыл бұрын
Instantaneously.
@ianscott93962 жыл бұрын
Look up is history it's an amazing story.
@eboracum20125 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It's no wonder his horses leap off the page with his cavalry background...not to mention his vampires and goats/trolls.
@fredgrove42205 жыл бұрын
Time Team is the most therapeutic program ever aired on any TV channel,
@lindasue87195 жыл бұрын
fred grove Best observation, ever!
@mamavswild4 жыл бұрын
True; I’m going through depression after a great loss a couple years ago, and for a while there I was unable to sleep without time team on...it’s better now but I still like to have it on.
@amherst883 жыл бұрын
There's a great episode where they dig Saxon remains at a modern military site assisting a group of injured British soldiers who are the primary diggers -- much meaningful testimony from the soldiers about the therapeutic value of the series -- here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaCqeICkrdN5eJI
@harbourdogNL3 жыл бұрын
How utterly bizarre. And hats off to Katie & Alice archaeologists & brave babes to boot. I would't go down that cave.
@Go-Dawgs3 жыл бұрын
"What a cow has crapped in the trench has it Phil? Afraid it has Mick." My favorite conversation lol
@dalekundtz7602 жыл бұрын
Another great video done by TT. Am proud of people like Katie, Phil and others recovering these remains and showing respect for each and every life that was represented there. RIP to all the adult and children found here.
@victoriaeads61263 жыл бұрын
Andy Currant is one of my favorite occasional TT members. This guy, he's over the moon about vole teeth the way Phil is about flint tools 💜💜💜
@lizzy66125 Жыл бұрын
shame he wasn't on more episodes,only remember the Cheddar Gorge and Elveden.
@Libbathegreat Жыл бұрын
@@lizzy66125 I believe he was also in the "Bone Cave" episode in Alveston, Gloucester (s08e09). Reijer doesn't have it but it's on the official Time Team channel.
@Maunakea06 жыл бұрын
I remembered these big noses, lying awake in bed just now, I remembered watching this when I was eight or nine in the 90’s on TV. Amazed that I could find it by searching for “big nose archeology BBC”. What a world.
@sc0ttishlass5 жыл бұрын
Wow you must be a time traveller if you have seen that season of TT in the 90s as season ten was on air in early 2003
@ian_b4 жыл бұрын
@@sc0ttishlass Memory plays tricks. Maunakea probably both watched TT in the 90s as a child, and saw this on TV in 2003, and his brain constructed a memory that combines the two. This is why it's so dangerous relying purely on memory for legal cases, the further back we remember the more flaky it gets.
@patrickomeagher98684 жыл бұрын
Great show as always. Imagine though, going into a prehistoric cavern with a skull partially encased in stone in an area full of the bones of infants. A slimy, murky cave with minimal clearance all around under a foggy landscape covered in hills and boulders. It's enough to give modern people nightmares, let alone people in the past. In the misty outdoor shots, you can almost imagine faceless hooded figures and wicker golems with animal skulls and antlers. It's easy to see why ancient people thought caves like this were gateways to the underworld. I have to wonder how often the crew got the heebie jeebies.
@polaide80364 жыл бұрын
What a trooper Katie is, kudos! I'm not particularly claustrophobic, but not sure I'd get very far down in that cave.
@lindasue87195 жыл бұрын
"I made a sharpish retreat"… Not like me who would've been screaming and scrambling 😄 Seriously though, what a story! The stuff that Hollywood movies are made of!
@angelitabecerra2 жыл бұрын
Talk about an extreme excavation. Kudos to everyone working so hard to rescue archeology in this cave. Especially the ones who went down into the chambers and risked their lives.
@miekekuppen92755 жыл бұрын
Infant mortality was often high before modern medicine. Maybe putting dead infants into a narrow cave felt like putting them back into the womb, giving them a chance to be born again - either with their own mother´s next pregnancy or to a stranger.
@Inglott5 жыл бұрын
I also saw the womb-like symbology with the cave and the infant bones.
@horseradishpower99474 жыл бұрын
An interesting idea, and one that could be correct. Should be strongly considered, at any rate.
@a.westenholz40324 жыл бұрын
Burial in general has in many cultures (whether as primary or second stage of death rituals) been likened to a return to the womb. It is the whole idea of seeing the earth as a mother so whether it is in a cave, mound, in whatever shape or form, that ritual of putting them into the ground (eventually) could be conceived that way, even with those who might have been kept for generations as bones by their descendants. I think with the cave the symbolism though would have been more obvious and striking, and having better preserved all those infant bones that are usually lost just gives us a better picture of infant mortality.
@mimiboulanger23584 жыл бұрын
Beautifully expressed! This is exactly what came to mind as I was watching.
@Rincypoopoo4 жыл бұрын
Good comment. These folk were really into their ancestors.They believed in spirits. Did they remove that man's legs because he was a nasty person and they didn't want his spirit to walk ? Were the children there so that they could play together ? I suspect that Mick is correct. That was just a good place for the preservation of thin baby bone. It rots away elsewhere.
@evelyneweissenborn82316 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how terrifying it must have been as a bronze age person to crawl into those caves in UTTER DARKNESS?? Even with the benefit of electric lighting those caves looked far to treacherous for any sane person to navigate safely...perhaps more then a few of those fellows down there were not just placed buy others, but simply fell in or couldn't get out...
@diannew60665 жыл бұрын
Apparently most commenters here can't take a moment to be anything other than silly and juvenile. I wonder why they even bother to watch videos like this.
@Pauldjreadman4 жыл бұрын
We can only imagine.
@eboracum20124 жыл бұрын
@@diannew6066 Whereas "long time youtube people" like @alanrtment porter has been informing the rest of us since as long ago as 2011 ;-) I myself am a stark newcomer and I admit it.
@andyhastings59503 жыл бұрын
Maybe 3500 to 4000 years ago the weren't as tight as now. Earth moves all the time. Just look at the rock falls.
@judeirwin22222 жыл бұрын
Too treacherous, not “to”.
@junestanich78882 жыл бұрын
Amazing Phil, he’s got a sixth sense about where to find stuff.
@jomakwee6 жыл бұрын
Actually thought that Stewart's GPS hat was a joke... Turns out it was real. Haha
@kristianstipe4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Especially with the dildo looking thing on the top of it :D
@t.j.payeur7397 жыл бұрын
Hoy God..I'm a Mohawk halfbreed, I'll climb a tower 250 feet in the air but you couldn't drag me in to that cave, you'd have to kill me first..even if Alice is in there..no way...
@maxb40745 жыл бұрын
I don't know.... maybe with Dr. Alice Roberts
@ArmchairDeity7 ай бұрын
LMAO @ “even if Alice is in there” 😂😅 I’m so with you, brother! I’m white as the driven snow, American - but every bit as descended from English, Irish, Welsh and Scandinavian as anyone in the episode… and you couldn’t drag me in to that cave alive OR dead. I swear my ghost would collapse the cave first. 😖😅😂
@ArmchairDeity7 ай бұрын
Actually I have to admit that watching the cavers transit the entrance and tunnels occasionally causes me to catch my breath and look away from the screen… I am DEFINITELY NOT a submariner or an astronaut! 😂😅
@janielaurel2 жыл бұрын
As I look at the overhead shots at the close of this episode I can't help but wonder what ARE those "holes" or "pits" around the cave. Fascinating episode that still leaves a lot of questions unanswered :D
@spacelemur7955 Жыл бұрын
They have the appearance of small sink holes. That whole ridge looks like pitted, dissolving limestone. Don't forget that above the present surface use to be a lot more rock, so the pits could be the bottom of caves long gone. The various strata would have different characteristics, such that there could be little continuation of karst formation spanning them vertically. All this is highly speculative, and I wish they would have had a geologist on site.
@BoredCertified7 жыл бұрын
Oh no, no, no, no! The cave is terrifying! My claustrophobia would kick right off!
@lindasue87195 жыл бұрын
BoredCertified I had to fast forward through parts of it! I couldn't believe that one guy tossing stones around, and then brought a bunch more down! In that split-second between he did it and it happened I was asking myself "what the hell is he doing!?" Then they worm their way to the third cave. No, thanks!!
@AFatalPapercut4 жыл бұрын
especially that part where one person pulls another feet first through a hole....nope nope nope
@lucygray61624 жыл бұрын
That was too many people in one little bitty place, not to mention the camera and sound man. No way. Too many to get out in an emergency.
@tommyfred61805 жыл бұрын
the cavers a laughing about the rock falls. but what they are doing down there is extremely dangerous. I suspect they are trying to keep the atmosphere of the dig light to try to stop the time team people getting to scared.
@wieldwords5 жыл бұрын
One of the most fascinating - if slightly heartstopping - episodes of the series imo. I also love that Dr Alice has a favo(u)rite bone. She’s a gem.
@paulbriody2974 жыл бұрын
I can't stand being confined, they are much braver than I could ever be in such circumstances. Fascinating.
@hughgordon95275 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think the kids were going back to the womb? How about the Roman lady being the native wife of a roman officer dying in child birth and the officer respecting her dying wishes for the baby??
@tessat33811 жыл бұрын
A lot of babies didn't survive birth. Infant mortality was high until the 19th century.
@asburycollins91823 жыл бұрын
Actually it was much higher in the 19th century than on earlier periods. Also it seems people in the country side had a sigiifficantly lower infant mortality rate.
@AnnBearForFreedom5 жыл бұрын
"Andy has gone flaccid." What? I'm sorry, what??? Oh. Never mind."
@kimepp22164 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be interesting to compare the dna of all the remains to see their relationships.
@graceamerican35582 жыл бұрын
It was giving me the heebee geebees just watching them crawling around in there. The thought of being stuck … 🥺. Those poor babies.
@semisophisticate638 жыл бұрын
I bet a hot shower felt good at the end of the day for those cavers. Brave!
@estherwhittle58608 жыл бұрын
Love Time Team.
@andrewschmidt53127 жыл бұрын
V. V.
@MsRain494 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting episodes I've seen. There is just so much to it.
@johngadsby15264 жыл бұрын
Our ancestors had more feeling for their relatives that we do today!!
@VictorRochaGaming4 жыл бұрын
Love Dr. Pearson. Next to Phil, he has my favorite English accent.
@MaryAnnDaniell4 жыл бұрын
Agree! He is so calm and precise. Easy on the ears.
@kevinmcneill4682 жыл бұрын
I think he played or plays rugby!
@harperoconnor52855 жыл бұрын
Because of course if you find a skull, you name the place Yorick... ROFL!
@andyhastings59503 жыл бұрын
Explain Flacid without mentioning the little Blue pill will cure it 😱😱
@lizzy66125 Жыл бұрын
fascinating site!I have read the report on this site,well worth a read.
@meganw.44575 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a cave burial be a rather strange thing for a Roman? Unless maybe she was Romano-celtic and wanted to go the way of her ancestors.
@littledikkins23 жыл бұрын
or for some reason the local British buried her.
@mch123119694 жыл бұрын
"Katie bring me back a bone" out of context that sounds sinister
@sharimullinax32062 жыл бұрын
Mike Parker-Pierson would sound good reading the phone book!
@slhughes12674 жыл бұрын
The neo-natals might possibly be stillborns or deaths just after being born that were given to the Fae in that underground cave--a Between place, making it perfect for giving the infants to the Fae so that the infants may live forever.
@victoriaeads61263 жыл бұрын
I thought about that possibility, too. There is too large a concentration of neonate remains unless you've got either stillborn/neonatal deaths dedicated to the fae/spirits/gods...or the horrible possibility of child sacrifice to the same. I suppose it's possible that many other sites simply aren't the right conditions far preserving such delicate remains, but this still seems like an intense concentration.
@stannousflouride83728 жыл бұрын
The mouth if the cave us here on Google Earth: 53.079787ºN, 1.640982ºW And the barrow is here: 53.082648ºN, 1.641187ºW
@cojones85185 жыл бұрын
Neolithic time out room. They didn't play around back then. The others are a Roman archeology team that got caught in a cave in.
@lindasue87195 жыл бұрын
Always a treat to see Andy!
@jcortese3300Ай бұрын
Wow, a dangerous, crazy spelunking episode and Carenza's not down there! Every time they seem to plumb the depths of some scary cave, it's always her who ends up in the cave.
@cojones85184 жыл бұрын
8:00 Holds up bone needle. Twenty seconds later, holds up deer antler with cuts in the exact same size and shape as the needle. "We have no idea what it was used for."
@Dal606BBN3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the man with the missing legs was put down the cave alive so he couldn't walk back out or maybe so he couldn't walk into the afterlife. We'll never know but I do Love The Time Team!!
@ian_b4 жыл бұрын
I would totally help Katie and Alice find a bone in Flasid. I know. I'll get me coat.
@mamavswild4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Libbathegreat4 жыл бұрын
Came down looking for this comment, was not disappointed.
@ian_b4 жыл бұрын
@@Libbathegreat Glad to be of service!
@bertrandlechat43307 жыл бұрын
Perhaps those who lived here were a bit too closely related, and newborns often didn't survive.
@meemurthelemur48114 жыл бұрын
Infants often didn't survive anyways, why would you assume incest?
@lucygray61624 жыл бұрын
@@meemurthelemur4811 As in all small communities over a period of time, intermarrying happened until genetic mistakes happened. Still goes on today. There was simply no one else to mate with.
@DragonFae163 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the infant skeletons belong to infants that were either stillbirths or infants that died in infancy. And they were placed in the cave as a way to unite them with the ancestors, or something akin to that.
@yank177611 жыл бұрын
No Way would I go down there. Those folks are nuts.
@hughgordon64354 жыл бұрын
Any one get all teatime at the thought of a roman soldier taking a local girl as wife and promising her a traditional burial, and fulfilling that promise?
@johanneswerner11402 ай бұрын
The noses give me an extreme Monty Python vibe."Oi, bignose"
@suwaidajalal4 жыл бұрын
I have to say that the illustrations are smashing. They talk about stuff that most of the times is difficult to picture and then their artist sketches it and the period comes to vivid life. It's something that the later 3D art somehow just doesn't seem to capture. I'm sure, though, if they revived the show now, we would get better electronically created art, more access, and the addition of DNA mapping and phenotyping.
@kevingouldrup92654 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw Dr.Mike Parker Pearson @ 11:22 I thought I was looking at a young Peter Ustinov! lol
@2gulfalco11 ай бұрын
My heart lurched when I thought dear Alice and Katie might get hurt 😮 such a strange feeling to get when watching this show....
@davidshelow53344 жыл бұрын
Day Two, the team is lost on the Barrow Downs, like Tolkien's hobbits.
@saveusmilkboy2 жыл бұрын
17:01 "Including the clavicle, which is my favourite..." Alice, do you have a favourite bone?! Is this a common thing for archaeologists and anthropologists to have? And why the clavicle, of all bones? I am not judging, I am just wondering...
@christianpatriot74396 жыл бұрын
If this cave is so dangerous to be in now, how different did it have to be thousands of years ago for people with much more primitive technology to get safely into in order to bury anyone? And what's the probability that the cave remained in local human memory well enough to be in use from the Stone Age to Roman times?
@Whatareyouareyou4 жыл бұрын
Was more than likely not filled with crud and was generally more stable
@a.westenholz40324 жыл бұрын
I did wonder if people had brought stones into the cave as part of burying them there. It is easier to lower baskets or stones into a cave, gradually piling them up with each subsequent burial, than dragging them out from what has become an unstable pile stones and rubble. No doubt that some of the rubble was naturally formed within the cave itself by water, which probably gave people the idea. It wouldn't take a all that many stones to cover each burial, but it would add up over thousands of years.
@Libbathegreat4 жыл бұрын
ANDY! Never forget him as the paleolithic horse in season 6 (the one with Lord Bath)!
@miarosagreen86725 жыл бұрын
proof here that gnomes and tolkien dwarves existed! he didn't make it all up you know ;-)
@alanatolstad48245 жыл бұрын
Day 2 Fog! We call that June Gloom where I live in Central Coast California (which follows our May Gray!)
@JETWTF5 жыл бұрын
Join us in central valley and get to love the hot dry air where your sweat dries too fast to cool you off by June and August is just miserable like July. Otherwise hello neighbor! So care to head to Redwoods or Tahoe in June or July for a weekend vacation?
@CanChikMay2 жыл бұрын
Interest8ng!
@paulbriody2974 жыл бұрын
'Gloopier and gloopier, said Alice!'
@jppcasey Жыл бұрын
Katie is absolutely cute as heck.
@annk.87503 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the high number of infant bones indicates a high mortality rate due to inbreeding of a small population. The evidence of the noses and the evidence of the "barrow for this valley, cave for the other valley" suggests that there might not have been much gene mixing with other groups.
@LordPubeck3 ай бұрын
Never mind the lovely Dr Alice - Victor's sketches at 41:18 are beautiful!!
@allenhonaker41074 жыл бұрын
Imagine it's the year 3500 and these guys descendents are holding your skull up to the camera. Perhaps you should rethink the expensive funeral and burial. Donate your bodies and remember that memorials are only temporary.
@davekinghorn9567 Жыл бұрын
Alice Roberts(caver) has her own Archaeology TV shows now.
@Pauldjreadman4 жыл бұрын
Them caves, holy Jesus. They need a stiff drink after that.
@davidlowe52046 жыл бұрын
Skeletons not water-sorted, gnawed or butchered, so laid there by man. The pasture is riddled with lead workings back to Roman times. Any sign T'Owd Man came across them in his fossicking?
@Pikkugen2 жыл бұрын
Those people with huge noses remind me of the depictions of Scandinavian Trolls. Now we know where they went... or where they came from.
@judeirwin22222 жыл бұрын
Did anyone speculate on whether the man with the severed limb might have had this treatment to prevent him from “coming back” from the afterlife? This kind of practice - either breaking legs or turning the head 180 degrees on the neck so a wandering spirit could not find its way home, was known in Britain and other countries into the 17th century. Maybe that chap was considered a bad egg. But if so, why was he honoured by being placed in a sacred cave?
@peanut719683 жыл бұрын
Well folks, if you ever discover I’m missing, worry not for I won’t be found in a cave!
@bilgeratjim11 жыл бұрын
I watched this episode to see Dr. Alice and Katie mud wrestle. No such luck, lol.
@JETWTF3 жыл бұрын
Andy Currant not talking about voles and getting excited about their significance is kinda missed in this episode. Ok there was Dr. Alice Roberts to cheer me up.
@DarrylWilletttoy4rn853 жыл бұрын
Alice and Katie are part of another show called Extreme Archaeology. Go figure.....😊
@keolas6916 Жыл бұрын
I just watched those. The show doesn't do them justice at all. More stupid drama than science.
@tphvictims51014 жыл бұрын
3:23 😆👍🏻 Time Team Gold
@gregb64697 жыл бұрын
So Jimmy Durante's ancestors were buried here?
@andyhastings59503 жыл бұрын
I wonder why all the small excavations? Some even in lines. Are these possibly earlier robber excavators at work?
@johngadsby15264 жыл бұрын
It was clearly a Sacred Place and that continued for thousands of years!!!
@OstblockLatina3 жыл бұрын
The multiple skulls and bones of newborns might be hinting to infanticide in the context of disposing of babies that were unwanted for whatever reason (most frequently the lack of sufficient resources to feed and raise them, i.e. babies born right before or during Winter, or just being too much burden to already large families regardless of the season of the year). Elsewhere people would just bring the babies into the woods and leave them to die, but where there were no woods in the neighborhood, the cave would be a logical alternative. Such practices continued sometime after christianisation of Europe, especially in the country where, according to old traditions, a baby that didn't yet taste earthly food wasn't considered a real human being yet.
@lvlister20057 жыл бұрын
Ohhh Ahhh Alice :P
@MiriamStrawberries2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be natural to find a lot of dead infants in a place, where adults were clearly closely related? That tends to lead to rising infant mortality. Also about the cutmarks on one of the adult bones; I bet the bodies were not carried there as whole, you saw how hard it was to move there. So they probably cut the body in bits or took the flesh away, and just transported the bones.
@gazzaboo84614 жыл бұрын
Finally, we've found the ancestral line of Barry Manilow's nose.
@BladeRunner215774 жыл бұрын
Yeah! What happens in Derbyshire stays in Derbyshire.
@maxb40745 жыл бұрын
Flaccid and gloopy
@carlymoore19352 жыл бұрын
This was my second sample match from the bronze age ,on my true ancestry'.
@svennielsen633Ай бұрын
These people are crazy!
@CreatingwithWinglessAngel5 жыл бұрын
I just once want to meet the time team. To bad they ended the show.
@Terri510111 жыл бұрын
I reckon they were way too closely related and the babies were either killed for being born deformed, or stillborn
@Wally-H6 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if they simply had too many children. No birth control in those days, after all, so maybe they made offerings to their Gods in order to get rid of some of them
@meemurthelemur48114 жыл бұрын
@@Wally-H a much more likely scenario than incest, especially since there's no mention of deformities (which, btw, is a highly exaggerated fantasy of sick pricks and scifi fans). It would not have been unheard of, if the tribe was short on resources or were experiencing bad weather or warfare for them to have either killed or left the infants to die in order to reduce the strain on their resources.
@johnanthonyfingleton29544 жыл бұрын
Could it be possible that the cave was so small that children were 'forced' to bring adult bones into it and were then left there as a sacrifice?
@tessjuel3 жыл бұрын
No. There have been many studies on infant and child mortality rates of various cultures throughout history and the estimates the researchers have managed to come up with are remarkably consistent from the neolithic period all the way up to the 15th century and all across the globe: About a quarter of people who were born died in their first year and about half died before they reached puberty. The only thing unusual about this particular ancient burial site is that the tender bones from the small children lasted so long.
@lindasue87195 жыл бұрын
🎶"It's a caver's life for me!" 🎶 NOT! 😄
@spacelemur7955 Жыл бұрын
There has been ongoing research in the two decades since Time Team visted the site. KZbin will not let me post a link (😠), but if you use your favourite magic site finder, the following will take you to a very nice summary dated 2021 by Dr Tom Booth. The new info far exceeds what Time Team could produce 20 years ago. Carsington Pasture Cave A National Site of Significant Archaeological Importance
@lizzy66125 Жыл бұрын
I have just read the article...,tried to share the link but it wont let me .
@Chubachus8 жыл бұрын
"Does my bum look big in this?"
@twothreebravo8 жыл бұрын
Ooo Aaahh
@WashuHakubi47 жыл бұрын
Who else but Time Team could bring us a spelunking tease?
@LarryThePhotoGuy4 жыл бұрын
The expert looks a lot like Peter Ustinov.
@davidmitchell95754 жыл бұрын
Alas poor Yorick, I knew him well...
@wewenang5167 Жыл бұрын
WOW THIS EPISODE IS THE MOST AMAZING AND EERIE FOR ME! THAT BURIAL CAVE MUST BE A BURIAL FOR THE SAME COMMUNITY AND FAMILY FOR 4000 YEARS. THE FAMILY OF BIG NOSES LMAO...PERHAPS WITH DNA TECHNOLOGY NOW WE CAN FIND IF THEY GOT ANY RELATIVE THAT STILL ALIVE TODAY. OR...JUST LOOK FOR A BIG NOSE FOLKS IN DERBY XD.
@steveharris495810 жыл бұрын
Derafunk...How would you know? Related?
@KYIRISH19 жыл бұрын
He's talking about me here in Kentucky and my English/ Irish ancestors I suppose. No big deal, everybody has to be somewhere. On the subject...This cave looks way too unstable to me. I'm used to exploring Mammoth Cave with its vast caverns and 400 miles of passageways. Zillions of bats clinging to the walls also but they are in some kind of hibernation.
@bluewolf9934 жыл бұрын
37:55 Dairy cows randomly grazing in the background.
@Fox1nDen3 жыл бұрын
the barrow burials imply the bereft had time to bury carefully. the cave burials imply times of violence, as when invaders kill the small children to enslave th adult women. the severed knees imply death in combat or punishment for a crime one would use on a rebellious slave. The cave suggests an invasion to me in ancient times. The barrow skulls were from peaceful times after that, or before that based on the carbon dating. Starving people groups chose whether or not to keep their newborns based on food availability. People buried in the cave were under duress.
@sergehalytsky4 жыл бұрын
So Peter Bruegel the Elder and Hieronimus Bosch were painting not caricatures, but natural big nosed people???
@joshuahjfarquharm.32694 жыл бұрын
It really makes you wonder how much of our history we don't know. I mean they really look bizarre like a different subspecies. They should really try to do some genetic testing on those bones.