Hollow Knight's highest point to lowest point but without moving

this was actually easier than I thought (sorry the volume is quiet)
thanks DougDoug for the inspiration since the straight line is impossible

[@EaterOfGeese]

Paralyzed caves and cliffs speedrun

[@FacadeVT]

just wait, there's more (scheduled to release some time next week)

[@Wrathful_Banette]

I really like the detail near the exit of Crystal peak where you killed those two bugs and then proceeded to just go around them anyway

[@FacadeVT]

I went under by accident and realized i couldve just gone over them, but then i wanted soul just in case lol it’s not like i craved violence for those bugs specifically

[@finnvaneekelen7740]

​@@FacadeVTthis feels like your saying this when they bring you into court for double homocide

[@halcyon_exb]

@@FacadeVTit’s ok, I did crave violence for those two bugs specifically

[@FacadeVT]

Your honor, i may have been caught DUI (dashing under influence), but in my defense, it was funny

[@Artificer_]

​@@FacadeVT it's okay, i too craved violence for those two bugs specifically

[@NotSteel]

How parents say they walked to school

[@macmusial3644]

Nuh uh, they went from the Abyss to Hallownest's Crown both ways

[@notZabami]

uphill both ways I bet

[@samthebananacat3649]

Uphill both ways in the snow, I’d think

[@hollowknightenjoyer]

Uphill both ways in red snow, methinks

[@kazumi3817]

11:03 only the most calculated and intentional of gameplay in this household

[@droid-droidsson]

it was RNG setup for later, clearly

[@Imperial_Squid]

​@@droid-droidssonit's setup for a memory corruption glitch so we can finish the run on another save

[@tiagomoraes8838]

bro is so honored that he faced back in blue lake to pay respects, even tho it resulted in having to Cdash it all over again

[@Gefdragoon]

15:42 3 things are guaranteed in life: death, taxes, and Vengeful Spirit knockback

[@lokiTAShk]

This is such a cool challenge, now I want to make a TAS for it

[@FacadeVT]

I would love to see this!

[@enderdrane]

Make it a the lava is floor challenge as well. Adds that little extra spice to it. (Possible dyslexia moment btw)

[@richtyty9416]

Make it do Path of Pain/ Pain of Path

[@0XBlondie96X0]

I see the continued lack of silksong has really taken its toll

[@MarcaDelReyJPG]

Whenever I got a little tired of using my left hand for the joystick I tried to do this, I never did it because it was quite difficult for me to continue exploring that way, but I always believed it was possible.

[@FacadeVT]

pretty smart, I'm playing this on pc so I can just disable and switch hands when one gets tired too

[@someoneunidentified5712]

There's gonna be a speedrun category like this, just you wait.

[@FacadeVT]

I’m already making it 😎

[@venus_rivers]

what no silksong does to a community

[@swirlywhirlyfries]

Glad to know I’m not the only one who’s messed around with this concept, awesome to see someone actually complete it!

[@FacadeVT]

wait really? link your video, more recognition for cool challenges

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

I had this idea and wondered if it would be possible to beat the entire game without moving if you start with all abilities. It isn’t but it would be neat if someone did a no right or a no left run if that’s possible

[@FacadeVT]

@@SuperDestroyerFox good sir, i have completed the challenge and will (hopefully) releasing the video sometime soon

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@FacadeVT wait what it is actually possible

[@FacadeVT]

@@SuperDestroyerFox yessir, took me 3 streams, 13hrs and 47min, the strangest routing, and more copium than silksong itself for why the bosses were so hard but i'll be editing the vods this weekend so hopefully they can be finished sometime soon

[@Veralos]

Now the randomiser needs to add a setting that makes it so turning around is an ability you have to find.

[@michael_kek]

Ummm... Actually the lowest point is in the Birthplace. ☝🤓

[@FacadeVT]

Ummm aktually, ur right lol

[@SifArtorias]

I was about to say this too, but if you're not touching the movement controls at all then I guess you can't ddark into that area​@@FacadeVT

[@Murk_Matter]

​@@SifArtoriasand you dont in the first place

[@prestoncard6721]

@@SifArtorias There is no dive associated with entering birthplace, it's just a hole that opens

[@e2b265]

@@CatfishadeI think it just wasn’t open when they did it

[@DaviStofelEllerdeAndrade]

2:13 it only happens when we don't want.

[@Danman34683]

could have gone into birthplace, but that wouldnt have been much more difficult

[@FacadeVT]

Oh that’s true! I think it could be a little difficult since it’s very cramped, but it also might not

[@alias6676]

damn i actually didn't know you can walljump without directional keys lol

[@jarlyk]

This is such a fascinating restriction. It makes me wonder if it's possible to beat the whole game this way, if you start with movement abilities and everything that requires directional inputs to get (like dnail), but still need to get all the dreamers. I also wonder if wings is strictly necessary. Directionless Watcher Knights would probably be a lot of fun. Another variant that might be interesting is allowing only pressing down, since that opens up pogos and interactions (so putting dnail back in the route to actually pick up.) Could make a new fun ridiculous TAS gimmick; might want to start with dashmaster too, just to cut out a lot of the dead time between dashes. Are there any areas you've encountered that are just straight up impossible with these rules?

[@jarlyk]

Disallowing only left/right would also add in upslashes, which let you do cheeky things like upslash an enemy and dash under them while they're knocked in the air. Only works on some enemies, but it's pretty fun and would save a lot of time for a TAS, probably.

[@FacadeVT]

realistically, i think it’s impossible without wings Im pretty sure deepnest is impossible without wings, and maybe dream nail, but im not sure about other areas cause some places you straight up can’t get to HOWEVER, i would love to watch a TAS for this category (also streaming my attempts for the entire game)

[@Smoldragoncat]

I’d watch it, sounds entertaining

[@sans-mz9ly]

r/wehatedougdoug will have word of this in no time

[@charliezard64]

Wow, I’ve messed around with this idea some, but I’ve never realized the true potential of it!

[@zjterrablade]

Now go back up

[@FacadeVT]

Ya know what’s really funny? I hadnt thought of that lol

[@mair-chyan]

**maybe**, sharp shadow would be useful for such challenge since it increases distance of shade charged dash. I don’t see any practical applications since it’s not consistent, but if that guy from comments still want to do TAS of this it may work

[@FacadeVT]

with TAS, almost anything is possible sharp shadow still ain’t worth it, but it could be interesting to see

[@mair-chyan]

@@FacadeVT I'm not saying whether it's possible, but it could help shorten distances faster. I also think it adds flexibility in movement

[@matijamaksan4344]

It could overdash some holes that lead down. I think it would bring more trouble than help. Like in Path of Pain.

[@mair-chyan]

@@matijamaksan4344 maybe. but I think that for TAS this can either help or hinder. with TAS you can manage when you have shadow dash and when you don’t

[@HumanoidDerpling]

@@matijamaksan4344 Don't the top PoP speedrun times use Sharp Shadow though?

[@Scragui]

Huh never realized in the top there is the radiance and the bottom the birth place

[@danceswithowls]

Just tried this, it was fun! Was able to get into Fungal from aspid arena, then got into City through dive shortcut above city crest.

[@mirkinator2221]

How much of this was planned out? Like was each detail stressed over or was it just a general route and an assumption that you'll be cool enough to do it?

[@FacadeVT]

it’s was pretty much “I think I can do this” at every turn but clearly i couldn’t at some points in time, so none of it was planned out lol

[@user-xg8lj4tz8n]

@@FacadeVT bros him

[@mirkinator2221]

@@FacadeVT damn lmao. That’s really funny because half this run is “man that’s really cool I definitely itely wouldn’tve known that” And the other half is you being stuck outside forgotten crossroads stag for 5 minutes lmao

[@FacadeVT]

Yeah…I didn’t like how confusing crossroad was. A lot of the spacing was weird and some walls couldn’t be jumped off of 😑 but i made it eventually

[@Febr24]

You can go trough False Knight and reduce your suffering. Maybe you stay in room with Cornifer's note because you realise this. Anyway, I'm going to subscribe

[@FacadeVT]

Unfortunately, the path through false knight is blocked because of the infection. if it wasn’t, then i definitely would’ve gone that way

[@drolemem]

You could technically do the run on a save without any dreamers killed

[@bellangerdorian8286]

But that would also mean no wings since they trigger the infection, and that may be a run killer

[@Febr24]

@@bellangerdorian8286 you can go to hornet 2 without wings, just do a pogo skip. But of course, Moving without wings and without directional buttons will be difficult, definitely not worth a little shortcut

[@tkienjoyer]

"But Mario doesn't need to move, to move." - bismuth.

[@AlbySilly]

Is this gonna be a new meme speedrun category? Cuz I'm all for it

[@FacadeVT]

Im trying to route things so if you want to help, i shall welcome with much appreciation

[@AlbySilly]

@@FacadeVT Would you say trams and stags are allowed?

[@FacadeVT]

@@AlbySilly i personally would say no since they require the left input, but it's up to debate (btw, i did a speedrun for this challenge which should be released early next week)

[@AlbySilly]

@@FacadeVT I actually recorded an attempt trying a different route than this video earlier today, I'll try to finish editing it for tomorrow Edit: finished the editing already so I'll upload it once it's exported then head to bed

[@FacadeVT]

@@AlbySilly oh shoot nice! drop the link when it’s ready!

[@baileybob03]

This is so oddly satisfying and frustrating to watch at the same time 😂

[@njohn043]

I love DougDoug’s content and I love Hollow Knight. I did not expect to see a mix of the two.

[@yuukiritotrinh6567]

This needed to be promoted to become one speedrun category

[@churro2710]

It is 100% possible to make the jump to fungal wastes at 10:37. You just need to make sure you wall-jump off one of the ridges on the right, after that a double-jump and a dash will do the trick.

[@FacadeVT]

yeah, i figured this out on stream yesterday I forgot it was possible when i gave myself wings lol i wishi could remember things better

[@MatthewMorris6148]

This is kinda neat, as I’ve been trying to beat the game like this. I’ve given myself all charms and abilities, and just need to grab the dreamers. I’ve managed to get to Monomon, but got stuck trying to get out (I think I know how to do it now, but I need to re-defeat Uumuu.) Currently I’ve been working on reaching Herrah. Almost made it to the hot spring in Deepnest, but I got soft locked and had to quit out. Lurien shouldn’t be bad if I can just reach and defeat the Watcher Knights. I know I’ve unlocked the bridge there, don’t remember anything beyond that. The hard part will be if I want to beat the radiance. Might also see about trying Traitor Lord + White Palace + Birthplace before hand, make it more legit.

[@FacadeVT]

Well, im going to try and simply beat the hollow knight and then potentially make a speedrun route, any backseating is appreciated

[@MatthewMorris6148]

@@FacadeVTWell hey, if I figure out anything major, I’ll let you know.

[@FacadeVT]

@@MatthewMorris6148 much appreciated, i don't like shilling but I will be streaming this on thursday at 2pm CST on twitch

[@mkks4559]

MATTHEW!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

[@MatthewMorris6148]

@@mkks4559 I can’t tell if that’s an angry yell or an excited yell. Anyways, I’ve been around. Essentially, due to work I kept missing the uploads, forgot to comment, got discouraged to continue posting comments, and just stopped. I haven’t even been visiting the comment section, I’ve just been keeping an eye on the thumbnails. Sorry about that, I should’ve at least commented as much.

[@jpbird8432]

I love you did extra steps just pay repects to Quirrel.

[@FacadeVT]

absolutely, even in challenge runs we respect our man Quirrel

[@sp4cef0rc37]

I love the idea! Really the kind of challenge in a game that would only be found in a game like Hollow Kinght which has a huge fanbase who are waiting for Silksong for seven years. I guess most of the flukes were because of the dash length being different between shadow dash and regular dash, so it sometimes goes just a little too far or not far enough. But still you did it and that's pretty cool. What path were you thinking of by going through Fungal Wastes before giving up the jump? Left side City or Deepnest by using tram? (I'm assuming that since you used Cyclone Slash that did use the up button if you had to interact with something you would have since it still doesn't really make you move like left, right and down)

[@FacadeVT]

the path is under crossroads left of the aspid arena (the intended path into fungal wastes). the up was kept for interactions and for cyclone slash to fall faster

[@SrakenKraken]

it's actually amazing how universal the knight's moveset is now that i think about it

[@LeeLuvid]

Where's that one Comic that's just the knight picking up hobbies as he waits for hornet to come back from her adventures (Silksong)

[@Kesyuu]

Now go back up but with flower quest.

[@seanlovall4221]

Hmm, i need to learn how to do this so i can give my left thumb much deserved break

[@lillyflower7834]

I think this could be a cool and fun mechanical speedrun challenge like PoP speed runs, especially if charms are allowed, I also think down should be a valid input so you can pogo since it doesn't really effect movement anyway

[@FacadeVT]

i dont think pop is possible, there are a few sections where you need to go around floating “walls” so you need to change directions midair Other challenges could be interesting though

[@lillyflower7834]

@@FacadeVT I meant that it could be a cool speedrun category similar to the PoP speedrun

[@FacadeVT]

oh shoot, I accidentally deleted someone's comment, but the skin used in this video can be found here drive.google.com/file/d/15e3sSEAEW0OF1BEYuf04NepcN2uWoL2j/view

[@koopasuerte3773]

The patch of the vegetable

[@kingbob910-di7pv]

Now do it in true Doug Doug fashion with the minimum equipment

[@FacadeVT]

oh that sounds like a good idea!

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

Nice! Obligatory "no Birthplace?", but that sounds like some extra large PITA, very much excusable. I'd love to see if that too is possible though.

[@FacadeVT]

My other video where i do this backwards has it

[@kittenthesmol7373]

how the Dashmaster got to school:

[@lich-king2298]

Now do lowest to highest. its gotta be possible.

[@Toast-er012]

side effects of "No Silksong"

[@emanueleprincipe9667]

why the cyclone at the end? is it just to go faster or is there a reason? anyway fantastic video bro, gg

[@Insomne_Eldrian]

This community really needs Silksong already.

[@oogy749]

I tried the same thing a while back, except in reverse (starting at abyss floor and going up). Made it all the way to the top of crystal peak only to find that the transition to hallownest's crown (literally the last possible spot) is impossible. I planned to make a video on it but I gradually stopped playing the game before ever doing so.

[@FacadeVT]

wait 2 more days, 1pm cst, my attempt should be publishing

[@Joshuadoesthings]

I'll be waiting

[@FacadeVT]

@@Joshuadoesthings it's already out by now lol

[@avocado8116]

You can get even farther down with Kingsoul equipped.

[@efirst7006]

W vid bro

[@yuukiritotrinh6567]

Path of Annoyance

[@KaroxNightshade]

CDash on its way to fix all the problem rooms:

[@sacrificiallamb4089]

Now I need a TAS of this

[@EggZu_]

woah this video popped off, nice

[@FacadeVT]

It did, but i wasn’t actually expecting it to lol

[@monarchofrymden]

silksong still isn't out then i'm guessing

[@elrev_ctsos]

dont think we didnt notice the cut in the tram room in crossroads, you totally couldnt turn around in there and got stuck😭

[@FacadeVT]

are you taking about 1:35 ? if so, yea, I just needed to turn around but I didn't get stuck also, I did mention that it was terribly cut lol I know it's kinda bad

[@Idk-cz7tu]

Cool, very cool, now beat the game Pantheon ending doing that

[@FacadeVT]

just wait and see what’s been cooking 🙃

[@TheDavianSea]

You can go even lower in the abyss

[@squidbacon7397]

Great video! Now do Absolute Radiance like this 😃

[@jyxtheberzerking4824]

Team Cherry, please, release Silksong. The players don't have much longer before they lose what little sanity they have left. Look at how they suffer!

[@woff5]

woooo dougdoug mentiond

[@Thehollowknight..-jk3ik]

I wanna see a tas do this

[@artykeldeo]

dashmaster...

[@electric_ajax]

how many attempts did this take?

[@FacadeVT]

i think i had to reset rooms due to soft locks and not repositioning only about 6times

[@NunnyNugget]

Super Mario Run lookin ahh

[@gofigglo]

This feels like bloxorz idk why

[@FacadeVT]

wait, i get it, it does feel like that

[@timeless9534]

That’s not the lowest place though. The actual lowest place in Hallownest is the Birthplace.

[@himmyname]

Couldnt you have entered resting grounds via crystal peak to cut off all that time in crossroads? Or is it impossible

[@FacadeVT]

I think I could've, that route never even entered my mind lol

[@hole1274]

That's great, now do path of pain :>

[@Anonyomus_commenter]

I can do it in two inputs. Assuming you are using an Xbox controller, y and up arrow

[@Yetta-meta]

Now do it blindfolded

[@beefchopstick]

With your mouth

[@katanasteel]

Doesn't cyclone slash and great slash nail arts need a directional input....

[@FacadeVT]

technically no, i great slash is just holding the attack but if you only have cyclone slash, it will do it without needing to press any directions also 0:07

[@katanasteel]

@@FacadeVT I know it said it was a spliced run however you did a great slash in City and cyclone slash drops in the abyss... that seemed like you had multiple nail arts, which is why I got curious. unless you've used the debug mod to turn one or the other on and off at different times.

[@aidanhogan-thomas1797]

Now do path of pain 🙏🙏

[@-PalePoet-]

Absolute W +1 sub +♾️ aura

[@FacadeVT]

W viewer +1 heart +infinite swag

[@Rtificer]

Leftest point to rightest point no jumping pls

[@FacadeVT]

I dont think it’s possible, but a good brainstorm

[@Rtificer]

@@FacadeVT challenge accepted

[@Rtificer]

Nah it's totally impossible, I forgot you couldn't shriek pogo without being in the air Least jumps however . . .

[@jarlyk]

Completing the game jumpless is possible (for a TAS), but it uses a ridiculous range of glitches. The jumpless TAS is by Krythom if you're curious. Ironically, it would actually be easier on latest patch (since you can get noclip and godhome mms), but Krythom used a more interesting older patch with a ruleset where you actually still need to navigate all the rooms. King's Pass alone is a work of art to escape without any abilities and without jumping.

[@Alexey-qs6nr]

good. Now do it the other way around

[@wiltos972]

Same but from west to east or east to west?

[@hunterzilla9385]

Now do it without dashing

[@grubbsgaben4461]

6:34 ???

[@FacadeVT]

that part of the run spliced for convenience sake, I entered that room by accident and just needed to turn around so I cut that part out no nefarious schemes here especially with hollow knight (unless it's really obvious)

[@DaviStofelEllerdeAndrade]

17:56 wait... but this nail art needs to face up or down? 🤨

[@FacadeVT]

yes! I kept up since it functionally doesnt really do anything for movement (also mentioned in the beginning of the video)

[@cuberomer]

@@FacadeVT If you don't have great slash you can use cyclone slash without up or down

[@FacadeVT]

Oh really? I had no idea, this file did have all the slashes so i couldnt do it that way though

[@anirudhmore]

Nice. Now do it hitless.

[@yalkn2073]

What skin is that?

[@FacadeVT]

It’s a hololive skin made by Ta_wam on twitter that i helped make, you can visit his page to download it 😎

[@nikola1360]

cool, now do it hitless

[@RayWang-uv1mt]

Where birthplace

[@TatoCompostela]

erm, actually, that is not the deepest point of the game 🤓☝

[@henryst-1]

honestly impressive, though do feel insulted when you say the straight line is impossible (i made a video with the same idea 😅)

[@Cteklo7]

why don't you do pogo of spikes/enemies?

[@MrSpeedysam60]

you'd need to hold down, which is a directional input

[@Cteklo7]

@@MrSpeedysam60 it is directional input indeed, but it is not a movement :D

[@MrSpeedysam60]

@@Cteklo7 0:07

[@Znb602]

What No silksong do to a man

[@sauceman-dv3lf]

NUUUUUH YOU HAD MODDED CHARMS ON and you didnt credit the skin (mabye you made it sorry this comment kinda a joke)

[@sauceman-dv3lf]

Decent video

[@HumanoidDerpling]

But he didn't have modded charms? Don't know what you're talking about

[@sauceman-dv3lf]

@@HumanoidDerpling look closley at the nail swing its void it has to be the pale court one but you have to remember that this is a joke