Hockey Canada needs a MAJOR shake up

[@tenuousfuzzball7594]

Misa, Cristall, Parekh, Yakemchuk, Hage, Greentree, just to name a few of the players left off the roster. This age group for Canada is far and away the best out of any of the top nations, we should not be losing to Latvia, or Czechia, it's completely unacceptable. Choosing to leave off some of the most offensively talented junior players in the world in favor of two-way players who can't drive play or score is either complete incompetence or spite from Hockey Canada. Pair the snubs with potentially the worst coach in the OHL, who didn't seem to want to do his job and you got the first back to back quarterfinal exit in more than 50 years. This is not a case of other countries catching up, this is a case of terrible roster selection, bad coaching and useless management at the top of Hockey Canada. This isn't hard, you choose the best 25 players available and a good coach and they figure it out.

[@JoelER78]

EXACTLY!

[@altavelmcnamara]

Well, you lost 3 out of 4 last games to Czechia.

[@newfy709]

Canada needs to pick there best players.

[@brendaporter457]

Great podcast and I am a proud Canadian who is behind our players 100% but disagree with the comment about the U.S.A. not producing as many elite players.

[@mikpopiel473]

I'll post here what I posted on TSN KZbin today. This too often expressed notion of "the rest of the world is catching up to us", expressed by on screen, voice or print pundit, is nothing but extended denialism. The message reply I got today from a very proud but deluded Canadian Hockey fan was that "The CHL has been, is now and will forever be the best training ground for young hockey players in the world!". It's time to admit that the mainstays in the WJC have caught up to us. The evidence is there. This year was abundantly clear evidence. Last year was clear evidence. The last decade has been building this evidence. Our development system is broken, all the way down to local Minor Hockey affiliated with Hockey Canada. The USA with their NCAA (and USA Hockey) system has far surpassed development (both athletically and educationally, and absolutely monetarily) of the CHL (with the OHL marketing itself as the "Best development league in the world"- because they said so). The Finns and Swedes are on Par, and arguably better. The Czech's. are arguably knocking on that door as well. This is not just Anecdote. The empirical evidence is there at minimum the last two WJC. The numerical evidence is there as well. In This years rosters all but four of USA are NCAA, with the four being OHL. Sweden, all homegrown there but 1 in the WHL. Finland, only 6 in the CHL, remainder nationally or USA developed (including AHL). Czechia offers a good argument against my point with 12 being from CHL- however the bulk of those being outside the OHL (only 3 are OHL- remember they beat us twice now). For further Argument is Latvia, only 4 in CHL, with 2 in the OHL and 2 in the LQ- and yes, that is Feldbergs. they beat Canada. Germany. 3 in the CHL, and though we "beat them", that should have been a decisive victory from the 1st period. It wasn't. Team Canada roster- 24 CHL, of which 14 were OHL. And they lost. Closest argument for Czechia having success because of CHL, could only be that they had more CHL rostered players OUTSIDE of the OHL. Sweden and Finland are powerhouses of hockey. They are largely producing and developing their own talent nationally or in Europe, and clearly see no need to export them to the NA programs. Same with the USA, and Czechia is quickly following suit. Latvia and Germany will in time get more NCAA births, and have less interest in anything in Canada- we proved to them and anyone watching to avoid us the last two years. CHL as a whole, produced less than 40% of draft picks (88) in 2024. These are their own numbers. First round pics were 14 (5 of which WHL)of 32, with the top two pics being NCAA and the third CHL, and 9 from the US System. This number has been declining steadily over the last 20 years. The evidence is staring us in the face. Bottom line, Hockey Canada, and Hockey in Canada, is simply not attractive any longer to developing hockey players that are serious about representing their nation or going high level. I don't take pleasure in coming to these conclusions, but avoiding the reality will only prolong the suffering. Change, massively, with a full moral inventory of the failings that have led to this point, is needed.

[@bearforce187]

Seems like the rest of things in Canada, the roster is picked due to politics. Leaving off stars like Misa, Parekh, Yakemchuck and others for some grinders/muckers is insane. Dave Cameron and the rest of the staff should not be allowed near any national teams again.

[@AndreC-f9o]

Lets see.. What is better? Budget? X freedoms? X jobs? X free speech? X safety? X housing? X our dollar? X Health X Schools X ..... So they create hockey can and you got it .....X

[@michaelwhiter4308]

Disagree with the talent chosen. Leaving 9 top 20 picks off the team is asinine!

[@AndreC-f9o]

What does the gov do right? We should expect decline

[@scotthowell7676]

The blame starts at the very top. Even the Canadian Minister of Sport has had an impact on this year's team. The introduction of a DEI hiring policy and non-hockey psychoanalists (after the sex scandal) has introduced an horrific non-hockey, un-Canadian approach that will stick for a decade.

[@AndreC-f9o]

Honestly how do you rate gov? Don't worry .. The budget and hockey will balance itself🤣

[@marcelleclair4452]

You can't say Canada runs the show at this age, they just lost in the quarter finals. Somethings seems different about the team selection process in the past few years. Especially this year. It all starts with who they pick as a coach. I still think the concept of using an active major junior coach is a good idea. But they have to pick one that does it truly for the right reasons...impartially picking the best Team Canada, not promoting his club team players or other political decisions. They also need a coach that is both much younger than Cameron and with a far better track record. It has to be a winning coach...memorial cup, Stanley Cup as a former player, if not memorial cup then at least league championships. A track record not just a one hit wonder. Let the hockey guys decide, but I would much prefer to see 4 attacking lines with offensive fire power than a bunch of grinders. Why... Well in a short tournament, if we fall behind we need to score. If we have the good players... they have to puck, don't need to play defense as much. Plus who says top players cannot back check? Pick ones that will back check. But you can't teach a back checker to score. Also top players will not take so many penalties because they have the puck and the other guys are chasing them. Sooo frustrating. For the four Nations cup they have Jon Cooper from Tampa Bay coaching the team. Been to the finals, won some cups (recently), knows how to coach a group of stars. They will also have Bruce Cassidy as an assistant... another cup winner. That makes sense to me. They are not going to pick the coaches from Buffalo, Montreal or Ottawa to coach Team Canada. So why is Cameron there for the Juniors?

[@farout1107]

Hockey Canada needs a change of everything, plus hockey Canada needs to start learning from mistakes

[@AndreC-f9o]

Our gov? Learn? 🤣🤣 maybe, wonder why its not a success like our country. Wait a minute😳🤣

[@LoPro]

[Free Bird solo intensifies]

[@AndreC-f9o]

😂 what a silly thing to do. 10 -0 game I was glad to miss. Songs great.. But the s as me clip ffs

[@hebber1961]

Hockey enrolment is down 35% since 2010. Ya think maybe that has it's effect too?

[@chrishalter6106]

One problem with the entire global hockey, is Canada is actually the one training most of these guys. If you had to be playing in your home country, it may change the look of the teams.

[@JoelER78]

The US junior teams play against USHL teams and NCAA teams (both levels, I and III). The Canada junior team could play against all CHL teams...but that may not work...too easy? Too much superstar talent on one team? Not sure. Imagine if Celebrini and Bedard were able to go to the tournament this year! I think we would have done a little better?

[@brianlb78]

U.S. has definitely closed the gap with Canada. Just look at the NHL players. Canada use to have over 50% nhlers now it's down to 40 and the U.S. is at 30 or something. You can say no Bedard, no Celebrini, etc etc, and the U.S. had a player or two they could of brought, obviously not in the Bedard/Celebrini skill but much better than what they have so I think that is a weak argument. As said that team has multiple 1st round picks. In the end it's just bad management and other countries catching up. It was just a matter of time for it to happen.

[@hebber1961]

Hockey enrolment is down 35% in Canada since 2010. That's had its effects.

[@AndreC-f9o]

Not fair with the state created hc.. It slides down like everything.

[@jasongottfred6225]

Selection process was brutal, where was parekh? Stud dman. Our defence looked really bad look at Gibson and Dickinson and others they looked so bad. Where was 6’4 miles wood? Team looked small. Or misa? For goals… coaching is bad , no development team…

[@AndreC-f9o]

Gov loses always

[@matthewshepley8298]

The coaching staff failed this group of kids from start to finish. Dave Cameron is far too passive for a condensed tournament like this. His Ottawa 67s are below .500 and sit 2nd last in the Eastern Division. Then look at the London Knight's in the last calendar year amounted a stellar 75-12-12 record. Hockey Canada Management from the top down failed to even invite some serious players, a HC with zero passion, and the personality of a old jockstrap found in the lost and found box 📦

[@DSilverwood]

The CEO of Hockey Canada comes from curling, so…😊

[@AndreC-f9o]

And hc is gov ... So.... Yup

[@scotthowell7676]

Think about the word "PROGRAM". Most other countries have development programs and these programs are such that the players (way more than we'll ever see) all subscibe to that program. We're not building robots, but everyone is on the same emotional and intellectual page. Canada has no "program".

[@AndreC-f9o]

No we did better before giv got involved. They aren't exactly improving anything.

[@rca-arc8527]

Coaching was very poor (no practices plus goal challenge against the Czechs) but the biggest issue for me was that they basically excluded players from the NCAA (only one selected). That means players like Michael Hage and Dean Letourneau were ignored. The NCAA is a better league and teams are better funded than OHL teams.

[@AndreC-f9o]

Our gov gets involved and it declined? Im shocked......🥴

[@13e11even11]

Canada runs the show at the world juniors🤔have you been watching many games last several years

[@deancharlwood1817]

We have to bring in the best players not the coaches favorites!

[@chrisophernevitt3603]

Leaders need to take ownership look in the mirror people

[@JordanStreib]

Not just at wjc where they could have taken Iginla if healthy,Misa,Barlow,Parekh,Cristall,Yakemchuk,Lindstrom,Sennecke. - but at 4 nations no Scheifele,Suzuki,Barzal,Horvat,Doughty ect. - and a problem is political as well kids being weaker growing up in woke society/not as many tough good old farm boys/toughness from fighting brother/friends/parents. Hockey used to be cheaper not 10k+ only rich kids can play AAA. They develop lazy habits play when want to. Or care about themselves more than winning a StanleyCup. You see guys asking for trades/only want hot low tax states instead of putting head down work in and showing value on own team.

[@philhugill8458]

CANADA SOON NOT INVITED.

[@mikepagliaro2123]

Awww...you guys were sooooo close too. In fact, you even said it; "Development Program" fellas. "Hockey Canada" is a marketing scheme, verse actual hockey programs. You guys are "hunting in your underwear" 😅

[@AndreC-f9o]

The gov started hockey can..... *Note the decline. Absolutely nothing done by them gets better(or even just hang on....) they really need to butt out or its going to even guess worse

[@mircomirco-zm6ji]

Problem is not players but couching stuff media commentators and so Cal experts TSN panels

[@deancharlwood1817]

Woke leadership at hockey canada

[@AndreC-f9o]

Gov created so it prospers same as everything else..🙄

[@timw4369]

Oh my God they had two bad years it's a calamity. Give it a rest Yeah we had some bad years get a life. You guys know nothing. Were you pro coaches GMS scouts or none of the above. Yeah that's what I thought.

[@13e11even11]

No excuse to not dominate🤔you are clearly below the Americans and the Swedes and you might be on par or level with Czechia and Finland…..did you watch the games