HoI4 Challenge: Turkey on STEROIDS! Is Turan overpowered?

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A guide for HoI4 Battle for the Bosporus as Turkey now with up to 150% more T0nk!
Following the steps laid out in this guide will help you to form the Khaganate of Turan and fulfill the destiny of the Turkic Peoples!
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[@czech_ring]

44:21 ah yes the TURKISH focus that gives you CLAIMS ON TURKEY

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Based Janissaries moment

[@gildedphoenix]

One must acknowledge that what they're claiming is theirs in the first place.

[@cipkasvay]

"One more?" "No." "One more?" "No." "One more?" "No." "One more?" "No." "One more?" "No."...

[@Onlyferries]

One more yes

[@kamikazefrancais]

Loot boxes in a nutshell

[@Joseph_V._Gaming]

One more?

[@user-fb7mz6gc7q]

​@@Joseph_V._Gaming yes

[@floppi7098]

@@kamikazefrancaislitterally

[@ExtermicideN7]

44:21 When the spirit of Jannisaries is so strong, you have the urge to claim your own country even several centuries later.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Turkey conquers all, even itself!

[@bekirarslan1443]

@@Bitt3rSteelantill we reached ower own homes and conquer it from over fathers. 😂 Edit: Now my Home my Rules Dad 😂

[@anabe3785]

My family had janissaries in our ancestry. Being turk is great

[@officialzji1828]

Just the word "Khaganate" to an empire just sounds amazing and cool

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

Based Nomad moment

[@skyrex1458]

@@Gun_Metal_Grey 🐎🏹

[@kaztarihtanu]

The word Horde itself means centralised state in turkic/nomadic languages. Horde(english), Orda/Orta(turkic languages) means center or capital. And the Ulus, Khanate, Khaganate just means the size/level of the Hodre state. If it js a subject of Khanate/Khaganate it is Ulus. And depending on the number of tributary states a Horde can be either Khanate and Khaganate. For instance, first Turkic Khaganate had China, Ephtalites and Avars as a tributary states. While the Crimean Khanate had only Ruthenia and Moscovy to pay it tributes. So if the state is only regional power it is Khanate. And if the Horde is multicontinental/multiregional it becomes Khaganate.

[@Sahtoovi]

A small exploit (if you can call it that) for the Kurds: Set them to no garrisons and wait until they start an uprising, then crush that and the resistance will be much easier to manage because the Kurd modifiers are gone

[@KarakuraRiser]

Huh🤔, that happened between 2013-2016 in Turkey.

[@Potatotenkopf]

@@KarakuraRiser kek

[@feyenoord1821]

@@KarakuraRiser wut how did i notice that im living in the very east of turkey since 2010 or so 🤔

[@kreitzerova2371]

@@feyenoord1821 He means the resolution process and the subsequent Hendek Operations.

[@Riptide314]

But you can’t get cores in those states if you do that

[@josephcola9662]

56:40 There are few things more enjoyable than the successful micro of tanks in hoi4

[@Bitt3rSteel]

It just feels soooooo good when it works out

[@aliendood2255]

When you're done with all the poll requests you should do One Empire. I feel like that would be fun to watch

[@officialzji1828]

Me too! I like that

[@somekid538]

As a fascist UK

[@HonestHappyHater]

Better yet, do One Empire with cores on Syria, Brasil, Tahiti, Angola, Bechwanaland, Puerto Rico and Ermland-Masuren. It's extremely difficult, but it's hypotheticly doable

[@mjxw]

One Empire is really easy though. He already did the "flip f-scist Britain without losing your colonies" playthrough and after that, it's just a question of grinding out endless justifications and wars.

[@somekid538]

@@mjxw He didn't form the EU as f-scist Britain, that's what I want to see.

[@BasedEddie]

When BitterSteel posts you know its gonna be a good day.

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

Taureor got pretty boring... hope Bitt3rSteel won't turn out the same in some months.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I'll keep that in mind

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

@@Bitt3rSteel Well, you've got total control over that. Taureor used to prepare his runs and knew what he was talking about. These days it's mostly "Oops, didn't see this coming" or "Oops forgot about that". Some people might find that interesting but I want to see map painting and success ;).

[@markion2185]

@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse Taureor has a family you know? So yea he is really busy at those days

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Well I'm to be a father soon (TM) so my time may be spent on other things! But I will certainly try to keep the bar for content as high as I can!

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

Well, a long time coming, but a welcoming surprise to be sure, also at 49:22 invading my city(Baku, 10 Victory points with 98 oil) with Turkish Panzers was a nice touch, :D Another brilliant Bitt3rSteel production!

[@erensametkaratas6593]

Türkiye'den selamlar

[@sklatvia_]

this is a certified gamer moment

[@emin166]

based

[@Psychonide]

44:22 I didn't know Turkey was about to go to war with Turkey very interesting

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Trust no one, not even yourself

[@doctoberfest1487]

*Happy Turk Noises*

[@nealsalman170]

Profile picture checks out.

[@doctoberfest1487]

@@itisusername Exactly

[@jeffhask367]

Everyone: Keep the Vichy French navy Bittersteel: OCCITANNIA

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Pétain has crossed me for the last time!

[@SpaniardYT]

Excellent video as usual! The opening strat seems oddly familiar *wink wink* :). Now, my thoughts on the strat: About the Kurds, the reason why you were unsuccesful so many times in a row is because, when you fail, you are not only losing stability, but also increasing resistance. After 25-30% resistance (I forgot which one) the odds of the decision change dramatically (from 49-50% to 79-80% chance of failing), and not only that, but after you pass that threshold you may also increase the level of the modifier by 1 when you fail (which doesn't happen when resistance is below that). This is why is so important to reduce the resistance to the minimum before going for the decisions (in my Sèvres video I also went for Secret Police, nowadays I go straight for Military Governor or Martial Law, to get resistance to 0% before going for the decisions). Still, this is completely a gamble and it is better to restart if screwed by the seed as you said. About getting the 30% support for the "brown" ideology: you can speed up the process significantly by 1) Spamming the decision "revolutionism" that you get access to after getting the "brown" prime minister (which also increases your stability, making republicanism usually unnecessary) and 2) Ban the "red" ideology, which comes in handy because revolutionism increases both and you will convert part of the "red" support into "brown" support Now, Etatism: I think it is completely not worth to keep if the price is staying on civilian economy. Just think about it: the national spirit gives you -7% consumer goods, +5% Mils and +15% civs construction, while going to partial mobilization from civilian economy means -10% consumer goods, +40% mils and +30% civs construction. Just because of that is a better option, but additionally, while you have Etatism, the decisions to build civilian factories in exchange for PP are much more expensive (100 PP each to be precise). For the Clodius Agreement, it is worth it to build infrastructure in Bursa, you only need to build 3 at the beginning of the game, while you have Etatism with the bonus for infrastructure, to get 2 mils and max infrastructure in that region. The other regions you can do this on are not worth the cost. About the focuses, you do not need to go for the Oniki Islands, Reconciliation, the Fifth Columnist or the Scars of the Great War: you can go straight for "Abuse the office of soil products" right after Fatherland first and get access to Reconfigure the Foreign Policy directly and get down the focus tree faster. If you don't need/want to speed it up, you could use the time of those focuses to do the army focuses instead to remove some maluses early (much better option IMO). On the Vichy peace deal: I completely agree with you in not puppeting Petain, but I would advice to annex the African territories directly: they start with high compliance and are an excellent source of manpower, while having them as puppets is pretty much useless due to the lack of industry/resources. And last, as I mentioned in your Twitch stream, I think Iraq and Iran are not the best targets for the early game, there are other targets than will allow you more interesting options, if I ever find the time to record another video I'll show it :)

[@Bitt3rSteel]

The Professor knows all! Good advice, as usual!

[@zuluuu]

are you still going to do it? we're waiting man

[@Grenthh]

Where can we find your videos as well? Also, what other countries are better target at the beginning?

[@b3n_w3lsh-74]

Go outside 😊

[@st.valentinesday4427]

Man, you deserve at least couple of millions subscribers. Best of the best

[@yunus1074]

opened up a 4 minutes timer after the stream

[@soccer2014worldcup]

Finally waiting for this vid for 2 weeks.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I've been busy, but I hope it's worth the wait!

[@soccer2014worldcup]

@@Bitt3rSteel10 mins into the vid and really loving it great work mate

[@SkY-hv4tw]

i thought you were joking in your stream, what a lad, you did post it in 20 minutes

[@hydranmenace]

That free france bug was absolutely ridiculous. Good on you for not just trashing the whole run. I would have been irate. It's nice seeing people able to pull this stuff off. Makes me thing I can eventually learn this game well enough that my armies actually progress. I am really bad, and the game is terrible at explaining things.

[@gildedphoenix]

He had 2-3 moments to justify trashing the run yet he dealt with it.

[@1kvolt1978]

If you want to do deep breakthroughs and big encirclements, like you did here, and to not lose expensive tank divisions, consider recruiting some fast motorized divs to fill the fronline behind your tanks fast, like it actually was done in real life. Moto is quite easy to produce in numbers and when you switch your tank divs to mechanized, you free up even more moto. Use it. Even 10 width moto div with no support companies could give the time for your main beefier inf divs to arrive.

[@dreinacho]

Amazing Video, keep up the great work!

[@McEldercraftHD]

Real smooth music when you show the combat 👌🏻

[@TheTrueForbidden]

44:22 Im glad you recognise that land as a part of turkiye, because it is

[@bayat53]

Just popped back in to watch this one. I wonder why paradox didn't think to take the kaiserreich alternate history political aspect to mongolia to remake the Mongol empire. That would have been amazing to see the best implementation of total war blitzkrieg into action

[@cedrikullrich4298]

I'd love to see you try and form Persia or Arabia sometime. In my opinion, both are relatively difficult, with Persia still being quite a bit easier than Arabia due to Iran's higher population and factory count than all of the Arabian countries. It's obviously not gonna be nearly as complicated as restoring Andalusia, but it still seems like a reasonable challenge.

[@dub2juicy190]

These videos go well with a cup of tea.

[@nekozilla0898]

bitt3steel and coffe just the perfect combination to start the day

[@steadyzz2371]

THANK YOU YOU FINALLY DID IT I LOVE YOU

[@itstaylor2137]

The water from a rock joke had me rolling

[@Cerabelus]

That stability hurt's...recently I did a massive Guangxi game and the Allies late game Strat bombed my war support to 0 for years, I won eventually and going dispersed industry really helps prevent losing too many factories, I haven't gone back to concentrated for over a year.

[@LeBaron101]

I remember when this channel was so small it needed recommendations from the comments, If you're reading this Bittersteel, I'm the guy that recommended the Netherlands guide

[@nickstoneham5629]

Still waiting for Luxembourg world conquest

[@necy6914]

Amazing video bro

[@yaboipalps8616]

Bro this gonna be lit

[@MutaVision]

Nice video again. Plz do Arabia guide/challenge as Iraq. it's been a very long wait for that guide. thank you

[@ryancarter3468]

I have been waiting for this! Exciting! Love your content. I really enjoy watching your non-achievement content (like forming hard nations and mods) as I tend to watch your achievement content only after I have tried for it and either failed (and need your guidance) or succeeded and want to see what I could do better (and for the enjoyable content). Keep up the excellent work!

[@mechrocancer9319]

7-2s: *exist* Bitt3rSteel: *Screaming incoherently*

[@nanni-buyerofcopper]

Me jamming out to the absolute bangers bittersteel uses in his vids:

[@alpaca1033]

Great vid! How about a Hardly anything sevre guide!

[@vivatchristvsrex2663]

You pronounced Ismet Inönü pretty well dont worry

[@Bitt3rSteel]

All the accents had me worried there

[@adanifallito956]

Hi jesus

[@erensametkaratas6593]

He's surprisingly really good at pronunciations

[@emin166]

@@erensametkaratas6593 sanayiciler hariç

[@hi_I_am_depressed]

28:30 I love your time lapse battle music

[@ScabiousGarde]

That Iran pocket would act totally differently today, the AI is still AI, but what a great improvement from this example of not even a year ago

[@ShadowFace-fh5zc]

45:00 for the border wars I just put 10 divs plus a ton of land forts on the boarder. That way you can just leave this area out of eyesite because you will have no problem with it

[@jeffhask367]

As a Turk I’m proud

[@user-hr5mu3dr5h]

Of all the genocide you did to Armenians and Slavs?

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Pls, no politics, just memes

[@al.bay24]

@@user-hr5mu3dr5h imagine mentioning genocide in a map game video lmao degenerate

[@jeffhask367]

@@user-hr5mu3dr5h For Bittersteel’s sake I will not respond to your provocation.

[@alicanaksoy2969]

@@user-hr5mu3dr5h Yes.

[@johnnyhagberg129]

anyone notice how he didnt lose command power as he was fighting the kurdish rebels?

[@Quill0908]

This was a fun stream to join in

[@antasil5768]

I recently did a Turan run ofc, but now I want to do it with tanks!!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

There's a certain satisfaction when you micro a handful of tank divisions towards glorious encirclements

[@Gemini353]

@@Bitt3rSteel in this setup if you're like really bored you can do a shitload of 40 width modern tanks and conquer the world virtually unopposed in like 1952. I did it with like 96 divisions 😂 too much free time

[@KNtinos7]

you did it!

[@dabbingtoast7743]

Man I love border wars. Not only does it induce a bunch of buggy bullshit fueled rage, but it has killed multiple Guan Xi Clique runs just because I lose a random border conflict with China because why would you ever need to know what provinces to put your infantry in? Great mechanic 10/10

[@TygrimIronhammer]

Here after the stream lmao

[@2milk867]

bless your heart for suffering through this one!

[@Turkishgamer-zm5cm]

very good video

[@sapienplus1998]

Nice video...Good job! 7:48 Don't worry about low stability while you are playing with Turkey :) After you finish 'ratify the six arrows' focus you will get some juicy decisions and they give you lots of stability.Slow but effective.

[@SlekensuOfficial]

Thank man for that template single player i guess 13/7 heavy is so good as germany i didnt even used medium tanks and i still crushed them i also made king Tiger by 1941 Normal Tiger by end of 1938 kinda op germany

[@willywonka6487]

I just did this, founded turan in 1944, first time as turkey. (playing on recruit helps with first time lmao)

[@fictionwojak3595]

I literally encircled all of the Iraqi army and they had like only 1 division left. I just had to walk through their land. Great tutorial by the way.

[@nickstoneham5629]

Luxembourg world conquest when? Come on Bitt3r, I know you are capable, far more than I.

[@Negetive2digit]

45:58 This reminds me of my Ottoman game where Bulgaria had been absorbed by Serbia, I think it was, and they kept investing in stuff to make my state more Democratic. I guess ghost countries have money to invest in factories now. Worse, if you've banned Democracy, that option's gone and you only have anti-democratic raids (which only work when they're above 10%) and the raids just break even with the .05% they're adding, meaning there's no way besides the console to effectively counter this. Even worse, Germany can start also adding in Fascism support to make your Non-Aligned support even lower.

[@Daniel-vj9oq]

Hoi4 will be getting railways and trains. New dev diary

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Dear god, I like trains!

[@halowerder3356]

I hope they plan on adding competent AI aswell haha

[@Potatotenkopf]

For the border conflict does it have to be the entire army? It's been a while since they did it to me as turkey and I don't remember if it works the same but with the soviets I usually leave a fairly small army of like 20 20 w infantry on the Japanese ussr Korean border and I don't have to park everything there.

[@taqiag4440]

Thanks for uniting my kins 💙

[@muhammadhafidzbawafi3457]

3:20. man i almost jump out from my chair

[@johnmorgan2846]

Love your videos...but with tanks I have more success using lights (much faster). I feel the breakthrough with lights is sufficient but the speed completely counters anything in the med and heavy class. I bump the reliability and speed so they are 16 kp/h. Nothing the AI makes can keep up allowing for crazy pushes and encirclements

[@rps215]

Actually I often use some more stupid division templates with some decent success, like 40W Heavy Tanks and Camel

[@keow81]

Hi there. I am following the guide but I do jot seem to be able to grow command power fast enough like you do in the video. What am I missing?

[@SkYHawK2600]

Hey yoooooo finally!!

[@LuckyDuckling1512]

What is the tank template? This looks really fun

[@diffusemovie3408]

Here's a fun mod: Great War Redux 45:13 you: "I hate u paradox" 56:46 you:"This is the best game ever"

[@Qwerka]

55:03 that encirclement looks like old hubgary

[@Qwerka]

hubgary

[@stormslitner]

Tank Division Be Like: Why are we attacking a mountain province again?

[@v4n1tyy]

I love democracy

[@bodives]

You can mobilize the economy while having Etatism. The problem is that you take a stability and PP debuff and it decreases the bonus of -7% consumer goods to -5%. In my opinion it is totally worth to keep a mobilized economy with Etatism until you go to war against the soviets

[@arthurquiliaom.macedo4415]

quietly watching the studio learn from the modders...

[@kspaltaka464]

I don't know how you get naval supremacy it is difficult i used paratropers to invade vichy it is more easy that way imo. Nice guide overall anyway. I can say i learn to play this game by looking at your germany video.

[@drmezzy]

Major W, bossman

[@FleischerJack]

Suggestion : Reform the Majapahit Empire and make the Dutch to become your puppet as the Dutch East Indies.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Spicy, I like it

[@artquimine2170]

Forming Turan Volkswagen: is this for me ?

[@dantejones1480]

18:36, Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs as the saying goes.

[@eliottjortay3522]

"The bald told me to do" 😂

[@sellosama9741]

Btw on the italy chromium event offer friendship always worked for me XD

[@sellosama9741]

you have to improve relations to 100 and then while doing the focus make sure you are improving relations as well always works

[@robertalaverdov8147]

11:20 being that you're swimming in Chromium as Turkey I would have gone for heavy tanks with cavalry. It's cheaper and 6.4 kmh is the speed of a heavy 2 with engine 3. Later on you could add Mech or Amtracs. You'll have less tank divisions but they'll be god tier.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Heby T0nk is just too expensive in the long run and not needed. I prefer my speedy Meds, even if i have to import Tungsten for them.

[@robertalaverdov8147]

@@Bitt3rSteel But heby is stronk! Big tonk crush fort and puny meds. Add amtrak to turn heby into big death machine. Port smash! River smash! Swamp smash! Only need 2-4, follow up with horsies or truckies to fill in gaps. Then smash puny infantry! MP meta, make others cry and GG. Become happ!

[@charlieslegs9487]

SweetSteel

[@muzafferaydogan9315]

how could you pronounce the Turkish words so well i was amazed :D

[@Hadesramousis]

Finally a Turan Empire! :)

[@iGamezRo]

1:30 fun fact: the montreux convention is in force still to this day

[@vauha27]

A guide on those micromanagement fights of yours may be very informative instead or speed forwarding through the fights.

[@al.bay24]

Turan guy will be happy now

[@luketdmjetstar6966]

Good video

[@luketdmjetstar6966]

Also 0 dislike 🙂

[@simplypepe1732]

btw you can still take partial mobilization with etatism, you only lose 15 Stability and -0.15 Political Power

[@keroxy09]

Greetings from Turkey!

[@uguldius5042]

FINALLY

[@calebjenkins4753]

Just saying it’s easier to let the Kurds have an open revolution so u don’t lose so much stability trying to integrate them

[@zacharytaylor2423]

It seems like you hit the floor for stability anyway with the Kurdish decisions, so perhaps it would have been worth doing even more of them to farm 2k PP. That worked well for me on an Ottoman run.

[@Charlie-fk4ly]

How about a Naval Germany Challenge? Finish Plan Z before it finishes

[@suddenokular]

Goddamn, I tried another run, but this time. VICHY KEPT 70 TROOPS, and I never could get naval superiority. I love of consistant the game is...

[@Bitt3rSteel]

It's absurd how inconsistent Vichy France can be

[@suddenokular]

@@Bitt3rSteel I once experienced 2 Vichy France. Once was in Europe, and was guaranteed by Germany. The other was in North Africa and democratic, fighting in the allies (Petain ruled 2 ennemies at the same time), and we had Free France in Sub-Saharan Africa.

[@proatnothingcubes4054]

Modern day mod as Chad

[@krasnamerah1926]

Heads off to Paradox Plaza on 14.00 UTC, because the Devs would release a dev diary.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

While I'm there, maybe I can get Dan to fix his game

[@krasnamerah1926]

@@Bitt3rSteel, we all do. Heck, i want to participate on the beta so my voice can be heard too, by the way.

[@512TheWolf512]

22:20 wait, what?? didn't you synch justifications already anyway? what was that for??

[@tezec]

Yo bitter do u play other pdx games? Like vic 2 or eu4

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I love me some Paradox games! I'm not as good at the rest though. I don't play the rest enough....too busy with HoI4

[@tezec]

@@Bitt3rSteel Haha, I played hoi4 all day and tried vic 2, I love both games and now I'm trying to understand eu4. Love your videos 🥰

[@al.bay24]

Also, Italy has two options for the sale of the islands: 1. They have a good claim on the islands. 2. They have a good claim on the islands. this is real btw

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Looks like they have a good claim on the islands.

[@whitefirion1]

Hmm... 42:05. Lovely text box simply saying "Long text here!"

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I'll deny everything