Hollow Knight Vs. Ori and the Blind Forest: Review & Thoughts

[@Corvin_Ito]

Personally i think both games are pretty great for their own reasons, none of them are better than the other because both are amazing games. Sure some people wont like how challenging hollow knight can be, but different charm setups and abilities can make it easier for the player. Plus i find it really neat that some of your abilities in hollow knight are used for both combat and movement/platforming (the nail can hurt enemies but can also be used to bounce on spikes. the dive can damage fragile floors and anything trying to kill you. even your ability to dash can be used to fight with a specific charm on,) Hollow knight is really efficient and effective with its controls. I havent really looked at ori and the blind Forrest for a few years, but its still a really gorgeous looking game

[@Botaniman]

My brother age 10 took 107 hours to beat the Halow knight he’s still playing

[@memebigboi5330]

Its amazing at how big and beutifull it is and ive only seen playthrughs sorry for the spelling

[@NexTheForgettable]

I took 123 hours and am still playing

[@osobatalentu6944]

I took 164 hours and am still playing

[@osobatalentu6944]

@Callmecrackhead - well in my opinion only abs rad is imposible to dodge and also i have a lots of trys to beat second hornet

[@onyxstyx9552]

@Joe Banana If you're talking about hornet fight 1 then you lost and uninstalled to the second boss fight.......

[@deezy5225]

Just played Ori and the Blind Forest and it was so pretty.

[@jairusreinepacatang5257]

No

[@bowenyuan2228]

Jairus Reine Pacatang wdym

[@trzybeanosy2569]

Onioncreature: ori is much more story focused than hollow knight. Me: laughs in mossbag.

[@thomasray]

Lore and story are different

[@lindylou538]

@@thomasray yeah but the story is about the lore

[@thomasray]

@@lindylou538 I think of lore as the story of the world, whereas "story" is about the character we play as. In Hollow Knight, the story is about a little cute creature proving his intentions to Hornet, finding and fighting the Hollow Knight, and in some endings defeating the radiance and infection altogether. The massive lore behind it makes it more interesting, gives it flavor. It explains why we are who we are, how the kingdom fell apart, what we're made of, all that jazz. Whether or not you agree with everything above, you've gotta admit that both exploration and combat take priority in Hollow Knight, with a story present for people who care to look for it. This is supported by the sometimes non-linear and diverging paths different players may take, as well as the many optional bosses and areas that some people may never find. The story is flexible, changing based on how the player explores and what they're willing to fight. The game wants you to explore the world more than it wants you to experience a story. Unlike Ori. Ori has a very linear path, character deaths and character arcs. There are flashbacks to explain the villain's motives, and an emotional ending that explains itself. The combat is weak, the exploration is--like I said before--linear. You're there for the story, and the secrets are there to make that journey interesting. Another reason I think Ori is more story focused than Kollow Knight is the 10+ minute intro cutscenes. It doesn't drop you into a room with one enemy and one secret and say "play the game" like Hollow Knight does. It says "here, you are a leaf from a magical tree. Here's why you were happy, here's why you should be sad. Here's Naru, here's the great tree, and here's Ori, that's you. Something happened to the tree and you need to fix it." Intros/tutorials are important and game devs know that, resulting typically in very intentional areas that set an expectation for what the game's gonna be like for the next few hours. Just comparing the two shows the different intentions of the devs Ori is more story focused by a mile. Doesn't mean it's better, doesn't mean it's worse. Also, with ori, I feel like the movement itself takes first prize. Bash feels SO GOOD. Most of the upgrades are to expand your moveset. (Dash, bash, gliding, wall jump, etc...) the glorious movement is there for movement's sake and it feels AMAZING.

[@lindylou538]

@@thomasray yeah sure sorry

[@thomasray]

@@lindylou538 no, I'm sorry. I have a tendency to write WAY too much on these topics.

[@MichaelLopez-zq3un]

I played HK recently and am in the middle of my first playthrough of Ori right now and just cannot seem to get into to it. The loose controls contrast HK in a way that is not really appealing to me. I try to focus more on the visuals, story, and platforming aspects of the game but the movement and combat are just so severely lacking. However, it looks like Will of the Wisps has implemented some HK mechanics which may have addressed some of the gripes I have with the original game as it stands.

[@Ej.seago4916]

same

[@DingDongDozo]

Will of the Wisps has fixed literally every issue that Blind Forest had. Literally the best game I've ever played.

[@Itadakiman]

It is the exact opposite for me

[@shom924]

I rlly hate the combat in prison but it’s pretty good

[@cloudy772]

Random weeb Yeah ori 2 has a hell of a lot of problems. Still an A+ game but it’s not perfect. Also as a metroidvania it’s very lacking as the game is so linear.

[@MysteryKar]

How was Hollow Knight's true final boss too cryptic to find? You only need the awoken dream nail (literally just a few secrets and minibosses to get essence which the moth npc tells you where and how to collect anyway) and the voidheart, which is just another NPC you'll also probably find anyway, a platforming area that's really straight forward (it's not a maze or anything) that's 'hidden' inside a corpse that you're probably curious about since you first find it and literally has a shield appear around it if you hit it with the normal dream nail, and the way around it being the awoken dream nail is hinted at the moment you get it The game is a lot more cryptic than that most of the time

[@franklarry1815]

I agree finding the radiance is just natural progression through the game. No guides needed

[@alextheconfuddled8983]

*Seal of Binding Not shield

[@spriles]

This is the exact video I was looking for! Really excellent work! Subscribed.

[@CraneckScape]

Currently i am playing Ori and loving it, but Hollow Knight is on my list...

[@thomasray]

Ori is the best starter for "metroidvanias"

[@airplanefood3576]

@@thomasray I don't know about that. Neither of these is a good starter metroidvania. Hollow knight is hard for beginners and ori is not a real metroidvania. I would probably recommend starting with one of the metroid games. (Preferably zero mission or Super metroid.)

[@kirbyloq8622]

If you are not familiarized with the metroidvanias I don't recommend you hollow knight

[@memebigboi5330]

For me but only on the visual side since ive never plaeyd the game but have seen theorues and playthrughs i think that hollow knight is a darker game but that reunites the darknes into one entity but the other game goes a much lighter path and dosent have buzzaws unlike hollowknight with the many buzzsaws in the white palace

[@tissu525]

U can make portals with the dream nail so you don’t need to walk all the way after getting killed

[@cornbreadman3584]

Onioncreature: tries to say that ori has better music Me: laughs in Christopher Larkin

[@radu6772]

Laughs in hallowscript

[@joshuagleeson4776]

Gareth Coker is good, but Christopher Larkin is really on another level. His two Silksong OST samples have completely blown every soundtrack from Hollow Knight and both Ori games out of the water for me. I never, ever thought I would find myself hyped for a soundtrack, but of course Larkin had to go and prove me wrong.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@joshuagleeson4776 I still haven't listen to the silksong tracks;I want to wait for the actual game. I'm happy to hear so many positive things about it.

[@clummpylemming7620]

I played hollow knight and have just now started playing the new ori and I had to look something like this up because they are the both so similar.

[@user-yr7mf3fr3e]

Hey man! Nice video I really enjoyed watching it

[@aaronatkinson3050]

Hollow knight has a more darker tone than ori and ori has a more lighthearted and more bright and colorful and all around more pretty tone tone than hollow knight

[@aaronatkinson3050]

Great video both are great metroidvania titles but I will say I like hollow knight more because hollow knight was the one that had me hooked on metroidvania games

[@TheRealFFS]

Ori was fun to play, but let's be honest here, it doesn't hold a candle to HK. In general I think that Ori doesn't have all that much to offer when compared to some of the other 2D platformers. It's strongest asset are visuals, but that's about it (I must say I haven't played it in a while though). If you like platforming then you should try Celeste. If you like boss fights then go for HK or Cuphead. Note that all these games are much harder to beat though. So I guess one '+' for Ori would be that it is a more relaxing experience.

[@theme2349]

People who watch it for to see which one is better but just play both

[@elh.7726]

Hollow Knight's music and atmosphere just put it one step ahead of Ori for me...however, its difficulty is incredibly frustrating sometimes.

[@radu6772]

I honestly find ori more annoying, probably because you can't change the controls

[@memebigboi5330]

I see why because in the white palace its just buzzsaws and gaurds from what ive seen

[@yoan-georgiev]

I personally didn’t find it that hard except the fact that I died on massive moss charger

[@joshuagleeson4776]

I agree completely. Idk what it is about HK's soundtrack. The instrumentation is better in Ori, but Hollow Knight's soundtrack is still better for me.

[@alextheconfuddled8983]

@@yoan-georgiev h o w

[@yoan-georgiev]

I love hollow knight and a lot of people say it takes ages and that’s not a bad thing but it only takes ages if you want to collect everything you can beat the game in 5 hours

[@juanjfm]

Great review! Good job buddy!

[@cornbreadman3584]

WHY DO PEOPLE HATE ON HOLLOW KNIGHT BECAUSE OF ITS DIFFICULTY, JUST USE HORNETS WISE WORDS AND GIT GUD

[@_MegaMind_]

Difficulty should also be a factor in justifies a good game... Is the game TOO hard or something?

[@blueMJS]

I honestly didn't think the game was all that hard once I gotten use to it.. If you put a few hours into it and still find it TOO hard for yourself you just suck at platforming games. (the godmaster dlc is a severe level of difficulty) but the base game is fine imo.

[@_MegaMind_]

@@blueMJS on normal dif or hard?

[@blueMJS]

@@_MegaMind_ there isn't a normal or hard difficulty option, it's just all one

[@_MegaMind_]

@@blueMJS right, I was thinking will of the wisps

[@CrimsonJake]

More VS. videos? Yay!

[@agnieszkaragankiewicz8531]

9:03 ori is much more story focused then hollow knight Laughs im mossbag.

[@cornbreadman3584]

This guy needs to have a little talk with him

[@hubz900]

He literally said "ori is much more *story* focused than HK" Got your quote wrong...

[@cornbreadman3584]

hubz that’s the same thing

[@hubz900]

@@cornbreadman3584 not exactly, lore refers to worldbuilding, the history behind the world and some of its characters. It's the background in which the story takes place. On the other hand the story refers to the events that are currently happening in the game. So yes ori is more focused on story with ori's quest to restore the 3 elements, kuro, naru etc... while HK has a bigger focus on lore

[@matheusrodrigues7921]

@@cornbreadman3584 hubz is right. Hollow Knight is much more Lore focused than Ori. I would say that Ori has a better storyline while HK has the more interesting world and characters.

[@KingKabisi]

I beat hollow knight, beat radiance, first pantheon...not doing the rest and Im now playing ori

[@BlindGardener]

Great video!

[@FROSTB4NE]

Excellent comparison

[@thebulbamachine4789]

Hollow knight gang

[@aidan8583]

after 60 hours im 80% through the entire game and have gotten 2 endings in hollow knight

[@michaeld3740]

I love hollow knight I've sunk in 40 hours and not even halfway through but I'm trying 112% it I started ori and it's kinda confusing for me because it's kinda vague on what to do or where to go but so is hollow knight. People who think hollow knight is too hard just keep playing through the more charms you get the easier it gets

[@alextheconfuddled8983]

Everyone please SHUT UP just play both they are both pog.

[@basit_manzoor_]

" One late game section is particularly brutal" Oh sounds like White palace/path of pain alright.

[@RafikiFreak]

I liked this, good job

[@franklarry1815]

I know a lot of people who quit HK for it being too difficult some even before reaching the first boss but personally only very specific sections were hard and even those were really fun. I haven't played Ori but I did try out the demo and was bored out of my mind.

[@baronfromthebaronies7628]

The very first time I played hollow knight I didn't make it to the first boss, probably because I had never really played any games before that and I was using a keyboard, which made it exponentially harder. Despite that, I couldn't help but be enthralled by the look of it, I absolutely adore the art style, so when I got a switch a couple months later it was one of the first games I got. I've spent almost 100 hours on it at this point, and I'm not even done with it yet. One of my all time favorite games, no question.

[@unaicasal3061]

you should give ori a try, the first 5 minutes are story and then its all great. You first said that some people quit hollow knight early game and then you say you quited ori early game, curious XD

[@NexTheForgettable]

My dad wants me to play Ori because I told him I’m at 111% percent Then I said I’ve been looking for the last mask shard for forever and can’t find. :,)

[@Corvin_Ito]

have you beaten the flower quest? ive heard that you get a mask shard from it

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

I’m kind off annoyed that I’m not liking Hollow knight as much as other people especially since games like castlevania(metroidvania games),super Metroid,Metroid prime,Bloodborne and dark souls are some of my all time favorites I have played it 4 times and each time I get far I just get bored and drop the game to play something else.

[@PoochieCollins]

It's okay to not like a particular game in a genre you usually like. There are lots of games out there. Sometimes the nuances make the difference.

[@chaumas8135]

I thought the same until I gave the game a second chance. it was the best decision I ever made.

[@chesspunk489]

I also hated hollow knight and I have beaten and loved around 20 different metroidvania games.

[@Wing__King]

I played both and I enjoy Ori much more.

[@AshenDust_]

1:20 he killed Myla!

[@stripedrajang3571]

He sure did. 😢

[@thomasray]

In my opinion, Ori is more fun to replay. The magic and immersion stays a little more than in Hollow Knight, which kinda just turns into "am I determined enough to practice bosses to beat the pantheons?" while losing the sense of exploration and emotional investment.

[@umeshkhanna]

great video bro.

[@shanggosteen9804]

Personally, I prefer hollow knight, in hollow knight there Is much much much more stuff to do than Ori. but Ori has more story aspects in it (hollow knight has it too but more hidden) and Ori is absolutely beautiful. Hollow knight is beautiful too but the designs are really simplistic. I just really enjoy the variety in hollow knight and the dlc's. But after playing Ori I still wanted more. but that's just my opinion

[@yungthunder2681]

Both of these games are pretty great. Hollow Knight has to take the crown however, simply because of value for money. Hollow Knight is a MUCH bigger game and costs less

[@greybushgames1]

Hollow knight is a great game except for the Soul Master/Soul Tyrant that boss is my worst enemy and I hate him...I must’ve died over 50 times and spent a total of 6 hours 3 hours over 2 days before I beat the Soul Tyrant...The Soul Master is a weaker version and took me 1 1/2 hours of dying constantly...Like I said great game and definitely gives you a good challenge... I haven’t played Ori yet I’ve been thinking of buying it and just might now that I’ve seen this...

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Lol. NKG took me almost as much time as Soul tyrant for you. Soul Tyrant took me about two hours, and soul master was a like a fourth try for me.

[@forkgodsdescendant2503]

If you finished the game at this point. I think you absolutely hated Radiance and Absolute Radiance.

[@HyborianAge]

I love your intentional awkwardness. That was intentional right?

[@PoochieCollins]

😂

[@richardwhite3521]

I love the narration. Hopefully the humor was intentional.

[@mharouny1]

Ori is NOT 7 hours. At least it wasn't when i played it on xbox one

[@matheusrodrigues7921]

Really? Did you die a lot or something? Cause it was like, 8 hours, maybe 9 with the DLC. (Just to be clear I'm not saying the game is bad since I love it almost as much as Hollow knight)

[@BenTMCB]

Nice vid bro! Just try and sound more excited, because you don't really sound that interested in your topics, but other than that, you deserve way more subs!

[@Gabe-wk6zi]

Hollow knight all day

[@SanOcelotl]

Hollow Knight is the Dark Souls of the metro-vania games

[@PasCone103Z]

That's actually accurate.

[@lindylou538]

Yeah really accurate

[@franklarry1815]

@Joe Banana there are 41 bosses in HK if the third one really tripped you up then that definitely isn't a game you should play because you will find it extremely frustrating.

[@alextheconfuddled8983]

@Joe Banana Which third boss? Theres like a million orders in which you can fight them

[@airplanefood3576]

@@alextheconfuddled8983 Third boss is either hornet or brooding maluke.(Unless he is sequence breaking, which I doubt) Both bosses are pretty easy and not really any challenge compared to most of the game

[@radu6772]

I highly, HIGHLY recommend you play hollow knight, play it please it's the best game I've ever played alongside minecraft. Do me, the devs, and especially yourself a favour and buy it. Hollow knight is better than ori imo

[@weepwoop8508]

Toxic.

[@radu6772]

@@weepwoop8508 you're right, i should change that to say "in my opinion" i don't wanna look like an asshole

[@chesspunk489]

Hollowknight was the most disappointing game I have ever played.

[@radu6772]

@@chesspunk489 doesn't seem so to me but ok

[@lacknolan5089]

I prefer HK, Ori is also good.

[@Oyundaryus]

i finished both ori game 100 percent but i started hallow knigh it was like dark souls i deleted...

[@bettyswallocks116]

Why

[@alexaltman8106]

What wrong with a game being similar (it really isn’t that similar) to dark souls?

[@jAcK00p7]

Ori and the blind forest isn't worth $10 it it's sold for $33.

[@Lofuuzi]

why r u look so shy in video

[@shimmerngspirit]

Ori was so frustrating I deleted it.

[@josuejarrin7223]

I hate the progression system in HK, you go in crossroads, and get vengeful spirit, snd then you are just like sent out there, without any guide, any clear path, etc

[@airplanefood3576]

Thats intentional. Its called a metroidvania. Ori is not really a real metroidvania as its too linear. This is not bad but they are simply different genres.

[@Snozfoolery]

I absolutely love both games, but i've honestly always like the Ori games better, it just clicked better with me

[@TheZoMbIeGoD777]

Fuck HollowKnight to hard! Hell Yeah for Ori and the Blind Forest because it's so much easier.

[@thecoronavirus1819]

You will never know What this comment was about.

[@Gabe-wk6zi]

Have you played HK?

[@thecoronavirus1819]

@@Gabe-wk6zi Yes.

[@thecoronavirus1819]

@@Gabe-wk6zi I don’t even remember making this comment lmao, just ignore it.

[@thecoronavirus1819]

Forget it, im just gonna edit this Lol.

[@AvalbusRagnell]

So, who the hell won???

[@jz2187]

Personally I can't get in to Hollow Kinight, I find it super repetitive.

[@cloudy772]

Kuba Buba Well I can’t speak for everyone but I feel that hollow knight is one of the least repetitive games I’ve ever played. Your constantly getting new enemies in almost every room and there is just so much to do with no filler. But I love hearing different opinions so why did you find it repetitive?

[@radu6772]

*w h a t*

[@bennyrosso]

Really not repetitive

[@ALEVISION.]

How?- you have so many areas and different enemies its like one of the least repetitive games. Its super fun

[@chaumas8135]

Wtf

[@mlkpistola603]

Ori wins,ori is best and have best graphics than hollow knight

[@Baukereg]

Hit boxes are more obvious in Hollow Knight though, with Ori being more trial and error. Ori is hardly a full fledged metroidvania, with a very linear path and exploring/backtracking completely optional to finish the game. Content and design wise Hollow Knight dwarfes Ori. But I love both games. Will of the Wisps and Silksong are day one purchases.

[@tricoolaz7188]

English yes

[@mlkpistola603]

@@Baukereg i don't speak english,i am brazillian

[@darkmaster7699]

Nope. Hollow knight's faaaaaar better

[@radu6772]

Hollow knight is better, ori is better at graphics and graphics only, hollow knight is too good