Homemade electric forge (melting aluminum)

I built this electric furnace out of a old paint bucket , I covered the inside with a refractary material ( 1/2 plaster and 1/2 sand). The heating elements are from an electric stove top.
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[@jamesdellaquila1939]

Taking it to the next level! This guy is melting metal while still inside house and pours it in his house with no shoes on! 👍

[@tikfsweden]

Nicely produced tutorial.

[@taow]

Awesome video! Looks like an awesome and clean way to melt aluminium!

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

Wow thanks for the comment! that's what I'm going to use it for, next video will be a lost wax cast aluminum slingshot.

[@ryanmaddry768]

+Wood'n Tech no, next vid is going to be you in the hospital getting skin grafts on your feet because you dont use proper safety precaution. Come on man, at least do some research and get proper equiptment. that molten aluminum will melt through your flesh MUCH quicker than that hdpe bucket..

[@jstuyfzand5467]

I like how you have researched electric foundrys using this video for your own ;)

[@ryanmaddry768]

+Joep Stuyfzand just seeing what kind of dumb ideas people have lol. but yes this video is a perfect example of what not to do. you will learn bud, most likely the hard way.

[@jstuyfzand5467]

Ryan Maddry I just mean that you can see that he watched videos regarding electric foundrys because he was building his own, He released his own video a few days ago, its a great foundry

[@LWolf12]

That's really cool.

[@yescoolme421]

Wow! You're fast!

[@bjornhettema460]

the safety is real

[@lorenzoricheri4485]

easy fast dangerous excellent good job dude

[@DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

Dear god man, if you're going to use exposed electric heating elements, at least have an earth line attached to the bits of metal you touch, such as the outside of the bucket, the lid and the crucible.

[@randybmx]

Alan Bacon please expound upon this idea, or if you have relatable material, that'd be great.

[@DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

randybmx I have actually just about finished my own version. All earthed up of course. First tests this weekend so I may be dead by Monday ;)

[@randybmx]

Alan Bacon def make a video

[@jagboy69]

Hope he films it when a crucible fails. Should knock out power for the entire city BLOCK! I fear for humanity.

[@technolentz7816]

Dude I read that on how deforest Kelley would of and roflol. I agree with you though

[@mikealman63tab]

LOL yea u do need to practice BUT at least your giving it a go an even the best have to start at the beginning so well done an I enjoyed your efforts, good to see ya experimenting. a very good example is a young lad (art of weapons) I think, who has made many vids an to his credit usually leaves in any "fails" which is helpful, but he has improved beyond belief an so can you if you strive to improve an push the boundaries, keep em coming :-)

[@RED-hb1di]

I would like to see how you made the foam cutter, and nice video by the way

[@user-yj9ic9ll5q]

can you tell me what contraption do you use to connect the cable with the heat elements ?

[@randybmx]

this is what I'm talkin about!!! what was resistance of wires? cuz if i can make it from Kenthal, i will

[@private_debil6033]

this is going to help me do my project

[@ashwynn4177]

I made a similar kiln, it melted aluminum well enough but it totally failed to melt aluminum filings and powder! Please does anyone know why? Thanks

[@asad-gw8qp]

I work in the field of smelting aluminum scrap, but a lot of molten metal mixed with slag and lost sludge dam What materials should be added to separate the aluminum from slag without loss

[@richardw6775]

dont do a lost foam casting inside. it releases some nasty fumes that stink and might kill you if not in a ventalated area. also put some sand against your walls of your plastic bucket before you pour. as you learned. good video good information.

[@shrawalrp]

Whats is the power usage....i m planning to two coils 1500W each ...is it enough ??

[@f4rr4l67]

Omg I really remember first time this video!

[@jamesallen6007]

Good idea. Thanks.

[@jthewelshwarlord6331]

Make a transformer and use a variable resistor for more heating capabilities unless they burn out at 800℃+

[@FalconFastest123]

Wow, this seems way better and cheaper than using coals or propane. Cool! Does it matter what kind of heating elements you use or will any stove top elements work?

[@PrivateNexus36]

One guy used a kiln heating element, and it worked wonders. And, did this person just attach the wires and directly plug it in the wall??

[@scaryballoonfish8989]

Actually it is not cheaper. Uses a lot of electricity also higher risk of getting shocked to shit.

[@PrivateNexus36]

But you must also understand tat electricity at this scale is not that expensive. per kilowatt hour, at least where i live, is about $.09 . That means, with a 1200 watt heating element like i have, it will cost me 9 cents. But with a pound of coal, which may last about an hour, it will cost you at least $5 or more and will not do any better accept maybe heat up a bit faster and get hotter. But that is not a problem when all you are doing is melting aluminium and other low temp metals. The shock is not a problem if you are not an idiot. Yes, if you leave the wires open and bare, first of all you are an idiot, and second of all, you may get shocked if you some how touch it. But if you are at least slightly smarter than a chimpanzee you wont have to worry about these things.

[@PrivateNexus36]

i meant about 10 cents XD

[@mareksvrcina5279]

Rex Erection maybe you can buy it on eBay, it’s very cheap. If you want to make one yourself you have to first get yourself a high electrical resistance wire with high melting point a high corrosion resistance, then wind it. You can buy such wire on eBay :) It is called nichrome or kanthal alloy.

[@manofmesopotamia7602]

Did you think of measuring the temperature 🤔?

[@mohamedgaied8826]

can i use the hairdryer coils instead plz answer me

[@SeverinoBiil]

tel me how to do this kind of heating element. the tyni of the wire and the name of it please.

[@oncapintada9790]

works with concrete or cement in the place of plaster? in brazil dont have this

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Solitude Guard yes I guess you could try with cement simply it's more expensive than plaster

[@bryannoyce]

there are a number of these refractory recipes out there, I have used perlite, fire clay, and Portland cement. I have heard of others using just sand and Portland cement. If you search "DIY refractory mix" you will find a lot of stuff. Some people use just tightly packed fire clay.

[@expeloco]

Cara, plaster é gesso!

[@mustafa501M]

could you share with us what kind of electrical equitpment you used to connect this to an outlet? im assuming theres more to it than just soddering the coil to a pronged cable? or..

[@bryannoyce]

you could add a switch!

[@nickhetzer2744]

no he youst did this

[@jakekimds]

What stove is the coil from? Induction stoves don't have resistance coils as far as I know.

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Jake Kim (jakekimds) yeah I ment just electric stove.

[@jakekimds]

Thanks.

[@JackieTheVampire]

This is so so cool

[@toomajtoomaj1908]

thanks...very good

[@romix6369]

Dear what insulation you are using on your copper wires? If your forge melts aluminium, it'll burn pvc off as well, and short it. It'll be alot better if you drill two separate holes for each wire. What aloy you using for the heating coil? How long it lasts?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Romix There is a hole for each wire I'm using the coil salvaged from an electric stove top

[@kimkimsen3876]

It looks great. I just wunder if it gets as hot as gas or coal driven furnices, it doesnt look as redglowing to me.Do you know if it gets hot enough to melt glass?Finally how much power does it take-is it costly?Thanks for a great video.

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Kim Kimsen I have only tried melting aluminum and I have no idea how much power it takes as I plug it directly into the wall with no meter and I'm pretty sure it will not melt glass

[@kimkimsen3876]

Well its still very nice. Thanks again.

[@ryanjames440]

Nice vid

[@lbbicer5945]

Beautiful job. How hot is the heat

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+levent bicer I haven't measured, I only know it's just enough to melt aluminium.

[@dougstergaming5173]

Next video you should make a container for when you pour the aluminum

[@KINGYAMAHA]

Touch the steel crucible to those exposed live wires and you are going to have a bad day..

[@alan30189]

KING KAWI Yes! Not worth the risk, plus these take forever to heat up. Use propane or charcoal.

[@BillyBob-qu1fs]

@@alan30189 If you're that worried about it then just unplug it before you grab the crucible. It's like saying that a propane fired furnace could burn you! With charcoal you could burn your house down! Ahhhh! And with all three you could dump molten metal on accident and really hurt yourself!

[@skamirul2851]

tell me how to make a avon

[@sessiztepe3350]

amazingggg

[@DimaProk]

Can you please explain the difference between two coils? It appears that first coil is some heating element coil, but the 2nd coil.... did you get both coils from the same electric pot?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Dima Prok yes they are the same type ,just one is flat and the other one is round.

[@jansefcik6770]

Když tak koukám na zásuvku, ČR, SR, Polsko?? Kde se ještě používají tyhle zásuvky?! :-D or french electrical socket?

[@TheDIYMaster]

Nice I could make that. Sorry I haven't put a video lately I'll do it soon

[@juliocesardemoraesbarros5585]

how much Watt's o consumption?

[@naveendarahas1759]

3:13 how to make the vessel for melting the aluminium bro plz explain

[@aidenstoudt]

Little late but you don't actually need to make anything. Just use a steel container (steel has about double the melting point) www.steelforge.com/literature/metal-melting-ranges/ Just make sure you don't let it get too hot.

[@tomicooltomi]

This is not from an induction stove since inductions use pipes which make magnetic fields.

[@boredhands6498]

You have a point there

[@davidbennett1451]

I HAVE A QUESTION . IN STEAD OF USING FUEL AS IN PROPANE OR DIESEL . OR CHARCOAL,, BUT THE HEATER COIL THAT IS IN THE BACK OF A DYER. YES THE NICE SIZE BUT DO THE WALLS BUT THEN PLACE THE HEATER COIL WRAP AROUND THE INSIDE. BUT IT IS A 110 . DUE TO YES IT IS 220 BUT 110 GOES TO HEATER AND THE OTHER 110 GOES TO THE MOTOR.. I HAVE REMOVED THE COIL FROM THE UNIT . BUT IT IS ALL READY SET UP. .. WITH THE CERAMIC LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.. .

[@hiteckredneck129]

So you may want to think about how much the element will draw. Most 240V dryers draw 25 - 30A. At 120/125v your looking at a ballpark of 50 to 60A. In that case you need the appropriate wire size maybe a #6 of #4 and probably a subfeed from your electrical panel to a welding type receptacle. Because it is a resistance element the shorter you cut it the less it will draw as resistance heating is self regulating. Try a shorter element @ 120v because the length of the element is proportional to the value in ohms to the element. Half an element is roughly half the amps. Make sure you use crimped connections to your wire and not wire nuts or solder. Most of all stay safe.

[@BratLemi]

hiteckredneck129 Garinger you actually understood him? Kudos :D

[@walterborgia7536]

congratulations. can you give the list of the materials? To build. Please

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+lado tWb it is in the description :-)

[@walterborgia7536]

thanks

[@boredhands6498]

And his furnace design AND his casting method

[@danaagus571]

nice

[@NOSKHEMTHEANTICHRIST]

melt outside cast inside ... great

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+NOSKHEMTHEANTICHRIST wat?

[@scaryballoonfish8989]

Well you almost spilled molten aluminum everywhere when you were casting in a plastic container inside...

[@sebastiankusyk7764]

Can I use a ceramic flowerpot as a crucible?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

I wouldn't recomend it

[@ninjaturtlemarkchulo7290]

dat was kool

[@joshrudelic1860]

Can anyone recommend a good crucible? Perhaps and old paint can? I am looking to melt aluminum as well so keep that in mind.

[@jonathanvandusen1232]

I personally use a small propane tank that would have been used for a stove. I cut the top 1/8 of the tank off

[@joshrudelic1860]

thank you, I will keep that in mind

[@FalconFastest123]

I used an old fire extinguisher. I used an electric saw to cut off the right size, but a simple hack saw can do it to.

[@alltypeauto2982]

Josh Rudelic the best thing to use is a graphite crucible because it's impossible to melt

[@Toto-ko5on]

Stainles steel pipe.Cheap and longlife. Graphite for gold, silver and other sexy metals.

[@bluefernlove]

How many cans did you use for that melt?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

About 10 cans is enough.

[@user-iy8vz7zb7v]

اديش درجة الحراره

[@phxtonash]

Very cool! Have you tryed the cuttle fish bone method?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

I haven't yet,I will as soon as I find some !!

[@phxtonash]

+Wood'n Tech Wal-Mart in gold fish section. or pet store. they feed them to birds it has nutrients they use

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

ho. I didn't know you could buy them ,I was talking about finding one on the beach

[@phxtonash]

+Wood'n Tech finding them on the beach is even cooler

[@TheDIYMaster]

+Wood'n Tech hey man want to collaborate:)

[@stopbeingadick6326]

could you just use ~3mm Nichrome wire for the whole thing?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+arsenicCatnip 3 mm seems OK but be carefull

[@raptordad6653]

Plaster of paris....? isn't that going to crumble almost right away?

[@mdnazim4132]

Good

[@chwanpang4750]

where did you get youre resistence

[@chwanpang4750]

do u have a link

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+ChwanPang now I found them in an electric stove top

[@chwanpang4750]

where did u get the stove

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+ChwanPang we changed stove. But try searching in a junk yard.

[@FF-zt6xu]

_,,

[@iand2825]

can i use nichrome wire??? for electric furnace?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Savage Orc yes sure !

[@mytrips1379]

How many voltage enough to use it?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

230v is enough

[@whothefoxcares]

the audio track for this video does nothing to melt the voice coils in the LOUDSPEAKER

[@SmallGamer7]

And it's a bonne vidéo ^^

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Sirius merci ;-)

[@hamaniyacin8285]

and voila il s'est fait cramer tt seul lol

[@karmelek1ful]

song name please?

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic199]

omg. your floor!

[@stanstrik6651]

where did you buy your heating element

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Stan Strik I found them in and electric stove carte

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

Top*

[@awsome712]

You don’t need to practice, you need to put that shit away before you hurt yourself!!!

[@krivbeknehkami8389]

can this smelt iron?....

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+anthony fitch No I don't think so it's already struggled a bit to melt aluminum a new version of this Forge is on its way.

[@adrianm2271]

Porque hay tanto inglés si es un video español

[@averryy]

5:32 FACE REVEAL!!!

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

Next video : lost wax casting !

[@cheeman770]

Would a toaster resistant wire work?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+OlafurStone Pepe it might be a bit thin and that will cause it to melt before it heats up to a decent temperature.

[@cheeman770]

+Wood'n Tech ok thanks

[@CoolKoon]

Uhm......you think that this promise has been ignored? :P

[@cheeman770]

+CoolKoon I dont understand, what promise?

[@CoolKoon]

What's the maximum temperature it can do?

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+CoolKoon I have only tried and succeeded melting aluminum

[@CoolKoon]

Thanks. I was wondering if it could melt copper, brass or table salt.....

[@jonathanvandusen1232]

+CoolKoon it could probably melt brass. I use a little charcoal foundry that I threw together one day and can begin melting copper. by how quickly this furnace looks to work, I'd say for sure brass, and maybe copper, gold, silver.

[@CoolKoon]

+Jonathan Vandusen Actually brass has a higher melting temperature than pure copper I think. Thus if something is able to melt brass then that implies that the same item can melt copper and salt too.

[@jonathanvandusen1232]

+CoolKoon maximum brass melting point is 1724 °F. Copper is around 1950°F. Table salt is 1474°F. I've been doing this for awhile.

[@GarfieldDK]

i dont think the lid on the cans is aluminum, think u should take it off when u melt cans :) just a thought

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+GarfieldDK cams are usually all aluminum or all Steel . Which is easier for recyclers to process

[@parkerkoughn670]

people always do this indoors

[@camillesennegon]

T'es francais ????

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

+Wood Imagination bah ouai morray!!

[@bloroxcleach896]

music sounds like im farting

[@ssadoo_playz997]

Who noticed the misspelled bucket at 0:32

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

That's cool, but the $500 utility bills would really hurt...

[@george198four]

?

[@CoolKoon]

+george macias He's implying that heating aluminium by electricity is quite expensive and also perhaps that it's inefficient...

[@george198four]

CoolKoon how much would it cost?

[@CoolKoon]

+george macias Unfortunately the guy doesn't mention any power consumption of his improvised furnace. But the 230 V outlet he's using usually can't let more than 15 amps through. That comes out to a maximum consumption of almost 3.5 kW. This means that with every hour of heating he's consuming 3.5 kWh at most. The cost entirely depends on the cost of electricity at your place. But the real question is whether it's cheaper than using a propane furnace or not.....

[@MsSomeonenew]

Well it all depends on your gas and electric prices, in my region a gas forge will set you back about twice as much per hour as an electric would. On top of that a gas forge needs an air outlet which blows a good deal of the heat you need right out the exhaust. But everyone needs to run the numbers for their particular price range.

[@saidgilbygilby6397]

لو فى ترجمه يبقى شئ رائع

[@geraldoderibeirao2347]

can someone please explain to me what the actual fuck is plaster of paris?

[@Theivv]

+Eduardo dudu From what I understand it is basically what most people call plaster. It is made from minerals like gypsium (which is sulfite and calcium). It is not very sturdy, but this type of project doe not need to withstand kinetic abuse, just thermal.

[@geraldoderibeirao2347]

+Theivv IBP ty bro! i didnt know what plaster was, my native language isnt english and i didnt find out what it was on google translate. anyway ty for helping me

[@Theivv]

No worries. That is why I broke down the chemical composition of plasters. Plaster is basically power that will become like a soft cement when mixed with water.

[@jhsyuou]

Face reveal off the cover

[@user-fv7vw3pp5q]

اكو عرب لو بس انا

[@yannmusic2244]

Français ?

[@user-cq1km9qd7p]

زين

[@BespokeCarpentry]

Tom's? Really

[@hgluglhglugl411]

مكيف

[@hullygully-3599]

Nice content. Bloody awful music made me switch off though.

[@RinksRides]

glad youchewb has a mute button!

[@boredhands6498]

He made his videos before u too so yeah. But good job anyways

[@joelraymaley8742]

How is this going to make me money?

[@mattm6178]

too cold

[@StefanBlurr]

it's "steel" not "steal" xD

[@graceshiflett6526]

2 steal plates

[@mhdekamal2316]

Ol

[@daocuster9270]

Scary dangerous!!!!! 240 volts, no earth and steel (conductive) tools and crucible. I wonder what the legal implications of publishing something like this are if someone gets electrocuted. There are not even any warnings about what could happen if you accidently touch one of elements.

[@danobrien3695]

you should have made the music MORE annoying...

[@ccswelding1599]

+Dan O'Brien he probably could've...if he wasn't making the camera work as annoying a possible

[@mlg8010]

I see your face

[@boredhands6498]

Wait I'm a fan of your videos but either u copied king of random's styro slicer or he did your if u did u should at least give him credit

[@Theivv]

+Bored Hands 64 I agree with you. He did go a slightly different route, plus he did not use commentary. I can see how he may have overlooked it. Definitely a thought process worth subscribing to.

[@peterkim8525]

+Theivv IBP thx

[@peterkim8525]

+Theivv IBP I'm the same person as bored hands got a new email

[@JeanDeBaillEngineering]

The king of random never made an electric forge before.

[@Theivv]

Are you saying you did not get the idea of a plaster furnace at all from KoR? If not good on you, if you did just a little shout out would have been cool. Really you went a very different direction, so I understand why you did not mention him, but collaboration is awesome.

[@linusworkshop]

Oh, this is cringeworthy

[@herpmahderpflurpledumunumu7080]

Sooo...are you still alive even ? I mean I dont give a fuck about safety regulations personally but goddamn this is taking it a step or three too far