Home Networking: 100TB 10Gbit Server - Installing Proxmox and basic ZFS tutorial

[@IntermitTech]

Let me know what you think guys! I have some more videos planned, but ideas and subjects are always welcome. :)

[@MrPaulAR]

Faster way to remove the partition table is 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1'

[@ntrl78]

thx for your videos. but quest: why zfs? not btrfs? in my case proxmox 5 in zfs sometime crashed server on xeon e3 with 32gb ecc ram. every month system is kernel panic (

[@IntermitTech]

@@ntrl78 Hmm, I've been running ZFS for over 6 years on lots of machines (including Proxmox installs) never had a kernel panic before! But why ZFS vs BTRSFS, I've just worked with ZFS a lot more, like a lot of the principles and relate to how it works well. BTRFS is ok too, but some parts still seem immature where ZFS matured quite quickly. But in the end it's preference I guess?

[@IntermitTech]

@@MrPaulAR True true, but I thought I'd show a "polite" way to do it. ;)

[@JoshuSonawane]

Nice video on proxmox. If you get a time, please make video on lxc containers on proxmox

[@kallan2255]

Liked and subscribed. Simple video, well put together with good audio, video and screen captures. No waffle but still going into enough depth to understand why you're doing what you're doing.

[@ChazBword]

What an amazing video. This was so well done and organized and it made my intro to Proxmox very easy to get into. Thank you for doing this.

[@isbestlizard]

oh that's awesome it's talking to regular debian repos! that means EVERYTHING is available :D

[@ademkollari8992]

This video was clear, useful and well-organised, it answered quite a few questions, over which I almost gave up on Proxmox. Thank you.

[@JeroenvandenBerg82]

I'm more of a VMware guy, but Proxmox has been improved at lot since the last time I looked at it. Maybe I have to switch my lab....

[@victorbart]

I will watch tomorrow :D Have a good night :D

[@esgalvan]

Great video! I'll try ZFS and Proxmox on my new home server, thanks!

[@nicolasp5288]

El tipo es un grosso impecable, felicitaciones por estar bien explicado el tutorial!!! Muchas gracias

[@crisvangeel]

Don't forget to install the qemu-guest-agent. Thanks for the tip on the apt update!

[@DrDingus]

What does that do?

[@JoebDragon]

@@DrDingus it's like vmware tools

[@michaelnichelson3423]

This video earned my subscription. Keep up the good work. Very helpful and in-depth explanation. Learned a lot from the video.

[@wayland7150]

I used this video 2 years ago when I first set up Proxmox. I'm doing another this week but with a TrueNAS VM inside.

[@itsRems]

Oh no... I just installed proxmox yesterday and struggled with it, went with the only thing that worked. I'll make sure to follow your tutorial next time :D

[@IntermitTech]

Maybe my tutorial can help or explain with some of the stuff your struggled with! It can be hard doing stuff for the first time without a good guide. :)

[@itsRems]

Intermit.Tech Yup! I googled stuff a bit but couldn't find anything detailed but your tutorial definitely seems complete. I'll probably reinstall everything when installing the 10gb/s network :). Keep up the good work!

[@linuxkidd]

Just found your channel -- love the content. Wanted to share a bit of command-line foo for clearing disks as the manual method is tedious and error prone. Instead, try this loop: `for i in $(ls /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG* | grep -ev part[0-9]$); do parted -s $i mklabel gpt; done` You can change the /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG part as necessary to match the disks you want to clear. The '-s' option on parted tells it to run in script mode -- no interactive confirmations. The 'mklabel gpt' causes it to generate a new, empty gpt partition table ( thus, clearing the existing partitions ). Thanks again!

[@itx777]

As always, interesting and enjoyable video :) Thanks!

[@George-zm4iu]

ZFS Guide for clearing partitions worked for me on my NVME drive

[@andres.gregori]

excelent video !! thank you !!

[@augurseer]

Loving this video series

[@SyberPrepper]

Very well done as usual. Thanks.

[@drizer4real]

goed bezig gast !

[@vaning5175]

At around minute 4:00, If the current drives are in ext4 format, and I'd like to change them all to ZFS for Proxmox installation. Do I need to erase and format them before during the installation? Or this instruction step will auto erase and reformat it?

[@motococation2429]

Great video!

[@ricardo-sf]

thanks for the great video -- easy to follow

[@augustoa45]

Well explained and succinct, congrats! But I still have some newbie questions: When installing proxmox you have to setup your network adapter and ip settings. You said it would work best on a static ip, but the details were beyond this video. Do you have any tutorial to make it static? And how do I identify the adapter to use and which settings?

[@markstanchin1692]

What do you do when you what to reinstall but you had already installed zfs mirror on the boot devices? How do you wipe the mirrored boot devices so that you can reinstall? Thanks.

[@silverismoney]

Question for you, I use proxmox to run a NAS VM. On that VM I pass through my disks as VirtIO disks and then I run ZFS on the NAS VM. Would it be better to setup a zfs pool on proxmox and just create a virtual disk for the NAS VM to use? or would it be better to do it the way i'm doing it by passing the disks through to the VM and then setting up ZFS on the VM ? Thanks.

[@mharding1258]

Thank you sir!

[@markstanchin1692]

Hi I installed prox with the same configuration pretty much as you but I end up with three partitions on each of the boot SSDs that I have mirrored. BIOS boot , EFI , and ZFS. Is that how yours looks or did I do something wrong? Also under usage it shows partitions instead of ZFS like yours does. Thanks

[@Jonasstorm1]

Hey Intermit guy :) At first, thanks for the tutorials. I have self been using ProxMox a couple of years now. But I have never found a proper solution for replacing my FreeNas server. Mainly because I need a way to share some of my files over FTP and SAMBA. And if you have a idea on how to encrypt the ZFS disks on ProxMox. Will be nice if you want to make a tutorial about it. I am looking forward to see what you have in mind for the next video :)

[@IntermitTech]

I'm looking at building something for SFTP and Samba. I just want a container with a backend bind mount or something, but that doesn't really seem to exist. There is the turnkey file server but that doesn't seem to get frequent updates anymore. So, still looking, when I find it I will certainly share! Isn't encryption included in the newest ZOL? Haven't really looked into that yet.

[@Jonasstorm1]

​@@IntermitTech Nice I appreciate that. I have seen a tutorials on how to setup a SAMBA directly in the proxmox but I would like to have a GUI to setup SAMBA users. Link for the forum: forum.level1techs.com/t/how-to-create-a-nas-using-zfs-and-proxmox-with-pictures/117375

[@frank_bastelt]

Very good - thank you.

[@yourpcmd]

The commands to update Proxmox is not listed on your blog.

[@chrismallia29]

First, great video you really explain things well. I use ubuntu server with ZFS and docker containers, The only show stopper for me using proxmox is that I couldn't find an efficient way to let the VMS use the zfs pool created on proxmox.

[@SubjectXXX]

Can you elaborate on this? There is a way, but its not efficient beacuse?

[@chrismallia29]

@@SubjectXXX I do not want to mount the ZFS pool using a network share, Do you have a better way to mount directories to a VM?

[@mazingerzeta2xx788]

Hello , this is great stuff, but i have this error while trying to do a mirror raid - command '/sbin/zpool create -o 'ashift=12' MazingerData mirror /dev/sdb /dev/sdd' failed: exit code 1

[@mazingerzeta2xx788]

NM iI was able to correct the error, i got my ZFS created

[@mazingerzeta2xx788]

I got it now onde of the disk had an error so i had to override with -f - here is my pool, () # /sbin/zpool create -o ashift=12 MazingerData mirror /dev/sdb /dev/sdd invalid vdev specification use '-f' to override the following errors: /dev/sdb contains a filesystem of type 'ext4' TASK ERROR: command '/sbin/zpool create -o 'ashift=12' MazingerData mirror /dev/sdb /dev/sdd' failed: exit code 1

[@IntermitTech]

Yeah, best to clear the disks first. Also why didn't you use /dev/disk/by-id like I showed?

[@mazingerzeta2xx788]

@@IntermitTech I did,

[@alejandrogonzalezcolin4475]

Thanks for the video. I have 3 Proxmox nodes, each with a hard disk (on each disk I installed proxmox so I don't have any more disks available). How is it possible to configure shared storage between nodes? would it be necessary to do it with partitions? or are there other methods?

[@IntermitTech]

Lots of different ways you can go there. Easiest would be using ZFS replication, that way you can send snapshots of a VM for instance every 15 minutes to the other host. This is a feature in Proxmox. True shared storage can be done with Gluster or CEPH in Proxmox. Gluster is easy and lightweight to setup but doesn't support snapshotting VM's on it, CEPH is a bit heaver but does support that and I haven't finished all my testing yet in what I would recommend in that regard. But setting up HA with ZFS replication could be a nice start? That way you can use the existing pool on the disk and just create a dataset in ZFS which you use for that. Hope this helps, I know it's a lot to take in!

[@alejandrogonzalezcolin4475]

@@IntermitTech It really is just the information I needed! I've been asking in forums and youtube for days, apparently nobody dominates the subject haha. Thank you very much, I will subscribe to the channel! One last doubt ... when installing Proxmox, I chose the EXT4 format on the hard drive. To create the ZFS replication you are talking about, do I have to install proxmox again on my nodes but now choose the ZFS format?

[@IntermitTech]

@@alejandrogonzalezcolin4475 Ah yes, that feature relies on some ZFS mechanics so you will need to be running that as your disk format. I'm planning on doing a video about it sometime in the future, not sure when yet!

[@alejandrogonzalezcolin4475]

@@IntermitTech Excellent thanks! :) In this event I will proceed with these suggestions. One last question ... By instilling again and choosing ZFS allows us to choose different types of RAID. If I only have 1 Hard Disk on each node, should I configure RAID0 or even if no more disks appear, should I choose RAID1?

[@IntermitTech]

@@alejandrogonzalezcolin4475 It don't think it really matter honestly. But to be safe, chose RAID1. But with ZFS running on a single disk you can always add a disk later on and make it a true mirror. :)

[@JuanaHMelo]

Quick question about ZFS and RAID. My mobo has already a RAID controller as well I have an LSI SAS controller, in this case, if I create RAIDz I will going to use software resources or I will use the resource throughput from the hardware controller?

[@IntermitTech]

Disable any form of RAID and use them as individual ports, then you can mix and match between LSI or mobo ports. Everything is then handled in software which generally has less bottlenecks then hardware RAID actually.

[@marcello4258]

is it also possible to create virtual drives for the vms without passthrough and without zfs? I do not have ECC and from what I heard this can be a big problem in terms of data corruption

[@IntermitTech]

Then you have heared wrong, or rather from people who believe something I do not believe at least. ZFS will still be safer then "any" filesystem out there even without ECC memory. There are purists who will say that if a bit flip would go unnoticed, everything is lost, but that is just nonsense. Yes a file might be damaged, but ZFS will still handle it much much better then most other stuff out there. But hey, what if the bit flip happened on the desktop you where saving the file from? That doesn't have ECC? So then was use is your server having ECC? It's all much more complicated then that. Is your data worth 1 million dollar and unreplaceable, please please buy a server with ECC memory. Is it less valuable then that, well then ECC is also less important. It's all about the redundancy you want to have. About your question, in theory you could pass a raw device through to the VM but hat would cause all kinds of other issues and complications. There is nothing wrong with running ZFS on desktop hardware, 10's of thousands of installations do so. Purists will tell you no, often because they don't really understand the underlying principles. Build for your purpose is the most important in that.....

[@karlbooklover]

great tutorial

[@ToddLuvsGolf]

Quick question. I’m looking to move from Win10 LSI RAID50 setup to ZFS on ProxMox. Use cases are Plex Media Server, File Sharing, & rsync backup target for Synology NAS. Can I setup 2 ZFS pools (5ea 4TB WDReds) bound together under ProxMox? And target external HD for backup/journaling? Thanks in advance!!

[@IntermitTech]

Not sure what you meant, but a pool can h (should) have multiple VDEVZs. So if you want to run 2x RAIDz1 (RAID5 equivalent) you'd make 2x RAIDz1 VDEV in a single pool and they will act kind of like the RAID50 you have now. Unsure what you mean with backup/Journaling. But sure, you can use an external HDD to make backups?

[@ToddLuvsGolf]

@@IntermitTech Thanks...that answers my questions. I appreciate the insight.

[@zaluq]

when i try to add ZFS in datacenter storage with the same name ID as ZFS pool i get already defined ? had to use another id

[@IntermitTech]

I'm confused, you are importing a pool?

[@zaluq]

@@IntermitTech juist following the video step by step

[@JK-ug7rm]

How does Proxmox compare to other virtualization?

[@BurakCalik]

Thanks for the video, helped so much! I've got a question; You didn't use the whole disk during installation (at 5:00), so how do you use the rest later using zfs? Looks like I shouldn't delete the partitions using "gdisk", rather should I create new partitions on both disk then create ZFS using Proxmox GUI?

[@IntermitTech]

While you could, I wouldn't recommend it. If you want to use all the space, just make a partition of all the space available but as I mentioned in the video, I never do this with an SSD to over-provision them which still has benefits in regards to performance and longevity.

[@10138707]

great video. i have a question after the zfs pool is created can you add more disk later on.thanks

[@IntermitTech]

Yes, and no. You can't "expand" the RAID like you can with certain traditional RAID controllers like going from a 4 disk RAID6/z2 to a 5 disk RAID6/z2. What you can do it add another VDEV so another RAID6 in the same pool and then you have 2x 4Disk RAID6/z2 in one pool and combine that space in the same file system. That's a bit complicated to explain but I'm currently editing a video with this exactly as the topic! So should be up somewhere this week I hope!

[@fong_myway4147]

Sory iam newbie , its that single drive only tha u use ? The video to fast in that part , peace n thax Can i just only use only single drive as a host and iso storage and vm (maybe ...?)

[@IntermitTech]

You can use a single drive but I use a mirrored SSD setup. To start out simple yeah, you can run off all a single drive

[@InversionesAlfadan]

It is normal for zraid to generate a high consumption of ram ?. I have 64 gb of total ram memory in proxmox, 1 vm windows server with 16 gb and 1 windows 10 with 4 however the ram consumption of proxmox is 78% of the total ram.

[@IntermitTech]

Yes, perfectly normal. Watch the rest of the serieus, by default it takes up 50% of memory, but you can tame it down depending in your needs and expectations. Not a feature of "zraid" but of ZFS, doesn't matter if you use mirror pools or RAIDz.

[@InversionesAlfadan]

@@IntermitTech Thank you

[@StudyRumble]

creative comnt...........................Thank you!!!!!!

[@maxsievers8251]

You should have used a Raptor CS system. They come with OpenBMC.

[@lordbaboon1110]

Hi,great videos ! I have a question,is it possible to gain direct access to the zfs mirrors from the vm ? Lets say i want to download stuffs from within a vm but store it on the array,can i do that without passthru the disks ? Or do you share the disks from Proxmox and connect via NFS or samba ? Thanks in advance !

[@IntermitTech]

There are several ways of doing this, I'm experimenting with which way is easiest or why to choose what and might make a video about that in the future!

[@lordbaboon1110]

@@IntermitTech Thanks ! I currently use NFS between my host and my vm,but it causes high cpu usage when transferring big/many files.

[@IntermitTech]

@@lordbaboon1110 I used to use NFS too and that has worked well for me honnestly. I might stick with that because I want to experiment with building a Proxmox cluster later on and then it has some advantages but I am going to test out some other ways too.

[@zx9rmario]

Proxmox servers with Ceph and 10Gbit :)

[@shaunwhiteley3544]

Hi, thanks for this, I’m near the end of my unraid trial, which would you recommend, ProxMox or unraid? I run Hassio in a docker, I want a few windows, Linux vm’s and a cross platform network Share setup. I have a Dell R710. Thanks

[@IntermitTech]

It depends on your storage needs I guess? In regards to VMs and containers it should be fine, Proxmox doesn't have the native docker integration but that can be done from a VM or maybe an LXC container. Further in regards to disk, Unraid is more efficient in regards to space but ZFS can be much faster disk IO wise.

[@mdd1963]

it's hard to fathom choosing Unraid....; go with Proxmox if you want Linux based, or HyperV if you want 'WInders!' Then you can tinker with whatever server OS solutions you desire, from CentOS, RockStor, Ubuntu, OpenMediaVault, FreeNAS, etc...

[@JK-ug7rm]

@@mdd1963 Should OpenMediaVault use ECC memory?

[@fbifido2]

what about the VM tools? you did not install that, why?

[@ralfman5]

Hey, thanks for your previous responses to my questions. I installed proxmox cant seem to get the mellanox connectx2 to work with proxmox, any suggestions? thanks again.

[@IntermitTech]

Does it get loaded during boot? Check using dmesg and grep for "mlx". What can't you get working?

[@marcosoliveira8731]

It looks like I can use a Freenas server to be me Proxmox storage. Am I corect?

[@IntermitTech]

Well yes, but what does FreeNAS offer beyond proxmox. A web interface to manage shares?

[@marcosoliveira8731]

​@@IntermitTech I meant that I´d use Freenas only as storage and Proxmox in a dedicated server . Do you think that's overkill to a home lab ?

[@goldbrick2751]

I really love your channel. I was wondering if I can boot the proxmox off of my USB 2.0 on the motherboard, and have the VM's running on a USB3.0 sticks that I have on USB3 to PCI card adapter, storage is a ZFS2 HDD. Can you comment please.

[@IntermitTech]

Although technically possible, I'd highly recommend against it. I built a 3 node proxmox cluster once running off mirrored USB sticks, it died unrepairable after 6 months, too many USB sticks died at the same time. Proxmox isn't meant to run on USB sticks and will "write through them". Just get some cheap SSDs is my advice.

[@fvgoya]

I just don't understand why to use Proxmox against VirtualBox, for example. Whats the benefits of Proxmox does that VirtualBox doesn't?

[@IntermitTech]

OS on itself with maintained packages and updates, user interface, storage capabilities, cluster capabilities, container abilities, built-in backup and advanced snapshot functions, especially in combination with ZFS. It's quite different I'd say.

[@fvgoya]

@@IntermitTech I got it! Thank you very much!!

[@jackmclane1826]

What is the power consumption of this rig?

[@IntermitTech]

With the 8x 3TB 7200rpm disks added in there it's just shy of 200w. Without those it's more between 100w and 125w.

[@jackmclane1826]

@@IntermitTech In idle or load? 8 HDDs added ~80W of power consumption? Overall its still decent for such a powerful system, but that figure for the HDDs surprises me a little.

[@IntermitTech]

Yeah, those 3TB Enterprise drives can use about 10w a piece. In contrast the 8x 10TB uses much less, more like 4w to 5w average. I'll replace the 3TB when it makes sense, at some point it will be a crossover point between power costs and new disks. Rest of the components are pretty energy efficient, not too much difference between normal load (20%) or like 50% CPU I rarely see. But things like 2x HBA each will take 5w easily. 10Gbit NIC will too, so all together it's pretty decent. :)

[@DentargPL]

Is this server freenas and proxmox at the same time or it's either of these via multiboot?

[@IntermitTech]

What? It's proxmox, why would I then still need FreeNAS? It has ZFS and most stuff what you'd want right in there.

[@DentargPL]

@@IntermitTech I guess I missed that. So you just use proxmox itself also for ZFS and sharing. I've seen another builds where FreeNAS was used as VM on proxmox with storage HBA in pass-through mode. Not sure what are benefits of each approach though.

[@IntermitTech]

I guess they really really wanted the FreeNAS UI then? Otherwise there is nothing else it brings then complexity. But spend a few minutes in learning Samba and you are set in my opinion.

[@DentargPL]

@@IntermitTech I prefer cmd line setting of stuff (especially ZFS), so I guess I do not need FreeNas. Athough I do not like samba :). I really like you series about this server, with all the arguments why each part of the solution is the way it is. I think I would go different way. With old used server, because it will be cheaper for me and gives more possibilities (like 88 PCIe lines, 2 power supplies, all necessary parts - except drives - in place). Or I would delete all unnecessary data :).

[@IntermitTech]

Thnx I appreciate that, put a lot of work into it. And everyone's choices are going to be different, I can fully understand going the older sever hardware route!

[@Gutnarm]

a few tips: don't delete the proxmox subscriber repo, # comment it out instead and add the community repo just below. that way you can easily switch back when you decide to buy the license. if you're using a raid controller to set up your disk arrays, don't use zfs - they don't mix well (and why would you want to build a software raid inside a hardware raid?) shopping for older servers for your home lab? make sure they support the features you're planning to use. no pci passthrough without vt-d/directed IO/IOMMU, for example.

[@jeffchan6614]

Hi Intermit.Tech, just want to let you know that I've learned a lot from your videos!!! Keep them coming. I now have a physical server but not sure what to do.... Can you please recommend? Physical Server Specs: Xeon E5 2620 2.0Ghz 32GB Memory 10 x 3 TB Harddrives (NOT solid state) How do I setup the virtual drives, use the RAID controller of the hardware or do the RAID5/6 in ProxMox? I will be using it as a lab. How do I setup the drives/storage? I'm having trouble setting up storage in Proxmox. These are the storage that I need: 1. 250GB - ProxMox OS 2. 500 GB - ISO’s 3. 1 TB - storage, files, any files 4. The rest of the 30TB - VM storage Thanks so much!

[@IntermitTech]

Read up on Proxmox or specifically ZFS a little bit. With ZFS you don't need or rather don't want a RAID controller. Just normal ports which you then connect simple SATA or SAS devices to and ZFS does all the RAID and other stuff for you. Including what you are talking about with multiple drives, pools and directories. Generally speaking I'd advise you to get 2x1TB SSD, put those into a ZFS mirror en then make a RAIDz2 or Mirror (depending on performance vs space you need) of the HDDs. You can do it with HDDs too, it's just (a lot) slower, especially if you are running multiple systems on it (VMs). Hope that helps!

[@jeffchan6614]

@@IntermitTech Thanks for the quick reply. I got it to work! I have another question. I created a Windows 10 VM and was able to access internet. But if I try to access this VM's shared folder from my other Windows 10 laptop, I cannot access it. But I can RDP to it though. Just no access to a folder I shared to everyone. Not sure what I missed in setting up the VM to talk to internal network. Thanks!

[@IntermitTech]

@@jeffchan6614 Check all the firewalls of those PCs, that's mostly the issue with Windows

[@nikosc]

very informative, but as a complete noob, I still don't quite understand how storage works in proxmox....local, shared, zfs, freenas, directory, nfs, iso, backups...

[@IntermitTech]

Easiest way to learn is to actually get started with it, it all has it's purpose and does something slightly different. I can understand it being confusing though!

[@franzpleurmann2585]

With `sgdisk --zap-all /dev/disk-by-id/ID* you can speed up the disk wiping.

[@snasir01]

Do you or anyone you know sell services to configure proxmox, need assistance passthru gpu, usb etc to win10 and macos catalina vm?

[@IntermitTech]

Poh, I certainly don't and sadly don't know anyone who does either.

[@deverloperfantom1372]

goot whot is maserbord?

[@SyberPrepper]

I've been looking into XCP-ng and Proxmox. Looks like XCP-ng does not share vGPU the video card between VMs very well. Does Proxmox? xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/295/xcp-ng-gpu-passthrough-no-gpu-found/2 xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/1398/vgpu-which-graphics-card-supported/2 According to these articles: "vGPU is vastly different than PCI passthrough. In short, vGPU is passing "slices" of physical GPU to a VM (like vCPU for a physical CPU). This allows to share GPU load between multiple VMs with one physical GPU. PCI Passthrough is exclusive, it "reserves" the whole PCI device for one VM."

[@FrankDijkstra]

Great video, although i can't seem to find the commands in your blog. The copy/paste after "nano sources.list" Ah never mind, this special beer i'm drinking clouds my mind haha

[@IntermitTech]

The article might have been a bit hard to find, I added another link in the description and will create a better index, good you found it though! :D

[@parnashish1910]

Good but slightly advanced for newbies.

[@SwiatLinuksa]

So.. you doing piratebay2? :)) No.. ??! Yeah!! This will be Linuxbay!!

[@hillbillymark1]

Unless you have gigabyte bios. Find another video. Otherwise, spend 2 hours looking for settings that are not there.

[@micheldiz]

Why not FreeNAS?

[@Felix-ve9hs]

I only need 10TB and Gigabit Ethernet :^)

[@rahuljanagal5098]

No homo

[@bwzes03]

Its not a licence you buy, since Proxmox is published under the GPL. You buy support for one year. The next year you'll be seeing the pop-up again.

[@どしん-t6y]

help a upcoming artist out I don’t have a problem paying u for your ti

[@ChristopherReevesNZ]

The hand waving / wagging at the beginning of this video is very unnatural and off putting

[@IntermitTech]

I think this was around the time I was first learning to use my teleprompter, that's why it can look a bit unnatural at times I think. Working on that. ;) But I do like my hand waving, it kind of goes automatically but otherwise I'd just sit there like a robot, not very nice to watch either I think. :P

[@blackneos940]

I'll stick with VirtualBox. :)