Great video. I’m planning on doing this to my 66 396 El Camino. This hit all the right issues I felt I would run into. I did read the comments. And I’m glad to hear I may not need the return fuel line. And the temp sensor should be on the intake. I’ll take that as lesson learned. I wish you had discussed the performance before and after. Also. When the motor was running and driving you should have cut the music. Otherwise great video. Thanks.
@Retroformance9 ай бұрын
Hey thanks! For sure the video wasn’t perfect, but we tried to show a good step by step. I guess thats what the comments are for! People chiming in on different ways to do things, hopefully it helps others as well. Hope your El Camino upgrade goes well!
@orangelicious33 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh, baby!! Nice job men!! Ben, your cinematic skills are great. Thanks
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete! We’ve had a lot of help over the months so its nice to see it getting better!
@n00blike Жыл бұрын
Great quick step by step, so many people don't show some of the steps.
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We tried to make it something people could follow easily.
@jeffreyrigged11 ай бұрын
I think folks just set at a different position in the 60s. The steering wheel is way closer to you is the big thing versus a newer car.
@callofgeorge Жыл бұрын
great video. well edited. went ahead and sub'd for some more. btw, you can just go "set static timing" and it'll lock the timing to whatever you set while on that screen. you'll wanna set to something you can read easily on the balancer.. i usually do multiple to be 100% across a few RPM ranges in case you have to adjust dwell/delay. and the other dude was right, it says on the product page for that pump - Fuel pressure is internally regulated to 58 psi eliminating the added expense and effort of purchasing and installing an external fuel pressure regulator - no separate return line is required because this module returns excess fuel right inside the tank!
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Wow good to know! Thanks for the insight and info. Hopefully your comment helps someone not spend the time running a return haha
@RustyPumpkinRanch Жыл бұрын
You know with that fuel pump module you don’t need a fuel return line, it has one built in. There is also an easier way to check base timing.
@TheSonicusa Жыл бұрын
You need to look at Holley efi tanks or tanks they have one for chevelle
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
When we called the tech before ordering this pump, we were told it needed a return line, maybe this wasn’t true then.
@thruitallauto2538 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroformanceI think ya should always run a return line keeps gas cooler, among other things
@jrod6611 ай бұрын
Have the same style unit in my nova. Self regulated no return line. Works absolutely perfect.
@jrod6611 ай бұрын
@thruitallauto2538 actually a return line heats the fuel. More line and friction from tank to motor back tank. One of the few reasons why most new LS motors have no return line
@russellridge86233 ай бұрын
If you’re going racing Holley is way to go. For daily or weekend driver Edelbrock Pro Flo 4 far superior. Easier. Constant tweaking not needed like Sniper. Can be tuned quite extensively but not like Holley. Pick depending upon how much you want to mess with it and type of driving.
@callofgeorge Жыл бұрын
"1-10" after the collector", you say? that's weird, because my instructions say 6-10" lol.. i feel like someone drilled the hole before double checking and y'all just went with it lol. it'll probably work just fine. if anything you won't get a good blend of all 4 tubes. also, that clamp thing that comes with the sniper is trash.. throw it away and never use it.
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention they never cleaned off the rust where they welded that O2 bung.
@toon_on_24s Жыл бұрын
Clean car
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We love it!
@wrenchmanhotrods1247 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they need a tube on the return line fitting , they are not sucking fuel out you are putting it in . ???
@kelleys81 Жыл бұрын
That looked like a Holley retrofit pump you installed which does not need a return as it should do all the work itself as far as pressure regulation.
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Interestingly, when we called Holley and asked about this pump before ordering, the tech told us we needed a return line to use with this system. And the instructions with the kit also mentioned needing to add a return line. 🤷🏽♂️
@kelleys81 Жыл бұрын
@@Retroformance Thats bananas which is different from what I was told. The pump I used is the 12-308 though so there may actually be a difference.
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
@@kelleys81 that is odd! I guess maybe both ways are right? 😂
@jeffreyrigged11 ай бұрын
@@Retroformance seems like i remember it could be run return less but wouldnt support certain engines fuel demands if done that way. I could be talking out my ass but seems like I remember reading that.
@russellridge86233 ай бұрын
Should’ve pressure washed that fuel tank before doing anything.
@christopherblair3667 Жыл бұрын
My left ear got all the info but the right feels a little left out. Your return line Does not need a tube going to the bottom of the tank.🤣 It just needs to make it to the tank. gravity will do the rest. Your temp sensor I would argue is in the wrong location. Too close to the exhaust. electronics do not like being that close to that much heat. You are trying measuring the water temp, not the exhaust port on the head. Why not put in on the intake on a water jacket plug? Otherwise good video.
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. And you are right! Honestly I can't remember why I put it in that location. This video was done on the side over a month and a half. Looking back, I can't remember. So far it hasn't been an issue.
@user-fk2dm5oy9f5 ай бұрын
Any problems with the Sniper off camera? I've seen other videos with people having problems with the sniper and having to return it to Holley for an exchange or they just end up putting a carburetor back on.
@Retroformance5 ай бұрын
Customer has had no complaints so far! Only thing we struggled with the car was some funky wiring separate from the Sniper. I think the car could use a new main harness, but most of the time we need to operate within the customer budget.
@jonhathaway2537 Жыл бұрын
nice video. fun little car too. that music has gotta go when that engine is singing its tune though..lol
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! And so true! We were hoping to get the car back this summer for some real microphones and raw noises!
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
Hack install with all that rubber hose & zip ties. Did you really not clean off the rust off the header when you welded the O2 sensor bung? Smh...
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
Ps... Nice fanny pack.
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
I’ll call you next time and have you make me a one piece hardline!
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks, holds the Tascam for Audio
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
@@Retroformance I've done 100's of hard lines for cars! Plus I do believe that much rubber hose is not legal if you ever head to a drag strip... Kinda shows why it's never a good idea to use that much rubber hose for fuel lines.
@ericdiaz3053 Жыл бұрын
15 degrees after or before tdc ?
@Retroformance Жыл бұрын
Before tdc
@jeffreyrigged11 ай бұрын
@@Retroformance is that the base timing for that engine in general or does holley have to be set that? Thats a confusion for me. Im doing a buick and going to add the cam driver to the stock hei. Stock it runs at 12 btdc. Ive got to read up on it more.
@stanleymorton29923 ай бұрын
All that work for what? You won't get any better gas mileage. All you 've done is increase the likelihood of more gremlins you'll have to haunt down when the system goes awry. And it will go awry. $2100 for system, not including installation. $3,000 down the drain. Stick with carb, save your hard earned money.