HOLY MOUNT LANAYRU - Let's Play The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom [Part 13]

[@thajocoth]

"I assume they stack..." - They do. Somebody timed each combination to verify it... But the better defense charm replaced the old one, so you can't stack defense. The material+ also replaced the regular material charm.

[@thajocoth]

Ah yes, bring a *double-salt* smoothie to the _freshwater_ fish guy... I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine...

[@a-heroic-furry-i-guess1378]

He"s a salt water fish, surrounded by seawater.

[@thajocoth]

@@a-heroic-furry-i-guess1378 In Wind Waker, the Zora evolved into Rito because they couldn't adapt to saltwater, and it was the newer style of Zora introduced in Ocarina of Time that had this evolution, which is who they're using in Echoes of Wisdom for the Sea Zora. So this style of Zora are freshwater based on what info we've been given by Nintendo. This certainly wouldn't work for any sea on _Earth,_ because all seas here are saltwater, but Hyrule isn't on Earth and clearly follows different rules from our world. (Also, the water the Sea Zora live in would more realistically be a bay anyway, as it's surrounded on three sides by land, and there are freshwater bays, so it could just be a naming issue.)

[@praus]

I know Keith has probably finished this game or is almost done. However, a good way to know how many more things you can summon is to look at Tri’s tail. It shows in real time what your summoning budget is.

[@Zept-01]

Yup, he's been done for a little over two weeks now. Is a good tip though. Granted, there is really no punishments or taxes for summoning so can usually go over without issue.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

@@Zept-01 depends, if you’re spam summoning you can end up despawning an echo before it has chance to attack, rendering the endeavour null and void. It’s also useful for puzzle solving as the last thing you want is to summon something, causing something else to despawn and break the chain. 😉

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

2:30:27 - I think it was defrosting him, it’s just that you had so many ice octos, that they were able to mostly outpace the thawing and refreeze him.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

56:53 - same thing with the binoculars for material+; you originally got a telescope for regular material appearance and later on did a quest that upgraded it to a pair of binoculars (not sure how that works; maybe whoever you did the quest for duck taped two telescopes together?)

[@thajocoth]

The fairy quest wasn't added by freeing the king... It gets added after you help the Gorons, so its even *more* random & arbitrary.

[@thajocoth]

(I'm not saying the answer unless I'm asked.) The only puzzle in the game I had to look up the solution for was the one in the room full of ghinis in the grave with the teddy bear. It was simultaneously "of course I'd never get that" and "that was so simple and basic" at the same time.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

1:46:43 - random thought that just occurred to me; they could’ve had an imposter Stamp Guy be a silly little miniboss for this rift, given actual Stamp Guy mentions his stamp stand was swallowed by it. I can just imagine you come across him and a couple of imposter enemies and a silly little animation plays of them stamping stuff and having fun until they notice Zelda.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

2:41:13 - not everyone is going to have the same thought processes as you Keith, so not everyone is going to think about solving a puzzle in the same way. Like, that switch mechanic was introduced in a room with an Armos, so most players are going to think about using one as the solution whenever those switches reappear; because you didn’t solve the original puzzle that way, you’ve never had that become ingrained in your brain as the intended solution, so have ended up coming up with other ways to solve it. Also, to a degree this room expands on the previous tutorial by showing what happens when you pass the orb through different geysers, whereas previously it’s only been one element.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

6:37 - well they could alway lock off specific echos and/or limit how many triangles Tri has; just throw a couple lines of dialogue from Tri at the start about how their powers are being suppressed while inside the rift to explain it, then build the area around needing specific combos to solve them.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

17:23 - that’s why you count the triangles trailing behind Tri. 😉

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

1:06:02 - enter stage left, Keith’s newest Zelda husbando. 😜 Edit: 1:38:33 - correction, _now_ enter new Keith Zelda husbando.

[@Zept-01]

Keith can have them both, as a treat. He's going through Rain World on Patreon, so he needs some large husbandos X)

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

@@Zept-01 I have no idea what that game is, so I’ll take your word for it he needs the comfort. 😝

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

1:03:50 - it’s pretty comprehensible if you don’t forget a certain mechanic and combine it with a specific echo you got in this very area that isn’t the teddy bear.

[@Zept-01]

It is a little strange they introduce the bear in the room before when it doesn't actually help with the puzzle.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

@@Zept-01true, but thats probably so they dont have to come up with another ghost cave to tutorialise how to fight ghosts easier.

[@Zept-01]

@lordofuzkulak8308 Despite how big this game is, there are more than a few design decisions like that.