Without Identity Politics, There Was Nothing Left

Hollywood is getting woke to the fact that the audience doesn't like woke writing. They tried to remove it from these projects mid-production, which just exposed how little they had left.
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[@matts6607]

I want to personally thank Hollywood for keeping my money in my pocket.

[@captainalex157]

seriously! The amount of money i saved by not going to the cinema must be in the hundreds!

[@SEKreiver]

I've built up a nice nest egg these past 10yrs. Thanks, Hollywood!

[@robbythecuban]

They made it way too easy.

[@MatthewMoreau]

I saved more times and I’m getting a new debit card on the 1st of April.

[@WhiteDragon689]

I will say to my grandkids... ehhhh listen up sunny boy, I remember back in the day when I would go to the movies. Grandpa... what is that? LOL

[@NOYFB982]

Even if woke is left behind, the good and experienced writers are gone. Will take awhile to get them back, if ever. Writers might decide it’s better to work elsewhere forever.

[@WhiteDragon689]

It would appear the Hollywood is dead and wokeshittery killed it, they just have not noticed. Look at how popular the Oscars were.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Not true at all

[@jflack6]

Yep! And to get a lot of fans back, there needs to be a sincere apology and acknowledgement that they fd up.

[@gregowen2022]

I’m really hoping we see a movement similar to the games industry. Big names left their giant companies to form small ones like Obsidian to make their passion projects. Now owned by Xbox, we’ll see how it goes.

[@themanofshadows]

If the good veteran writers are gone, then new upcoming talented writers must take their place.

[@danhillenburg4487]

Anecdotally, I can tell wokeness is almost over because my acquaintances that were defending things like preferred pronouns not even a year ago are now starting to pretend they always thought all of it was dumb and are even unironically starting to say things like "put a chick in it and make her gay!" Oblivious people are starting to pick up that it's no longer fashionable to be woke.

[@gregowen2022]

The lack of defense for The Marvels was a really shocking sign that it’s the beginning of the end. Where news outlets used to defend this stuff to the death, they are admitting that, yeah, it’s not a good movie. I think their industry is waking up, too. Seeing Buzzfeed, Vice, and others go under has to be shaking some of them out of the patterns they developed.

[@CopperRavenProductions]

I hate people like that because they are sheeple. They go in the direction they think is the new norm to fit some self righteous agenda. The moment they see a turn, they act as if they never saod or felt that way. These are the same kind of people that burned suppossed witches back in the day. It is all the samething, just a different generation. Incapable of have their own cognative rartionale thoughts

[@lindendrache8998]

Really? The fad is over? I can't believe that (yet). But I hope so. The other thing is, I kinda fear what the next fad will be....

[@DSVlad]

Revolution is a spectator's sport. The majority will sit in the stands and watch the factions fight. At the end they will choose the side that's winning.

[@jillthinksimabreakfasttaco4904]

I have noticed the lack of "he/him", "she/her" pronouns in email signatures lately lol

[@realistic_delinquent]

One thing is certain: Hollywood will learn the wrong lesson.

[@michaeldavis2001]

Yes. It's interesting that the lessen that took from Catwoman and Supergirl (two sh*t-stained movies) was that WE didn't want female superheroes, NOT to make better movies (yet Steel taught them nothing). They learned from Nolan's Batman trilogy that WE liked gritty, grounded heroes, so we got Zach Snyder's AWFUL take on 'Superman' (the polar OPPOSITE of Batman. They never learn because they are stupid. That's why they insult their fans, the equivalent of opening a bakery store, smearing the display windows with crap and hanging a shingle with the words 'F8CK OFF!' in big red letters.

[@mightquinnable]

In the worst way

[@kinabalucat]

Leave Hollywood. Get your entertainment elsewhere or just back to old movies

[@JLCL01]

@@michaeldavis2001 IDK if intentional but the example reminded me of the infamous Amy's Baking Company resturant lol.

[@hibikuokudan]

You're absolutely correct. I'm a woman, and I don't care for the current "cold, emotionless, girlboss" strong girl archetype. Male characters are allowed to have multiple dimensions. They're allowed to fail, to grow and learn from that failure. They're allowed to use traditionally feminine qualities like mercy and empathy to solve problems. Why can't female characters do the same? Seeing a woman who never fails, who never struggles, who doesn't need to grow, isn't inspiring. It tells girls that anything less isnt worthy of being a hero, that unless you're already perfect, you can't be a hero.

[@blueflare3848]

It’s fascinating to me. Male characters went through the same thing. When writing a cool or strong male character, they were written to be cold, uncaring, and apathetic. Over time the priorities changed. People wanted more complex and relatable characters, so we started getting characters with more depth. Now we’re seeing the same exact thing with female characters. Hollywood thinks that being emotionless and rude is the same as being strong.

[@sumomaster5585]

Well even if they fail in fantasy land, IRL every sweet caring mom is a hero : )

[@AmidalaEmma]

Yeah. I love women with heart!

[@themostbestwizard]

What really gets me about these "girl boss" characters is that none of them are even likable.

[@613harbinger316]

That's because they're the female versions of the caricatures of sexist men from the perspectives of generations of toxic feminism. Since so much of current feminism is based solely on power (they claim to want freedom for women, but won't allow women the choice to choose other than what they think is "empowering"), and so little focused on what makes a woman (specifically) powerful, they just default to the over-confident, swaggering, male jerk. Victims of their own hypocritical sexism. [edit: Like they want to have a female version of Tony Stark (genius, obnoxious, witty, but somehow likeable) but don't have the balls to humble her, make her low, teach her that she needs help from others (especially from a male version of Pepper Pots), or that she doesn't know everything. Stark's character arc is what made him so compelling and relatable. Feminists are too full of themselves and too unwilling to risk being wrong or humbled and end up looking weak - which ironically makes them look _really_ weak with their desperate attempts to girl-boss their characters and blame everyone else for their failures.]

[@JM-qn3tf]

Because girl bosses are not likable

[@lillithemew3587]

One of the few girl bosses I find likeable is Toph from avatar and Alurra from Voltron

[@user-os7ec4dm8x]

Because the writers aren't likeable, they are clueless and no doubt have few real friends in life.

[@princesserika9899]

​@@JM-qn3tf False. Girl bosses can BE likeable, if the writing is proper and consistent. 😃

[@DubcityTX]

At least this KZbinr calls it like it is. Way too many KZbinrs act like Hollywood is experiencing a natural creative drought like bad weather. Too many scared people.

[@PumpkinSwag]

So many people jump through hoops and do mental gymnastics just to not admit that a big reason studios like Disney are failing is because they try too hard to cater to a hyper-progessive audience that doesn't make up most of their viewing audience and never will. It'd be so hilarious if it wasn't so frustrating.

[@PumpkinSwag]

So they have to make excuses like "superhero fatigue," "the pandemic" (even after the lockdown ended), or "streaming" (even though streaming was popular before that 2020s and hasn't stopped movies before or now from doing well in theaters, such as last year's Barbie).

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Bruh

[@Raggamuffinz917]

​@@PumpkinSwagI hated the super hero fatigue bs, I have never believed that people were overall tired of those types of movies. We were tired of these clowns taking great characters and storylines and changed them arbitrarily to suit their agendas.

[@AlphariusandOmegon]

Oh dude these people act like all of these artificial forced new values being crammed down peoples throats by this new woke religion is some organic force of nature, nobody saw the backlash coming and no one could stop it because its just an organic swing in cultural values caused by (checks notes climate change). All of this is forced from the top down and 2008 was the year it all became incredibly mainstream, right around the time they needed to distract us from the fact that our representatives in DC and our largest financial institutions have been robbing us blind and playing high stakes roullette with our money, weird that.

[@akumaking1]

Hellyweird needs to stay disbanded and discontinued!

[@vidmikes]

“Hellyweird” is just as lazy and stupid as the writing in Hollywood itself.

[@MeltonCrest]

@@vidmikesOkay then let's call California what it is, Epstein Island - The Definitive Edition.

[@nicholas-dv1mg]

Isn't hollywood a place in Los Angeles?

[@JohnnySplendid]

@@vidmikes Yeah well these are the kind of people who still watch KZbin reactionaries whining about "wokeness" or whatever

[@LukeTheBoss7]

All i hear is "waahhh there are minorities and women on screen and that upsets me"

[@ttrev007]

the sad thing is that they could have had their female hero's, they just f'ed it up with these unlikeable nasty women. Their are so many great female characters, like she-hulk, in the comics she is great but is nothing like what we got in that show.

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Funny how they make unlikeable characters and think they're likeable. The whole point to writing a Mary Sue is to present a much better version of you.

[@fakeplaystore7991]

The She-Hulk comics have a very niche audience. She-Hulk fails like the rest.

[@gregowen2022]

She-Hulk is such a disappointment because up until it came out, I was hearing how it was so funny and cheeky, kind of Deadpool humor, like it was going to be so fun. And then the show happened.

[@DSVlad]

The idea the writers have of 'strong women' is completely antithetical to the actual strong women the audience enjoyed rooting for.

[@613harbinger316]

@@gregowen2022 Apparently She-Hulk got woke-ified in the comics before the show came out, so it was kind of doomed before it got to the starting gate. This era will very likely be looked back upon with a sad tone of "what could have been" (I already do that, thinking of all the great franchises from my childhood and formative years that have been sacrificed for the glory of the woke god.)

[@AustinCDavis]

The term DEI should be shortened to just DE because people are actively excluded based on race, sex, etc.

[@MultiIhatethis]

"Inclusion" only means inclusion for the correct types of people.

[@yohaneslay8109]

DEI = destroy entertainment industry

[@Wolffman109]

We can probably drop the "E", too, because things are DEFINITELY not equal.

[@tomspiegel5322]

We can get rid of the 'D' as well, since they only want people with the exact same views.

[@JohnnySplendid]

How much power do you think DEI officers actually have? Do you genuinely believe it's anything other than a symbolic position?

[@jazwilly85]

Thank you Greg, I have recently adopted your policy of "Not Finishing or not watching things that suck"

[@ahabwolf7580]

Likewise. Tried out "Bodies" on Netflix and gave up after one episode. Not that it was all that bad, I just couldn't see myself watching the rest of it without being really bored.

[@gregowen2022]

I’m glad! I had to do it last night. I tried that game Sable for research on a Sweet Baby summary video (they say they worked on it). I can’t even blame them for that game, though. I gave it an hour and a half and it suuuuuucked. Too bad, too, because it’s a neat idea for a game

[@complexpixel5297]

I've always had this policy 🤣

[@JohnnySplendid]

lmao you needed another person to tell you that you don't have to watch things you don't enjoy? Internet reactionaries have the smoothest brains.

[@JohnnySplendid]

@@gregowen2022 huh that's weird because they also worked on objectively phenomenal games like Alan Wake II and God of War: Ragnarok. Where's your 40 minute video about how those games are "too woke" or whatever?

[@Ironica82]

The big issue is that they tried to shove "strong female" characters into a genre that is dominated by male watchers. It would be the same as if a group of men decided to make romantic comedies more focus on getting the male audience to show up. Comic movies are more geared towards men while romantic comedies are more geared towards women. It doesn't mean that you can have a macho man in a romantic movie or a strong female in a comic movie (e.g. Black Widow, Wanda (I actually liked Wandavision)), just that you need to remember who your core audience is. Also, personality is usually missing from the "strong female" types besides being strong and sticking it to the man.

[@gregowen2022]

Agreed, it’s so weird how they have truckloads of data on who watches their movies, and then decided to cater to an audience that pretty much only exists online. I thought we were living in the dat driven algorithm age, but these movies seem to be made for the wrong crowd on purpose, lol

[@Patterner]

as the sterotypical Old White Man i never had problems with real Strong Female characters. there were plenty. but they were not Perfect. i don't need to be represented. i need good stories with good characters. and as a Sci Fi fan those characters don't have to be human. i can emphasize with some aliens more than Ray or Cpt Marvel.

[@Ironica82]

@@Patterner I'm sure you shall agree with me that Sarah Conner and Ripley are the two best examples of strong female characters in an action movie done right. Even in the MCU, in Winter Soldier, the whole bridge scene when Black Widow was fighting Bucky, they did that how it should be done due to the fact that she had to use her intellect to fight instead of trying to beat him in a fist fight (and even when she physically fought him, it did nothing to him).

[@nicholas-dv1mg]

"It doesn't mean that you can have a macho man" can't* notify me if/when you fix it and I will delete this comment

[@Ironica82]

@@nicholas-dv1mg Let my mistake stay. I like to show that I don't have perfect spelling :).

[@fjpoggemann]

Hollywood, and especially Disney, has destroyed all trust in modern movies. I watched the original Star Wars in the theater as a little boy in 1977. I watched every other episode of Star Wars in the theater when they came out. I watched every installment of Indiana Jones in the theater. I took my wife to see Lion King (animated) in the theater when we were dating. I had a large collection of Iron Man comics from the 1980s. And now, because everything Disney touches is such garbage, I just stopped going to the theater to see anything they made, financed, or influenced.

[@DSVlad]

I started noticing propagandistic aspects in everyday entertainment in my early 20's and since then have stopped watching pretty much all new releases. Unless I hear amazing things about it, I won't even give new stuff a chance. There's plenty of older material I can fall back on, most of which was actually made for entertainment purposes. It's gotten so out of hand in the last 10-20 years it's unbelievable, but with viewership plummeting they might just be forced to adapt. The actors choosing not to rant about politics at the most recent oscars has me optimistic they'll learn preaching isn't their forte.

[@tb7771]

53 here and the same. I axed Disney after they fired Gina. Sick of their and hollyweird's woke garbage.

[@fjpoggemann]

@@DSVlad This is exactly my own acid test for going to the theater: "Are there a lot of people saying to go see it?" In the last five years, I have seen about five or six movies: Maverick, Ford v. Ferrari, Dune 1 and 2, and, unfortunately, Barbie (got pressured into that one with friends). It is my goal to never pay someone to see their political propaganda.

[@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove]

The fervor for DEI in stories, comes from DEI in hiring. People have been hired and promoted not because of their talent or merit, but because of their qualities like skin color, ethnicity, gender, and sexual behavior. When you hire people with less talent, they produce less success.

[@DavidWRice-vn5ei]

One thing is certain. Hollywood will learn the wrong lesson.

[@stevet260]

Guarantee. They’re a bunch of lost fools

[@christophergillette7167]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they concluded that their fan-baiting was accurate all along, and artificially *limiting* representation, believing it’s the only way to make money. When ill-advised strategies explode in someone’s face, it can backfire and lead to the opposite of what they wanted.

[@the1HLT]

Criminally underrated channel. And that comes from someone that’s sick to death of the culture war.

[@draketheduelist]

Get comfortable. This pansy-ass passive-aggressive cold war that will never go hot because the aggressors don't have the nuts for it could rival the Hundred Years War in duration.

[@gregowen2022]

Thank you so much!

[@JohnnySplendid]

Buddy if you're still watching videos crying about "wokeness" then you are not sick of the culture war

[@tomcoop9750]

Imagine if a man made a shirt that read, “The force is male”

[@mfo6892]

I would buy that lol

[@casualcausalityy]

My "They Forced Us Female" t-shirt was not well received at the elementary school Drag Show

[@crakhaed]

Even worse, my idea, the female is forced (diversity) 😂

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

I am ready for ideas... my printing press is lighting up, right now! How do you like this one? My lightsaber is bigger than yours.

[@613harbinger316]

They probably wouldn't get the joke and just assume it perpetuated rape culture or some other bull$hit they've made up to support their worthless theories and excuses.

[@MumRah]

I really think these "strong female characters" and the like are written so poorly because that's how they believe male characters are written but they either never actually read the thing (comics for example) or they are not smart enough to understand what they are reading/watching.

[@DSVlad]

These are the people who think you have to look like a character to empathize with them, they're very shallow. I suspect most of them are manly women who didn't care for the originals but instead wanted to "fix" franchises they didn't see themselves in.

[@MumRah]

@DSVlad didn't care for them, hate them and/or never heard of them

[@crakhaed]

@@DSVlad hehe, manly women indeed

[@danielr5343]

Don't know where you got that idea. It's because equity is their ideology, i.e., equal results for all regardless of competence. It's extremely contrived; in the real world only a totalitarian culture can enforce equity, and in a fictional one you can only create equity if you write characters poorly.

[@MumRah]

@danielr5343 think about how those of that ideology describe straight white men. They say things like, "they only got what they have because of how they look and are just given everything even if they are incompetent and they go on about how arrogant and mean they are etc". They claim that men get praises for being jerks while women are called biotches. Then, look at the characters they write. Wooden jerks with no depth of character. Mary Sue's that are special and great just because they exist. They quite literally write these characters to be the very thing they hate for the reasons that they say they hate them. On top of that they are NOTHING like the characters they are ripping off. It's also possible that they are just incompetent. I think it's safe to say that they are sjws and activists regardless.

[@ThePiggiestOne]

Funny enough, ALL female led superhero films and series, up to Madame Web, had more male viewers than female viewers, so those article writers need to get some perspective.

[@zen_coco2658]

Fr i hate how companies in charge of the things we love, are so out of touch. Movies and videogames alike

[@HelloKittySGTC]

I dont think women know how to ingest media that hasn't been forced down their throat like cosmetic alteration. Look at female basketball teams, same thing. You don't need hormones to enjoy this stuff, it's just that women simply refuse to analyze their own behavior and reach.

[@JBfromFL]

Hollywood has proven that we don't need them. I no longer want to watch shows or even movies. We can go without. Thanks Hollywood!

[@Arander92]

Do we NEED Hollywood to make shows and movies?? Why not just make more movie studios in other cities??

[@user-rs8ul3lk2t]

@@Arander92 Make your own, learn from the mistakes of the past to grow yourself

[@s3.14dervision]

As a woman I am sick to death of this girl-boss sh*t! It's embarrassing, it's insulting and it's PAINFULLY boring! This feminist crap needs to stop!

[@thomasloney612]

I have been watching a few classic 80s shows, and I'm amazed to see how many people of all races and strong women are represented! How can this be? This was in the dark period, before people became woke! If you listen to the entertainment industry today, you'd believe that everything before the modern era was all about white, cis, heterosexual men and women only existed to be looked at, and all minorities were portrayed as slaves! Of course, this isn't the case. Instead we were sold a lie. We were sold a problem that didn't exist by the people whose job it is to solve said problem.

[@crazyralph6386]

You can instantly tell that the quality of writers were far superior back in the 70’s and 80’s. Most of them were older white dudes who either served in WW2 or Korea, and had a wealth of lifetime knowledge and experience. Nowadays, you’d be lucky to see a writer who’s even left the state of CA?

[@thomasloney612]

@@crazyralph6386 True. In the 50s through the 90s, writers were selected based on talent, and not politics. Not to say bad writers didn't make it in Hollywood, but there was no DEI hiring, and writers didn't look down at their own audiences.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Hollywood is completely out of touch and has lost all the talented writers. Even if they were around, they would still be held back by wokeness

[@lasercraft32]

Its honestly depressing. They have no good writers, and even when they _do_ get good writers the executives and corporate meddling would stifle their creativity.

[@ThePiggiestOne]

The editing in this video is hilarious. "But." "Matching the words." Sensational

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Sweet Baby Inc has been getting bad clout for the tactics they use to get their politics into video games

[@fakeplaystore7991]

And yet they are being defended, to the tune of 700k of taxpayers' money, by the Feds - all because a Brazilian guy made a Steam group. THAT is power, my friend. Cope and seethe all you want, THAT shows who can and who can't. And Sweet Baby Inc definitely CAN.

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

@@fakeplaystore7991 But you can't force the public to buy Sweet Baby inc. products and the rest will be history.

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

@@fakeplaystore7991 700k isn't even enough to cover legal bills when discrimination lawsuits hit the company.

[@user-zn5qm2yq9h]

​@@fakeplaystore7991Too bad SBI is getting absolutely roasted. They're not going to survive the backlash. Too much attention has been directed to SBI and their blackmailing tactics, not to mention their blatantly racist hiring practices...

[@JayDamaso78]

And they deserve it. Just one example, one of their employees Felix at Home said "abort all the Jews" and he's still employed there. It's a hate shop.

[@timbuktu8069]

Dial of Destiny *could* have worked IF they made Indiana Jones into Obi Wan Kenobi. The wise old man in the background helping the bright young hero.

[@user-zn5qm2yq9h]

Not with Phoebe Waller Bridge as Indy's paduwan. She's just not believable. This spaghetti armed waif that runs like a baby giraffe can beat up bad guys and take out Indy with one punch?!?!! Um, no.

[@timbuktu8069]

Well, yeah-that too.@@user-zn5qm2yq9h

[@nyetzdyec3391]

But... they did... didn't they? Isn't Indy just like Obi Wokenobi Show?

[@cybertramon0012]

Imagine if Dial of Destiny had started with an old contact in the government asking Indy to look into the dial because the bad guy was after it, and Indy gets Mutt and Short Round (working as detectives or tomb raiders) to help him out. That actually would’ve been cool.

[@MarklovesAngels]

Greg, this essay is a well-written home run, with themes raised ,examined and then conclusions drawn, again and again. I've been a fan of this channel for awhile. You were always providing decent content but the writing and editing are even more super now. Especially the former, with the right balance of seriousness and an appropriate dash of humor. I'm glad your hard work is reflective in these final pieces. Looking forward to future commentaries!

[@gregowen2022]

I appreciate the kind words so much! I’m hoping to polish things up more and then 2025 is our year

[@DasZombieProductions]

My wife and i had this same conversation... she thinks im wrong of course but she isnt going to any modern movie either so, no known intended audience

[@gregowen2022]

That’s the big point that I THINK the studios are waking up to. You can find a ton of people to SAY they agree with these social politics, but then when it comes time to financially support them, they have other things to do

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

Yea, I think most of the people who really agree Werth these politics are usually anti-capitalist too so... it all makes sense now😮

[@aprilmeowmeow]

hard to find people with ANY stance that isnt "fuck women" or "fuck men" in some form. Thank you for making content for people who are sick of it. ❤

[@fobosydeimos]

Yup. Traditional racism was like "I'm better than you that's why you need to stop existing". Moder racism is like "You're better than me, because in a meritocracy I always finish last and that makes me oppressed, but actually not, cuz I'm better than you cuz I'm a minority/woman and that makes me powerful, but I need you to stop existing so I can thrive. But I'm better than you".

[@tedflips1501]

Projection Olympics.

[@MrDj232]

More like "I'm better than you and that makes me a bad person. Take a treat and appreciate what a good little subhuman you are for dealing with my evil existence."

[@kingjoeblack5]

When did the meritocracy start?

[@timwhite5562]

"ironic"🤨 😅 Palpatine's expression along with it made it perfect.

[@digit861]

So many actresses sadly in interviews can't talk about their characters. The actress who played the villain in Obiwan said (simplifying but more or less) 'shes a strong female of color.' It's a problem if as actors and actresses all you can say is their skin color and sexuality basically. That's not a character.

[@NOYFB982]

Disney cannot afford a hacked up mess with Captain America 4. Each and every MCU movie best be great to bring fans back. They’re already gone for now. “Fool me once…”

[@kpsk8031]

They hired an inexperienced director for this movie, reshoots, reshoots, reshoots... Another "The Marvels" incoming.

[@fakeplaystore7991]

Disney can afford whatever they throw at the big screen, as long as Blackrock and others throw enough of your pension funds at them. Bob Iger doesn't care, he will shower on that office bathroom twice a day and no one can do jack shit.

[@gregowen2022]

I think it’s too late for Captain America 4. Definitely going to feel like The Marvels unless they start completely over, but that would likely put the cost of the movie at $400M

[@drewo.127]

@@kpsk8031 I would like to be a film director/writer/VFX artist just as much as the next guy. But even I wouldn’t feel comfortable being asked to spearhead a project as big and as overwhelming as a Marvel movie! Not even my personal favorite ones like Guardians of the Galaxy, or one of the Spider-Man movies, or even a Spider-Verse movie! Even if I already made my own project, or two or three! I’d be very concerned if a big studio signed me on to direct any part of a big franchise! (At least not until I can hire a lawyer or someone to help me with contracts and stuff!)

[@finalfantasy50]

look at the tv show, how can you still have any hope that ca4 will be good disney thinks that terrorists were the good guys

[@adamkalb1]

At least Dakota Johnson was honest enough with herself to not pretend like she stood by Madame Web when she knows she got tricked into it. This is just like what happened with Allegiant eight years ago! None of the actors who acted in Madame Web, also acted like they thought it would be a good movie when they knew they were paid to be in a bad film with a lot of green screen effects. They just wanted to forget the dumb experience and the stupid script they performed as quickly as possible. March 16, 2024, 10:15pm

[@NefariousKoel]

Glad you pointed out the communist-inspired methodology and justification that's so tied up with the DEI/Intersectional movement. Of course, the occasional one openly admits it, but there's also a lot of denial from the rest. Which is to be expected, such ideology requiring naivety and short-sightedness in believers.

[@darthmart6834]

What Hollywood needs is good writers that want to make good stories not push a message. Not everyone prescribed to the woke message Normal people have common sense and just want to be entertained. Thank you for making this have a great day.

[@mchammer5592]

I social justiced the hell out of that like button.

[@ashs5612]

Last year's biggest hit was Barbie, and it was a mediocre movie. So I am afraid Hollywood executives may take the wrong lesson from this. PS: Nutsa made a great video explaining why the Barbie movie is mediocre.

[@gregowen2022]

Nutsa’s video on that is underperforming on a criminal level!

[@KevinTumlinson]

My friend, I just wanted to encourage you-you've gotten REALLY good at this. I laughed out loud at least three times. And you always have such a positive message, even when you're offering some criticism. I like that you don't skew negative. Keep it up, sir.

[@gregowen2022]

Thank you so much for that encouragement!

[@pj3352]

Whats in the cup Greg. Whats in the cuuuuuup!

[@gregowen2022]

Yorkshire red today. MMMMMMMMM

[@Pantheragem]

BlackRock. Once you understand just how the world works under these giant asset managers, the world as it is currently is makes sense. We're too far into it for things to change.

[@mikael.wilhelm]

Yes, this isn't about Hollywood execs running their business into the ground because they want to, this is about the real money people forcing Hollywood execs to run their business into the ground. Unfortunately this planet is run by psychopaths that "own" everything (they actually stole it all through money printing). Until we fix that, nothing is going to change.

[@peterand]

Great point there about how wokeys saying people are sexist or racist for not liking a property, just proves there's nothing else there that were supposed to be liking

[@shalomander6470]

Bro saying “wokeys” is like injecting cringe into my veins

[@elusivemayfly7534]

Nothing a regular girl relates to like a protag based on that one lady at our job or HOA we try to avoid

[@lauramau2530]

I was thinking that exact thing- well not exactly but close. I was thinking of that really bad, incompetent manager that just wants to move up the corporate ladder. Ugh.

[@gabbodelaparrawrites]

They know they screw the pooch because they removed that Captain M v Biker scene from the movie. Not there anymore.

[@savioblanc]

Is that scene no longer there on Disney+?

[@gabbodelaparrawrites]

@@savioblancNot even on the DVD. They Willow it. I bought the DVD expressively to reference it and it was not there.

[@savioblanc]

@@gabbodelaparrawrites woah... wonder if this is globally or regionally done.

[@JimmyPageTV]

It was still in the movie when my roommate watched it last month so idk

[@rasmusrasmussen6119]

The real crazy thing is, that with the shit they have thrown against the wall, some of it should have stuck

[@DSVlad]

Many of us don't participate anymore, it doesn't appeal to us anymore, this art that wasn't born from us but is alien to us and will remain alien, that has nothing to do with our character and did not come from our soul.

[@omegaman2846]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion. I am actually hopeful for the future of entertainment. We have to get through this year obviously and 2025 will be a mixed bag with a clear effort to course correct but the ship will still be steering. By 2026, we will see a genuine shift that will show signs of progress. By the end of the 2020s, we’ll have more consistent quality. This is my prediction.

[@ChalkyLoki]

I like this view!

[@OhNoTheFace]

I mean I support you being hopeful, if nothing else. We hope you are right

[@gregowen2022]

I think you are right. Money talks, in the end, and it’s becoming very clear that the fake diversity isn’t selling tickets. Definitely still some projects in the pipeline, but I agree by 2026, the new stuff will start emerging.

[@drewo.127]

This is what I predict too! Things get worse before they get better, and I think we’ll be getting to the “better” sooner rather than later! (And when I say “better”, I mean they will focus more on stories and (hopefully) what the audience wants, while still allowing diversity and different perspectives, but NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF A GOOD STORY!)

[@trlspann]

Bro, when you desynced the audio during the madame web rant… solid gold!

[@NTNG13]

Hollywood doesn't want to recognize one simple fact: women aren't that interested in superheroes or science fiction stuff. The audience has always had a male predominance but they refuse to admit this because of their woke ideology. Recognizing men and women are different and have different tastes and can't just pretend to be each other is for them an admission of failiure.

[@AmidalaEmma]

I actually think that the problem is more just poor writing. There are so many tough, amazing female fighter type characters, films that made $$.

[@matthewledbetter7818]

Hey Greg! Great video! I had a topic idea that I don’t think anyone has done yet/in a while. “Which Streaming Services have the most Rewatchability?”

[@gregowen2022]

I think that’s an excellent video idea, especially coupled with the idea that making shows “binge worthy” is making them less rewatchable. Thanks for the tip!

[@chaz9808]

this woke stuff isnt going away for a long time too many normies that still dont understand whats going on

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

Facts. Its funny you should say that cause at least on my page...there's a normie right below you complaing about greg stopping "tHe GriFt"💀

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

"nOrmIe"

[@gregowen2022]

Unfortunately, it’s playing out in another industry. The Sweet Baby stuff is exposing how bad it is there, too. The only solution is to put it out in the light and let consumers make their choice. My fingers are crossed they’ll stop buying this crap

[@leomasters9510]

@@gregowen2022 Given how long games take to produce and how expensive they are, that ESG money is drying up and there is serious backlash against SBI (and all the other cohort companies who support this from the same founders) I think we're looking at 5 years before we see some great AAA games that aren't infected. Even if a new company started now, it would take that many years. Sadly. Movies can turn around faster I think.

[@xXeck]

It will once the money stops coming in. That’s about it

[@FrameandGame]

South Park said it best, crapping on Wokeness for attention is just as lazy and self-serving as Wokeness. It's literally every 3rd channel, some kind of fabricated outrage mill.

[@loke6664]

I think Hollywood have started to realize that what they been doing the last 5 years does not work at all. The problem is that they fired their competent people and replaced them with random people who checks in their DEI boxes and I don't think most of them have the talent to make a good normal movie. So I expect for the next few years we will see a lot more disaster when they try to have people without the experience and talent to make something good are trying to do what the people they fired for no good reason was doing. A few will probably learn from their mistakes and actually grow into someone who can make a good movie but most of them will have to be fired after the movie they worked on flop. I don't think every company will survive though, it will take minimum 3 years for this to happen and more likely 5 years. The worst sin they did wasn't to hire diverse people but that they forgot to actually hire in qualified people, skin color, gender and sexuality does not tells us anything about talent and experience at all. Somehow Hollywood decided that it was the message of a movie that made it good or bad but that isn't true. They would have gotten away with a lot more if their girlboss stories actually had good writing and likable protagonists. Then it would just have been one of those silly movie trends, like the 80s action heroes but when all of the movies are terrible, that just doesn't work. So we might have reached peak woke but we will see the after effects for years to come due to the hiring policies. That will lead to studio bosses getting fired and some companies either disappearing or getting bought up since while Disney still have their amusement parks to survive on, that is not the case with most other studios and constantly losing money just doesn't work. Sony at least does not have movies as their main cash cow so they might survive too if the Japanese owners feel like forking up the bill for a few more years of failure which isn't a given.

[@NefariousKoel]

Agreed, but part of it is based in established threat. The big wigs are terrified of being called bad people in public, and the sensationalist "ally" media, if they reverse the discriminatory checkbox decisions they fully bought into for years. The issues will, indeed, be around for awhile in some form. Either as a result of desperately clinging to them or due to the loss of talent they're stuck with in the aftermath.

[@gregowen2022]

I completely agree, the DEI was on screen and behind the camera, and some of the writing we’ve been seeing lately with projects like the Live Action Netflix show that there really is a talent problem. Even if they put the politics aside, some of the shows are written like they contracted high school kids to tell the stories. It’s always unfortunate to see studios close, but my fingers are crossed that this will start a wave of independent projects and decentralizes entertainment away from just Hollywood.

[@littlejoe9229]

Man. You are really, really good at expressing yourself. That breakdown of the word, "woke"; where it came from, what it means in pop culture, what happens when it is implemented in real life... was actually educational, not to mention hilarious as hell. Well done.

[@marcusmcspadden9650]

Why do they have a statue of Obi-Wan next to Marx? Also, the only way to make Captain Marvel vulnerable is to have Rogue strip her of her powers like in the comics and the X-men animated series did. I would definitely watch that. Also also Kate Bishop is probably the most believable of the "replacement" characters simply because she spent years idolizing Hawkeye and practicing to be like him and he was still better than her and teaching her things in the show.

[@gregowen2022]

Haha, Obi-Wan Engels. I don’t know much about the comics, but my understanding of the Captain Marvel/Rogue story would have made getting the Xmen into the MCU sooooo easy! How did they miss that one?!

[@marcusmcspadden9650]

@@gregowen2022 It's pretty simple how they missed it: IT WOULD HAVE MADE CAPTAIN MARVEL SEEM WEAK. Or actually human, depending on how you saw it. If you have Disney+ you can watch the original X-men animated series. From what I remember the situation outlined there was close-ish to the comics. You know a ton of guys would show up to a movie to watch Rogue put Brie Larsen in a coma.

[@bfish9700]

You know what kills me? As a business leader who has hired people, I want the most talented person and want to create an environment in which they'll succeed. I feel like the majority of people think that way.

[@lindasmith320]

You’d be surprised- at management level in Australia women without experience or qualifications are being hired over men simply to level out the pay gap. Of course the talented men are still expected to do all the work

[@briannawhitfield9372]

That Napoleon clip made me laugh out 🤣 Love your videos.

[@dud3man6969]

There have been strong "diverse" characters in movies for some time. But the big difference with the woke shit is they can't write them strong and benevolent. They conflate strong with evil and oppressive. So, the characters emulate the mischaracterization these people apply to the "oppressors."

[@heroinekac5402]

Lol... "Halleluyerr!" 😄 Cute opening greeting, a la Madea.💖

[@whynot5568]

Hollywood has become that scam show hustler tent at the circus that says step right up only 5 dollars to see a man eating chicken and when you go inside, it's just a regular man eating a bucket of fried chicken.

[@giornogiovanna845]

My theory is that Bob Iger doesn't really like the woke stuff but is ultimately afraid of those over him and under him who are very VERY woke!

[@GLJosh]

Bob likes the "woke" stuff (read his autobiography) but likes to make money a little bit more.

[@fakeplaystore7991]

Bob Iger would throw these woketards as far as he could if there was any money and power in doing so. He's a Hollywood mogul, he doesn't care. But the woketards do provide a good influx of DEI funds and they defend his honor to the death, as long as he fires whatever fool who appears to talk out of the woke order. So they'll have a lot of sway as long as he is in charge - until the day they attempt to eat him alive. Then we'll see if the can fight the creature he nurtured.

[@crazyralph6386]

He’s obviously beholden more to Blackrock than the Disney board.

[@AMAubert]

Iger thinks he is MLK Jr. He has said so outright, comparing his politics to the Civil Rights movement.

[@Avarn388]

Echo Chamberlain put it best in his latest video: “Hollywood is just high school with money”. The “woke” clique is facing pushback on all sides now. Their “allies” didn’t really support them. And when it’s convenient they back away and turn on them. Becuase let me make it clear. Diversity is a good thing. But it has to be paired with good writing. It’s why I can say I love Arcane and Blue Eye Samurai. Excellent series with female leads but well written. When you write bad tokens and clearly mouthpieces with horrible messages and writing; you aren’t winning anyone outside your audience. And no amount of cult like behavior will sway others. Do better Hollywood. Eat some humble pie and recognize your zip code isn’t the world.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Louder for the ones in the back :O

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

PREACH🗣💯🙏

[@John-fk2ky]

I don’t think diversity is a good thing. It’s just a thing. I’d love for movies to pull from more diverse sources. I’d love to see more historical films set in Africa that actually get the history right or a fantasy film based on African mythology, for example. However, I don’t give a crap about whether a particular movie is all white in casting or has a mix of ethnicities. Making a film with an all black or all Asian cast doesn’t make those films any more diverse except in the eyes of DEI nutcases.

[@gregowen2022]

Echo’s video today was great!

[@SarahFearnley958]

Great summery of what is going on! I’m still surprised Harrison Ford went back to Disney after what they did to Solo. They destroyed two great characters.

[@listenanonymous]

His planes don't maintain themselves$

[@ASo5one]

Man your script is effin amazing. Never heard someone explain this whole topic so thorougly and crystal clear in such a casual way. I feel i missed out by only discovering your channel now.

[@Shockguey]

I was surprised when they announced Captain Falcons movie was going to be "New World Order" while at the same time introducing what is basically Captain Israel (Sabra). It would basically be edifying to all the conspiracy theorists. Not that "Brave New World" is any better if you know anything about Aldous Huxley.

[@gregowen2022]

I was so shocked at them going with Brave New World for the Huxley reasons. Has no one at Marvel heard of that book? Unless Cap is fighting against a government drugging its citizens, I’m not sure where they are going with that title.

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

​@@gregowen2022 'Brave New World' is one of the scariest dystopias I've ever read. I can only hope they haven't read it and just thought the title sounded like some inspirational message. Because I'm pretty sure they didn't get it from reading 'The Tempest' either.

[@milton1448]

No one likes insufferable girl bosses. No one

[@ahabwolf7580]

Awesome video. Regarding the Marvels, I actually thought they were going to play the alcoholism card leading into the movie. That would have been a really fantastic explanation for why Carol was always like "sorry Earth, I got bigger fish to fry", when in reality she was just off somewhere on her ship drinking herself silly to bury her regret at having essentially committed an act of genocide against the Kree. Imagine a movie where Ms. Marvel steps in and provides emotional support, helping Carol recover, and showing her a better path forward and what it means to be a hero, while Carol has to come to grips with the fact that her actions are irreversible (as opposed to miraculously restarting the sun). At the same time Kamala gets a dose of reality when she realizes her idol isn't perfect and that, yeah that ridiculous cliché of "with great power comes great responsibility", is actually a pretty damn good bit of wisdom.

[@gregowen2022]

The had all the set up and squandered it, right?! The alcoholism bit would have been good. Bringing in Rogue would have been good. Heck, even playing out the Skrull rescue scene would have been good. They had a set up like Danvers was going to leave some Skrulls behind and it looked like Ms Marvel was coming to the realization that her hero would really make a cold decision like that…… NOPE, the power of friendship saved everyone and it never gets brought up again. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[@NoMadKid]

Just like Tarantino said, the pendulum swings in Hollywood. You can see smaller budget movies getting traction and franchises are flopping. Examples: Everything Everywhere All At Once and Poor Little Things Consumers are craving new ideas.

[@NOYFB982]

Dune 2 is perfect with strong women and men. That’s what we need.

[@scottdawson6314]

​@shigermuleye5203 Not every character. If you noticed female characters are always described as strong female characters, never the male.

[@fren111]

Where does "girl boss is the new hot" come from? >Harry Potter phenomenon, make every studio ran the children's literature section. >The Hunger Games everyone wanted a teenage girl fighting fascism with Bow, >Connan the Barbarian make all Hollywood star buff... >Matrix all projects have to be a triology >The walking dead the zombie crazy what was the "girl boss master piece" ? If I remember, That's been flop since day one, "ghost buster 2016" and that lame "Charle Angel's" Just to remember

[@DFMoray]

I’m glad you actually printed out the page and put it in the binder

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

Diversity isn't the problem, poor lazy writing, deviating from the source material and ruining legacy characters is the issue. Politics and messages have ruined entertainment on both sides. Geek culture became popular, and trending themes started seeping in. Wonder Woman 1, Black Panther, Spider verse, Barbie, etc. made bank. It can work if done correctly and hits the right target audience. The general audience is getting tired of Hollywood, they tend to flock to movies with tons of hype and wait for the rest on streaming.

[@blueflare3848]

Completely agree.

[@gregowen2022]

Agreed. The subversive nature of these projects isn’t getting attention anymore and the audience is becoming the most dangerous thing imaginable: bored and apathetic. The visuals won’t do it anymore, it’s going to take emotionally connected storytelling to draw people out again.

[@crazyralph6386]

It’s both. When they’re blackwashing characters left and right, it’s woke and against the source material.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@crazyralph6386 yes, I said deviating from source material was part of the issue.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@gregowen2022 Yup exactly, movies used to be full course meals, now it's just fast food.

[@yenziwemotha3049]

1 minute gang

[@gregowen2022]

Me too! Wait, you were talking about how long the video was live…..

[@GideonGreene-qm7co]

Reboots and remakes are symptomatic of a fundamental lack of originality in Hollywood, a creativity crisis fueled by terrified executives clinging to the past like rats to the debris of a sinking ship.

[@JamesScholes]

I've gotta say, you write good scripts for your videos. Your delivery is really good too.

[@GuiltlessGear]

I have to commend you for your explanation here, and how you cleverly lead the viewer into the parallel between 'woke' and the 'red pill'. It's so obvious, but almost never said for fear of not towing the party line, nor approached as delicately as you do here. I'm seriously impressed.

[@Shine0222]

The funniest thing about thw whole situation is that the whole female promotion push in recent years has either caused contraversy or flopped hard/under performed with one major exception..... barbie

[@Shadi092986]

It's always "I'm a girl boss, hear me roar" in the marketing, and then become a wet cat pleading "Please give us a chance. We put some effort in it." when the movie seats are empty.

[@laurisaarinen1126]

Best tackle of these subjects i have come across! You really know what you're talking about 👍

[@jordanott5464]

Dude 'ric flair noises' had me rollin. You MADE me whoo to myself

[@patriot639]

You know what. I'm glad that someone is finally seeing this as clearly as I have been for a long long time. It was somewhere around when Grimm came out where they were making a strong shift towards "wokeness." Now I'm a black man. I'm also a gay man. Those features DO NOT MATTER TO ME IN ENTERTAINMENT. I want "only white" movies and TV shows. Is that Ideal? No. It isn't ideal, but I don't see any way for our current crop of writers and producers to create films without "race" being an issue. Why not all black you might ask? Because all black shows, look at BET, are very racist. Being black is always what's most important to them. Whereas white people tend to think FAR FAR less about their skin colour. I want good entertainment, and while this may be in part due to my "gay" bias I don't mind films having a majority or even an all male cast. I love old james bond films. They were great, the women in them were great and the men in them were great because men acted like men and women acted like women. However, like with having an all white cast I'll take an all male cast until people know how to write women again. The only thing I see for years now is women being written like men. So at least they should know how to write that right.

[@BarbaraWiltGerber]

I used to go to a movie theater nearly every weekend. I haven’t been to a movie theater in four years. F Hollywood.

[@asquirrelplays]

It's crazy to me that studios can "test" a video out then rewrite/reshoot it accordingly to try and get better approvals before releasing it to the entire world. To me that just screams you don't have actually have a story to tell.

[@JaxStravig]

Train wreck of train wrecks has to win some type of KZbin award. You win my day sir.

[@ZoggFromBetelgeuse]

I've seen a video by a guy (don't remember who) who analyzed all the obviously inserted or edited dialogue of Madame Web and concluded that the movie had originally been about Ezekiel trying to prevent the birth of Spiderman . And then they ran into legal issues and couldn't even mention Spiderman, hence the heavy changes.

[@dresdenlancer9012]

15:15 brilliant editing. I didn't even realize when you swapped the audio track.

[@noel99991]

It’s simple, you can’t make customers purchase your “entertainment” against their will. You either give them what they want or they will leave. No way around it.

[@ColinFox]

Nice work, Greg. You've got great on-screen presence and your presentation style is bright, witty, engaging and incisive. Keep up the good work!

[@lefid]

The Marcus Aurelius joke, Greg! lol!

[@magistersolis.3750]

This is a good year for the audience. Sweet Baby Inc. discovered and being rejected on mass loudly by gamers. After they insulted their gaming audience much like Hollywood did with peformitive diversity. And now Hollywood is being mocked not only by the audience but those within the industry.

[@joshz7712]

Second video ive seen from you, normally i wait for 3 but i like your video format. Subbed.

[@faithlessangel6836]

Putting whole groups of people down and Degrading them just to rise other people up is always the best idea that surely won't backfire at all whatsoever in the future

[@mikedevonish3933]

Hollywood is done even if they cut out woke. All of the real talent is gone and must be replaced.

[@Zachydoodoo28363]

Hey broski, new to your channel but enjoying your content! Very entertaining delivery 👍

[@MichaelCravith]

It'll be like pulling off something stuck down with super glue. We've got it about half off, but it isn't gone yet. There are loads of signs to be optimistic about, though, and Christ knows most of us are tired of being pessimistic these days. Great video, Greg.

[@SEKreiver]

First time on this channel. Might subscribe!

[@roblhaze]

Thank you for explaining the orgins of the term "woke" thats worth a like.

[@projectalice8119]

They may be able to silence the opposition online, but the power of the purse requires no words.

[@tomharrington1453]

Jordan Peterson is right: there are only a small number of truly creative people out there. Most people don't have ideas, ideas have them. If you are going to pick people to lead creative projects based on their gender or skin color you are going to get really creative outcomes.

[@jiqoynicholas1280]

Maaaan. Finally someone mentions where the term "woke" originated. It sucks they hijacked this word from us. We don't even use it anymore lol

[@M_K-Bomb]

This was a fun watch. That's a good point about cutting out the Woke cringe from movies. I already noticed how Captain Marvel (the first one) had toned down on a lot of it's agenda cringe and I think with Falcon and The Winder Soldier having so much backlash I wouldn't be surprised if we get a huge amount of stuff getting cut out.