Home Lab CHALLENGE ft. Raid Owl - Part 1

[@m3lv1lle]

This has a beautiful and nostalgic scrapyard wars vibe but its about homelabs instead of Gaming PCs. I love it, please make it a series.

[@Jangue]

Yes plsssssssss 😊

[@MADBONE0]

Dude 😮 this may be better then scrapyard wars 🤩🤩🤩 Called it 😱

[@SimRacingFanDK]

yaaah i agree, i miss scrapyard wars on another wellknown channel :D

[@0xKruzr]

absolutely. gotta get Jeff G, Patrick from STH, Jeff from Craft Computing, that whole crowd in on this.

[@questionablecommands9423]

+1

[@Yaktany]

110% would choose the one week crunch ^^" it's hard to build something if not all rules are known and some are so alternating the system. Like the 75W it made the whole 1st week effort "worthless" for the final system. So like you did week 1-3 flipping stuff to increase the budget and week 4 for the final system :D

[@lucaspagote3042]

Please, make this a recurring thing, I'd love to see one of these at least once every 4 months

[@MADBONE0]

6 months ❤❤❤ much easier to do

[@mini-pouce]

A year with charity or local association should be enougth.

[@ManuelBarner]

a "yearly" budget challenge would be nice.

[@Xamy-]

4 months is too short.

[@InboundG]

It’s the scrapyard wars of home labing 😂

[@danielwhitney7018]

This reminds me a lot of scrap yard wars. Good job!

[@HardwareHaven]

That was definitely an inspiration

[@airman_85uk]

In bios the CPU actually runs at full clock speed that's why it draws more power than in proxmox

[@HardwareHaven]

Yeah, that was definitely something I had never noticed or thought of until doing this challenge lol

[@ChristopherBletzinger]

I got SO excited when you showed that WD NAS listing. That was what I got for my first homelab experiments a year ago and I was looking forward to watching you go through the same struggles that I did! WOULD NOT RECOMMEND

[@fierce134]

The pain for both guys on Spin #2 was absolutely hilarious! Loving the first part of this, and looking forward to Part 2

[@JeffGeerling]

Oh no you two parted it! Now I can't know until the next video is out, can't wait 😅

[@HardwareHaven]

Trying to get this into one video would’ve been nuts! My first rough edit was like 45 minutes long 😅

[@JeffGeerling]

@@HardwareHaven Heh, to you who are about to edit (again), we salute you.

[@AmericanBeanz_]

Your Channel is seriously underrated, You produce very professional, fun and engaging content. Would love to see more challenges like this in the future, as a fellow tinkerer I love the junkyard aspect to this.

[@KrzysztofLetki]

Scrapyard wars but for homelab junkies, I'm in ❤

[@ElementalITcc]

Love this series. Very interested to see what you come up with.

[@hachikiina]

i really like this concept. sucks that you got the 75w penalty! may the best second hand hardware juggler win

[@boostaddict_]

I got a TP-Link Archer AX10 for $15 yesterday. It's the new access point for my $30 HP mini pc OPNsense router. Gigabit ethernet, 1.5Gb Wifi 6. Have another HP mini pc with better specs running Truenas Scale and Plex, that was $60. Running a D-Link 5 port switch for now, DIY rack made of lego technic since I have a bunch. I think I'm doing pretty well on the budget front lol. Wouldn't fit your rules but it's been serving me extremely well.

[@CraftComputing]

Don't make me come over there.....

[@HardwareHaven]

Bring beer and hardware if you do

[@CraftComputing]

@@HardwareHaven Deal 😀

[@sedrosken831]

I was running a modded DX4000 myself as my combination NAS/home server up until about 6 months ago when I finally got the spare parts together to build something much beefier and more capable of running as a general-purpose virtualization host. The CPU and relative lack of RAM really do hold it back, but as an option that I got for literally free (albeit with 2TB less storage than you were looking at) it was not a bad deal. Having to solder the leads for the TTL serial connection was annoying, and mine had a bug with the UEFI where it would keep trying to boot a copy of Windows that didn't exist, so I had to hack mine with an autoexec.nsh dropped in the EFI system partition for when it'd inevitably drop to the UEFI shell so it could then chainload GRUB.

[@darkpalidin]

This is an awesome series. Definitely want to see more. I agree with some of the other comments saying to have a set of rules to start, then different ones to spin after that initial week. Maybe spin twice for that first setup, and one spin per week after?

[@HardwareHaven]

Appreciate the input!

[@NicolasAgostini-Nico]

Cool video. Learned a lot of things. Quick tip: turn your 270° monitor to 90° instead (flip it around). In my experience we have better contrast when looking a monitor from up or head on, instead of from the bottom like your current setup. Keep pushing awesome content like this one.

[@Hazmatguy117]

So glad worlds are colliding, you always put out some solid DIY stuff that is genuinely entertaining. Hope your channel keeps growing!

[@allenellisdewitt]

Meeting at a courthouse is a great idea

[@artemisa81]

This was such a fun video, we need more of these in youtube

[@Mbro-dq2do]

I Love the premise of this video. Well done fellas

[@terrorpup]

Damn, I wish I could have gotten into it. I do a lot of e-recycle, I love that my half rack of gear is 100% recycle. My second homelas is 90% SBC and that should make the under 75W. I am running a good bit. Love to see this over the next couple of the weeks.

[@xanderlander8989]

This reminds me of scrap yard wars! I'd recommend bringing a Jackery or 300-600W inverter for powering on a PC before you buy it.

[@GabrielM01]

i love this type of content, challenges where both parties have rules and have to make their way around some problem, this episode, scrap wars in LTT and the Linux Challenge are some good examples of content youtube should be made of

[@naylo44]

Scrapyard wars, but for homelab? HEELLLLL YEAH

[@JonathanTalksHW]

Not bad! I’m stoked to see the final results!!

[@garrettchurch6036]

This is such a good one! Hope you do more of these in the future! Keep up the good work!

[@VitisCZ]

When you're just at the bios screen most CPUs don't do any sort of dynamic reclocking and just sit at base clock and also don't enter sleep states. That is why you get 80W in bios but then around 50W booted up because all the power saving features are properly set up once booted.

[@bokami3445]

I like this challenge! Good luck to both of you and looking forward to seeing how this works out. I'd even go so far as to making this a regular thing say every 6 months with different goals.

[@AdroSlice]

I love the wheel idea, but I really think the spins should be frontloaded, and it should be possible to win without completing these objectives. They should be seen as bonus targets, not requirements.

[@jessericlem7717]

Ooooowo I wanna see the next series! It's stuff i love😂

[@AnthonyWay-vk4kl]

We have to get this thing going as a series

[@vasyaserkin]

Those home light shots are great, love this

[@jacobnoori]

This is the type of content I love to watch!

[@rohanthorat1409]

Need more of this series. I'm hooked!

[@RightLeftCenter]

Kinda crazy seeing El Reno and Yukon on tech KZbin, love you man

[@HardwareHaven]

Someone’s gotta represent OK, haha!

[@darrenhutchinson3071]

Super awesome idea and execution, cant wait for the next parts!

[@sinnful0]

we are ready for part 2

[@partyheartyboy]

Hi there. Subscribed to both channels! Love these types of videos! Keep it up! Thanks.

[@TradersTradingEdge]

Great idea and super fun to watch. Well done guys!

[@camaycama7479]

THIS... is a crunchy concept. Guys, push it!

[@carlschiel4754]

My Homelab cost $210 without it being a challenge. $160 for a used Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny with an I7-7700T and 256GB NVME. Added 32gb Ram for $50. Running Proxmox like a champ

[@joshua_lee732]

You also have the benefit of patience and time.

[@Scarsuna]

@@joshua_lee732 Cheapest system is going to be 3-5 years after purchase. Companies dump their gear to recyclers after warranties expire. Recyclers shred the hard drive and salvage the rest.

[@SmokinGoodd420]

Love my boston terrier too!! 💚💚💚

[@TheGumpyGump]

The weekly wheel spins basically make this nearly impossible until you do that final spin, as evidenced by the 2nd spin.

[@CaptainJRW]

Awesome - some quality entertainment here! Best of luck with that 75W limit....

[@Connorplayer123]

I had $0 to make a homelab and I will be reviewing it tomorrow!!

[@jdmontes_me]

I'm at 0:50 and i'm predicting that at least 1/2 of the budget will be Storage

[@thewoodsarecalling8382]

That 70w limit was brutal with the xeon. This was fun!

[@STEFKOUNGR]

I love the idea ! I am still watching but i love them !

[@HomeBudgetComputing]

The overdramitization is annoying, but it's an interesting challenge. I'm interested to see what the results are. Not sure what your rules are, but I'd be hitting up Goodwill/Salvation Army thrift stores and asking friends if they have anything laying around collecting dust. I'm also curious what constitutes a "home lab" for this competition. A home lab can easily be a server with 2 VMs and a pfSense box. That's a legitimate home lab since you can really play and learn a lot with just those 2 items. Kind of nice that you can use things you have sitting around (I can find a listing for all my spare parts, even if it's not common). I have a stack of drives and SSDs, several power supplies, and 5 or 6 full (older) PCs that could easily run Linux, and even some spare RAM.

[@CollynPlayz]

Goodwills and salvations in my area have nothing but overpriced clothes and ewaste

[@funnyhats1839]

Maybe move away from HDD's and towards SSD's would help with staying under the 75-watt power limit. Spinning drives take a surprising amount of power.

[@notfunny3397]

If sleep mode and general reliability isn't a huge concern, you could maybe have considered a Chinese x99 motherboard. Like currently you can get the machinist mr9a (non pro) for 60usd. Only 4 sata3 ports which isn't great, but the pcie options are good. This board for example has 2 x16 CPU connected slots, 1 4x CPU connected slot as the highest pcie slot, 2 nvme slots, 1 one of which is connected to CPU. Plus another x1 chipset slot. Shipping times might be long if they don't have a warehouse near you, but it is what it is ig. It can use ECC or normal ram, and cpus cost as little as 2 dollars

[@tvojejbabkydedko]

i am pretty sure that jeff will be the judge

[@TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha]

Setups on Budget, the first thing I say then is: what do you wanna achieve? Because often I get that nonsense like „I want to get a very powerful gaming machine“ and there the budget also was often just 200 bucks. And that simply won’t work! I don’t want to give people unrealistic expectations where they throw their small budget out the window for things that won’t achieve what they want.

[@Skyspace187]

Man, if you could use some 3D Prints, I've found most of the Mid-Tower Dell Optiplex computers you can print up a 4-6 drive internal cage, on top of the 5.25 already available. You'd have to replace the PSU, but I've built several this way and it's been great!

[@mcsquared920]

Coming late but this is dope. For the Add $10 on the wheel spin, might be interesting to change it to Add $10 and spin again. That way you get the reward but can still get a constraint to play with.

[@AkosLukacs42]

Plan for next episode: spec a system that fulfills all criteria, and in the meantime buy & sell stuff so you easily end up with much more than 200$ 😅

[@HardwareHaven]

I wish it was that easy lol

[@FartNinja-xx7zq]

Mexican nas, some guy named Pablo just holding your drives

[@mateo_onesey]

I get the sneaking suspicion that no where Oklahoma is near I-35 cause I swear I have driven under that underpass

[@brahyamalmonteruiz9984]

so scrapyard wars homelab edition and super low budget with a sprinkle of randomness, seems pretty cool!

[@HardwareHaven]

Yes. You get it haha

[@TheCreat]

For the given budget I honestly think some of the wheel items are just a bit extreme. So while those add intrigue and/or suspense, if the goal is to show "look what you can do with 200$" it's kinda detrimental to that kind of goal.

[@HardwareHaven]

I feel ya, but the goal was to have fun. I never said this was a $200 home lab buying guide, because it’s DEFINITELY not lol

[@Jeyashree-chan]

I guess the judge will be Jeff gerling

[@HardwareHaven]

Good guess!

[@ScottMosier12345]

I have a Dell t3600 running at my feet right now (was ProxMox, now VMware). Small world.

[@pandapip1]

Do shipping costs count when you find a listing for an item you have at home and decide to use?

[@HardwareHaven]

Yep 👍🏻

[@subhangmokkarala]

So I think mryeester is judge ?

[@HardwareHaven]

Lol

[@DavidJones-pi8rl]

Blast, if I had only known, I could have sold one of my old QNAP's!

[@artursmihelsons415]

This one is cool change! 🎉👍 Great idea!

[@MADBONE0]

Dude 😮 this may be better then scrapyard wars 🤩🤩🤩 Called it 😱

[@questionablecommands9423]

9:26 Dang, man. That's a good looking jacket. You recall where you got it?

[@NicksStuff]

I think you should both have the same constraints

[@casey1027]

There is an actual place called Nowhere, Oklahoma...

[@HardwareHaven]

Yup, and that would've been a shorter drive, haha

[@ewenchan1239]

What is the definition of "best" that you guys have settled on? With a 75 W power budget, it REALLY depends on what you're going to be running. You can get a fair bit done with a RockChip ARM based SBC as you can cram a LOT of services containers onto Proxmox for that power and processor budget.

[@jacobwhogivesadamn1893]

I wish the wheel spins were before buying things

[@HardwareHaven]

Yeah if we do this again we’ll probably make tweaks. Thanks for the input 👍🏻

[@dakiletsplay16]

Not sure how that rule works but, Now whoever gets the only 1 computer is screwed either 1 pc with 75w power or a off the shell nas that works as a home lab too?

[@antoniocheca]

Love this challenge video!

[@stuckndema]

This is the series I've been waiting for! Great job man! Didn't realize you were in OK! Check out Oklahoma Electronics Recycling in Edmond!

[@HardwareHaven]

Cool, thanks! I've looked before for recycling places but never found that.

[@nag975]

Off topic question : What speakers are you using on you main system? Thank you

[@ronaldhofman1726]

I have a mini pc with onlu uses 15 watts , has 1 TB SSD and 16 GB ram and use windows and hyper-V , usb Ethernet fot multiple vlans for hyper-v switch and works like a charm.

[@PaladinLostHour]

So what we learned today was do not mention what you do not from the wheel before you spin it.

[@HardwareHaven]

Exactly. Lol

[@la.m240i6]

I like this, it reminds me of scrapyard wars

[@Napert]

quick unrelated question regarding smb when copying files from one folder to another on the same share why is windows a whole lot faster than linux? on windows i'm consistently getting 300 mb/s and sometimes even over 600 mb/s , but on linux i'm getting 30-40 mb/s i'm running a normal 1gbe connection between my pc and nas

[@repairstudio4940]

Funny I just watched Brett's upload too. He got it rough haha 😂

[@HardwareHaven]

He really did..

[@SpoonHurler]

As someone who may have spent 200 bucks on just fans for a build... this seems impossible 😂

[@HardwareHaven]

Hahaha nice

[@userunfriendly9304]

could you take apart a ugreen battery and fit it inside of a laptop for a performance comparison?

[@JackyTran]

At 6:16, what’s the dashboard on the top screen?

[@mne36]

What display do you use under your monitor?

[@thespencerowen]

I love this competition

[@lfcbpro]

Hey Raid Owl, what are this weeks lottery numbers??? You obviously can see the future when it comes to drawings :))))))))

[@MW-cs8zd]

So is it "raid haven" or hardware owls" now? I like hardware owls as a podcast name

[@HardwareHaven]

Raid haven sounds cool, but hardware owls just sound adorable

[@EagleSightLabs]

I see that the Bluray drive is a RW drive. If you still got that available I might be willing to take that off your hands.

[@noth606]

12:00 Liking this, kinda close to what I'm doing except I have no hard budget limit other than my meager means, and my T5810 had 1x 1Tb drive in it, not two. So far I've only gotten to the CPU *growing* to a E5 2683v3, next item that has to grow is RAM because it's only got 32Gb which doesn't fly very far in terms of virtualized servers. Minimum need 4x32Gb added. I also intend to chuck in a quad M.2 SSD card populated with whatever I can get a decent deal on, but first I need a monitor and a GPU. Some sad SOB stole the GPU out of it, some old ass Quadro something. Which will be replaced most likely by some other old ass Quadro. The only funny thing about the GPU is that neither me nor the seller bothered to figure out what it actually was before it got stolen, and it wasn't what was in it per the service tag. Tag has it as an M4000, pics of the interior show a physically smaller card with a different sort of cooler, not the thin long black slab that is an M4000.

[@fxgamer-11yt]

THAT IS A C310 BASED CHIPSET SO ITS V1 V2 E5 CPUS AND SO FORTH FOR THE LGA 2011 PLATFORM the t5630 is v3/4

[@HardwareHaven]

No amount of caps lock will change the fact that the Dell precision 5810 is 2011-3. Do you think I faked it posting and showing a e5-1620-V3?

[@dukeseb]

Sweet and unexpected episode

[@izPanda_]

Would love to see a series of this without the wheel spin. I understand the entertainment value added but I would also like to see what an unconstrained $200 could do

[@haplo2570]

seeing a home lab built for just 200 was gonna be intresting, seeing a homelab built for 300+ upwards, not quite so. would say it kinda goes against the spirit if you can just wheeler dealer till you have enough to do what you want

[@lewd6764]

Pretty sure with the weekly spin rules in there, there is just impossible to do this challenge without selling anything, really Through having the exact money you buy return to the budget after the sales, that is more "fair"

[@Coldfirebe]

I like the idea ! But ...not so much the wheel or at least what's on it. I think it would be more fun if the wheel had software or use case requirements. For eg: must have home automation systems with x sensors, add routing functionality, everything has to be encrypted including in transit,...would show more then just the hardware but also the way you would tackle home lab ideas

[@lewd6764]

Through in my opinion, the 75W limit is just the force ARM options renamed Why? The only things that i can think to get 75W power for a server homelab that isn't ARM is some small motherboard, a J4125, SSD and a breakout power plug (i don't actually remember what that power thing called) that get power from a laptop bricks. Yeah, that would cost somewhere like 350+ bucks and have some bulls*** performance, so that really leave you with ARM as an options

[@HardwareHaven]

I don’t think so… something like the HP elitedesk 800 G3 mini I’ve used quite a bit recently only draws like 41W at full tilt.

[@AdHdEntertainmentLLC]

just watched Brett's

[@husamrabie8816]

am sure that u will nail it 😅 .. Go man .. i wish u the best 🎉