HOLOSUN 508T X2 (V2) Overview and Comparison with ACTUAL DIMENSIONS (ft. Gen1 508T, Trijicon RMR)

[@Alop777]

Nice work. I'm about to receive the 508t-RDX2 and your comprehensive review answered any questions I may have had. Thank you!

[@a.d.c7941]

How was it when u got it? Any quality control issues? Ive seen some horror stories on here so im not sure which way to go with this.

[@TheNewKG]

No dislikes, that’s awesome we need more of this in this community

[@graycattactical1614]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@EzraLopezUSPSA]

This review answered all of my questions that other videos could not. Especially when you compared the actual measurements all the way down to a thousandth of an inch. I needed that. Thanks! Really great job.

[@jayrowe6473]

When I first considered one of these, it was at a local gun shop the other day when I was buying a new pistol. The store personnel suggested a Holosun that retailed for $349, and I was pretty excited about it. My first impression was that it was a good quality sight, having the dot and the circlular green reticle pattern. They no longer come with the mounting plate and the store didn't have one on hand, so that allowed me to do some research. After reading some reviews and watching a bunch of videos about rotated reticles and gobs of glue, I'm a little leery of buying one now.

[@jaason101]

I heard these things too and have the same apprehension. I bought one from a guy on line. I asked him if this optic had any of the quality control issues and he said no. Really hoping he is right and it is awesome. I am pretty new to holosun dots but it seems they are taking over the market. I have one of their 507k x2 and it is a good optic. I hate that it is a Chinese company but we ll see how it goes. Hopefully i ll get the 507t tomorrow

[@jayrowe6473]

@@jaason101 I bought one and I like it.

[@freddietellez8737]

@@jayrowe6473 if u look at euro optic they have a veterans discount 508t 319.00 so if u have a buddy thats a vet he or she can log on and check out the discounts vortex offers 40% off you will just have to wait till there creds are updated. Hope this helps

[@cgoodwin9397]

Best overall side by side review . Very informative. With solid opinions and reasoning. Thanks

[@graycattactical1614]

Appreciate the feedback! I might recommend that you watch my more recent holosun video. It's become hard to recommend after a few faulty ones.

[@samthomas5201]

Excellent review, appreciate the measurements and comparing them side by side.

[@GregoryMSchmidt]

Great stuff. Thanks for going through this. I’ve been weighing these against each other.

[@MrDucatiV4]

Holosuns 508T all the way! 💯 Got rid of all my trijicon rmr the moment the 508T-X2 came out! The dot is so much cleaner on the 508T

[@nmtay]

Holosun is probably the only company from China that I'll be ok with buying from. Been using them for 5 years now and, personally, I've never had an issue. They've always had the best features and the most reasonable prices, especially back at a time when they were priced just a little bit higher than some of the crap red dots, like the Sightmarks and Leapers/UTG. Over the years, they've become my go-to for red dots. Particularly, because I like the circle dot reticle and Eotechs are a little too bulky for some applications. Anyways, great review man!

[@travelerfourever1347]

I really liked your informative video, great product comparisons. As you mentioned, the Holosun has more features and is less expensive but I'll stick with the Trijicon. I have three RMRs installed on various pistols and they've never let me down. All I really need is a red dot and the 3.5 MOA works great for me. Thanks again for the excellent video.

[@gristelli]

congratulations for the review, by far the most technical in terms of measurements and adjustments to the weapon. In the last few weeks I've been racking my brains over whether to get a trijicon rmr type 2 for my masada, or a holosun 508t x2. One of the things that worries me is that the masada, according to the manufacturer, does not have the Holsun in the list of compatible red dots (even knowing that the footprint of both is the same, only changing the length of the screw (a detail that if not observed can ruin the pistol.) I appreciate if you can help with any suggestion or tip. Best wishes from Brazil.

[@ohenry4834]

Am leaning towards holosun 508T X2, as well.

[@graycattactical1614]

You may want to check out my other more recent video on the 508T first

[@walldogger1]

I'm reading too many reviews about Holosun's half-assed QC lately. I'll probably take my chances on a SRO with 2.5 MOA dot for my VP-9.The only concern is if the sight will get beat-up by ejecting brass. I'll make sure to put a B.R.O.S cover on before shooting, should help.

[@graycattactical1614]

Thought about that as well and had similar concerns. I also played with one in store and just thought it was too big for a carry gun. I wish trijicon would make a v3 RMR with the top loading battery.

[@SierraKilo6]

Awesome info, everything I had questions about was answered!!

[@whliving]

I am curious to know your experience with Holosun’s customer service. Their optics, from all the reviews, appear to be tanks. BUT, I haven’t seen any videos talking about the customer service aspect of the company. Accidents do happen and even a very rugged optic may have the misfortune of breaking/cracking or in some other way harshly damaging the optic. I have read their warranty statement and it does not cover accidental damage. The best warranty is the one you don’t have to use, but you might. All that to say, how is their customer service if one became damaged from a drop or being run into something? How long would it take to get one back (Leupold has always been very fast - usually less than a week)? This appears to be a possible problem with owning this optic. Lastly, if one must use their customer service, where do you send it? I am seriously leaning towards the 508t, or maybe the 509t, but I haven’t been able to find the above questions answered. 2 more questions - what is the thickness of the rear portion of the holosun vs the rmr? And therefore, what height back-up irons would one need to be able to use them and which brands have those irons. Thanks for a great video. You covered information that others have not. Keep up the good work.

[@graycattactical1614]

Appreciate the thoughtful input! I sent my 508T off to Holosun's facility in California right after filming this video. They've had it in their possession for 20 business days now. Their site and their customer service reps both estimate 10-12 business day turnaround for warranty claims. Each time I contact them to ask about the status of mine or whether they have replacements in stock, I'm met with a copy-pasted response asking for 5-7 additional business days due to unusually high volume. This is concerning because it either means that they have a high volume of warranty claims or an that they're prioritizing new sales over warranties. I do plan on posting an update once this is resolved, but it's getting to a point where I'm considering asking for a refund rather than waiting indefinitely for a replacement. As for the thickness of that back section, I can try to update my spreadsheet when/if I get a replacement. From memory, I'd say the difference is in the range of 0.100" (Holosun is a bit thicker). I can use the same irons for either setup. Which brand and heights you go with depend on the gun, your mounting method (i.e. direct mill or MOS-type plate). In any case, I always recommend Dawson Precision. They make quality sights for most pistols in a huge variety of heights, widths, depths, etc.

[@whliving]

@@graycattactical1614 - thanks for the quick response. I contacted them today to see how they were on the phone and to gauge their responses. I believe your copy/paste description is apt. I felt the same way when speaking to them - not very conversational. The guy I spoke to stated that standard suppressor sights would be sufficient, but not provide the ability for a co-witness with the dot. I’m not sure that higher sights (above standard suppressor sights) would be necessary since I don’t think I would use them often - they are for emergencies. Further, a very tall front post may be a distraction. With regard to their turn around time, he stated that it depended on extent of repair, amount of repairs they had, blah, blah, blah...., but generally 2-3wks. I also asked, after explaining that I had read several times over their warranty info, if they would warranty repair/replace an optic that had been damaged by accidental damage (drops, run ins with hard objects, etc). He stated they would. He didn’t leave me with much confidence. I felt he was less than candid and asked if they would send me something that stated that - he said he had nothing to send that would state that the would repair/replace under warranty. I’m not sure what to make of his answers. I’m still leaning towards buying it. As I said in my post, it appears to be built like a tank. Especially after watching Sage Dynamics testing. I don’t plan on using the warranty, but no one ever does. It would be in their best interest to make clear in writing that they will repair/replace. They are still building a following and negative reviews of their service won’t help them grow as a company.

[@graycattactical1614]

@@whliving Every time I've called them, I got a message saying that "due to unusually high call volumes" they are not currently taking calls and to contact them via their sales email instead haha. I finally got a response that they're sending my replacement or repaired optic (I'm still not sure which) this week. I'd say that I'm somewhat disappointed with their CS overall. I know that other companies like Trijicon and Vortex have much better CS and warranties, but at the end of the day, the actual usability of the optic is what matters most to me. As for the iron sight issue, you might consider just getting the cheapest set possible to test out. As long as you know the heights of both, you can actually use Dawson's calculator to figure out what heights you'd need to adjust POI. Sure, you'd end up wasting the first set, but you'd at least know for sure that you got the right height the second time. If it's at all helpful, I have a video of my P10C where I posted the backup iron specs that give me the lowest possible cowitness with the 1st gen 508T.

[@1984lsHere]

Thanks for your reviews. I did order a holosun 508 t x2 this week but now I know what to look for. If any issues are present, ill change it up to a trijicon. Very valuable info. cheers man

[@graycattactical1614]

Appreciate the feedback! Best of luck with your 508T. If it works out, I do still think it's the best optic on paper.

[@maddantt7757]

very good review, earned my sub. thanks

[@bluebayou7472]

Very cool. Have you been able to use the same suppressor height backup sights for all 3 or did you have to get taller sights for the holosuns?

[@graycattactical1614]

The holosuns are a tiny bit higher, but I run the same sights on all of them. I prefer to have the irons barely visible in the window anyway.

[@bluebayou7472]

@@graycattactical1614 Thanks man. What Irons have you been using on your glocks for lower 1/3 or 1/4?

[@ninetyfive1]

Really helpful, thanks.

[@graycattactical1614]

Happy to help!

[@Merkaba954]

I got my 508t x2 green last week or so for 300 flat

[@MrRobGodek]

great video brother!

[@graycattactical1614]

Thanks for watching!

[@jb1401]

Great video

[@KENAHIGHLANDER]

I have a 507C X2 and my red dot circle is rotated as well.

[@graycattactical1614]

Seems like an extremely common problem. Sorry to hear yours is messed up as well.

[@KENAHIGHLANDER]

@@graycattactical1614 Did they repair yours?

[@graycattactical1614]

@@KENAHIGHLANDER no. Check out the more recent video I made about it. They actually sent me a more broken one haha.

[@johnparrish336]

👍🏼 Good video. Thank you.

[@glsec507]

Anyone else have the Holosun 507c/508t and find the circle ring with the dot to be wayyy larger than it appears in these videos on KZbin? My reticle when set on the 32 moa circle with the dot takes up nearly 3/4ths of the glass. In these videos the circle and dot are a fraction of that size.

[@graycattactical1614]

Yes, it has to do with the perspective. Since the dot/reticle are projected on the the glass, it will always be the same absolute size. The size that it appears to you (or the the camera) depends on the distance from the glass.

[@801guitar3]

I always change mine to the dot but when I turn it off then back on, it goes back to circle dot...I can't figure out how to keep it as a dot through poweroffs.

[@dlee8237]

I have the v2 the buttons are way better than my rmr. The rmr is very out of date and I got it at a good price for my first optic for a handgun. My holosun blows the rmr out the water and that's just the truth.

[@santigonzalez8028]

Could you describe the top shroud/hood thickness as viewed from the rear of the 2 Holosun’s? Is one visibly thicker (obstructs target more or field of view) than the other while shooting? I currently use vortex Venoms due to the thinness of the shroud but am thinking of moving over to Holosun.

[@BluePatch-pc7sx]

Watched all three of your video for 508T, was on the fench for Trijicon SRO(like the view field) but glass broke(Sage Dynamics). I am retired ELO(54) my eyes see green better, really like the Holosun 508T-GR-V2. Paid 369.99 OpticPlante sale for Tax day. I will let you know if I have good experience.

[@lorpalo4097]

Can’t tell if you were joking about selling rmr . But I’m interested

[@graycattactical1614]

Totally serious. Can you email me tiyyasuda at gmail.com ? Don't want to get in trouble from the KZbin police haha

[@lorpalo4097]

Gray Cat Tactical sent

[@graycattactical1614]

@@lorpalo4097 replied with pictures

[@1stAmendmentfukyoutube]

Holosuns hood is huge compared to trijicon. Seems like a lot of added weight comparably. Ordered the Holosun but I’m having second thoughts. I own rmrcc and it’s fine. Plus honestly fck China at this point

[@mikeh7203]

So Holosun with the 508T x2 has discontinued shipping with the pic rail adaptor mount? That would explain why I did not get one with my order I received yesterday I thought maybe it was a QC issue and they did not pack it? That sucks.

[@graycattactical1614]

It does. How's your 508? I just got my warranty replacement... And it's also broken haha. It's starting to feel like a bad joke.

[@mikeh7203]

@@graycattactical1614 ok so far I got it yesterday mounted to my MR920L today played around dry firing today with it seems ok. Had a little black sealer inside around the lens but it came off with a quick swipe, notice the coating not so great on the inside walls/wings but I guess those are more nit picking. Hope they resolve your issue should not happen for what you pay for it. Was waiting since December for mine.

[@graycattactical1614]

@@mikeh7203 sounds like a cool build. Love the idea of the long/short combo. I'll definitely post a full review/update when this is sorted.

[@bukabuka4386]

The V2 also don't have the hash marks.

[@huey7437]

Could you please provide the rear ledge height? Looking to see if my F8 iron sights will cowitness... Thanks in advance.

[@davidgriffin6655]

Have a question. . I have a Holosun 507 cand bought a a g19 gen 3 RMR cut slide..I was told I needed an adapter plate for my holsun to fit correctly could you give me a link or point me in the right direction in regards to which mounting plate I need ..it Is an RMR cut slide from AIM Surplus..thank you in advance!

[@graycattactical1614]

The 507C and RMR share the same footprint, so you shouldn't need an adapter at all.

[@davidgriffin6655]

@@graycattactical1614 I'd I don't need an adapter plate then what are the holes at the front of the sight for..I had an adapter plate that came with the holosun that makes it possible to put on a rail mount it has two little tabs there to mount in 4 places two up front and the two screws in the back..so my question is if those two tabs are not used will the sight move upon using my g19 and lose my Zero?

[@graycattactical1614]

@@davidgriffin6655 those holes are meant to interface with recoil lugs that should be part of your slide cut. There's a chance that whoever milled your slide didn't leave the posts there. There's some debate about this, but I'd just say that screws are not meant to withstand sheer (perpendicular) force. The lugs are meant to do that job. Not having them may or may not cause issues.

[@davidgriffin6655]

@@graycattactical1614 on the rmr slide cut I bought from AIM surplus it came that way without the posts for the front holes of my holosun , I've been told there is an adapter plate that goes there but don't have any idea of which one I need to get.. that's my whole dilemma, I would think even if I used only the screws and even though it seems to fit good there would be a chance with that movement of the slide without those front two studs it could lose zero...was just wanting to know exactly what I needed to get the most out of mounting my holosun the Model number from AIM surplus is AIM 2S RMR Cut Slide..the Sku# is XAIMGS19G3CSGRMRNCP .don't know if that helps ...just trying to find someone that knows what I need and where to get it..appreciate your help!! Anything else helpful would be greatly appreciated...thanks!

[@derrickball4010]

So I’m curious how much would the 508T XC hang over the slide of a Staccato 2011 P DPO?

[@graycattactical1614]

Ah, if I still had mine I'd get a picture for you. I believe if you Google search, you can find a 1911 with a 507. The staccatos are the usual 1911 width and the 507/508 series are all the same width (minus the battery tray).

[@AMCAL2311]

Hello just bY chance do you still have that red dot pistol sight

[@leol4893]

which watch is this? g-shock square?

[@graycattactical1614]

GW-S5600-1JF. Carbon fiber and titanium. Love this thing, maybe I'll make a short vid about it in the future.

[@aguileomeza607]

How much for the rmr

[@chuon75]

Will this fit the Sig P365XL? or it only fits with a plate?

[@mendoafgoo420]

Any leads where to find one in stock? Been looking for the 508T for months and everywhere is either overdue or back ordered

[@graycattactical1614]

Same deal here. I'd check Brownell's every week or so. I got in the habit of checking a few sites every few days. I think Brownell's sold out very shortly after sending their in-stock notifications, so checking on your own is the way to go. I was also able to find them on Agency when they posted about it on IG, but they had them priced about 100 dollars over everyone else and they ended up cancelling my order without notifying me. Last option - call around all your local gun stores. You'll probably pay more than you want, but you could get lucky and find one collecting dust on a shelf somewhere.

[@walldogger1]

@@graycattactical1614 If you Really want to waste your life away, hold out for a 508T in GREEN!

[@graycattactical1614]

@@walldogger1 lol that was the original intent

[@lonestar8190]

Year later after this video came out and I just Paid $335.00 for a 508T X2.

[@a.d.c7941]

Any issues with it??

[@J0hn90]

Dose the RMR and 508 x2 has the same Footprint?

[@graycattactical1614]

Yes, they do.

[@justinwilks1546]

I paid $260 for my holosun 507k x2 series from optic planet

[@aaronlunzmann6534]

Wish I wouldn’t have watched to the end. When I see reviewers with issues like this it makes me very hesitant to buy.

[@aaronlunzmann6534]

BUT excellent video. Fantastic info, I’ll definitely check out your other content. Thanks for your work.

[@graycattactical1614]

Thanks for watching. I'll be reevaluating another holosun on the channel soon to see if anything's changed.

[@bryuchiha1617]

😎😎😎😎

[@justkiknit]

I WANT 508 W/ ACSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GatCat]

So my cat looks very similar. So I made a KZbin channel that is about guns, and he’s in it too. lol.

[@kevinnguyen2777]

RMR’s in Canada are $700+ 😂

[@graycattactical1614]

At least healthcare is cheap, right? 😂

[@mc-sillix961]

In Germany 800€. If i convert it straigt to dollar it would be 900$..

[@johnnyeads3207]

Your audio background is noisy.