Holyton 9205E Brushless Upgrade - HobbyWing 3652

✅BUY THIS CAR (stock form):
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✅ Motor/ESC combo(4000kv):
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✅3 wire steering servo:
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✅Transmitter & reciever:
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We finally upgraded the brushless set, that we had already upgraded from the brushed motor, to a much better brushless set! We installed a 4000kv motor so we could compare it to our other similar car with a 3300 kv motor. The Hobbywing in the other car works great, so we went with that same brand. We also take it out for a read drive and see what I can do! We had to do a quick chassis and differential replacement as well!

[@sandiwiezycki2224]

Oh man that was totally freaking awesome I need to get my holyton upgraded like, and it was super fast. Love your videos Derby City dude

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yes very fast!! You do need to upgrade yours! It will be unleashed!😅

[@dwainestill82]

More videos I love your channel.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks man!! I’ve got like 130 videos for ya already! 😃😎😎🤣🤣

[@SpeedSyko]

OH YA!!!! SPEEEEEEEEDDDDD! 🔥🔥🏆👊

[@DerbyCityRC]

Absolutely!

[@Natethegreat2020]

Nice video

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks 😎

[@makestuffbetter19]

Very cool upgrade! You got a new sub from me! 🎉

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks!! Glad you like it 😀

[@scaccobol]

cool video friend👏👏

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks!! 😎👍

[@LizAmazing]

Great video, your son is such a cutie!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thank you!!

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

You really know how to make’em fly man! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻More kv’s=more sky! I had one of these holytons and their as tuff as nails! Yours held up extremely well I’d say🤪. If you want it broken though, I think your “mini me” knows how to get the job done!😆 what a hambone he is! It’s great that your teaching him about all this fun stuff. When my kids were little, they’d break their Rc’s all the time! Wasn’t as much fun for me after a while, because we would end up with a bunch of broken stuff , and I didn’t always have the time or money to get parts and do repairs. That may be the reason they got out of it. They’d always say, “did you fix it yet?”, think they hated waiting for them to get fixed.😩 These days they still like Rc’s but they know they are gonna have to help fix them or learn to, if they want to keep playing with them! As always bro, fantastic video !💯💯💯⚡️⚡️⚡️👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼🏎💨

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks so much, man! Yes he is a hambone! That’s why I usually give him either the Holyton or an HBX, cuz they are strong! This one broke pretty quick for some reason. He blasted the Kraton pretty bad on that thanksgiving video I did lol. He’s starting to get really good, though!!

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

@@DerbyCityRC he certainly is brother!👏⚡️👊🏼🤪

[@DrunkinPunch]

Looked like it was a lot of fun but man that’s a fragile little truck 😂 Good video though enjoyed it 👌🏻

[@DerbyCityRC]

It was fun! But I’ll tell you what, that truck really does take a beating! If you haven’t seen them, check out some of the other videos on my “brushless conversions” playlist. The same exact car with the green body is an absolute beast! This one must have been having a bad day lol.

[@DrunkinPunch]

@@DerbyCityRC I will double back and check it out 👍

[@chrisyoung7988]

I love your videos man. I’m looking for tips on a infraction mega setup. motor gearing esc. Im tired of burning out esc

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! I don’t have an infraction yet so can’t help too much, but have you tried a slightly bigger pinion to put less strain on the electronics? Better quality esc?

[@BoostisKing]

Wooow lol, Great video

[@DerbyCityRC]

Lol thanks!! It’s a beast!

[@fearless3geclipse]

Hey, can you share where you got the pinion gear? I see that it's different from the original. Is it the same tooth count? It's the only thing that im missing, so I can do the brushless upgrade. Thanks man

[@M3dunkman]

Spur and pinion I can’t find one that is that hexagonal shape

[@chuckneal5828]

hi Derby, another question head lights! how to hook them up? my guess empty channel on reciever but how?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Should be able to use the empty channel, but I really don’t know as I don’t really use the headlights so haven’t looked into it yet

[@jerrygraham2471]

Need help changing my motor I need to know what to look for so I can get the right motor for mine

[@DerbyCityRC]

That Hobbywing combo has been hard to find. Here is what I’ve been recommending in its place for now: the esc is bigger so it may not fit exactly like mine did. amzn.to/3DAOxA5

[@chuckneal5828]

hi Derby, quick question can you please share a link or let me know what you suggest for a 3S battery? i been using these triangle 3cell 18650 packs there seems not to be the best for power.. what are your suggestions??

[@DerbyCityRC]

I like these right here. Theyre too tall for the plastic battery strap though so you need to have other means to hold it down amzn.to/3oymFbZ

[@michaelrocha7351]

Do u know a replacement for the pinion gear because mine the teeth broke off!

[@DerbyCityRC]

That stinks! It used to be available on Amazon but I can’t find it. Here is an eBay link. Just be sure your pinion is removable and not a pressEd on type. Some of the newer ones don’t have a set screw!! 🤨

[@njmces]

Awesome video and nice work, do you know what pitch the pinion/spur gear are? 42p is what I think, I've got a deerc 201e that's already brushless from the box but am putting a better brushless motor(esc and servo are 3s already) in and am curious about switching to more teeth(my stock is a 17 tooth) but am worried about not being able to adjust lash between the pinion and spur.... What are your thoughts??

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! The brushless ones like this one come with a 22T. The pitch is a MOD 0.6, which may equate to 42p, I can’t remember. You also can’t adjust gear mesh on these, but I wonder if you could use a motor mount from one of these to fit on yours and use a 22t. The 201e is still a 1/10 (really 1/12 realistically) isn’t it? Or is that one of their 1/18 scales?

[@grantromriell4970]

where do you find parts for your cars, I've stripped my spur gear and my driveshafts are very worn-out.

[@DerbyCityRC]

I get most of mine from Pxtoysrc.com if unavailable on Amazon. 👍

[@evilclown325]

I have put nearly $200 into my holyton and it's still struggles with really bad cogging and its the surpass upgrade and its bad i mean it want even go no where unless i push it or pick it up and the wheels spin like normal but when u set it down on the ground or floor it cogs really bad im just wondering what esc and motor did u use like what amp is the esc and what pinion gear did you use what T is it ? Because I'm really hoping to upgrade mine like you did everything has failed and the upgrade I bought does not work and your link works but the product is not for sale no more on amazon. I just need some help with mine and I just want to know what pinion gear you used and what type of ESC and motor that's all.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Mine was the Hobbywing 3300kv motor (this video was actually a 4000kv but the 3300 is better). It’s a 60 amp esc. 22T motor pinion is the only size you can use. What kv is your motor? Try this set. It’s similar to the one that is no longer in stock and should have absolutely no problem moving this car. amzn.to/3P3NPm0 Hopefully this helps!

[@tasmaniandevil5245]

Can you use a lower kv brushless motor in it?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yes that shouldn’t be an issue, as long as it fits. In theory it would lower the top speed but give it even more torque. However this car is not lacking in that department lol if I remember right, this video I used a 4,000 kv. I have a lot of other videos with a 3300 kv motor in similar cars. They both work well.

[@joemurph9524]

Where can I get a the steering servo. I checked Amazon but can’t find that 1

[@DerbyCityRC]

Here is the link to it. I know sometimes they are out of stock so hopefully they have it now. I haven’t been able to find it on Amazon. www.banggood.com/custlink/DvDE0jdbIz

[@Ghetto_Rc]

So I went with deerc 9200 and went brushless hobby wing with 60a esc double 3s 50 c and it does fly 😂 I want more power any ideas?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Haha, even more power? You’ll rip the axles out lol

[@normanrogers8057]

Banggood shipping was super fast I got my truck already and it to fast to run in the house scared the shit out of the cats lol

[@DerbyCityRC]

Lol! That’s awesome!!

[@mnakash77]

Im not sure I noticed a difference in performance other than more breakage. Would you say the higher KV motor was more fun than lower one? I am just about to buy that

[@DerbyCityRC]

Great question! I do feel that the 4000 KV is a little bit faster, but I feel that I have much more fun with the 3300KV. It definitely has more torque and does flips easier.

[@Jet.trunks]

What kind of pinion gear is that

[@DerbyCityRC]

This kind! amzn.to/3HR5UOO

[@normanrogers8057]

Can’t seem to order hobby wing motor

[@DerbyCityRC]

Well dang!!

[@Condor1970]

So, would upgrading the battery from a stock 15C discharge rate to a 50C discharge rate help? Especially since the ESC is rated for up to 45amps, and the limiting factor for stock batteries is 15C discharge rate.

[@DerbyCityRC]

What f you did a motor upgrade, depending on what you did, it should help tremendously. This upgrade I did here barely works with the stock battery at all. If everything is stock, it will probably make a small difference, but likely nothing too substantial.

[@Condor1970]

@@DerbyCityRC ...I just got a battery upgrade. I bought the 2S Urgenex 50c 2200mah lipo batteries. The 50C discharges fast enough to allow the 45a ESC to use its full ability without having to get a better motor. It can maintain the full 7.4v all the time with no lag. I can upgrade the motor at a later date. But, I got 2 batteries for $30, and its torque and top speed have increased by a good 5-10% without burning up the stock ESC or the motor.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Oh wow, nice!!!

[@chrism6909]

Love the videos....what shocks would you replace stock ones with ??

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! Here are he shocks i use. They are oil filled and work much better!www.banggood.com/custlink/mKvdbC5GSw

[@chrism6909]

@@DerbyCityRC any shocks that would get from Amazon. That's a better buying platform for me. Thx in advance. Just broke one in this cold weather

[@DerbyCityRC]

@@chrism6909 I’ve been looking, but haven’t found any yet. The ones from Banggood are the only ones I’ve used so far, so I don’t have any on Amazon that I know for sure will work yet.

[@rykerthestryker777]

Hey Great Video! Im lookin for a cheap little rc to screw around that i dont really have to worry about, what is your favorite cheap rc that you have?

[@DerbyCityRC]

The Holytons like this one and the green one I have are certainly up there. If you’re looking for speed, the hbx 901a is great right out of the box!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Also, thanks for the kind words! Our HBX 16890 and 16889 brushless versions are super awesome too! A bit smaller, but still super fun!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Ya if you want small I definitely recommend the 16890 or the 16889a. They are practically the exact same car, just depends on which you think looks better👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

Your last comment disappeared for some reason, but I saw the beginning of it. Yes the 16889a is also a 16th scale. Our review of that car will probably be coming out Saturday 👍 Plus we have several videos with the 16890 including upgrades we’ve done to it.

[@MrDannysotelo]

Hey derby, love your videos...your son makes it even more enjoyable. I need your opinion,A: granite 3s blx ($260) Or B: i have a 60amp esc, 3660 brushless laying around, all i need is the servo ($15) and a ($100)9200[px, enoze, deerc] which would you do if you had to choose???

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks Mr Danny!! Max is the star of the show! (Even though he’s been in time out a lot today) lol. Behind the scenes can be nasty lol. We don’t have a Granite yet, so hard for me to say for sure. The granite is probably a bit bigger, but the $260 version is brushed so probably not as fast. If you want to drive like we do, I would probably do the brushless conversion. Both cars will break, but the px parts are much cheaper than the Arrma parts we’ve bought for the Kraton so far. What brand motor/esc do you have?

[@MrDannysotelo]

Yeah timeouts are necessary but as long as you still enjoy a good bash he'll be ok. So i have a surpass hobby 3300kv/60amp combo i had from bangood. But my granite is the brushless blx i got a good deal for $260 lol. But after watching your videos it looks like lots of fun being smaller, lighter...where i can tell the granite is very beefy and with that weight runs through rather than wild (which looks fun). And then i went to compare parts ($$)...wow. So i figured get a good opinion from you because i can resell and get a fun car i can feel good about abusing with less $$ worry. Also, you think the 3660 will fit, i see its pretty tight with the esc. Thsnks

[@DerbyCityRC]

@@MrDannysotelo gotcha!! Ya I imagine the granite parts are a bit more lol. The 3652 motor fits easy and there is definitely 8mm more room for the 3660 but the surpass hobby esc that I removed in this video was too big and I had to mount it on top of the chassis brace instead of down in the frame like a good little esc lol. Yours may not be as big as that one was.

[@devinw9698]

What size pinion did you use?? I tried a 25&26t pinion and it don’t touch the spur

[@DerbyCityRC]

It’s actually a 22T, but needs to be a 0.6 MOD.

[@devinw9698]

@@DerbyCityRC how do I repair or replace my cvd’s…rear key ring to keep the pin in place came off and can’t any replacement

[@DerbyCityRC]

I’ve had trouble repairing those before. I was able to find my own ring spring at one point but I was lucky to find that. Here is a link to axles. Hopefully that helps. amzn.to/3HXAV3k

[@cdmalton1806]

Every pinion I try 19,21,22,23 doesn't mesh well any suggestions? And what about a replacement plate the motor mounts to is there an upgrade or a stock one I can get?

[@DerbyCityRC]

This is the pinion right here. Same size as stock but stronger. You will need the adapter sleeve it comes with. I haven’t found an upgraded motor mount. However you can get replacement stock ones from pxtoysrc.com

[@cdmalton1806]

@@DerbyCityRC thank you got it ordered.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Woops sorry I forgot to add the link for the pinion lol. amzn.to/3LmWjAo

[@brandontheurer2007]

Hello I really enjoy your content. Keep making more please. Just to confirm the holyton in this video has a 1/8 inch drive shaft?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! We’ve already got over 100 videos with no plans of slowing down! Are you talking about the motor drive shaft? It is 3.175mm, which is essentially 1/8.” If you’re talking about the actual driveshaft of the car, I haven’t measured it. Lol

[@chuckneal5828]

hi Derby, got the 9205e started the upgrade project why didnt you mention that the stock pinion gear wont fit on the 3.175 shaft? i did find a mod0.6 with several pinions no 22T there is a 21T and a 26T would it hurt to push it with the 26t? so stoked to do this! thank you for the videos and Jams!!!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Cuz now the stock pinion gears are pressed on to those motors. No set screw, so not really reusable anyway in most cases. You’re welcome and excited for you to try it!!

[@chuckneal5828]

@@DerbyCityRC really weird powered it up this morning not good struggled to go 4feet sounded like gears not meshing properly not smooth at all then it started to smoke and stink unplugged battery let it cool off tried it again and it didnt go at all so something is burned up

[@DerbyCityRC]

Man that stinks. Did/do the wheels spin freely if you just roll it?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Did you use the 22t with mod .6?

[@chuckneal5828]

@@DerbyCityRC Hi Derby! all i could find was a kit that had several gears no22t i used the 26t it sounded like it was stripping ??? luckliy i purchased a 2nd set ESC-Motor drilled out the original 22t to get it on the shaft i used alot of locktite hopefully it is secure gonna try it later today.

[@hawkeyeblackfeet1667]

Where did you get the spur gear?

[@DerbyCityRC]

I got it from Pxtoysrc.com, but honestly sent back to stock plastic and have never broken or stripped one.

[@hawkeyeblackfeet1667]

@@DerbyCityRC thanks 👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

You bet!

[@joshuafreeman9792]

I am a little confused I am getting ready to purchase stuff I have the same HollyTon car will I need something other than the motor and esc

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yes, you need the new pinion gear, and a new remote with reciever. This is the best cheapest remote and reciever I’ve used: amzn.to/3O6MrOf

[@DerbyCityRC]

I haven’t been able to find the same pinion gear I used when I did this for a long time, but this one looks like it should work. amzn.to/3S0yWRg

[@joshuafreeman9792]

Thanks

[@joshuafreeman9792]

I did end up getting a different receiver and motor because the motor was out of stock everywhere . AM I having to change the gear because the shaft is a different size or style for a brushless. I was gonna try and use the original. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP

[@DerbyCityRC]

My shafts I think were the same size, but they switched to the pinion gears being pressed on the motor shaft instead of held on with a set/grub screw. (Maybe you got lucky or they switched back). I just opted for the new pinion. That’s all I remember anyway as this project is around 2 years old lol pressing the gear on the new motor can damage the motor without proper tools for it.

[@CornPopWazABadDude]

Seems like the shocks must absolutely suck or something.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Oh ya they do lol. There’s some good upgrades though.

[@jcj88power]

Yea man! why would you just pull the wheel off??? 😂😂😂

[@DerbyCityRC]

Well this video is almost 3 years old so I don’t know and don’t remember 🤣🤣 I’m sure I had a good reason!! 😂

[@nickwilliams6869]

What is the scale

[@DerbyCityRC]

This is that same type of car. Slightly large 12th scale, but they claim 10th

[@nickwilliams6869]

@@DerbyCityRC did you have to upgrade the battery

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yes! You do have to upgrade the battery. The ones these cars come with will work, but you have to turn the throttle down on the remote, or it will shut off the ESC and not run. Needs a higher C rating.

[@nickwilliams6869]

@@DerbyCityRC i have a bezgar 1/10

[@DerbyCityRC]

Nice! What model is it?

[@josephhernandez9896]

Hey I love Your Channel Brother! I have a quick Question I have a HOLYTON Rc and recently did some Upgrade I got a new motor and installed it with a 13T gear but now the other Main plastic Gear wont turn.. I UPLOADED a Videoo on my channel Was wondering if you can Guidee mee ??

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks bro!! Looks like you have the wrong teeth pitch on your pinion. It needs to be a MOD 0.6, and yours looks like a MOD 1, which is more common. If that’s the 92xxE, then you need a 22T MOD 0.6 gear

[@josephhernandez9896]

@@DerbyCityRC FAST REPLY AND WOW I PLACED THE ORDER ! For the 22t Mod 0.6 gear .. says on the Order it A Steel version you think the Big plastic gear should be fine ? Thanks once again Im Subscribing !!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yup! I have beat the tar out of mine. I’ve broken like every part on my Holytons but my spur gears still look brand new 🤣. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!

[@josephhernandez9896]

@@DerbyCityRC Oh Man haha I scene your videos I can See you have bashed the living hell out of the car having fun with your little boy ! Im on that boat with my son made it our little hobby .. His holyton servo gave out and I bought him a New Traxxas Car but instead of throwing away this Holyton I figured why not upgrade everything and make a little project out of it ha .. Have a great day brother God bless !

[@DerbyCityRC]

Ya man! The ate a good chassis to upgrade, for sure! Glad you like the videos and glad to have you in the hobby!! 🤘😎👍

[@andrew4403]

That thing's a piece of junk. Poor Max can't even drive it without it breaking.😂😂😂