Homage Or Design Theft? Louis Vuitton In Trouble! Even Minister Has To Step In!

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[@DIYTRUTH]

There is a country official calling out the appropriation so I am positive they see something we dont which should be respected. In an age where cultures meet migration equals economic opportunity, corporations are taking advantage of cultural diffusion hoping to achieve the blanket image of "all is good in the world" when in reality these actions are just another facet of age old colonialism. Cultural appropriation is not just an indigenous issue, the word "cultural" refers to all cultural systems and I am glad Romania stood up and voiced their concerns.

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you TeePal 🙏🏻🥹🥰💖

[@DenmarkScandinavia123]

I think Romania is right. Well done that they drew attention to it, this was not inspiration, but a copy . LV does not want others to copy their products

[@SuperDacob]

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[@gabrielapoplacean8632]

This traditional blouse is called in romanian :IE , and is from the region of Sibiu ( Transilvania ) . Everithing including the fabric is handmade and the price ranges between $50 to $200 USD .

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you for the information and for sharing it with us 💖💖💖

[@nataliaobreja9463]

This traditional blouse is hand made on my region called Sibiu, placed in Transylvania. Making them takes a lot of time and knowledge. My grandma used to make them.Let's not forget the material all cotton, linen and wool all made by hand. The cost is between 50 to 200 USD. Actually summer I'm going back to Romania, already ordered a few. BTW Dior did it also with Romania and a few countries in south america.

[@vivienkoles1880]

also with China, I remembe Dior copied an older skirt style 1:1.

[@katcankan7129]

These brands have always stolen from us, we are the catwalk. Designers look at what we are wearing & how we style things. We are the fashion trends 💜

[@algebraist1997]

I think it's fine to be inspired by the design, but like any responsible person or company, they should cite their sources. Now they've been caught, there should be consequences, they can't backtrack and just cite them.

[@celestialblueceleste2511]

I just had a conversation with a Romanian friend who explained how important hand embroidery is for their culture, in apparel and home linens. Apparently Tom Ford did the same type of shirts in Spring 2012 - slightly different styling. I wonder if that's why Romania formed the craft association in 2013? So this time they are calling it out? LV should provide the cultural reference and make a small donation. Next time they should actually collaborate with them. Hand craftmanship in textiles and needlework is a dying art. Who better than these big luxury fashion houses to support these creative arts thus continuing these traditions?

[@TheAlinaCretu]

That shirt has a history of more than 2000 years. Yes thousands. I am from Romania. It is ordinary from a zone named Maramures. It is made out of only natural fibre. That is also 100% handmade.

[@MsLulu-jr4on]

Hii Dacob, please cover Dior scandal in Italy. Horrendous working condition for their factory workers (most people are from China). Allegedly they paid $53 for labor for a bag that they would sell over $2500.

[@SuperDacob]

I have already discussed it weeks ago in one of my livestreams. Here is the link. Enjoy! kzbin.infokotC8jFjZqE?feature=shared

[@MsLulu-jr4on]

You are the best! Thank you! 🫶💗

[@hildakenny513]

Very interesting discussion. In my opinion there is a certain arrogance shown by luxury brands, where they consider that they're bigger and better than everyone else and don't need to take thoughts and feelings of others into consideration.

[@MissYoMaMa]

Yes, and for real why are cowboys not mad at LV…

[@corbbys1]

LVMH uses a factory in Cisnadie, Romania (Transylvania), to make most of its shoes before sending them back to France or Italy wear the soles are added so they can stamp it Made in Italy/France in order to cut costs and maximize shareholder value, and its perfectly legal under EU laws, the workers are paid very little (less than 232 Euros per month), but get weekends off, some overtime pay and the factory uses safer materials and provides a clean/comfortable environment...

[@yvonneburns2786]

I suppose plaid/tartan will be next lol😅

[@Chieftracyhorse]

No one has an original thought/design anymore. Everything is stolen.😔

[@MissYoMaMa]

Very few people ever had an original thought or design in fashion. Fashion is mostly all inspiration. One of my fashion teacher always used the phrase “nothing new under the sun”

[@NakedEyes-lm3bj]

Hi Dacob Please cover the scandal regarding Dior in Italy. Their beautiful handbags 👜 cost a ton. It only costs 53 euro to make. Not surprised 😮

[@SuperDacob]

I have already discussed it weeks ago in one of my livestreams. Here is the link. Enjoy! kzbin.infokotC8jFjZqE?feature=shared

[@ttnajjar1]

All the fashion houses over charge for their products. It is truly becoming obnoxious the price increases.

[@Mami-Florida]

My friend bought that exact bag on this picture and returned back she felt it was too small and not worth the price

[@Ms_EE]

It's an interesting conversation. There is a very fine line between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Interestingly, Pharrell has previously been accused of the former offence via his 2014 Elle UK cover, where he wore a Native American head dress, this is despite the fact he has Native American ancestry.🤔

[@YoTratoYTrato]

Idk, arent there WAY more important things happening in the world other that a designer being inspired by "Ethnic Garb" (and to be clear I am reffering to the Cultural minister's who have issue with this) I may be missing the point, which may be why I dont see it to begin with.. I can see giving credit where its due absolutely, but permission? Idk. Designers get inspired by culture all the time, dont they? Interesting, informative post tho😊

[@Gigi44_Bookworm]

Why can’t brands just bring on or ask to do a partnership or collaboration with the culture/people whose designs they are “inspired by”. Would it be so hard to not have them as a collaborative partner

[@hautepinkrae8084]

I was in the live chats, and I had a different opinion than I do now. I’m so glad that I watched the video over again. I have gone to northern Transylvania and have enjoyed seeing costumes from Romania, the embroidery and the handmade material. Now that I look at the image in your video that is shown Romania Ministry of culture ( I don’t know the name of the group) I totally see the issue. Yes, Romania needs to negotiate with Louis Vuitton, and Louis Vuitton needs to reply and repay in-kind. I’m sure these issues for other cultures will be coming up and it’ll be interesting to see how it is dealt with. Will they hire the cultural peoples to create what is theirs for these fashion companies and be reimbursed for it? Really intense, deep well, conversation thanks Dacob and for really diving into this.

[@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800]

The problem is modern fashion doesn’t have any grounding in reality. It’s all fantasy. So designers mine authentic garb and folkloric costume as well as religious habits to bring a sense of history and veneration to what would be frivolity. They also extol the history of the design house to try and bring some weight to their designs. Most of the ideas are whimsical and very very quickly thrown together, so they have to reach back to history or folklore or religion or the past designs of their own brand to try to make the clothes more important.

[@anonymous-uo7cb]

Should Italy start suing all artists small and large for all their culture appropriation? France too? Because there's tens millions of people who appropriate those cultures every day, and have been for decades. I can't imagine a good outcome if Romania and others start playing this ridiculous game.

[@stefaniaadina8992]

Please name 1 item of traditional French or Italian clothing that was copied/appropriated by any other culture. Any region of these 2 countries.

[@IceCream-hp7mm]

Yeah this is not inspired, it’s a replica, same thing happened with Dior a few season ago and a jacket from another European group. What annoys me is if a small brand or group did this as blatantly (allegedly) they would come guns blazing.

[@LiaAndrews]

They are completely missing an opportunity. Let Louis make the style popular and then there is your artisan storefront with better quality, variety, and cheaper prices. This is a win. Also, mixing cultural elements is fun.

[@lublu3991]

Great analysis! Super job!

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you lublu 🙏🏻💖

[@ellenmerkle940]

Why should luxury brand, or any brand, justify their prices? I have an item that I want to sell for $1 million, and somebody out there is willing Buy it, why should I have to validate the price? Specially you could say non-life essential luxury product. What am I missing here?

[@merrywalsh2809]

Oh wow, almost a direct copy. I was getting ready to poo poo the idea, but then we see the photo, a direct copy. Not cool.

[@moremiaj4786]

Many prominent design houses stopped designing since the 60's; just copying styles from the early 19th and 20th century and changing colors or lenght.

[@ttnajjar1]

I am late to the party. But, I am happy that Romania is standing up to their culture. LVMH needs to be called out, the ego of this company is becoming way too big. I am supporting Romania on this one.

[@Tonya05]

I would def buy that blouse! It is stunning and after you showed the group picture I loved the whole look. BUT! Yeah, LV needs to apologize and pull it from the line. And from AB Fab it was Bubbles who said they should use flowers 😂❤

[@Robbie_LeMeow]

I feel that there is a LOT of clothing out there that is inspired by National costumes. Peasant dresses, blouses, etc. I sew, so I see patterns and fabrics often. But this is pretty specific. Just acknowledge the source. Like Dior did when they released the collection inspired by Mexico and Frida Kahlo. Several years ago, Michael Kors had a long white dress that was clearly inspied by a tradtional Mexican wedding dress. I even have a pattern to make one. The originals are much prettier though. ❤

[@switchhiter69]

It's a beautiful blouse and I appreciate the reference to the original Romanian design. It should be a no brainer to credit inspiration but to have to ask for permission and negotiate the use of something that you are inspired by is silly. We live in a world of copyright laws but things that have been with us for hundreds or thousands of years are not copyrighted. We should be able to take inspiration from people and cultures without instantly needing to scream "cultural appropriation". This is frankly more of a reflection of our over active cancel culture. Just my opinion of course and I really enjoyed the time and thought given to this video and topic.

[@karentracy9657]

Insane. Can’t stop laughing.

[@user-lz2ii2ev7f]

Well heck I have a blouse similar to that from Free People. My blouse is over 8 years old. Oh Wow go figure. They should give credit for sure. I can safely say they will not compensate them though cause everyone will be coming for them for past collections etc. I am so tired of these lazy brands. I went to the LV site and did not see it so guess they took it down. Bad PR with the Dior bag scandal..I’m sure they do not want any more negative press. Additionally I noticed they have all these t-shirts with chains attached to them. Such a copy …..and they really leaned in on this. so lazy…….they will not get my hard earned coins for sure on this BS. My two cents

[@Rapscallion0421]

Study the history of fashion people - all fashion has been a mixture of original ideas & ideas from other cultures - it's not appropriation it's inspiration. Let's face it who before all this fuss had even heard of Romanian blouses? Haven't they thought that by a global fashion house highlighting the craft it may actually help their industry? If not and it is appropriation then Scotland can expect to receive money anytime tartan is used, England when tweed is used, Japan when anything resembling a kimono is used etc etc....

[@jeanettenfreeland1408]

Hey Dacob how are you?? Your the best

[@SuperDacob]

Hi Jeanette 💖 I am well. Hole you are too 🌅

[@jeanettenfreeland1408]

@@SuperDacob I am good I have a beautiful cat named Milo and he is a 2 year old brown cat

[@jlee8615]

Make LV pay

[@thunter8718]

Just laziness on LV part to not have done their research. Unreal to think nobody in the entire organization failed to see that to copy this costume would be an issue.

[@MMM-ii7ce]

That shirt looks so out of place. It’s not cohesive with their other designs in the collection. I don’t mind them getting inspiration but I don’t appreciate LV coping the same exact shirt

[@wearethenewmalearmy1399]

not appropriation. its not a copy. notice the front of the ladies tops and all the black lives. the lv one doesn't have that. plus, if you google image la blouse roamaine you will not see one of the tops they say have been ripped off. the top in question may be similar to the one sold in romaine, but is not a copy. its just similar. it would be like spain going after Madonna cuz she wore a matador jacket made by givency. its like i mean, really? may as well saying non french cant buy lv.

[@SuperDacob]

Oh dear… you missed the mark by a light year… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@wearethenewmalearmy1399]

@@SuperDacob no, we have a small design label trying to sell their rags by saying that lv ripped them off. its like saying edwin jeans must ask levis for permission to make jeans. its just a style. probabilmente non sai nianche a cucire. non che niente di nuovo nel mondo do moda.

[@marvinjuliusmag-aso1137]

Hello i love this none chanel news you have. Pls discuss the dior scandal in italy.

[@SuperDacob]

I have already discussed it weeks ago in one of. my livestreams. Here is the link. Enjoy! kzbin.infokotC8jFjZqE?feature=shared

[@marvinjuliusmag-aso1137]

@@SuperDacob thank u so much!

[@thomasosullivan2285]

Cultural appropriation is presently an ethical and moral issue. It is not illegal to be "creatively inspired" by the traditional designs of miscellaneous cultures. Even if that amounts to a blatant ripoff. Yes LV should credit the inspirational source, to its customers for this product. I don't see that the LV blouse is an exact copy of any of the Romanian blouses. Elements of the Romanian blouses have been copied, sure. I'm not defending what LV did. I'm discussing what is a legal issue, counterfeit. LV copied lots of Native American design in the recent cowboy collection.

[@yvonneburns2786]

You mean Bubbles from Abfab

[@Dandan-km1vq]

Uhhhh and remember the EGYPTIAN LINE

[@garssympa500]

Vuitton fashion is so unattractive! How many people are going to buy this shirt anyway? Especially with the puffy sleeves which is right out of pirate fashion! Which pirate association should we all pay rights to for puffy sleeves? I am against all this cultural appropriation BS. It's not stealing. It's a question of the creative spirit being influenced by. The whole western art canon is based on one motif from one country influencing the next generation. It's how we move forward.

[@anonymous-uo7cb]

My guess- the designer has never once in their life even paid attention to Romania, let alone seen a fashion picture from it. The blouse is a typical beach shirt you can find at any tourist surf shop and they made it in a black & white color combo because that IS the most common color combo on the planet. It's not that deep.

[@stefaniaadina8992]

If this would have been copied from Indian, Native American or any other non-white culture all the internet would be in uproar to the sky. If it's white on white f.. them: beach blouse. If it's just your typical beach blouse why did they take the embroidery pattern and the placement of it? Why not place it horizontally? Why not other pattern. Considering that they have factories in the exact same area that be blouse comes from I highly doubt is just an innocent coincidence. You have any idea how the "beach blouse" is constructed? Somebody said pirate shirt. IT has NOTHING to do in actual construction with a pirate shirt but well, when you're ignorant and disrespectful it doesn't matter you trample thousands of years of tradition

[@GhislaineBeauce]

Yikes, I'm surprised Jean Paul Gaultier hasn't been done for cultural appropriation yet.

[@SuperDacob]

Those were the 90’s… other morals in Europe back then.

[@jewelt247]

Cultural appropriation usually refers to Europeans appropriating cultural elements of Native Non-European peoples. Louis Vuitton is an European company so maybe they thought they had a pass, as Romanian culture is also considered European. There are many cultures with peasant blouses in Europe and the Americas. The colors and design, however are spot-on. He needs to negotiate. I will also say in this Diverse world, many people with European ancestry are told to check their privilege. We need to respect art and culture, not just ones that need the quotas.

[@SuperDacob]

Europe is a unity of many different countries and many different cultures. Hence one country and its culture from Europe can be guilty of appropriating another European country’s culture. You seriously didn’t know that? 😩

[@gillgul]

To me, it doesn't look the same and I'm honestly sick and tired of this terms of culture appropriation, everybody takes from everybody

[@ladycrystalr-u.s.a]

I think that all claims of cultural appropriation are a joke. Absolutely ridiculous. Actual design theft is a different matter.......

[@danishpastry6137]

So, copying a specific traditional cultural design isn't design theft?

[@dflowers1477]

So over the “copy me make me a victim” attitude. What happened to looking at this as the highest form of compliment? We’ve made victimhood cool, apparently.

[@Satine_Moisant]

At first I was all, "...Yeah, this all BS, Romania." After seeing the actual version, their point IS valid!! It's almost identical.

[@harryavery5313]

The slang term you used for Native Americans at 1:37 is pretty antiquated and offensive. May want to remove it from your vocabulary go forward!! 😅😘

[@SuperDacob]

Thats how they referred the collection as being. I was pointing out how offensive the collection was to me by using the offensive lingo… if you were able to read between the lines… always shooting the messenger huh?

[@DenmarkScandinavia123]

@harryavery5313 you must be joking, right?