Home Theater Talk : Setting Speaker Crossover Level's

Here's the crossover settings I use for my theater. Maybe this can help you with your settings for Improved sound! 😃👍🏽
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[@TheRafcave]

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[@alex1up599]

THE RAFCAVE can you make a video of the level you are set please

[@gavrielho6635]

hello mr .. for home theater using hdmi arc cable or optical cable that supports dollby atmos? now i use hdmi arc but atmos never appear on my denon x4500 amp screen .. TQ

[@billmarsh3767]

This is exactly how my setup is programmed--if you have good equipment---exploit it by not being generic but in a rational way. Great video

[@zombeat7376]

Been watching a lot of these videos tonight got to tell you what I am hearing now is the best I heard yet. Bass, sounds even, clean and super powerful. Fkg great thanks a bunch! P. S what it was my speakers sound great with the bass so I didn't want to cut the bass to them off completely. So I set them to the same crossover frequency yours are at and between the bass from my front speakers and sub.. Brilliant. Watching the invisible man (2020) the bit where she escapes at the beginning, hits the car and sets the alarm off, the music that kicks in after that... Wow! I watched this movie many times and never heard it like that before. Can't wait to hear the rest of it and something with more action later thank you!

[@thesoulexpressshow1370]

Hey Man thanks for pointing out to people to not just copy and paste setting from forums! Try for yourself and enjoy

[@DEEJAYKLONE]

I don’t normally comment but you had some real great advice and to the point. Thanks man. 🙏 liked and subscribed.

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks DJ. ✌🏾

[@teknikalvette]

Nice vid, great advice! Thanks for sharing.

[@karthikeyankarthikeyan3960]

Very informative with simple explanation

[@chrisharford2610]

Great logical information, thank you.

[@keng8883]

Good info, I can't wait to go do some tweaking.

[@donlatinohits]

This video helped me a lot. Just what I need to complete an install tomorrow.

[@TheRafcave]

That's great good luck! 🙂👍🏽

[@frankconte264]

Very well said, awesome video. Thank you sir

[@631alexander]

The best video I ever seen 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@ProjectSOG]

Great video and thank you for the information. Looking forward to learning more!

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks for watching!

[@tdvols]

Excellent job man! We are thinking on the same level.Keep up the good work !!!

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks Tim! Home Theater Rules!

[@roblidestri7086]

I use pretty much those exact crossover settings with music only. Set the marantz to auro-2D it sounds amazing in 7.2.4. better then stereo or multi channel stereo. For movies I want my svs subs to handle everything. All speakers on small. Test out San Andreas and i can feel the difference when I switch from large to small. And I have Tekton pendragons. Love the vids

[@adsfghyy69]

Have fronts set to 40hz, front speakers set to large and lfe+main engaged. Have lfe set to 80hz thanks for the advice

[@PedrokasPT]

Really nice explanation ! Thanks :) greetings from Portugal!

[@TheRafcave]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SagnolTheGangster]

Cool video bro, your info helped me so much.Appreciate it!

[@TheRafcave]

Your welcome! 🙂👍🏽

[@MOTOWNN]

First time I've ever tried LFE+Main , I was a bit surprised to hear the towers contribute more bass and didn't seem to take anything away from the PB16 Ultras!

[@TheRafcave]

Nice MoTown! Glad things are still balanced for you! 👍🏽👍🏽

[@dutchgrower2971]

I have the ultra towers and the pb 3k ,you say the bass from your pb16 is the same, when you sett your receiver to 89 hertz small or 40 hertz whit lfe plus mains

[@lisawilson7022]

Great video raf i enjoy videos like this👍

[@TheRafcave]

😉👍🏽

[@joshpeters7392]

Good video and great system. What were your numbers running Audessy? Did it recommend running large or small fronts? I'd really suggest kicking your LFE up to 120hz because you're cutting off 30hz from the LFE channel. (That data is just lost/ rolled off)

[@clintyoung9902]

Josh Peters yep. Blu Ray contains LFE info up to 120Hz. Why you would cut this off anywhere below this is just confusing. But...I’m no expert.

[@mattgiunt]

In running YPAO I switched my fronts, surrounds and heights from Ypao setting of large to small. When I did this the receiver assigned them a crossover level .Should I keep that crossover level and assume that was set by YPAO as alternate to large if user wanted to set speakers from Ypao choice of large to small?

[@FCCENM]

Good info. Thanks!!!

[@zeppelin2900]

Great videos I learn alot from them

[@tomhobel]

Complete changed my payback doing these settings it sounds amazing now thank you so much

[@TheRafcave]

🙂👍🏽

[@tomhobel]

@@TheRafcave my towers go to 35 hz and my center goes to 58 is 40 and 60 to low? Towers are klipsch r-820f and center is Klipsch RP-450C

[@johnpoo1662]

@@tomhobel just because the specs say it, doesn't mean they will play low freqs as cleanly as a sub will.

[@krushanapatil466]

Good morning sirji very good video. I need your help. I have polk audio rti a9 floor standing speaker .center speakers sci a6 surround speakers RTI a1.dolby atmos c8. Suggest me crossover setting of all speaker sir ji

[@akasinned52]

Great video, just learned a whole lot. my receiver only allows crossover settings for small speakers. Can I follow your same logic and set the crossover between 15 and 20 above the lowest rated frequency response of each speaker? not sure what it's setting it too when speakers are set to large. Also when going this route should I redo my levels which were set with the auto cal feature?

[@TheRafcave]

Yes, and you could try a SPL meter to check the levels.

[@sutraleticsssutraleticss5001]

Can't wait to try the crossovers.....didn't quite get the 90hz for the sub as opposed to 120hz 🤔. I am also using LFE + MAIN but with much higher crossovers.

[@sutraleticsssutraleticss5001]

Great video! Totally agree with what you say contrary to conventional practise. Only, I don't get LPF set at 90 vs 120 or even to the highest value as some suggest.

[@sutraleticsssutraleticss5001]

Totally agree to setting fronts as LARGE. Not sure of keeping the LPF at 90hz instead of standard 120hz. Would this make a considerable difference? Do u set distance as per actuals or have certain standard numbers you look at?

[@TheRafcave]

What I do is just experiment with the lfe bass Hz. Leave it at what sounds best to you.

[@hometheaterjoe9489]

Great video again sir!!

[@TheRafcave]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@selah86]

I’ve got B&W speakers, they give me option to biwire my front left/right. Do you do this? If so, see any improvement?

[@TheRafcave]

You can you'll give your speakers more power which will make them sound better.

[@minbucko]

Did you have to get several circuits added to the room to deal with the power of all of thag equipment?

[@TheRafcave]

Nope my voltage stabilizer adds power when needed.

[@49ers50]

Great setup bro

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks

[@Jayman001]

RAF i have INFINITY BETA 50 for towers they go down to 35hz, what crossover frequency you recommend? I have them set @40 hz and small, and a 12" KLIPSCH PS set at LFE+MAINS @120hz but since towers have 8" duals should I change to LFE ALONE, DENON AVR X4500H for center I have INFINITY BETA 360 "it's huge" have it set to small @ 60hz... what do u think, am I on the right track? Suggestions for improvement. THNX!

[@TheRafcave]

80hz, Small everything, LFE @ 120hz only. Try It. 🙂👍🏽

[@ronwess]

Yep I love it 2....home theater is Awesomeness 👌 👏 👍 U MY FRIEND GOT NICE SETUP 😀 👍 😊

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks Ron. Peace brother. ✌🏾

[@masudkabir9214]

Hi, I followed your channel and absolutely agreed to your crossover settings. I am building my Home Theater with, L @ R with Dynaudio Contour S3.4, Set to (Large, 40Hz) Center Dynaudio Evoke 25c (Small, 60Hz) Rear Dynaudio Focus 140 (Small, 60 Hz), Surround Back and Front Height and Atmos using Bose Accuisticmass 16 speaker at this moment. They set to Large (As bose suggested), will change them soon. Any suggestion.

[@mamabazzz]

Amen!!! To my ears the way I have it set up is amazing. I have all my speakers set to large at 80 Hz and my sub set to 120 HZ and it sounds good to my ears!!

[@TheRafcave]

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@joeydelmarsjr.646]

80hz THX standard but i sounded muddy on my subs maybe cause gain was too hi, but my 280f handle down to 60hz fine and sounds punchy so it rolls off at 60hz and 2x15 subs handle the rest, cause i like big strong bass but with out being boomy or over the top muddy. subs go down to 10hz but cant hear or feel anything just see the sub move

[@chrisohrling149]

I have a question about the crossover settings for my home theater i am running all cerwin vega speakers for my home theater and I need help on setting the crossover settings and may i ask you what app you are using to check how much power each speaker can handle

[@TheRafcave]

I just looked up the manufacturer specs

[@andreemilsen369]

Nice video man 😊 I am going to change things up a bit in my system. I have 4 fronts, 2 used as surround now, but I plan on getting another xtz 300-a (don't rember exact name). I have one for each front, and biamped in 4 ohm, they deliver 600 watts and 1500 dampingfactor to each front. Sounds freaking amazing. Current fronts are dual 12" rated to 22hz, so they slam. The other set have dual 10" and are rated to 25 hz. (Same speakerseries, same midrange and tweter). My plan is to move my screen forward in the room, and use the dual 10's as centerspeaker behind the screen, driven by another xtz 300 so I can splitt centersignal into two speakers. That will make my center 4x10" bass 🤪🤪🤪 Then take front high (do not have atmos yet), use as surround, and put the normal center as rear surround. Have dual subs with 1 active and 2 passive 14". (Def Tec Supercube Reference, freaking awsome, 11hz is rating, neighbour acros the road, not so happy 🤣). I now have fronts in full range, but I am going to try 40hz splitt, but I suspect the subs will only do from 40hz qnd down on fronts then, (front + sub is only available when fronts in large, and then I can not cut fronts off at all. Idealy I would cut them at 30 hz, with sub on top, but hey, that is one of the reasons I want a new reciever. Preferably the Anthem MRX 1140. Started saving up 🤪

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks, great set up. Just experiment with the settings untill your happy. 👍🏽

[@arisbougioukos8160]

Big volume for center i think it's small problem for 60hz. i crossover all surround speakers 80hz and 40hz only Main Towers! Nice video man!

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks Aris! 🙂👍🏽

[@BigBoss9696]

Great video! I just replaced my Sony receiver (2012) with a Denon AVR-X2700H 2020 model and I’m trying everything of everything for some odd reason my Sony Receiver was packing a bigger punch and impact. I am missing something? I’ll keep looking through the menu’s. Your Marantz menu interface is almost identical to mine.

[@TheRafcave]

Thank you!

[@jordanniagara3131]

Very nicely explained. You keep it nice and simple.

[@TheRafcave]

🙂👍🏽

[@waymonfrench2077]

@@TheRafcave nice video man ,my system sounds even better from trying out those settings movies sounds better 👌 👍 thanks rafcave ...so how many tvs and theaters do you have lol

[@TheRafcave]

@@waymonfrench2077 Just 3 systems In The Rafcave. 😊👍🏽

[@waymonfrench2077]

@@TheRafcave lol, i like your style and videos my friend keep it coming....happy 2022

[@bric7244]

This is what I m talking about !! Finally.... I have a marantz sr 6013. 2 marantz ma 700 mono block amps. Klipsch rp 280 fa Klipsch 450 c center , klipsch 250s surrounds klipsch 160m rears. Two '15 cerwin vega subs. Ran audyssey, hated it dumb everything down to - 11 -17 etc. After everybody was saying set all speakers to small at 80hz . Why have great towers to get them off at the knees! Yes your subs do a better job at running g the bass . But sometimes I wanna hear just the towers with the bass they produce ! Hey how did you get the 2bd profile on the marantz? I want to have a 2nd profile set up for 2ch stereo! Thx ..

[@antoniobrown2231]

You are 100% right now you change the name of this channel to ask Ref LOL awesome video

[@TheRafcave]

😁😁👌🏽👌🏽

[@wholetdougout4752]

Do you have a link to the video samples you use for testing purposes. Trying to set up my first setup up and really needing some samples to test on. Thanks.

[@TheRafcave]

Watch my Kodi video.

[@amigosdohometheater5140]

Great video, how was the crossover adjustment on the subwoofer? at most, in LFE?

[@TheRafcave]

Hi, I have my sub LFE at 90hz. 🙂

[@TysonHook-22-]

@@TheRafcave Your LFE should always be set to 120hz since thats what ALL audio engineers mix at. Regardless of how you perceive things setting the LFE lower then 120hz your loosing some of the dynamics of your source material, at just 90hz your loosing 30hz of material... The crossovers are different and are always worth playing around with to see what you enjoy most, but theres lots of info online about why your LFE should always remain at 120hz... otherwise your not reproducing the source material to its full potential and your literally cutting out parts of your low end dynamics. Watch your fav explosive movie scene at 90hz then switch it to 120hz and re-watch it, you'll hear sounds at 120hz that weren't present at 90hz.

[@savanpanchal6929]

Hey Rafcave, for my movies/4k, is it worth keeping multiEq off or any setting you prefer? Also did you calibrate with Audessy? I have Marantz SR7012.

[@TheRafcave]

I ran audessy once In all 8 positions. Then I got a tape measure and measured everything to double check. Then I turned off all audessy settings tweaked a few things and enjoy.

[@savanpanchal6929]

Oh okay. I just find db levels so low when I set it up with Audessy and I have to crank voice to 70 for movies. Also is there much difference running Audessy in 8 places vs 3 - I just have 3 sit sofa.

[@TheRafcave]

You will get the most accurate reading In 8 positions.

[@gavrielho6635]

@@TheRafcave good👍👏

[@mnadeem500]

​@@TheRafcave but in video, you have shown that you are using Audyssey to reference and dynamic Eq to on

[@djwolfville290]

Good stuff man. I don't have a crossover for each individual channel. Just one for all. But I do have EQ for each individual channel. What do you think? Using a music CD to optimize the sound for each channel? Front, rear center

[@TheRafcave]

Just set your crossover at 80z for all. And you can use a phone app to check SPL levels for your speakers so they're balanced at 75db at 0 master volume.

[@wezz69]

I accidentally ordered klipsch bookshelf speakers which are powered, not realising. Can i use the speakers as passive? Or will they only work powered?

[@TheRafcave]

Only powered. 😬

[@Modestleisure]

I have klipsch thx ultra 2 7.1.2 setup with Denon 4700h + monolith x7 bedlayer speakers specs on every speaker is 80 hz and Dolby Atmos is 45 hz please advise what settings you would do on same setup

[@TheRafcave]

Awesome speakers! Congrats

[@steadychaosproductions3376]

im gonna give these settings a try in my system. My towers are rated for 29Hz.

[@jonsanchez1623]

Hi RC, I noticed your SUBWOOFER has 2 SPKRS on your DENON set-up. How did you do that? Thank you!

[@TheRafcave]

Hi, the Denon has 2 Subwoofer outputs. 🙂👍🏽

[@alambe7275]

Grated vice

[@EastAngliaUK]

pioneer sc-lx73 & mission m73 speakers are large but my other mission 700 is small this sounds good to me.

[@TheRafcave]

👌🏽

[@TheRafcave]

@John Smith That's what crossovers are for. 40hz for my large speakers.

[@stephenperez5610]

Great video. I was just wondering what type of sub do have and was it powered. If so how did u adjust the phase?

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks. I have two Klipsch rsw15, and three Klipsch sub 12's. I did left to right phase and play by ear what sounded louder.

[@mauriciob8260]

Please please where I can get the Imax demo on your video

[@gavrielho6635]

hello mr .. for home theater using hdmi arc cable or optical cable that supports dollby atmos? now i use hdmi arc but atmos never appear on my denon x4500 amp screen .. TQ

[@TheRafcave]

HDMI ARC will give you Dolby Atmos. Depends on the device sound output.

[@gavrielho6635]

@@TheRafcave TQ mr

[@bboyzeus1594]

❤️

[@kira5348]

My room size is 3.4m X 3.9m running 5.1.4 . Using marantz SR 6014 AVR. Recommend crossover setting for Prime Tower, Prime Centre, Prime satellite and 2 pair of evolution speaker mounting on wall front height and rear height?

[@TheRafcave]

80hz and Small

[@kira5348]

@@TheRafcave thanks

[@AbhijitPhulare]

My elac cinema 5 surrounds cant go below 160hz as per spec sheet. So i have to keep them at 180hz on my denon receiver. Can I keep the sub at 120hz ? Or will I have to keep it at 180hz to fill that gap ?

[@TheRafcave]

Keep the sub at 120hz, set surround to small and 170hz.

[@AbhijitPhulare]

Appreciate your quick reply! Thanks! But i am confused that if the surrounds will pick sound over 170hz and sub will be restricted to 120hz then what fill happen to the frequency between 120 to 170? Will it be not produced and heard at all??

[@Lowkey_nxthxn]

Very true I like the sound of 80hz but I find setting my Polk s20 to 60hz. I get much more of details and a fuller sound and image. As my surround speakers

[@TheRafcave]

All good. Your ears will tell the truth

[@Lowkey_nxthxn]

@@TheRafcave most definitely

[@queenpillpopper8050]

Knowledge

[@saikatbose8370]

What about the eq adjustments which should come at the bottom once you click Audio. Now would love to know that should it be for each, front left or right , or all. And the adjustments.

[@TheRafcave]

I just do Audyessy for EQ

[@saikatbose8370]

@@TheRafcave Thank you

[@saikatbose8370]

Unfortunately audessy is not the answeer. 00 or something else. Av receiver is actually a complicated beast.

[@mikebouwmeister9539]

a good afternoon a question I have the klipsch rf82 for my mains and they go up to 33 hz and my center is the klisch rc 62 and they go up to 57 hz and I have the surrounds rf 52 and di go up to 34 hz. and my reciever is denon avr x1500h. how i have it now is mains 40hz center 80hz and surrounds 80 subwoofer lfe + main 120 and it sounds great. but would like to know what you think about it. thank you

[@TheRafcave]

Sounds to me like your maximizing your speakers. Test a demo with your settings, then test all speakers @80hz with lfe sub only and see what sounds better to you.

[@mikebouwmeister9539]

thank you. I'll do that. you have a really nice channel

[@TheRafcave]

Thank you Mike. Have fun 😉

[@ronwess]

Aye RafCave wasup.... (" Do U k ow anything on a Sony Str-dn840?

[@TheRafcave]

You want this Ron.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aajTiGyrhLmEn9E

[@vergoscreative]

Hey, my name is Daniel and I live in Greece. I have a question! Where can I find the original Dolby and IMAX trailers to test my system? Thank you!

[@TheRafcave]

Hi, look on a website the digital theater dot com.

[@vergoscreative]

@@TheRafcave Hi, thank you for your reply, I know the site because of movie trailers, but I don’t have found Dolby trailers yet!

[@Fotoklasika]

Hello! :) I have best home theater magic ever....I set everything large (because all spekers are big towers in my room)...Center and Atmos set large too. And i feel full power from around.... LFE 90hz like yours (love bass not work too Zzzizzzzy:) Crossowers of big towers 40hz...Center and Atmos for 60hz.... I dont trust anything only my ears...I want get all from my denon x3300w and all speakers...Because i love big sound what i feel in commercial theaters...I remember the movie track after premiere and i want feel same at home after blueray come out....When i saw your video understand that rules can be broken if experimenting from audio and its good for you...Because Audio Is Personal! I think all info from LFE (+30hz) you feel only very very high end systems and not every movie track give u good sound:)

[@walex19]

I love the advise. I’m going to set my RP280Fs to large

[@TheRafcave]

Give It a try! 😉

[@parabellum4221]

I don't see anyone cover the speaker DISTANCE settings, this is something that is overlooked and is definitely important. The auto EQ feature which many receivers have and many use, auto sets the speaker distance at high levels in Feet distance, so why is this NOT covered?

[@ShaileshPatel-le8cq]

AVR - Yamaha 5.1 HTR 3072 All Yamaha Bookshelf. Speakers FREQUENCY. Center - 58Hz - 45Khz FS - 57Hz - 45Khz SS - 62Hz - 20Khz SW - 20-160Hz According to abv what crossover is to be set. Currently set 80Hz.

[@TheRafcave]

Try and listen If you like the new settings.

[@azwan1927]

Try setup Crossover you : FS - 60Hz CS - 60Hz SS - 80Hz SW - 120Hz

[@Jmtz78]

Love your videos man. I have a denon avr-s750h with the klipsch 5.1 reference theater pack with two subwoofers what crossovers levels should i use

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks. Try 100hz

[@YoYo-uh3xj]

110hz or 120hz. The satellite speakers in the Theater back can't go lower that 110hz. I used to have Klipsch 5.1 theater pack before I upgraded my system.

[@nbrown5907]

Ouch bass below 80hz is non directional you should stay 80hz or higher for smaller speakers. The Dolby THX reference is set to 80hz for that reason. I run a Harmon/Kardon JBL/Crown/DBX Live sound 3600 Watt setup and I crossover at 80hz with JBL JRX 125's which have two 15" subs in them and two JBL EON 618S (18" 1000 Watt Active) subs. They go to 31Hz but I do a BW 18Db rolloff at 35.5 hz.

[@bumkrilla5339]

Actually they did it in the middle between 60hz and 100hz 80hz works for most rooms but some rooms 60hz is better some rooms is 100 hz for majority of rooms 80hz is best it was from an interview when they ask him why 80 hz

[@henryconga58]

Oh man raf that IMAX ENHANCED intro was insane!!! Hope to upgrade to the demon 4500 next year from my demon 930 saving my pennies for that one (early Retirement )

[@TheRafcave]

Yeah man I think It's great! 😀👍🏽

[@topandrun126]

For surround and front speakers I have some klipsch bookshelves in ceiling klipsch also. So I set all at 80hz. Maybe one day I will play around with the crossover to see if it makes any difference.

[@TheRafcave]

All good Randy! 👍🏽

[@topandrun126]

@@TheRafcave thank you

[@krushanapatil466]

Good morning sirji very good video. I need your help. I have polk audio rti a9 floor standing speaker .center speakers sci a6 surround speakers RTI a1.dolby atmos c8. Suggest me crossover setting of all speaker sir ji

[@TheRafcave]

Start with 80hz and small for all your speakers, and subwoofer to 120hz

[@sutraleticsssutraleticss5001]

I would look at manf specs for frequency response and then set crossovers. Would add 10hz to the lowest freq response of every speaker.

[@Test-Pilot1194]

Hey Raf, just curious, I’ve just experienced my first imax dtsx 4K Blu-ray, and it was great. But, where can I get the imax trailer you used at the beginning here in its native form? Thanks in advance. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheRafcave]

Hey Duane, I made a audio demo video where I put links In the description to download them. 😉

[@Test-Pilot1194]

THE RAFCAVE thanks man, il scout your Chanel for it. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Test-Pilot1194]

THE RAFCAVE large list haha! Any idea what it was called?👍🏻👍🏻

[@pedrofmc0000]

@@Test-Pilot1194 Maybe you can find something here: www.demo-world.eu/

[@andersonsampaio5133]

Where can I download this demo clips? IMAX and DTS?

[@TheRafcave]

Watch my kodi demo videos. They have links In the description.

[@andersonsampaio5133]

@@TheRafcave found it ty !!

[@aaron0089]

how did you get that imax intro😭😭??? please tell me brother...

[@TheRafcave]

the digital theater.com

[@joseismelreyes3879]

hello ... what differences do you notice when lowering the receiver crossover 120hz to 90hz in the bass still still confused in that. in hz the basses are more intense .. ???

[@TheRafcave]

Hi, I lowered the hz for the bass because I wanted less upper end bass. I just don't want bass hz too high. My speakers can handle that stuff. I want my subs to just handle lower hz information.

[@DauntlessDamian]

@@TheRafcave Great video, but what happens to the LFE track frequencies between 90-120hz?

[@rts100x5]

I love my Marantz as well (7703) driving an Emotiva XPA7 + 4 Elura LCR8 speakers for atmos...All my speakers are DIY with 9" Morel woofers so I too have my xovers set to 40hz but all the way around ...I gave up on conventional subwoofers after buying into all the hype about Dayton Ultimax....Now running Stereo Integrity IB24 and let me tell you it shames 95% of the subs on the market..Soon will be adding a 2nd one.....I get ultra low bass - like down into the single digits which most subs can only dream about...Like your no nonsense video - If you want to take that system to the next level , I highly recommend a Dirac Live processor....Dirac is night and day difference over Audessy...

[@beartube86]

I got my klipsch Rs 100 set to 120 htz

[@mark17840]

ME TO AT 120HZ LFE

[@bricebush447]

Thank you RAF ur the best man. Another great video. I will say in ur videos u are so detailed in what ur explaining it really helps. Thanks again 👍👍

[@TheRafcave]

Your welcome Brice! 😊

[@MrArjanOskam]

I have a question! I have a 7.2 Surround setup. 4x Klipsch R-620F 2x Klipsch R-51M 1x Klipsch R-52C 2x Klipsch R-100SW Now I have the R-620Fs for the front and the back. But I don't have the option to mark the back speakers as "Large" So what should I do? Should I mark the front as "Large" and the backs as "Small" even tho they are the same?

[@TheRafcave]

I would try small for both so you still get a smoother bass response in the room.

[@MrArjanOskam]

@@TheRafcave Thanks for the quick response! They go down to 38hz, should I put them on 60hz crossover then?

[@TheRafcave]

@@MrArjanOskam If you feel your subs are great then try 60hz fronts and 80hz for the rears. See how it sounds. Your ears are the answer.

[@MrArjanOskam]

@@TheRafcave Thanks for the advice!😁

[@taheralikhan5771]

Hi I have home theatre 7.1 setup My speaker is focal sopra n2 Frequency response 34Hz-40khz Center focal Electra Frequency response 55Hz-40khz Surround focal 800v Frequency response75Hz-28khz Back surround focal 806v Frequency response 55Hz-28khz My subwoofer definitive technology power field reference Frequency 11Hz-200Hz What is the my set up perfect crossover please suggest me thank you 🙏🏾

[@TheRafcave]

40 60 80 60 120

[@taheralikhan5771]

@@TheRafcave front large or small Only LFE OR LFE+main sir Thank you once again

[@taheralikhan5771]

@@TheRafcave ok thank you for your cooperation Last one confusion Small or large LFC only or LFC +MAin please reply sir

[@TheRafcave]

Small & LFE only

[@taheralikhan5771]

@@TheRafcave thank you sir your valuable solution It’s 40 60 80 60 bass will be more know I want detail sound what can I do?

[@godfather1116]

Thanks man, I just installed my new marantz and audyssey did it's thing. I have 2 Klipsch R-SW115's but the bass was lacking. I will try your settings when I get home today.

[@TheRafcave]

Awesome Fred! Let me know If It helps. 😉👌🏽

[@godfather1116]

@@TheRafcave I can hear deep bass now for movies and such, tremendous difference from 120 to 90. I have 2 15inch (R-115sw). Also I'm a DJ as well so I have plenty of high quality music videos, music (stereo)(AAC 2.0) still lacks some bass. If you know any tips and tricks on the marantz let me know :) thanks.

[@TheRafcave]

@@godfather1116 Try Main+LFE Is the Bass setting

[@godfather1116]

@@TheRafcave i'll try it :) thank you sir!

[@godfather1116]

@@TheRafcave DONE! Bass has returned! TY sir!!!

[@aussieexpat]

So what happens to LFE audio above 80hz? Just dump it?

[@TheRafcave]

That Information goes to the rest of your speakers

[@aussieexpat]

@@TheRafcave but that setting is independent of your other cross overs. What if none of your other speakers cross overs are below the LPF on your LFE? I think youre misunderstanding the feature. The LPF on LFE is not there to feed your mains signal from the LFE channel. Its there to apply a LPF on the LFE channel. Its NOT a crossover. Some discs erroneous have full range signal on the LFE channel. The LPF is there to correct that.

[@TheRafcave]

@@aussieexpat The Idea Is If you want a cleaner sound you don't send LFE signals to your speakers regardless if the track is full range. The balance Is a universal 80hz crossover setting for your speakers to not reproduce effects below 80hz. Leave that to the subwoofer. Anything above 80hz will go to your speakers to produce a cleaner sound overall.

[@aussieexpat]

@@TheRafcave I think you're misunderstanding that "LFE" refers to the input signal from the disk, NOT a crossover setting for your sub. LPF on LFE, is literally a Low Pass Filter on the low frequency effects channel. It's not a crossover, anything above 80hz on that LFE channel is being dumped. The spec for LFE goes up to 120hz.

[@MiG-40i]

@@TheRafcave no it doesnt. lfe channel stands on its own. everything you cut of... will not be sent to other speakers. when you set it at 80... you loos all information from the lfe between 80 and 120hz. that's a fact, not a thought

[@oszkarhathazi2305]

Two problems with what you said. 1. I saw in the beginning of the video with the Imax demo that you have turned on audyssey - reference. Let me tell you , that what you set in the manual / crossover settings , means jack-squat ....nada. So what you showed is 0. Because Audyssey uses the large/small and the crossover settings that it detected. Not what you set in manual config. 2. If you set you fronts to LARGE what you set in the crossover frequency means nada again.When it’s set to large it receives the full range. To complicate the situation , it DOES mean something else ...when the fronts are set to Large and the Bass is set to Lfe + Main , what frequency you set in the Crossover menu dictates what kind of bass goes into the subs from the front channel. In your case you have full range sound in tour fronts +

[@TheRafcave]

1. I turned Audyssey off now. 2. Your saying my subs are only receiving 40hz and below now?

[@oszkarhathazi2305]

THE RAFCAVE No and Yes. No - Your subs are getting 90Hz and below from the LFE channel. Because of the LFE setting. Yes - your subs are getting 40Hz and below from the front left + front right channels. This is because you have set the the speakers Large and at the same time you have the “+ mains” setting on. When you have the lfe+main on , it sends the bass (The frequency you set in the crossovers menu) from the fronts to the subs.

[@TheRafcave]

@@oszkarhathazi2305 LFE only now set. Crossover for subs 120hz. I'll compare scenes with this setting. But ultimately If It doesn't sound good. Then back I go. It's all about room dimensions and speaker set ups that make It all sound differently. Thanks Oscar. 👍🏽

[@joshpeters7392]

I hate to argue with you Oscar - but you're wrong. The manual settings WILL override what Audyssey has configured. If you're in any doubt of this, max out your center and lower the sound to all of the other speakers and you'll mostly only get sound from the center. When Audyssey is enabled, you're not able to change the EQ curve for your speakers (Audyssey does that), there is a high end rolloff that is enabled, and a handful of other things, but everything that you can set manually, distance, volume, crossovers, to large / small settings will override what Audyssey has. Second experiment if you still have doubts is to turn your crossovers to 250 on all speakers, and unplug your sub. You'll have nothing below 250.

[@oszkarhathazi2305]

Josh Peters Ok , it would be nice if it would be like you said. I will try out the 250hz crossover setting , and report back. Thx.

[@MrBravo143]

This settings doesn't work for me. The ceiling channels crossover too low and you gonna miss some information there. The LFE left to 90 Hz is not a wise decision as it is separate channel and independent from crossover, if a producer or sound FX guy intended to send sound above 90hz to LFE, you gonna totally miss all the information. For example; a gunshot that might have information of 110hz that send to LFE to give you more impact effect. All those details will be lost and it cannot send to any other speakers.

[@TheRafcave]

Thanks, totally experimental. 👍🏽

[@MiG-40i]

that is true... glad to see other people understood how lfe works👍

[@ryanrodriguez70]

I’m really confused how are you able set ur front stage to 40hrz when ur speaker are set too large?

[@TheRafcave]

The Marantz still let's me set the crossover range even still set to large. It's just another way of saying full range.

[@karmaaffects1111]

Ryan, it is only possible when lfe+main is enabled.

[@ferdinandgleinser2681]

I'm confused too. At denon the crossovers get greyed out as soon as you set a speaker to large. Is it possible that, because your speaker is set to Large, the crossover is basically just ignored by the Software, ass all the bass of the F+L channel goes to the F+L speakers anyways? I mean, If the crossover would still apply in "Large", why set the Mains to "Large" at all?

[@DauntlessDamian]

@@ferdinandgleinser2681 The crossover for "Large" speakers will be available if the Sub is set to LFE + Main. Using the crossover with a "Large" speaker tells the Amp/Receiver to send the lower frequencies not just to the speaker but also to the Sub. Essentially you are having both the "Large" speaker handle it's own bass and letting the Sub do it as well for extra emphasis. This creates a lot more information for the Sub(s) to manage.

[@wyatt2439]

Free Your Mind

[@zemansk7888]

Nice video. You might want to set your settings to auto correct spelling

[@c0uchsl0uch]

Tom Sawyer

[@TheRafcave]

🧐

[@NeuralX000]

If your front are large you can not set crossover

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Makes no sense to set your mains to large. You're obviously a novice. I don't know where to begin as almost everything you've stated is wrong. Your premise that setting your speakers to large makes them sound fuller is just not right since setting them to small will direct the bass to your sub. I think most people's subs are more capable than their mains. If not, they have bigger issues. It's not like your reducing bass, you're just redirecting it to a sub that can handle bass bette. LFE is not the same as bass management and is meant to go to 120Hz. The reason you don't like it this high is either your subs really suck, their placement is not optimized or both. Why would you not want the consistency of the bass from all speakers coming from the same place and the same driver. Your way some channels handle bass less competently than others and sound different as well. The ultimate goal after all is for all channels to sound the same with maximum cohesiveness. Your Klipsch speakers can't handle 50Hz like a sub. I personally use two 24" sub's in my Home Theater.

[@MrPhirit]

carlos oliveira, you are also wrong Tower speakers do sound fuller when playing a full signal. Thats why in 2 channel playback a lot of us prefer that without subs. Yes the subs handles the bass better but it is a different sound hence IT IS HIS PREFERENCE. By the way he has 5 subs so the audible rolloff is not the same as say if he had one or two subs. There is a good amount of energy enveloping him from all those drivers. Not everyone wants heavy midbass the danger with subs is the room itself and I have no problem with His choice to roll off the subs that steep at the midbaas point. he does have lfe + main have the subs play the lower frequencies that would otherwise not be audible fro his fronts so I see no issues with his setup. What most people don't understand about THX speakers is that most are small and rated at 70hz hence the 80hz crossover. I bet you this home cinema sounds better than your so called "correct" one. The only issue I have with him is not setting LFE to 120hz as he will miss content from that channel. And just incase u haven't heard those RF 7s play music at full range u won't understand what I'm saying

[@sutraleticsssutraleticss5001]

@@MrPhirit totally agree! The THX standard of 80hz was made for small satellite sub speakers, not essentially for large towers. why deprive them of what they are meant to do? I have experimented with both and I kid you not, setting towers to Full Band totally changes the sound on a different level. I also would like the LPF set to 120hz.

[@josefermalino461]

Ur subs are useless because u want to hear bass on ur all speakers...

[@TheRafcave]

They're not useless, I just want MORE BASS.

[@deepakmohan1704]

LFE+main will mess up the bass. Will it not? When the room calibration/correction was done, the assumption was the sub will take care of the bass. If mains are also playing the same, I can see a lot of boominess happening. I could be wrong.

[@TheRafcave]

@@deepakmohan1704 The fronts will share the bass with the subs. I have dual 10" woofers In my front towers so the can pump good bass too. It's room/equipment dependant. And also personal preference. 🙂

[@joshpeters7392]

@@TheRafcave Jose is kind of correct here. The lower you set your crossovers on front and surround speakers, the less bass your sub will produce. And in almost all cases, 40 hz on a really good sub is going to blow away 40 hz on any other speaker in your system.

[@TheRafcave]

I'm at 80hz all speakers, and Sub out only @120hz. John wick sounded spectacular!

[@CookieMurderer123]

Crossover completely wrong

[@TheRafcave]

There Is no "right" crossover