The MATTER over THREAD Curtain System, From ZemiSmart!

[@andreasevans]

What weight of curtain can the motor cope with? For example would lined & inter-lined full length (2.3m) heavy grade fabric work?

[@homekitnews]

@@andreasevans hi, unfortunately there’s no information from ZemiSmart regarding the torque of the motor, so I can’t give you an answer. As it’s mains powered though, it should be able to deal with 2.m length curtains, but that also depends on how wide the curtains are too of course.

[@RickyAngg]

Hi it’s me again, do you know how to make this curtain work to 1 direction only? Because after i assemble the curtain, it only work ini 2 direction?

[@homekitnews]

Opening from just one side is possible, and I’ve been able to do it, but it took a lot of trial and error to get it to work. ZemiSmart would be in the best position to advise on this, as the set up procedure may have changed since I last tried it.

[@Jam-tp3mp]

Is it possible to have the motor on the right hand side rather than left? Also are there any adapters for curved / bay window tracks?

[@homekitnews]

You can place the track and motor either way. I don’t think they supply curved tracking for this, but you can check on their website - www.zemismart.com

[@AlexWeiner]

I got a couple of these and setup was simple though the first attempt resulted in a faulty gear box that takes like 30 seconds to change direction. I tried repairing it myself but the inner mechanics were too much for my pea brain and I probably just voided the warranty. After giving up on it I tried again with the 2nd box and it went perfectly. I’m really happy with it but just confused about how the 1st one went wrong.

[@homekitnews]

Did you try resetting and reinstalling the first motor? Sometimes that’s all it takes, although in the case of the slow reaction times, I’m not sure what that could be.

[@AlexWeiner]

No the motor is fine and seems super solid. I’ve reseated it many times. The gear box it connects to is the problem. Inside the gear box you’ll find two spools to wind up the metal belt which are driven by the motor one at a time. The gear system responsible for switching between the spools seems not to work if the tension isn’t right. I tried re-tensioning the spools to no avail.

[@AlexWeiner]

I suppose I could ask the company to provide a repair guide but honestly I don’t really expect that level of support from a Chinese company. It does seem like a quality product though so I could be wrong.

[@AlexWeiner]

Btw @homekitnews do we still not have any good Thread dimmer switch alternatives to the Wemo? I really want something with 3-way support and dimming.

[@homekitnews]

@@AlexWeiner I’m not aware of any Thread dimmers aside from the Wemo yet, but it can’t be long before they appear on the market.

[@Faber_gs]

Great video! I have a quick question, do you know how can I reset the motor limits? I turned the motor for pairing before connecting to the track and the limits are now all incorrect :/

[@homekitnews]

I believe if you press the set button 4 times, it will reverse the direction, but it should also reset the limits. You can then press it four times again to revert to the right direction.

[@Faber_gs]

@@homekitnews Hmm, thanks for the tip, but for some reason the carriers dont stop in the middle and just keeps going until the end of the track, once it reaches the end I cant open or close anymore since they are kinda "stuck"

[@homekitnews]

It sounds like you haven’t secured one part. Did you follow the instructions fully? Here the link to the full installation video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojTiX6DeZ5ljas

[@Faber_gs]

@@homekitnews that was it! I got confused in the locking part, I thought the "positioner" was the actual lock that I removed in the first steps ahahaha now it all makes sense, everything is secured in place and I was able to reset the limits with the reverse tip... Thank you so much!!!!

[@homekitnews]

Glad it worked. I had the same issue when I first tested out the motor.

[@FrancoFinance]

Can you provide a link to those wall S brackets you mentioned? The device just arrived and I forgot to order the S brackets you mentioned

[@homekitnews]

Hi, unfortunately these are from an older curtain motor system they provided, so they didn’t come with the setup in the video. I did see them on their website before, but I can’t see them now.

[@FrancoFinance]

@@homekitnews any suggestions on what I can do to find some S shaped brackets that would work for the set up?

[@homekitnews]

@FrancoFinance I’ll speak to my contact at ZemiSmart, as they should know. I’ll get back to you, but if you email me at info(at)homekitnews.com, I can reply, communicating any info in that way.

[@michaelthompson657]

I wondered when a Matter over thread one would come out!

[@klur1523]

Does this have a camera feed? Also I saw there was usb C port, can this be used for power?

[@homekitnews]

I think you may have the wrong video, this is a curtain motor, not a camera.

[@bradleybanker4427]

How do you get these to work with a single curtain? Don't want the center opening.

[@homekitnews]

It is possible according to ZemiSmart, and I managed to get it to work once, although it took a lot of fiddling around, to the point that I wasn’t even sure what it was that achieved it.

[@juliusk5613]

Great video. Quick question. It is possible to cut the extension tracks to any size with a saw?

[@homekitnews]

I guess you could, although you’d have to make it a clean cut, but you shouldn’t need to - unless you wanted it to be less than 1 metre in width. With the curtain extension hooks you can have the track slightly shorter than required, and still have the curtain go further than the track.

[@Gildote]

What about the 90 degree can I add?

[@homekitnews]

@@Gildote do you mean vertical blinds?

[@Gildote]

@@homekitnews no my window is in L i need curve 90 degree

[@homekitnews]

@gilbertoperezdothe4467 as far as I’m aware, they only make straight curtain tracks, due to the mechanism inside needing a straight line. You can’t use other tracks with this system.

[@Branagorn]

Any idea if this motor would be compatible with track from a different manufacturer? This is almost perfect, but I am being held off by the ugly looking track joiners (buckles) and ceiling mounts. I do wonder if I could let go of this. The perfect one in this regard would be the Quoya QL600, but that one is Wi-Fi and not matter compatible.

[@homekitnews]

It’s possible, but I think possibly unlikely. The motor and the way the track’s internal mechanisms work are quite specific in how they work together.

[@rossplyler4424]

Does this work with the ripple fold, s-fold?? Have older version that had to change runner. Thinking of this for new windows.

[@homekitnews]

Sorry, I had to look up these as I’ve never heard of them before. I can’t say for sure, but if it’s just down to the parts that sit in the track, then I can’t see why not as long as they fit.

[@marcoss3145]

Can the track be cut to fit the length of the window?

[@homekitnews]

You could cut it, but you would need a decent tool to ensure the track isn’t bent or otherwise ruined in doing so. With the different sized pieces for the track it shouldn’t be necessary for most use cases.

[@kirylbabrou]

Hey, I want to get this curtain system and add it to my Apple Home. Do I need to get a HomePod mini/HomePod first or it could be any other device (bridge etc)?

[@homekitnews]

Hi, you would need a HomePod Mini/HomePod (2nd gen), or an Apple TV4K with Thread to get this into Apple Home. This is for two reasons; Apple Home needs a Matter Controller, which can be any of the Apple TVs or HomePods, but you also need one of these with a Thread Border Router (TBR) inside. If you have already got one of these, but without a TBR, you might be able to use another device with a TBR, like the latest Google Nest Hubs to act as a TBR but it’s a bit more complicated tbh, and I couldn’t explain it in this one reply.

[@kirylbabrou]

@@homekitnews Sweet, thanks. I got two more questions 1. Can it be adjusted to open to one side (left to right and back) 2. Could you tell me what is the width of the track please because I can't find it anywhere, that would be much appreciated. Thanks

[@homekitnews]

@@kirylbabrou the track width is 40mm, but this increases to 50mm for the plastic end sections. As regards opening from just one side, it is possible, and I’ve been able to do it, but it took a lot of trial and error to get it to work. ZemiSmart would be in the best position to advise on this, as the set up procedure may have changed since I last tried it.

[@juliusk5613]

Does the curtains motor act as a Thread Router or just as an Endpoint?

[@homekitnews]

That’s a good question. even though it has a battery, it’s only for emergency use, so its natural state is powered, which should mean it’s a router device. Unfortunately I can’t say categorically whether that’s the case, as this info is only visible in the Eve for HomeKit app, but Matter over Thread devices dont give you the same level of detail as HomeKit over Thread devices do.

[@juliusk5613]

⁠​⁠@@homekitnewsThank you for your reply. That’s exactly what I also thought. It would be great if the curtain motor works as a router. In that case, I could have a strong Thread Network Mesh in each room. 🤞

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Have you found any information on this? I too would want a thread router

[@juliusk5613]

@@Chronically_ChiIIUnfortunately, no. I haven’t bought the curtain motor yet. There are not many reviews online about the product. Seems curtain motors are quite a niche product.

[@rashmithalokireddy4638]

Hi, do you have any pictures or videos of how it gets installed on the wall with the wall brackets? Also i have ordered this matter over thread product but the max 0verload is 50kgs for the draperies but mine are very heavy draperies they weigh about 60 kgs and i see on their website that Tuya Zigbee ZM79-ZB has a max overload of 80 kgs for 240 inches. What do you suggest to do? its very expensive almost the product price to return the product.

[@homekitnews]

I don't have a video showing this type of installation, but there should be many videos that show this type of installation. It does depend on the type of material you're drilling into as well. If your curtains are over the maximum weight limit for the motor, I suggest you cancel the order. The other model you mention should work, and as long as you have either of the company's HomeKit-compatible hubs, it'll be visible to your HomeKit setup (assuming you want to expose it to HomeKit).

[@riccardo12158]

Thank you for the great video! I just purchased two of the HomeKit versions, without realising that this model with Matter is presumably newer and better. Since they cost the same, would you suggest canceling my order and going with this? They are gonna have the same level of integration with HomeKit won't they? Thanks again!

[@homekitnews]

Hi, glad you liked the video. Yes the HomeKit integration will essentially be the same. If you don’t mind using WiFi, then the Matter over Thread ones are not really any different. If you want to start moving towards a Matter smart home however, then I think it might be a good idea to get these instead.

[@riccardo12158]

@@homekitnews I'm not sure I understood the part about using WiFi (sorry, I'm a bit of a noob). The reasons that would make prefer the Matter model are the manual mode (which is absent in the HomeKit version), and the fact that the product will be compatible from the get-go with HomeKit, Alexa and Google, should I ever change my mind (about using just the HomeKit architecture). Thanks!

[@homekitnews]

@riccardo12158 sorry, I assumed the older ones used WiFi, but I can’t be sure. The Matter over Thread is definitely more future proof, so as long as you have an Apple Home Hub, or a Matter controller of some sort for other platforms, you’re good to go.

[@zemismartofficial]

Nice video~

[@miamifriends2359]

What app I need to? I didn’t find apple home. Also my sutra is works opposite , open when I push close and open when push close. Used to works properly now This problem

[@homekitnews]

What app did you use to set it up originally?

[@ameenu]

Nice matter to the win

[@kanzai12]

Nice! This perfect for our home setup. Could it be plugin with solar power?

[@homekitnews]

Hi, I’m not sure it would work with solar power as it wouldn’t usually produce enough power for the motor, but I’ll ask ZemiSmart to make sure.

[@kanzai12]

@@homekitnews yeah the reason why I need solar cuz my windows far away from outlet

[@kannanp6212]

How do buy

[@homekitnews]

There’s a link in the description where you can buy it.

[@UberHackersCom]

This device is crap, I was sent one and it is doa and the manufacturer refuses to even talk to me

[@homekitnews]

Sounds like you got a faulty one. I’ve had mine since January and it works without a problem, apart from the disconnection issue I mention in the video. Maybe I can help to get them to contact you.