Home Renovation -Raising a Vaulted Ceiling

We' ve taken out our ceiling along with the outdated fiberglass R-15 insulation that was loose laid in the joist bays and framed up a vaulted ceiling. We've dropped sistered a 2x6 from the original 2x4 to give us a 1" air gap between the insulation and the roof sheathing. We insulated with Rockwool R-23 Mineral Wool and a 1" layer of R-6 Thermasheath Polyisocyanurate rigid foam R-Max for a continuous insulation barrier.
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[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Going to break this project up by segments so please check into the channel for series updates. Please Subscribe and help out the channel!!!

[@nancysheehan5894]

Great team work. Your shopping partner is a star!*

[@powerpuff7691]

This is exactly I wanna see, thank you!

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Thank you. Wish it was a little better quality, bit c'est la vie

[@squeekhobby4571]

Good job. It is not easy to do this remodeling. Believe it looks much better

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Thanks, luckily it's a small space but yeah, anything overhead is exhausting, it was certainly an upgrade from the low dark cielings!!

[@GordonTremeshko]

Hey Jason, been researching and planning my reno and I’ve been looking for a great video like this! Why can’t anyone else make videos like this one?!? Glad I found it. The only difference between our plans is the lack of ridge beam in your project. The collar ties keep the wind from blowing the roof off, but what keeps the weight of the roof from pushing the walls outwards? I am looking for alternatives to a ridge beam, so I am interested in your solution. Thanks in advance.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

So, first. Thanks! Second, there is a ridge beam, it was in the form of the original ridge board. A ridge beam would be more of a timber frame application. The "collar ties" are actually tension ties so yes the act against wind sheer (both up and down) but also because they connect both rafters they pull together which helps the force of the load down instead of out. I was okay with this design because, if you notice in the video I pulled the cieling joists out by hand which means the ONE 16d nail wasn't doing much. I was able to nail the existing rafters and the sister rafters to the wall top plate. Even better would have been metal connectors. If the room was just a little longer I would've included exposed metal torsion tie rods or possible exposed wood beams but it was just under my concern limit. Hope that helps!!! I should do an update video on this, seems to be a popular topic!!

[@GordonTremeshko]

@@JasonMichaelKotarski Ha! One 16d is hilarious. It reminds me of my house. Thank you for the explanation, it is very helpful

[@timdouglass4934]

As a life long remodeler. Move the appliances out of the work area. Protect the countertop with plywood. No reason to bring the lumber into the kitchen.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Definitely good point on the appliances, on this one the kitchen was 30% of the total square footage, so space was at a premium. We actually started with the ceiling first because everything gets demo'd after cabs, counters, floors, it was a lazy man's drop cloth. I do have to differ with you on the lumber though, it was a good work platform that I would've built with scaffold anyway, plus in the Pacific Northwest it's not wise to leave lumber outdoors.

[@allamericanballoon]

Very nice. do you have a picture or video of the finished project?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Thank you! Just about have the finished project video edited so soon! Should have a quick flurry of videos coming up as everything wraps up.

[@danieldoan5193]

Can you make a update video showing how the roof held up over time

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Probably not. But if you look at the chronological order of the videos you'll see we finished the ceiling and walls prior to repairing the foundation and I wasnt even concerened about it. Either way the cieling is completely fine, the load was completely calculated. If you're not sure don't do it. But I studied architecture and have done construction for over 25 years.

[@SpiteClubCT]

​@@JasonMichaelKotarskihow do you calculate this scenario? Have a similar situation and would like to get an idea if possible

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Meant to show that in the update video but that project is long gone. It's a general static and live load calculations based on spans. Next time I do some fancier editing with the math like a Beautiful Mind or something!

[@notsure103]

So you added a bunch of load to the roof without adding a beam. What is now going to resist spread?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

The collar ties secure the rafters to each other/ ridge board. The drop sistered 2x6's are attached to the top plate.

[@timgleason2527]

I’m sure you’ve done some research into this, but how does one determine how far up those collar ties can be? Seems like a lot of leverage on them!

[@notsure103]

@@timgleason2527 this was the point of my rhetorical question. He put them on in a fashion that would replace hurricane ties(resist uplift) but do not hold the walls together. Calculation for the placement must be made based on load. Basically the higher the load the further down they should be. A load carrying ridge beam supported to the foundation should have been incorporated into this installation. Hopefully he doesn't get heavy snow.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

The general rule of thumb is to divide into thirds with the tension tie in the top third area. Other factors would include size of the room (span), slope of the roof, and height of the walls. This was a small room and the fact that weren't any Tension Ties to begin with made me comfortable with their placement.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

That's a valid point. It was all taken into account. The ridge board was adequate to the ridge, the tension ties were maxed out for height but the thrust calculation was still within range. We only get heavy snow once in a while and only for a couple of days. Snow load was also taken into account. The spans were all small enough that I am confident in the application.

[@johns.1940]

Not gonna lie, so far it looks a little Hacky.Why is the structure exposed? That detail leaves a bit to be desired.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I'm guessing you mean the nailer at the ridge for the finish carpentry box beam? I'll have to do a follow up video when I get a computer that can handle editing these big files.

[@breg155]

How much does a project like this cost? Start to finish? And how long does it take?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I can give estimates in the Greater Seattle Area and it would be hard to say how long something takes, there are a lot of varying factors.

[@itsoktoberight4431]

Was there any structural reason why you didn't take it all the way to the wall without the flat parts on the sides?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

There is a slight structural benefit of the soffit framing but it's not much. There is more of a benefit in the insulation detail (Insulating where the wall and ceiling meet), a place to run electrical wires, the gabled end upper cabinet layout and tying the ceiling plane into the dining room.

[@agatarek_pl]

wow, I am impressed you did all this hard work by yourself. Can you tell approximate material cost and time? Thank you

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I don't recall off hand and prices have increased dramatically since this project. If I had to quote an estimate it would've been around $5k USD and maybe 10 working days (with sheetrock and paint drying time) This was our own project so we did it over the Winter holiday slow season. A typical Kitchen Remodel (depending on cabinet, countertop and appliance choice) is around $25-$30k USD.

[@agatarek_pl]

@@JasonMichaelKotarski thank you for your reply

[@timgleason2527]

Seriously, I’m jealous looking back a year ago when you could find a beautiful pile of boards like that!

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Right?!?!? And at those prices!! I actually like to handpick my framing lumber when I can, I cherry pick on the quarter sawn Douglas Fir boards every time.

[@tedspens]

Hi, excellent video! It's been a couple of years so just wondering, how's it holding up (literally 🙂) with those small collar ties? I've always understood 1/3 down every 48" is the standard, but I'm still learning.

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

It's all in the same place as when we did it! I've watched the difference of the snow melt between that section and the rest of the house and we can see exactly where we have heat loss.

[@notsure103]

Why is there 14/2 and 12/2 sticking out of the same ceiling box?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I don't know, must've tapped a circut? Don't remember honestly.

[@Jewel247247]

where is the after picture omg

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Maybe on my Istagram page, not sure? It should be making a cameo in the Installing a Casement Window video, we have a triple pane, tempered glass, casement window on order that will be the driver for the countertop and cabinets!

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I wish KZbin would let you edit a video after its published

[@xu5949]

Hi, do you know how long will this project take if I hire contractors to do it?(similar size room),thanks!

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

If you are in the Seattle area I can, otherwise there are just too many factors to say how long something would take.

[@futurepilot6749]

What music name of this

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

It was in the YT studio editor called "Song for Michael". Please hit that subscribe button!

[@futurepilot6749]

@@JasonMichaelKotarski okay thanks, i'll hit the subscribe button

[@wubbogirl]

How much did this project cost?

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

In which sense of the term? Materials, Labor, back pain......? It's our own home and we have a Design | Build General Contracting business, so we did it during the winter slowdown and now COVID quarantine.

[@wubbogirl]

@@JasonMichaelKotarski we just bought a house is love to do this but might have to hire a contractor

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

I see , just the ceiling alone wouldn't be too expensive if all structural measures are addressed ( live/snow/wind load, tension, & sheer) and as long as the electrical, mechanical and plumbing aren't problematic. We started from the top down because A) we needed to fix the insulation and lighting B) we used the existing ugliness as our drop cloth and C) we have a 2 yr old so we can only do these in increments. We're in Seattle so prices may be higher than typical but I'd guesstimate the ceiling at about $5k with framing, insulation, electrical, and GWB. A kitchen this size is typically $25k-$30k.

[@riccardo6730]

I would advise you to hire a professional next time

[@JasonMichaelKotarski]

Yeah? On what aspect? Like a licensed General Contractor with 20 years experience, three college degrees and a former college instructor?

[@eliovisita]

@@JasonMichaelKotarskiI was like this guy is crazy that job looks great and very professional