HOLD ON SUNSHINE Spartan Elite43 Rebuttal WOWSL

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[@bryandavidson6386]

This will probably be unpopular lol BUT... this is one of the few free to play games around that is reasonably playable. It's not perfect and could do with a tweak here and there (as could we all) but I'm not sure it's worth getting too upset about ( I believe this is called 'having first-world problems'). Where some content creators perhaps go wrong is taking it all a bit too seriously- not you Hive Hound btw- it's your pragmatism and laid back style that make your channel very watchable imo. Ultimately, if a game gets to be too important and causes stress, then you have just got to call it a day in my humble opinion. Likewise if folk find a content creator too much or too toxic for their taste, you just gotta unsubscribe. There's enough real drama in real life without needing to find anymore online. I'll shut up now but leave you with a thank you for your service Hive Hound 🖒

[@TheHiveHound]

thank you for your words, and well you said it, probably better than I could, it is just a game and it's very playable, there is no huge pay to win advantage, and don't get me wrong this wasn't drama hunting, I know spartan well and I know they will have a balanced discussion about it, Spartan is one of the few I'd openly discuss topics with, many dislike there views being challenged lol

[@tmseh]

I pretty much just grind it. I spend $40-$50 about every month to 6 weeks. Compared to War Thunder this is a bargain.

[@jordankibbee3441]

I had 170k damage and 7 kills in a loss on my Mogami, and in my Marlborough, I did 55k and won. It's just how it is. Skill base would be terrible. I actually would like the game to go little longer because if I had 2 more minutes, I probably would have won that particular game. But more often, it's fine. Nothing against spartan, but when I see him in a triple division in tier 4, I'm not impressed. Also, we have 9 tiers, and the player base is too small to do sbm. Also, no fix for bad players it's very frustrating but deal with. Great example. I only have a 54 win rate in standard, but in rank, it's 68 because 5 vs 5 3 vs 3 you have more impact. I like the game as is, but it does feel like 60 percent of the time I am predetermined to win or lose. So maybe take a break or go do rank it's 3 vs 3 now, and Spartan should on his own be able to win that

[@beautiful_muse]

As a fan of both Spartan and yourself, thank you for offering counter views to Spartans thoughts in a respectful manner. I think you both make valid points. I would definitely like to see spawns adjusted, as well as some of the maps are a bit to small and could use a bit more room in my opinion.

[@drphat]

Spartan viewers are a different breed of players ( still one of the best insult to call someone )

[@bigj285]

Only good reason to move spawns is so people get a chance to get into position which in turn would allow the game to play out a little more properly instead of people getting spotted and nuked 2 mins in. And my only idea of how to make games more competitive and fair for both sides is maybe turn rng down a bit and let good players punish the bad ones and the bad bad ones will do one of two things they will leave or they will get better and learn from their mistakes but if i get a perfectly aimed shot take half their health and they get away with it they in turn think they played ok and in reality they didn't play well at all. Nothing is more frustrating than halving someone when they should have died only to take them out in the next salvo or two or three it shouldn't be that way it promotes bad play imo

[@JayFoth]

Competitive games have highlighted how frustrating Standard could be if SBMM was implemented.. No one would want to play new/non-meta ships as it would affect their 'ranking', no one would want to die/push aggressively.. Basically, it would be a stalemate all the time.. Us older players need to stop being so passive in games as the 'potatoes' have a better chance of surviving if they aren't shot at all game..

[@teutoncross3817]

Instead of skill based, they should balance the team better based on the strength and performance of the ships. It’s not fun seeing a ton of objectively OP ships on the enemy team even if they’re sailed by potato’s.

[@JayFoth]

@@teutoncross3817 very true.. it's a shame when one team has 5 Radar while the other maybe has 1.. A slight balance that way would be a great QoL improvement

[@TomTheSurgen1]

Interesting. I have always though no auto aim would be good, but you make a good case as to why not

[@Fritzy2379]

Spartan is a tool who literally blames everyone else for everything..nothing is ever his own fault..he's the greatest everyone else sucks blah blah blah..he rarely has anything useful to say

[@conqueror3569]

take the spawns back 5 to 6 kilometers and then we will see what problems arise

[@SkyRaider-31]

Spawns on some maps do need adjustment but my major gripe is me spawning as a BB and my friendly DD being spawned behind me.

[@TheHiveHound]

yea spawn do need some finessing for sure

[@tacticangel]

1. Edit your audio. 2. You're not completely wrong. The first two or three minutes of most PC games is a positioning and spotting challenge. It accounts for most of the difference in the length of game. A good part of the rest is the existence of 33% more ships. 3. Dialing back auto-aim is a good idea.

[@TheHiveHound]

thank you for the audio advice, set up adjusted. and yes auto aim could do with a tone down, but removal would be awful and I'll die on that hill lol

[@MrDuke1010]

Spawns could do with a tweak, an in-game indicator showing if you have had a good or bad game. Increase in service cost if get below 500XP in t7 games and above. Ultimately nothing is going to change, WG pushing mobile players shows that are not interested in game quality its just numbers for them. Having a relaxed attitude helps enjoy the game.

[@kardy12]

Not sure how I came across the channel, but I play WoWs Blitz on mobile, and a lot of the complaints sound very familiar! 😂

[@TheHiveHound]

haha yea pc is the same, it's the very passionate playerbases we all have, while I found a blitz player, I'm genuinely curious on your thoughts of wows legends mobile, it's the console game ported to mobile basically, you heard anything about it?

[@kardy12]

@@TheHiveHound I’ve heard about it, though I’m on iOS devices so it isn’t available yet. One of the Blitz community contributors, Terry (his blitz channel is called Fun and Games with Terry) has started doing videos on Legends on the side as well - in fact he just did one today comparing ship markets on blitz and legends.

[@TheHiveHound]

@@kardy12 I'll have to check him out thank you

[@hunter7384]

What I would say for auto aim is figuring out a way that you can't shoot someone over a gigantic mountain. Same with shooting someone before they come around a corner. In my opinion that would help with longer games by letting people live longer and make the islands actual cover. The spawns definitely need to be moved a bit and that would also make the games last longer but not overly long then you can actually position a bit more making more ships viable.

[@iamsuzerain3987]

I find myself in agreement with you Hive. I play battleships a lot and haven't been insta-spotted in a LONG time (and I ain't in reverse). Potatoes gonna potato. I consider myself to be a decent enough player but sometimes I potato too. Really all CCs can do is make these videos and hope players will watch and improve...unfortunately many will not. Great upload...enjoyed watching and fair seas Captain👍

[@jkdeadman7696]

As far as gameplay goes i just think that carrier spotting and auto aim are a problem.you can play any pvp game and your gonna have bad or new players your gonna get stuck with and thats ok.good video hive!

[@Obsydiian]

My only issue with the argument of "if I wanted to play PC I would play PC" is that would be assuming most players who play our client have a PC to play the PC client on. I would argue that a lot of our playerbase either don't have a PC or simply don't want to get into PC due to them being almost a decade behind most of its playerbase. Whereas here, there are only a handful of years behind if they're brand new, and a console is way easier to maintain than a playable PC for WoWs. So what most people mean when they say they want matches to last longer on console is that they don't really like the engagement 30 seconds to a minute in battle. They like and want that initial period if getting into position and THEN engaging, which I can somewhat agree with. As far as the spawns go, there are definitely some maps where they're way too close together or too far forward. Other maps ; not so much. Everything else said here is pretty much to my thoughts on things as well.

[@TheHiveHound]

I'm of a similar mind, the spawn adjustment could be really helpful. in all fairness PC gaming isn't what it used to be a PC of equal power to a ps5/series x is about the same as a console (post bitcoin). PC has new players all the time, more so than console, I play both but generally enjoy console more (8 years on pc)

[@ilovedemocracyy]

Spawns are biggest problem right now and lot of potatoe players refuse to play specific flanks and will waste 10 minutes to reposotion to the other side of the map.

[@ace09x16]

Seriously why are you listening to someone so toxic he got booted out of cc program,Fine let’s move spawns but remove battleship concealment mod all this from someone who complains anytime someone has the audacity to shoot at him

[@SpartanElite43]

❤ figured you needed a hug

[@TheHiveHound]

Spartan isn't toxic, granted there was a spell of time where frustration got the better of Spartan, but that's not the person a knew way back when we started, and definitely not the person we know today. People can change

[@ace09x16]

@@SpartanElite43no just need toxic streamers like you to leave the game

[@SpartanElite43]

@@ace09x16 yes make the people who promote the game to more people than anyone else and have helped countless players who want to improve their gameplay leave the game... Who's more toxic here me or you?

[@ace09x16]

@@TheHiveHoundEverytime he’s on stream all he does is whine about getting shot at,supposed bad playerbase,it’s never his fault when he gets killed it’s Wargamings fault.Non stop complaining about getting stream sniped here’s a tip don’t stream wants all the benefits without the drawbacks.

[@DOBBYKP1]

Spawns need moving back we need time to get into position and we need better blue dd players

[@TheHiveHound]

I will spend the next few days making dd videos, let's show them how it's done

[@DOBBYKP1]

@TheHiveHound sounds good people need learn how to help there teams our dds die all the time 😎

[@TrentTube]

MMR system would solve everything about this game. The potatoes should play with the potatoes, and the groupings for teams shouldn't be insanely disparate. There are simple controls to make adjustments to how strict the system is...

[@teutoncross3817]

They should add a points system based on the ships “power”. Fighting against a team that has a Lenin, two JB, and an ochakov is doable but just isn’t fun.

[@TrentTube]

@@teutoncross3817 not a bad idea.

[@animegamesmoviesandotherst3037]

To me having a better AI in Player vs AI would help. I see AI as a bootcamp, but if faling at it. Its only show you how to move and fire. It should be teaching the basics like angling, something you find in Player vs Player fights, the basic of overmatch, teach players how to use the thier ship class better, add a test run like War Thunder, Get rid of the ship service fee, to me makes playing and learning the tier ships higher then 4 or 5 not worth it sometimes. I have has 180k games at tier 7 and still lose money, Make a maps bigger some have islands so close its becomes a navigation game, these maps are all from PC and it shows because of the islands being that close on PC they are not, The biggest thing is the the fun factor, this game is lacking in that at times, I like them add more game types. I mean look at it in both AI, and standard you have domanation, capture the base, and epicenter and even though each is named diffrent its all saying the same thing take something from the enemy. I do not see Rank, and Brawl as new games as most have caps,. They just have a weird add on like 3vs3, only guns in fights, Maybe an alien invasion they tried to do an operation highjump thing.In player vs player fights aliens could attack out of nowhere making both sides work as a team to win like war of the worlds, with the chances of it rising the higher go. Use the Godzilla license to have giant monsters show up, or just make thier own, maybe convoy protection, attack a strong hold, a story mode, anything to add more in.

[@TheHiveHound]

100% more modes, convoys, historic battles, and the random monsters sounds awesome