One the best things I love about the first Mach x is its stability. I prefer it for steady long runs. Speed minus stability isn’t what I’m looking for so might give the update a miss.
@andorkish4 ай бұрын
Looks like a banger but these prices are getting insane.
@markspinozzi28823 ай бұрын
Inflation!!! Especially with Peba and it's put through the supercritical process
@BB-gd5pk3 ай бұрын
Bidenflation unfortunately
@TonyTonyChopper4949Ай бұрын
Bidenomics
@clevertechbot4 ай бұрын
Been loving the cielo x1 for my long runs though wish I known the Mach X2 would be this good. Especially for a 3:30-3:35 first marathon I don't really benefit from my NB elites (they're almost too stiff and plated) and just need something like the SC trainer, more cushioned Mach X. Hoka is really turning things around 👏🏼
@ADyess0862 ай бұрын
Curious to see how they compliment/contrast one another. I’ve got a pair of the machs to deliver this week. Actually considered the cielo to compliment in rotation as well
@luisperez95042 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the Mach 5 and 6. Love them! Gonna snatch the X2 today and see how feel for my “race day” shoe. Thanks for the review!!!
@supermirko8225 күн бұрын
is narrow x2 like a mach 6?
@tudon577419 күн бұрын
you guys are a very good duo!
@henrybarksdalejr.55582 ай бұрын
So, love this shoe so far and I do need some stability. It has enough for me, heel is not an issue! I tend to add a little pronation support under the insert and that works well here. The only problem I have is getting used to a shoe pushing me to run faster - it really pushes you! So I’ll have to use it as a speed day shoe and one to build towards bigger race days. WOW I just wish I were 30 years younger 😢
@Maochan814 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the Mach 6? It felt a bit firm at first, but broke in after ~50k. After more than 300k they still feel great.
@robin299914 ай бұрын
Lighter and more Peba Foam sounds good! The first one was decent but I didn' t really notice the Peba much apart from a little more cushion in the forefoot.
@NickBritten4 ай бұрын
You’re dismissing without even trying for yourself? 😂😂
@robin299914 ай бұрын
@@NickBritten Huh? I said it sounds good. And I did over 300km in the first one.
@supermirko8224 күн бұрын
i get 9.5 it s mine size . it s perfect , no narrow like a mach 6. if you want get a mach x 2 , you shoul get your usually size , fit perfectly
@shawngee14 ай бұрын
Unsure about most, but the Mach 6 was really tight in the toe box. Was really looking forward to the Mach X2, but the lack of a heal counter may cause me to stock up on the first model.
@femaciel4 ай бұрын
REALLY tight... sent it back, too much pressure over my foot even a half size up
@femaciel25 күн бұрын
@@supermirko82 Mach 6
@jordanmiller56274 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to purchase these! Thanks for the review!
@marianadefreitas51044 ай бұрын
would love to know how it compares to the superblast 2!
@i.p20884 ай бұрын
Fit narrow like Mach 6? Even in wide Mach 6 was narrow in the toebox. Only Cielo X1 works great for me.
@michaellopour74094 ай бұрын
Agree I feel like Hoka is “cutting weight” by narrowing this current generation of shoes, starting with the Arahi 7 onward at least.
@SpeedZXC3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Mach 5 has wide version and that's feel like wide. But Mach 6, I mean, wide feel like normal. And non-wide feel like narrow. I think I will just pass mach line this year.
@Alex-h3v6f2 ай бұрын
That heel slip be a deal breaker for my because I believe in the lockdown
@MrJhockley4 ай бұрын
Mockingbird, yes! It's been too long. Can't wait for the Mock X 3.
@jordanmiller56274 ай бұрын
Can you confirm release date? Sounds like you said August 1st
@muhammadzakir1292Ай бұрын
Thomas, i know you love Cielo x1 and now mach x2 ….so if you have to choose for versatile runs which one is your pick? 😅
@BelieveintherunАй бұрын
I don’t have a problem with the heel counter on the Mach x2 and the price point is lower, so I would lean in that direction. Purely on ride, I would go Cielo x1
@KoIhara3 ай бұрын
I’m glad Hoka clawed out of that EVA4EVA design direction
@telebiopic3 ай бұрын
Please do some kind of abrasion test on Hoka shoes, as the 3 pairs I’ve owned till date wears out a bit too early compared to Nike and Puma.
@devanteross28383 ай бұрын
Curious if the BITR team was sent the Hoka Skyflow?
@TheUsername13024 ай бұрын
So would this be suited for tempo days or would that be the mach 6?
@zachmcpherson29014 ай бұрын
The plate in this one trends it towards being better for tempo days vs the Mach unless your preference is something more flexible
@jackboltax31992 ай бұрын
Why didn't you mention the warning on the running warehouse website about the heell cup and the lack of any cushioning. and structure. The mach X had a fully structured and padded heel cup, the X2 doesn't. People have complained that the heel cup has caused irritation and bleeding in the achilles area.
@BelieveintherunАй бұрын
Cause we didn’t read it
@peterlewisful3 ай бұрын
The prices on the super trainers don’t bother me at all my whole life I would never get 300 miles out of a pair of sneakers. They would feel dead and now I’m doing like 500. I don’t even want to use this shoe anymore, but they still feel great.
@saulmartinez71793 ай бұрын
Video says Available august 2024?? What’s the actual release date ? Thanks
@bubbie23jw4 ай бұрын
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! I always try to buy a tee shirt put your always sold out😢😮 HELP! I’m also trying for the bridge run in sav ga so any tips would be AWESOME 🎉
@Believeintherun4 ай бұрын
@@bubbie23jw we need to make some new merch soon. We may have another Tracksmith collab coming soon.
@TheKingofGondor3 ай бұрын
Speed 4 vs Mach x 2?
@nickson66073 ай бұрын
How is the width compared to Mach 6?
@peterhorsey2 ай бұрын
Do you guys have any ideas or recs for helping with the heel slippage? I know some people say putting mole skin, but just wondering if you've found anything that helps?
@ethann43482 ай бұрын
Get a heel liner
@aroldoamoroso99682 ай бұрын
for a marathon just under 3 hours, are these Mach X2s without carbon plate or Rocket X2s with plate better?
@Believeintherun2 ай бұрын
Rocket
@brand0nahue3 ай бұрын
I've heard you guys have some comparison to the cielo x1, and others as well, but if you had to pick one as a 'fast shoe' but not a racer which would it be?
@Believeintherun3 ай бұрын
We have a ranking on the home page of Believeintherun.com
@wonkydonkey78992 ай бұрын
This shoe is not on the ranking list 😮
@ssos17862 ай бұрын
X2 정말 좋습니다. 쿠션특히 놀랍습니다. 정말 탕탕하고 부드럽고, 앞 뒤 정말 풍성합니다. 또 달릴때 안정적입니다. 충격흡수 / 반발력 / 안정성 모두 부족함 없습니다. 앞발/뒷발 주법 관계없지만, 특히 포어러너들이 반길만한 것 같습니다. 뒤꿈치 힐은 잘 묶고 땀/수분 등으로 마찰생기면 거슬리지 않습니다. 걸을때/서잇을 때 여느 플레이트 신발처럼 갸우뚱 하게 발이 돌아가지만, 달릴때는 안정적입니다. 느린조깅속도에서도 쿠션을 느낄 수 잇고 더 빠르게 뛰면 아디다스 프로3처럼 단단하지만 쿠션잇게 바뀝니다. Eva+peba라그래서 슈블2정도 되겟지 했는데, 더 폭신거리고 더 탱탱합니다. 슈블2가 약간 운동화느낌으로 편하게 신을 수 있는 느낌이면(성능이 나쁘단말은 아님) 마하x2는 공차러 가기전에 축구화신고 나가는 느낌? 갑피착용감이 약간 꼭맞아서 호불호는 나뉠거같습니다. 정말정말 재미잇는 신발입니다.
@Manuel-9014 ай бұрын
Good morning. Excellent description. Like to Meaghan and Thomas. Have a great day.
@patrickvanderwal63244 ай бұрын
Hoka has really been improving with their road shoes. The trail shoes are still in 2020.
@timtamothy514 ай бұрын
Just curious, what makes a good trail shoe for you?
@patrickvanderwal63244 ай бұрын
@@timtamothy51 well, that is a hard question. I loved their Speedgoat 4 and EVO. However, we're now at SG6 and it is still basically the same. After posting this comment I just saw a first impression of the Tecton X 3 so maybe I'll have to eat my words. But that's their race shoe. The normal ones are still the same. At the moment my favourite is the Endorphin Edge.
@timtamothy514 ай бұрын
@@patrickvanderwal6324 ah yes I see what you're saying. I don't have that history with Hoka trail shoes so didn't think of it that way. I use the Mafate Speed 4 because it's wide enough for me, good grip and inherently stable - not too tall, not too soft or propulsive but I feel it moves me forwards fairly well. Dunno what I'll try next but Saucony generally doesn't work for me
@joaoqrafael4 ай бұрын
@@timtamothy51Tecton X2 is my favorite running shoe - trail OR road
@wonkydonkey78994 ай бұрын
@@patrickvanderwal6324 that’s not entirely true. Their Tecton X 3 is gonna be a game changer.
@leejarrett49283 ай бұрын
Did they fix the heel cushioning mach x 1 was very brick like in the midsole heel area ?
@Believeintherun3 ай бұрын
Yes
@Diddle14144 ай бұрын
Hoka colorways look like they were picked by someone who really likes cats, ferns and has a large assortment of local honey.
@mitchellbjerke55474 ай бұрын
Typically yes but these look nice
@saltydog62413 ай бұрын
Hoka makes so many hideous designs and colorways it’s hard to believe. Just lure a designer away from Nike.
@deepmode48943 ай бұрын
Hoka has the worst colors. Who does the hiring 😆
@ADyess0862 ай бұрын
Spicy shoes make me feel faster
@deepmode48942 ай бұрын
@@ADyess086 spicy foods make me run faster in the mornings
@KillStreakMcH4 ай бұрын
Hoka is drowning me in options 😂
@melstair2 ай бұрын
What are you thoughts on the Mach X2 vs Skyward X?
@Believeintherun2 ай бұрын
Mach X2 lighter and faster, skyward X should be Bondi X2
@melstair2 ай бұрын
@@Believeintherun this is super helpful! Thank you so much! Ordering the Mach x2. 😊
@ictstudentk79564 ай бұрын
superblast 2 or mach x2?
@wonkydonkey78994 ай бұрын
I’ll get Superblast 2 any day.
@johnsonch72924 ай бұрын
SB 2
@ictstudentk79563 ай бұрын
@@wonkydonkey7899 great they drop 8th august in Bali. Will deff get them
@bigshotz12404 ай бұрын
What we wished the Nike turbo would be
@karls89894 ай бұрын
This vs the Hyperion max 2
@Manuel-9014 ай бұрын
Hi. A good comparison. Cheers.
@karls89894 ай бұрын
@@Manuel-901 i think its the yin and yang of shoes. Those of us who prefer that firm faster ride vs the softies who want to mush into their shoes.
@ShrutiSVyas4 ай бұрын
Love Meg's hoodie!!
@MiguelFlores-sp3hk4 ай бұрын
I’m really excited for these !! Hopefully when they release there will be some other color ways because he’s right I need something with a little more personality.
@RubiHammer2 ай бұрын
Thank you guys, for yet another great review. Almost a green light from me for the Mach X2, but not quite. My experience with the Mach X2, so far: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJS1f6aNq76hl9ksi=d0Mn3bKFiuc1pRBw
@gogolaklazlo3 ай бұрын
better than a RW promo, but still not a review
@thecaptainchas28204 ай бұрын
Real talk: is the Mach X 2 $50 *better* than the Mach 6? My Mach 6 made my Mach X 1 kind of superfluous to be honest.
@NickBritten4 ай бұрын
@@thecaptainchas2820 Different sort of shoe .., Mach 6 good for 5-10km runs and faster sessions; extra cushioning on Mach X2 makes them great for 10k, HMs & Marathons
@kmshultz4 ай бұрын
At $190 for a tippy, too-tall, meh-looking shoe with questionable heel security, I'll be passing on this one. Not detecting genuine enthusiasm from Thomas here, in spite of that green-light tease at the start. Thanks for the rundown, M&T.
@novawolverine4 ай бұрын
Seemed pretty enthusiastic to me
@kmshultz4 ай бұрын
@@novawolverine I mean, Thomas is an upbeat guy! That's why we like him. In this review, though, he mentioned the "one complaint" at the start, and, in spite of his positive remarks, more complaints trickled in. Meg had some too. This shoe is $190! There are tons of shoes out there now. It's good times for runners, so many options for our feet. :)
@peterlewisful3 ай бұрын
I’ll take a little heal lift for a comfortable fast day trainer.oddly enough I couldn’t take heal lift at all when I was young ,I would probably over tighten my shoes all the time but now as long as I don’t have an adverse affect it doesn’t bother me at all
@babyconieasenjo66662 ай бұрын
Is is suitable for hiking?
@BelieveintherunАй бұрын
No
@Silverwood0854 ай бұрын
Harsh upper man better have good socks
@jameswisniewski47413 ай бұрын
The first one was the perfect marathon training shoe. This seems to close to the rocket x and a race shoe.
@JTD334 ай бұрын
If you compare $190 to $180, it's not bad. If you compare $200 to $190, it's not bad... 😅
@wonkydonkey78994 ай бұрын
It’s like $200-something running shoe after tax. 😅
@14r5173 ай бұрын
I want a Mach X 2 vs Cloudmonster Hyper vs Endorphin Speed 4 video
@dreseat1233214 ай бұрын
I hate the pricing on these shoes. Good grief!!!!!!
@tono16654 ай бұрын
Superblast Rival🤔
@jimoconnor85974 ай бұрын
There is no rival to the Superblast...
@strongnerd46384 ай бұрын
There’s no doubt Hoka makes great running shoes. My 2 complaints… a) Hoka has some of the ugliest colorway. Who is making these selections?!?!….. 2) Why does “Hoka” branding have to be so big on the shoe. The shoe looks like a billboard. Can it be more subtle or make it smaller. It just makes the shoe uglier especially when the selection of colors are already bad….. again they make great shoes. Not knocking them for the performance, comfort, materials, etc…. Just design elements. I’ve heard several people say “yes, they’re ugly but so comfortable”. They’re like the crocs of the running shoe world.
@loljk_vid4 ай бұрын
Hoka is owned by the company which makes Uggs, so perhaps they are ugly by design. More power to them I say the uglier the better!
@TheAnimerunner4 ай бұрын
They started doing that because people didn't recognize their logo. The only branding that people recognize is their name, so that's what they're going with.
@strongnerd46384 ай бұрын
@@TheAnimerunner that’s fine but it still looks ugly. Now that they’re well known they can get a design to represent the name of Hoka like Nike with the check… adidas with the three stripes… etc. Having “HOKA” plastered on the side of the shoe in big bold letters mixed in with the ugly colorway doesn’t look good…. IMO of course. You might like it and if you do that’s great but the running/fitness community that I interact with don’t like the colorway or branding on the shoe. It’s one reason Sketchers has failed in sales with their running shoes. They have made some great running shoes…. But… butt…. 🍑…. They have ugly colorway and branding and that is why you will rarely see runners/athletes wearing them. Performance matters but you want to look good and feel good as well.
@strongnerd46384 ай бұрын
@@loljk_vid if that’s your flavor then that’s your flavor. Not going to yuck on your yum. You have your opinion and I have mine. If you like it then more power to you. It’s all love.
@loljk_vid4 ай бұрын
@@strongnerd4638 I suppose the real question is does anyone actually think they look cool when they are running? Especially if they are running their recovery/zone 2 milage?
@SpinFireOne3 ай бұрын
Inflation 😮
@MrVanre3 ай бұрын
hoka is way overpriced, costbase 15 $,haha, insane prices, buy the deckers stock.
@luisrauldefreitas4 ай бұрын
$190 LOL NB FuelCell Rebel v4 $140
@bigshotz12404 ай бұрын
Bro they are completely different shoes. The Mach x2 has nearly 12 mm more foam and a plate.
@luisrauldefreitas4 ай бұрын
@@bigshotz1240 not a race shoe but super trainer - shoes companies want u to buy a shoe for easy another one for not so easy another one slow tempo another one for fast tempo etc... don't fall for their money making scheme
@luisrauldefreitas4 ай бұрын
@@bigshotz1240 meb won boston on skechers... crappy shoes ever!
@jazzyjay45954 ай бұрын
Crazy that the running industry can’t get away from these plated shoes knowing that they’re causing a spike in lower leg stress fractures. There’s no reason to have a plate in a daily trained. Not a single good reason.