HOHENHEIMS UNO REVERSE! | FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood Reaction |Ep 61 "He Who Would Swallow God"

[@gerardlacroix6015]

Wrath line about his wife is great. As he said, he always followed the path laid before him, he never got to choose. Not his name, nor his path, nor his role, etc... But his wife, he got to choose. It is, in fact, the only choice he probably ever made. So there is no need for words, as the choice itself represent all the freedom he had in the world, and all the weight it holds that he chose her. It's kinda romantic, really.

[@AStrangeWindmill]

How much she meant to him makes more sense if you remember that he _is_ Father's wrath. It's the thing he felt the least, but it specifically was his rage it being trapped in that damn flask doing whatever humans told him to do. It's also why he hates religion and proclaimed "good" rulers so much; he values choice, _hates_ not having it, and disdains anything that purports to provide some benefit in exchange for less (perceived) choice. So for him it's "Choice is the most important thing a person can have, and I spent my _one_ on her. What could I _possibly_ say that could mean as much?". Whether or not she really knows him well enough to understand that is another matter, but from his perspective it tracks.

[@osito1329]

@@AStrangeWindmill This was beautifully written.

[@lstan303]

I think one of the main things that connects Bradley and the dwarf in the flasks wraith is the fact that they are hidden. The dwarf despised the flask but rarely showed it and was freed by promising immortality to the ruler of Xerxes. I think that theme of being hidden presents itself in many ways in Bradley but also In ways that means that he is very controlled. The only thing he ever got to choose was his wife so I think when he was dying him saying that is a way of going there is nothing that needs to be said. No matter what happens what is revealed about him she will always know that that was real.

[@xorngoh7303]

@@AStrangeWindmill Holy crap bro. I've never really thought about it that way, even though I've already watched this series a gazillion times. And you make a whole lot of sense. It is also ironic that Bradley was created and put into the same situation that Father was in all those years back in Xerxes. And that is a life without a choice. I knew Bradley was always perpetually feeling angry due to him being Wrath, but couldn't exactly tie him in with Father as the other Homonculus did. Now after seeing your explanation, it all made sense. All the Sin Homonculus represented an aspect of Father during his time in the Flask. Lust: It represents his manipulative and deceiving side and the pleasure he drew when he deceived and manipulated the people of Xerxes. Gluttony: It represents the base desires of hunger and probably the curiosity to try new foods to satisfy said desire, as he was trapped in a flask and could never eat. Envy: It represents how envious Father was towards humans for having support and help from people around them. Even though he viewed himself superior and mocked human's need for a community as inconvenience, he was low key envious of the community that humans entail. Greed: It represents Father's loneliness. His desire to have friends and family like humans that support and help them. Even though he viewed himself superior and mocked human's need for a community as inconvenience, he was low key wishing for a family and friend. To not be alone in this world. Sloth: It represents Father's laziness and unwillingness to do anything for the Xerxes people. Pride: It represents Father's identity as the Dwarf in the Flask. He was proud to be an all-knowing entity. Proud to be Homonculus and distinctly different from humans. Pride's shadow form walking around in a container is exactly how he was like. Wrath: As you have said, it represents Father's situation of being trapped in the flask and having no choice but to do the bidding of others. It is such a shame. Because if you look at all the Homonculus put together and Father as a character in whole, he was actually an extremely well-written and fascinating character. If he could only be humble and reached out to Hohenheim for help and be honest with himself, he might have walked a completely different path than what he did. Not that I can't understand his decision to betray the Xerxes people. He was trapped in the Flask for decades (Hohenheim from a teenage youth to a middle age man in the flashbacks), being milked for the knowledge he possesses, while having no freedom or any choice for the matter, while feeling all alone in the world like Frankenstein's monster. His situation is very much like a slave when you think about it, because he does not get rewarded for the knowledge he shared either. When the Xerxes king asked about immortality, the Dwarf probably felt that enough was enough and knew it was his once in a lifetime chance to change things for himself and he took it. I mean I can sort of empathise with him. Anything to escape from that decades worth of imprisonment, loneliness and lack of being appreciated. I might even do the same thing as him if I was put into the same situation. And being able to take revenge on the Xerxes people was just icing on the cake.

[@christopherneff6104]

@@xorngoh7303 But then why didn't he just stop there and simply enjoy his life? Why did he need to additionally take over Amestris and create an even bigger circle to absorb God next?

[@YouAnd_OnlyYou]

Let's recap. It took: having his train being blown up over a ravine, almost a platoons worth of Briggs soldiers, a tank, a man with a chainsaw hand, a ninja, a fellow homunculus (one with the powers of a ninja and the ultimate shield) a stab to the gut, having his ultimate eye gouged out, shot in the shoulder by an M1 Garand, dropped at least 80 or so feet into a moat, losing a prolific amount of blood, a long battle with Scar and the literally intervention of GOD to take Bradley down. And he still almost won.

[@valentinafangirling]

To be fair the intervention of god is an analysis. Not necessarily what happened. It was the sun, who they considered as God, but not necessarily that intervening. Was it a coincidence? Or was it actually God? Up to interpretation and at the end of the day, choosing to believe it was God, is an example of faith. Which Scar obviously has.

[@michaelkenner3289]

That's his secret. He's always angry.

[@BBTRaziel]

Not to mention that he is already old. He is not even in his prime

[@nyarlathotep616]

The author said in a interview that if he was in his prime no would could have beat him.

[@TriXJester]

I just gotta point out that Bradley's last words was the most eloquent way of saying "Worth it." I've ever heard

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Good point

[@sohinibhattacharya5375]

Ed becoming a philosopher's stone is not anything new, he also turned himself into a philosopher's stone when he healed his injury at the mine in the Briggs mountain.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Is that what it is?

[@sohinibhattacharya5375]

@@HaydrogenBomb yeah

[@supattreewatanawong5025]

@@HaydrogenBomb he use his lifeforce as philosopher stone that have one soul to power his alcamy but it take his lifespan

[@brandonwithnell612]

yeah once he found out philosopher stones are in essence human souls and that his father is technically a massive humanoid philosopher stone he realized that he could use his own body as a psudo stone powered by 1 soul being his own

[@supattreewatanawong5025]

@@leobitencourt4719 I mean when he healed his injury at the mine in the Briggs mountain from @sohinibhattacharya5375 said up there

[@Marta-uv4id]

Wrath finally coming to terms with his life and dying peacefully when he's defeated by the man that left his own anger behind is his ironic death.

[@crystalzonder]

fightd with anger and ironically dies calmly

[@noremac7216]

Yeah disappointing they seemed to miss it

[@DuckSmokezQuack]

Also that he was "blinded by anger" when the light shines off the sword whilst he angrily monogolues

[@ninjaboy4831]

And his established disbelief in God coming full circle with him losing to what could basically be chalked up to devine intervention

[@angelb33ts]

I never realized it until recently, Wrath says during the war along the lines of how many people do I have to kill for your God to strike me down? Which makes his death even more poetic

[@Raven_Black_252]

Omg I forgot about that, amazing

[@DXDragon38]

Yup, it took all these years and episodes, but a son of Ishvala finally struck down Wrath with a little help from God

[@angelb33ts]

@@Raven_Black_252 ikr!!

[@angelb33ts]

@@DXDragon38 yep one last time and he went down

[@t.c.thompson2359]

If there is one thing Kimblee has no tolerance for, it is hypocrisy, he genuinely admired people like Ed and the Rockbells that stuck to their values, even if he couldn’t empathize with them on said ideals, it’s an honestly very admirable trait that needs greater presence in todays world and the future.

[@t.c.thompson2359]

Still a lunatic serial bomber that escaped a lot of justice, Scar still deserved that win more than Heinkel (although Chimera badass moments are always welcome too)

[@sentpain8354]

@@t.c.thompson2359 I think that would kinda ruin scar's character development a little. For most of the show, scar was on a hunt for vengeance. And even at the end, he still never got his vengeance. Not against the man who killed his brother, nor against the man who ordered the extinction of his people. He didnt really kill bradley, as bradley said himself, they spent so much time listening to him talk about his wife that they lost the chance of vengeance. So scar never fulfilled his promise of vengeance and I personally think that is a beautiful thing.

[@Apophis.004]

@@sentpain8354 same thing in Vinland Saga. Taking revenge won't make you feel better or bring back the dead. It'll just make you lose everything that you have left

[@abilawaandamari8366]

For real, he's an absolute sadistic sociopath that values integrity over anything else. it's crazy that he ended up breaking pride just for this, also the fact that he can maintain such a disturbing and menacing presence eventough hes just a human.

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

Also he didnt like veing undermined as human

[@Marta-uv4id]

Ed and Al holding Hohenheim up when Father is attacking them hits so hard every time.

[@LettsReact]

Had me EMOTIONAL

[@DaDunge]

Also note its the first time Ed has called him father other than to say he was a lousy father.

[@qrowing]

I love the *massive,* dopey looking smile they give Hohenheim to show his renewed morale.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Hohenheim's undoing of Father's plan is the BIGGEST clutch moment in the show, maybe in all of anime.

[@LettsReact]

Truly if ANYTHING else had happened they stood NO chance haha

[@WeatherRein]

Hohenheim hard carrying the Raid Party

[@thephantompenance]

Of course Pride’s a baby in his real form. Overconfidence is often the mask of a lack of confidence. Like what Iroh says in Avatar: “Shame is not the opposite of pride, but often its source.”

[@cosesu8929]

Also Mrs. Bradley raising Selim to be a better person, is symbolic of how sometimes pride is a learned trait. Father "raised" Salem to be prideful both literally and figuratively. At least that's how I interpreted it.

[@AStrangeWindmill]

Yeah. It also explains why he was so touched by Mrs Bradly being willing to die for him. He wants someone he _doesn't have to be superior for_ .Like a parent. That's part of why he got so pissed off when Ed pointed out that Father had abandoned him - that hurt him because it's like "hey, you don't get what you want", and he didn't like that Ed could see that.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

​@@cosesu8929*Selim

[@thanquolrattenherz9665]

its funny that you can even reverse irohs quote and its still a true one.

[@JuanSolo9]

_"God you say? Now this is intriguing. How much longer do you think your God plans to wait before unleashing his fury? Just how many thousands of lives must I take before he decides to strike me down? Open your eyes. God is nothing more than a construct created by man to inspire fear and promote order. If you wish to see me struck down for all these atrocities, use your own hands to do so, not God's."_ - *Wrath* In the end it took the intervention of God (light of the eclipse) and the hands of an ishvalan (Scar) to bring down Wrath.

[@giocommentary]

its also poetic that an Ishvalan named Scar, both defeated ''Wrath'' within himself and on the battlefield. The Scar of Ishvala who defeated the ''Wrath'' of Amestris.

[@Socialism90]

I got the impression that God cares more about Amestris than it did about Ishval given the timing >_>

[@bondrewd5935]

@@Socialism90 There isn't any God, It was only a case. The Truth isn't God, Father thinks that because he Didn't understand anything since the start

[@historian252]

Wrong again.

[@ryanakers1372]

An interesting detail about Scar I noticed on rewatch is that after Scar's first encounter with Winry we don't see him kill anyone again, despite having several opportunities to do so, until Bradley.

[@brucechmiel7964]

But not from lack of trying. If not for the Gold Toothed Doctor Kimbly would’ve been a kabob.

[@Mabswer]

@@brucechmiel7964 lol kebob.. flashback to the walking dead.. thanks for that

[@Sunaki1000]

I know, it was allways somewhat of an Indicator for me what he started to change and couldnt be considered a Antagonist anymore. Especially after Marco joined him, he finaly had something to put his Energy into. Before it was blind rage for the sake of it. So much energy and frustration who needed out, but couldnt.

[@xyex]

@@brucechmiel7964 But Kimblee started that fight. It wasn't one that Scar sought out. He probably would have, if he could have, but that's not how it played out. Kimblee came for him.

[@grantharriman284]

Cold opens are a time honored anime tradition. You know it's getting crazy when the show doesn't have time for the opening credits.

[@xIvanRamirezx]

Fairy Tail and Assassination Classroom are two amazing series that you'd love. They're both pretty lengthy too.

[@grantharriman284]

@@xIvanRamirezx I am way ahead of you. Watched all of each. Loved both.

[@Sush8815]

Avengers took it

[@grantharriman284]

@@Sush8815 Doing a cold open has no significance if you haven't already established the OP. I think of One Punch Man. Massively HYPE opening credit sequence with a killer song. Doesn't play on the last episode of the first season. They save that song to pile onto a much greater moment later in the episode. They use the importance and value built up on that song as a tool. Just putting a scene before your credits doesn't come close to matching the impact.

[@ijayespinoza]

@@grantharriman284 agreed but also there’s always an exception. Demon Slayer makes a smart use of a cold open in its pilot episode though I’m not even sure a cold open is what you’d classify it as. It omits both the OP and the title card until the end of the episode in order to retain some unpredictability.

[@Theunholyborn]

To clarify because you might have missed it, Bradley didn't say "That's what it means to be the wife of the fuherer." Because he didn't love her, he did. He had nothing to say because it's already been said and certainly not for someone other than him to say, she's the only part of him he chose. He didn't need to be married, or find someone but, he chose to. No words needed, an unspoken yet..very obvious love to those who get it.

[@Sunaki1000]

Yeah, a bit of a Klichee, but not a bad one. They together for so long, they just know everything they need to know about each others Feelings. I mean she was still scared, but it was a threatening Situation and she will come to terms whit it after a while, cause he wanted her out of the Country after all.

[@TaoOfTheFist]

Another meaning that is lost in the English translation is that Lan Fan will NEVER become Ling Yao's wife, as she is sworn to be his bodyguard. She can love him forever but never be "the wife of the Furher", so to speak. That's why she winced when he responded that way.

[@Sunaki1000]

@@TaoOfTheFist where did you got that? Sounds interesting.

[@TaoOfTheFist]

@@Sunaki1000 it's hard to find the japanese sub of the conversation on KZbin, but if I remember correctly in the Japanese subs Bradley doesn't say the Furher. Rather, the line is translated as , " That's what it means to be the wife of a ruler". Also, remember that Xingese take their vows seriously. Ling explicitly says, "I am a man of Xing, and the people of Xing always keep their word." She couldn't be with him even if they both wanted to because of her vows. It was one last little dig at her.

[@Theunholyborn]

@@Sunaki1000 Does make you wonder about their youth and how they met. Because Bradley was a decent looking guy, he either went out of his way or she approached him.

[@TheMadhatter1313]

I always liked how all of the sins had an ironic death. Wrath died knowing peace

[@angelb33ts]

I wanted to talk about Kimbley for so long! He stuck to his philosophy to the very end and when Pride went against his own philosophy is when he spoke up. Vs His respect for Ed who has stuck to his philosophy

[@lisag5002]

I say this so many times; Wrath is complex. My understanding is: Mrs. Bradley is a military wife. Wrath believes that he is so close to her that he doesn’t need to explain himself. Everything he wanted to convey to his wife has been said and done through the years. Its already been settled. She understands his job and his duty. She accepts the truth that he can die unexpectedly. She might not like it but it could happen. Also Wrath In his own way he was also giving a warning to Lan Fan. "That's what it means to be the wife of the fuhrer." One day she could find herself in the same position as his wife with her relationship with Ling.

[@lefishe5884]

My read on Father’s appearance has always been that he’s an amalgamation of the physical features of all 5 sacrifices. But since 3 of them are Ed, Al, and Howenheim, their golden features dominate his design.

[@RDForager]

There are so many symbolic moments in this show, but I've always enjoyed the first sound of life returning to Amestris being a baby crying.

[@ajsouza3720]

It's truly brilliant

[@ninjaboy4831]

Kimblee is such an amazing character. He keeps the same energy from start to finish, admires everyone else who does (The Rockbells, Ed, and Al), and calls out anyone who doesn't. The true Vibe Check Alchemist

[@Scaring-Crows]

So that body isn't Al. It's just a young Hohenheim since his was the blood he was made with

[@magortom]

Since genetics I can see why that misunderstanding was made, the sons look just like him with long hair

[@angramainyu9220]

Father’s new appearance reminds me more of a younger Hohenhiem than Al

[@HaydrogenBomb]

True, but both Ed and Al look like their dad, so the confusion is fair

[@AvereeChaloupka]

Kimbly's addition to the story and plot are so satisfying. I love Kimbly's philosophical views even if I disagree with his actions/morales. He has unshakable ideals and respects those who have unshakable ideals as well. Pride (and the rest of the homunuli's) hypocrisy must be so infuriating to Kimbly.

[@mbpoblet]

Yeah, monstrous as he was, he respected those who stuck by their principles, even if he didn't agree with them... and absolutely despised those that did not.

[@Polymathically]

8:18 And _now_ we're in the endgame. I've always loved how they use the theme at this moment; after holding your breath at all those cliffhangers and a seemingly villainous victory, you're finally able to exhale. I also love Kimblee's final appearance; he's one of the smartest characters, but I don't think anyone expected him to return for a last-minute assist. His resolve with his philosophy never wavered, even after getting his soul devoured. This episode is one long sequence of foreshadowing and character moments paying off. And it's not over yet...

[@TheMadhatter1313]

The reason why the sacrifices and people like Scar and wrath weren't swallowed into father was because they were still within his circle to not get swallowed up. Scar and wrath were just higher up

[@plantcrone9662]

Yeah, we even see scar and wrath get encased in that black stuff.

[@hi00118]

Not only did the homunculus with the ultimate eye get blinded by the sun, the homunculus known as Wrath dies content with his life, with a smile on his face.

[@magortom]

Im sorry, Scars monologue about which way he will flow gets me every time, it's such a beautiful sentiment about change

[@Funnywargamesman]

Wrath just throwing those lines at Scar is one of the highlights of a rewatch for me. Just the incredulity at Scar's actions as well as the fact that... Wrath's actually right!

[@darthroden]

Who would have thought Kimblee being totally insane and his disgust with hypocrisy would end up making him a kind-of anti-hero in the end?

[@Dialga9187]

This is the episode where everyone began to rethink their opinions on Kimblee. After all this, he's certainly one of my favourite characters.

[@BlazeWolf9511]

I know a few commments have already pointed it out but, Wrath did in fact love his wife. He was stating that his choice was enough of a statement on its own. Thats why no other words needed to be said. He chose her. And that was the only choice he was allowed to make in his life.

[@pedanticperson1149]

While Father looks a bit like a fit & healthy Al, it's just a younger/more perfect version of Hohenhiem when he was young (when he was just Slave 23). As for Pride, he was deteriorating because he forced Mustang to open the Portal of Truth, and Ed was able to beat him/turn himself into a philosopher's stone because he'd already transmuted his soul to heal himself at the mine (it was a little silly, but works if you think about it).

[@chefscrimp1687]

Wrath being blinded and then dying in peace just hits me everytime

[@alexandersturnn4530]

*Homunculi dying Ironic Deaths, Continuation* 5.: Wrath. Dies peacefully and without a trace of anger, hatred or rage in his heart, while reflecting on how much he ultimately enjoyed life among Humans, despite looking down on them. For extra irony, he dies at the hands of an Ishvalan Priest after being blinded by the fading eclipse, brought down by arguable an act of God and the hands of a man whose People he genocided...and who overcame his anger and hatred over that to become a better man. 6: Pride. Well, okay, he didn't actually die, but being reduced to a harmless fetus still counts for this list in my book. For all his pride in being a Homunculus, it's the sin of pride - corrupt self-interest and justification of any self-serving action, no matter how contradictory and hypocritical - that undoes him. When his body starts falling apart, he attempts to possess the body of a creature he looks down on (Ed, a human) to save himself. This act of hypocrisy is one of the few transgressions that Kimblee doesn't tolerate, so he reasserts himself within Pride and gives Ed an opening to defeat him. In addition, Pride is being reduced from the single most powerful of Father's Homunculi to a small, helpless Fetus, probably the most humble thing he could be reduced to. And finally, this happens to him at the hands of Edward Elric...a Character whose primary Arc involves facing and overcoming his own sin of Pride and getting in touch with his humility. More to come...

[@theeternalshade2981]

I always love seeing Kimblee step in to stop Pride. Not because he believes in Ed; but because Ed is the one who stayed true to his beliefs when Pride was willing to throw his away. Kimblee's twisted sense of honor ended up saving the day.

[@hi00118]

Also, Pride dying because Kimblee couldn't abide Pride abandoning his pride and lowering himself by taking over the body of someone he thought was a lower life form, is probably my second favorite of the homunculi deaths

[@tommcburney301]

Bradley only ever had two things that he could make his own decisions on. How he fights, and his wife's affection.

[@hotlinechernobyl5157]

21:08 thats the most adorable thing I've ever seen... "Darling!" "IZUMI!!!!" I love these 2.

[@govind.m86]

The man simply takes no Ls. Even with God's intervention and his arms blown off he still got a final blow in.

[@roguejacket]

Ed has been through the portal of truth 3 or 4 times and has gotten new knowledge each time. He has also used souls for energy a couple times, so he converted his soul to energy to reach the true form of the homunculus and separate the excess souls.

[@francescawhite4166]

Wrath dying at peace, with no wrath left in his heart, is the irony of his death.

[@ScorpionStrike7]

So many crazy things happened in this episode. Love all these ironies with the 7 deadly sins. Wrath dying in peace and Pride being humbled by Kimbly

[@skyllamma991]

I would say that’s not just about being married to the Fuhrer with wraths death. When spouses part in death, there, it really is no words that really need to be spent together they know they cared and loved each other. Bradley did love his wife. He chose her as he said, and she chose him remember back to when Willy Tiber died in AOT. He just says I’m sorry. Look at for the kids. There’s no words about loving each other because they already know.

[@MarkTheShadow]

They really subscribed to their theory that it's Al even if the scene before basically told them Dwarf in the flask's goal 🤣 Also just because Scar's tattoo is Alkahestry it doesn't mean he can heal himself. Just like alchemy, it requires knowledge. Ed learned to use his soul as philosopher's stone when he healed himself when he got impaled in Briggs. That trick was used here again to get the true form of pride

[@ShirouBrando]

God Kimbley is such a well written character I absolutely love his exit

[@ajanimorris5855]

I think you guys missed the irony of wrath's death. In the end, at the moment of his death, he was at peace with dying.

[@Kaempfdog]

I left a moment of silence for those that had “passed” last episode. The country wide transmutation circles is considered one of the biggest mind-f-s’ in anime history. Each of the Homunculi’s deaths resulting in more and more ironic deaths. Lust- undesired Gluttony- devoured Envy- wishing well of those he is so jealous of Sloth- going all out and trying to get back up Wrath- at peace Pride- disgraced Silent communication is among the purest forms of love there is. And the two weren’t the talking consorting couple. They had worked out the issues of their relationship a while ago. And he may be a monster to everyone, but to her, she truly thinks well of him. (I will also note Bradley didn’t really choose his words of how he communicates with his wife very well, but I do believe this is what he was speaking of.) Bradley didn’t get to choose his life, but he chose two things actively. He chose Mrs Bradley, and he chose his duel to the death with Scar instead of facing the group and keeping them from interfering with Father. So to explain what Ed did, he used a more advanced move that he used to stitch himself up after getting skewered in the mineshaft but took it up a notch to get the core of the stone and break it all but the pure base. (Which I think Hohenheim was planning on this to defeat Father when he infected him at the start of their battle when they looked identical.) So what you see is Selim Bradley without extraneous souls like Envy’s tadpole form. There is a base creature. (Also Kimblee’s disgracing pride is among my FAVORITE moments in FMA. Especially after he’s disgraced him, Kimblee waves his hat and says goodbye. Also Father became the perfect being and made his own individuality. Long flowing gold hair, golden eyes, SHREDDED muscles, and the possibility to do anything. A shinito is what May called him. You know. At a mild cost. 50 million. He should be back to approximately the same soul count as Hohenheim. Half a million, and cut it in half for his Homunculi children. And that’s what the two of them have to work with. And now EVERY alchemist is much stronger than before. Their transmutations should all be greater than they were now that Scar’s brother’s reverse circle. Setting the stage for the ending fights now that there’s no one left to face but him.

[@neubaufahrzeug9339]

Ed basically just turned his soul into energy to invade prides body.

[@12thLevelSithLord]

31:48 This is why I think that they didn't say "FullMetal Alchemist" during Scar's title card an episode or two back, which normally happens for dead characters. Not because Scar, the man, is dead but because Scar, the identity, is dead. He's a new man now, having finally left his rage behind.

[@gummybearchewy5444]

If I am remembering where I heard this from the writer did an interview at one point where she was asked about Wrath’s skills reducing with time but still being so powerful. Her reply was that if the day of reckoning happened when he was in his prime no one would have been able to beat him.

[@DXDragon38]

Wrath’s final fight with Scar still gives me chills!

[@grayowl7581]

Pride: He turned himself into a philosophers stone and now he’s forcing himself inside me!? Archer: Phrasing! I love how at the end the day, Ed’s life is saved by…*checks notes*…Kimbly’s psychopathic honour code.

[@marti9734]

The irony was that WRATH was the one who died at PEACE. I loved it

[@phantom9831]

6:52 THIS SCENE shows how far the author gone for her manga. Since the start, we know that Alchemy needs a circle to work. But there's no precision of what type of circle it is, because THERE'S NO specific type of circle, at a point that even a circle created by the moon's shadow can be used for alchemy

[@Lupinemancer87]

It's not really known whether god is an actual sentient being, like people believe in our world, but it is heavily implied that god is the mass of knowledge and power that governs the laws of nature, and Father has now absorbed that very power, commanding it as he wills.

[@Doktor_Youth]

Kimblee coming in clutch at the end of the episode will always be one of my fav scenes in the show aside from the train fight w/ scar

[@Samgreen90]

(At 3:55) like hohenheim, they were in the center of all of it. Even Greed and May were unaffected by this.

[@kal.august.yippee]

That scene of Ed and Al with Hohenheim still makes me emotional. I love this show so much!

[@fajarkurniawan9434]

yeah there was no intro song because the singer and all the musicians were already dead and when Hohenheim managed to play his UNO card, and everybody get their soul back and brought back to life they begin to sing and play the music again

[@ScorpionStrike7]

Father didn’t look like old Al, he looked like young Hohenheim

[@KenjiTheSnek]

So as people here have said in the comments: Wrath’s death is ironic THREEFOLD. One: Wrath dies peacefully, with a smile on his face, like falling into a long rest. Two: He doesn’t believe in god, and constantly, throughout the series, shuts down any notion of “god’s wrath” and “divine intervention” (such as with the people of Ishval trying to secure a surrender), but AS HE IS ACTIVELY DENYING GOD, the light of the sun behind the eclipse starts to shine, and blinds him, as if in an act of providence and divinity. Three: Wrath, with his ultimate eye that only sees weakness, ultimately becomes blinded by his wrath through divine intervention.

[@lilsmileyg2777]

If you really look Al head shaped like his dad with his jawline but his facial features are his mom. Edward head is made exactly like his mom but has his dad facial features but both Ed and Al have Hohenheim eyes since his people are known for their golden eyes

[@AnarchHive]

"That's Al... that looks like an old Al!" **sad young Hohenheim noises**

[@FBI_Metal_Slime]

Glad you notice wrath being blinded by god! It's a really interesting twist of irony. Throughout the show King Bradley (wrath) constantly makes comments showing his disbelief in god. He outright mocks the ishvalans for their faith, and even dares their god to strike him down to prevent the genocide of their chosen people. He makes it very clear that he finds the very idea of a higher power absurd. In his final battle with scar, wrath mocks and challenges scar on how he has essentially betrayed his religion by using alchemy, before making the final statement that scar must have known deep down that there was no ishvalla at all. HOWEVER, it would be an act of god that ultimately sealed Wrath's fate. Both in many real world religions and in alchemy, an eclipse is seen as a symbol for god itself. The show further leans into that by having the eclipse literally be the gateway for The Truth. It would be the eclipse (or god) moving just so slightly enough that light would reflect off of Wrath's sword and into his one good eye, giving scar the chance he needed to land the killing blow. Wrath's dare for god to strike him down finally came full circle. And in another fun twist of irony, Wrath dies at peace with himself and his life.

[@SerpentineDeity]

Hiromu's writing is godly. Kenny and specially Montana kept on being annoyed and hating on Kim but in the end both ended up respecting the him. He who had the most pride of them all as he was never willing to compromise his (questionable) morals. Prick or not he taught a lesson to Riza, Mustang, and Pride as one with unshaken conviction.

[@unclebobboomergames]

Wrath died at peace. And i like how the woman he chose as his wife at the beginning was a woman who struck him. Irs fittinf that wrath chose a wife who btch smacked him on their first date. Fitting

[@miguelosvaldofloresdomingu8911]

This episode is easily one of the 5 best of the series and one of the best anime episodes out there imo

[@MaxWelton]

4:11 Hohenheim: you mean you actually did it? Father: Yes. I have done what I set out to do. Become the sexiest man alive.

[@Wizard_Lizard_]

To this day, Hohenheim still has the greatest Uno Reverse in anime history.

[@hydrangeyes2170]

Genuinely forgot Ed went into the stone to stop pride, so that was a nice/cool surprise 🤔

[@DaDunge]

31:30 Which is the moment God in the form of the eclipse stepped in and saved him.

[@strawberrycatastrofy257]

I think this is one of the more confusing episodes on the first go around. But everything does makes sense in the context of everything we've seen so far! An immense amount of foreshadowing in the last 60 episodes. Each significant moment in this episode (and there are many!) really deserves a series of flashbacks to give full context. The second and third viewing of this series is very fulfilling.

[@luminaryprism75]

Hohenheim being my favorite character moment #1000

[@coreyoak]

I hope y'all react to the bloopers for the show once its done

[@MaxWelton]

20:17 it’s Blonde Sephiroth.

[@Cameron39829]

I think wraiths speech about his wife was heavily affected by how highly he viewed himself. He was saying that just the fact that HE chose her should explain to them why no greater words need be said its because she understands him and understands who he is, maybe not what he is, but who and understands that this mostly how he wishes to die. That's what I took from it

[@DaDunge]

8:00 His sacrifices at the outside of the Amestris circle, the crests of blood, were expended.

[@ladabudilova9262]

Kimblee is the MVP. Such a great reading of Pride by him

[@ShadowSkyX]

Imagine the other countries and their reactions to seeing all this lol.

[@houseofaction]

notice how Pride said to ED, "Like my father, hohenheims blood runs through my blood" meaning the sins are all biologically related to Ed and Al, the children of identical twins are biologically half siblings unless those identical twins married identical twins. so Ed, Al, Pride, Envy, Lust,glutony, greed, sloth and Wrath are just one extended family. genetically speaking they would be Ed and Als half siblings but socially they would be their cousins. all of them aside from Wrath who was created from a regular human. but logically speaking Father could have absorbed Wrath back into himself and created a body from Hohenheims DNA like the rest

[@Torbox1]

I've always noticed Major Armstrong's choice of pillar when they ascend to chase Father but I only now noticed that Hohenheim's pillar is just a regular square platform and so is Al's but Ed's is a hand and so is Izumi's. There is a pattern if you examine their styles/personalities. Unless Ed is really mad/frantic, like chasing Paninya, he uses hands and other complex shapes in his alchemy even during fights but Al rarely uses complex shapes, he just sticks to squares and the like. Ed has been able to use "clapping" alchemy for a long time and so he has never had to make a complex transmutation circle to make these complex shapes, he just thinks about it, and he learned from Izumi who also uses "clapping" alchemy. Al on the other hand has had to manually draw out his circles until just recently so he uses basic shapes because the circles are simpler. Hohenheim always seems to be a minimalist or the type of person who uses energy and time efficiently in order to reduce waste. I also think the hands may be, counterintuitively, easier to picture doing exactly what you want vs a basic shape. This obviously relys on a few assumptions.

[@joshuagross3151]

5:11 Notice the lack of fear in Ed's eyes. He's witnessing a true miracle of sorts, something beyond even science that lends credence to a concept of divinity he wasn't able to previously comprehend. Those are the eyes of a child peering in wonder at something amazing. It's like going to a zoo as a child and seeing a lion up close for the first time. You forget the unease of being so close to such a deadly predator, instead feeling awe-struck at the sheer size and stature of the creature on the other side of that glass. It's pure fascination, devoid of sense or any other emotion that could mitigate an almost obligatory curiosity. For that single moment, Icarus felt the sun's warmth and wanted more.

[@cunningsmile4166]

Wrath loved his wife the moment she smacked him when they met. Nope. Not joking. Her firecracker temper is what drew him in. He asked Lust and Envy about women and how to compliment them.

[@alperonce]

Hohenheim is Godlike character, really underrated

[@farihabintayenayet1222]

Wow, that amazing, this episode was so much. I can't believe there's just 3 episodes left (for me). And yeah I have been waiting for Ed's huge main character/protagonist moment and I think it's gonna be next episode. And also Wrath and Pride's dead we're really amazing and ironic as well. And can't wait to see how this amazing show wraps up.

[@CenKyne]

Ed again converts his lifeforce partially into a stone like when he healed himself but it allowed him to interact with the sea of souls and rip the human component apart from the homunculus therefore not killing a human

[@scriptos9698]

He actually took on the form of Hohenheim when he was still young

[@TheJokerAkaCirque]

Fun fact: the manga was released on a monthly basis, not weekly like most manga or like episodes of a show. We had to wait a whole fucking month after each of these cliffhangers back in the day. Including the "everyone dies" one. It was very stressful

[@nucleargandhi2709]

My interpretation of Pride's inability not to obey Father is that he cannot separate his identity from that of Father's. Whereas the other sins are generally oriented around some form of desire, pride is a sin of identity, a state of mind that evaluates one's own being as more capable and more valuable than others, especially God. Pride understands that he is a distinct being from his father, but he is _Father's_ pride, the hubris of the being he was born of. Despite the irony, it's only natural that such a homunculus could not imagine living as anything but a servant of the being whose pride it carries.

[@DanielleMDM93]

Loved this reaction so much, thank you both! I know you already watched the bloopers, but I hope you guys will also watch the OVAs as well!

[@kal.august.yippee]

Ironic Homunculus death: Wrath. Killed by a wrathful person who let it behind, while he who was calm, got really openly wrathful. But int he end died in peace. Also the ultimate eye was blinded by god.

[@pwnorbepwned]

Edward Elric and Solf J. Kimblee. Pride went up against not one, but two people more prideful than him in a contest of souls. Poor kid never stood a chance. Amestrian alchemy was founded by Father, so all the alchemists who learned how to harness tectonic energy learned it from him. The philosopher’s stone that makes up his being was stretched throughout those pipes underground, and he himself acted as a buffer for tectonic energy in Amestris. This limited the potential for all Amestrian alchemists who relied on his teachings, funneled tectonic energy to himself to fuel his own alchemy and supplement the power of his stone, and allowed him an “off switch” to disable Amestrian alchemy by putting a stranglehold on tectonic energy if need be. Scar’s brother’s reverse transmutation circle didn’t just disable Father’s off switch, it negated his buffer effect on the nation. Not only can he no longer prevent Amestrian alchemy from being used, but Amestrian alchemists now have greater access to tectonic energy than ever before. Their alchemical potential is now unfettered by Father for the first time in history. TL;DR: All Amestrian alchemists just got a power boost.

[@DaDunge]

4:45 No ita not Al its the age Hohenheim was when the dwarf in the flask was created from his blood.

[@merlinsmusings]

Baccano! It's a shorter anime, sixteen episodes, made by the same people behind FMA. Lots of fun! :)

[@gabecajamarca]

Just when u think think the previous episode is mind blowing, they absolutely top it with this episode! So much hype, tears of joy it’s an insane episode

[@blainewheaton9679]

Ed is probably the most skilled soul alchemist in the setting. He uses it more than anyone than perhaps his father or the golden tooth man

[@dadatosu4702]

Not matter how many times I've watched this anime, I was here, eating my pizza and crying 😭🤣👌 I love this.

[@dumbraven7763]

While it does build from ed using a stone to escape gluttony, to him using that feeling to heal himself, to him using THAT feeling to defeat pride...I'll admit that it is the one single part of fma that broke my engagement haha So glad I have Thursday off so I wont miss the premiere again!

[@zelithfang2365]

Omfg LOL. I was worried you guys would have done this, you guys wouldn't drop the whole "someone is gonna steal Als body" thing and I knew you'd think father stole his body. Oh well

[@LettsReact]

Don’t worry, we figured it out after this Ep!

[@christianhristov2525]

After this series I recommend watching the 2003 version of the fullmetal alchemist as it is really good too + there is a movie to conclude the series and you see some different point of view to the series end and I think both adaptations are worth watching equally. The other anime I recommend is known by a lot of people, but it’s not one a lot ppl spoke about. Steins;Gate. It’s one of the best animes I’ve watched and if you decide to watch it, it’s gonna be one of the best decisions in your life I swear. Also you should watch it in chronological order. There are so much good and og animes, but you won’t be wrong with this one!