I work at the factory that actually makes the pre-sized sanding belts and disks. I've been doing it for over 25 years professionally, so it's fascinating to see how it can be done manually on an individual basis. I can't disclose our processes for legal reasons since I like my job. But just a couple of very general points for anyone doing this and having issues with their joint not holding: The shinier and slicker the backing, the harder it is to get your joint to hold. If you score "rough up" the backing before joining your belt ends, you'll get a stronger joint. Adhesive, heat, and pressure will also all effect how well your belt stays together during use. If you're using tape or a patch that has threads, cut your joint angle to more closely match the bias of your patch. A joint is much stronger the less shear it is subjected to.
@SoatMon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding your experience to the conversation!
@fxpestoperator55274 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you Sir!
@alexjohnson95803 жыл бұрын
@@SoatMon You are awesome..... What ever made you think that a blue-jean patch would be strong enough?. Been a carpenter for over 40 years but you prove there is always something NEW...Thank you for the time you have taken to help us slow learners...
@chuckgordon35812 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you're still answering questions here. By less shear do you mean that the threads should align (parallel and perpendicular) with the direction of movement, or with the angle of the splice?
@dukeman75953 жыл бұрын
Say that is a neat trick, I like it very much and will be trying it myself. Thanks for the tip.
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@RustyCas9996 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I have a number of heavy duty sanding belts from a flooring mill sander, 5’ wide by 8’ long. I’ll have sanding belts for life!
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to help!
@llapmsp3 жыл бұрын
What a great idea. I will try this as I have several belts that the original tape dried out and let the belt come apart.
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
Hope it works well for you.!
@BeachsideHank6 жыл бұрын
While still hot, follow up immediately with a wallpaper seam roller to give added bonding strength, just letting it sit while cooling allows for some springback or separation of the two surfaces.
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea! Thanks!
@erfansekh422 жыл бұрын
Hiii
@philipdavison4066sawdust9 ай бұрын
Wow that's fantastic now I've seen your video you will have saved me a bunch, brilliant thank u very much 👍👍👏👏👏🍾🍾🍾
@SoatMon8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome
@ecaff95156 жыл бұрын
Great idea using blue Jean patches I use contact cement and cotton or old blue Jean's. Your joint is strong. Thank you for sharing.
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@abiamiamab9677 Жыл бұрын
Yes... that looks soo much easier then using glue. I could never get it smooth enough.
@SoatMon Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vorsprung2330 Жыл бұрын
Do you also experience seam kickbacks while grinding?
@JoseRodriguez-cg2mv6 жыл бұрын
Thank for the video tutorial. I made a few belts using your method. So far they have held up. I do wood work and metal work, which includes knives. Thank you again.
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, I'm glad they worked out for you!
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@georgechambers31977 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about cutting them down. I have a ton of 6x48 belts and drum sander strips. I'd like to make some for my 2 inch sander. I think I'll be giving this a try. Thanks for sharing this tip!.
@SoatMon7 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, Good luck!
@FASIGMAN3 жыл бұрын
Good idea friend.................
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frankie!
@glennfelpel97857 жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding idea. It is always impressive to see how you come up with uses for things meant for something else. Trouser patches to make sanding belts...who would of thought of that. And it is nice to hear they don't thump. Will be making my own belt not too. Have a good weekend and be safe. Glenn
@SoatMon7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Glenn, I'm glad you found it useful!
@PatriciaSamHouston6 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Wonder if this would work with leather for a wheel strop. Thanks
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
It might. I would probably try some contact cement so you get some soaking into the leather. Interesting idea!
@davidendres78085 жыл бұрын
Hey mate I have followed your instructions but I find the course belts work for a while but have a thump every time the join comes onto the platen and than fail the finer belts fail very quickly what am I doing wrong any help would be great
@R2_D34 жыл бұрын
Linnen-backed is the best for a belt.. (paper is so brittle) Grit 36 is really (to) coarse, grit 60 and up will be better to cut and join. Knee patches is a nice find!! TY! (I think it's best to cut with overlapping belt, that way it will always line-up perfect)
@SoatMon4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input!
@paulcotesr56233 жыл бұрын
will this work on cloth belt to ?
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@defneningunlugu4 жыл бұрын
Hello.your video is very nice.What is the name of the tape you heat with an iron?How can I get this tape? Thank you for helping
@SoatMon4 жыл бұрын
It's am iron on patch for jeans.
@z_polarcat2 жыл бұрын
What’s the benefit of the 45 vs a straight cut?
@44Celt2 жыл бұрын
the work isn't hitting the seam at the same time - less chance of the seam lifting or breaking
@SoatMon2 жыл бұрын
It will decrease the amount of bump on the part when the belt comes around.
@barrychambers40474 жыл бұрын
Use canvas backed abrasive and they won't break. Good tutorial!
@SoatMon4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@NavinBetamax5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if anyone else noticed that at 2:54 ......the belt is slightly off the edge of the wood base while marking the 45 degree angle ......
@newstart495 жыл бұрын
Shhhhh!
@stahl53364 жыл бұрын
Yep you should so angle is measured off edge of belt for both cuts.
@JoeGP3 жыл бұрын
thanks, to be honest your method seems best, other methods always leave a noticeable bump (even OEM/store bought belts), but these iron on patches are not available here (Amazon doesn't ship to my country) so i gotta find something else to use, one of the comments below looked promising though, using contact cement and some old thrift store jeans, i don't supposed duct tape or gaffe tape would work, right ? i guess i gotta try it, but i wanted to see if i can first make my own custom sanding belts since i'd like to build a custom belt sander, something like a 4x72 or 4x96 and those kinda belt are super rare and crazy expensive because of it, but 4" sanding paper is like the default size available anywhere.
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
The first one I made years ago... I used a piece I cut from some old blue jeans and yellow carpenters glue, it worked just fine. I switched to the iron on patch because it's quicker and easier.
@MakingBoost7 жыл бұрын
I love my little 1/2” handheld finger sander. I’d like to make some myself for it... I wonder how the smaller belts would do if the paper was impregnated with an acrylic glue / water (or silicone / mineral spirits) mix? Would it be enough to keep the paper together while remaining flexible? Just a thought.
@SoatMon7 жыл бұрын
You definitely need a stronger belt material like some type of cloth. Thanks for the comment!
@jungsomewhat5 жыл бұрын
Your using your brain.. brilliant, well done UK
@SoatMon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@axnbjsbdudbydvydubu93556 жыл бұрын
it's a bad quality belt. your idea is marvelous. I am thinking of trying this for my mini diy drill press because every rubber belt I put it snapped after heating up. gonna make sure that fabric is cloth though not paper
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input, I agree the belts are poor quality. That explains why I got them so cheap. Good luck with your drill press, I would be interested in your results if you get a chance to try it.
@DoneeJohnson6 жыл бұрын
It may have something to do with the patch material being at 90 degrees to the belt instead of 45 degrees, which might cause the belt to bend back and forth at the point of failure when it's coming around a pulley. I would suggest cutting the belt and the patch at a longer angle like 30 degrees to see if it lets the belt flex more around the pulleys instead of bending. Just a hypothesis, I think it's worth considering, with your setup it would be easy to test, hope it works! I have some unused old 4" X 72" belts that the seams fail immediately on start up with no damage to the belts. I've saved them because I think the seams adhesion failed due to old age and will try your knee patch method. Thank you very much!
@genwiz5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, good info on patch material to join.
@SoatMon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DIY-cu5jp2 жыл бұрын
那是什麼膠帶 那麼強
@garymucher95905 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a quality contact glue spray headliner adhesive like 3M or something like that would work?
@44Celt4 жыл бұрын
I make mine using Evostik contact adhesive - using strips of denim as a backing material. I found that clamping the joint between 2 pieces of wood tightly and leaving for 3 days gave best results
@joell4397 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it failed because of the small diameter wheels? Maybe there is too much flexing required when going around the tight turns on the race track. Regardless, thanks for sharing another useful tip.
@SoatMon7 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@MrCinpro5 жыл бұрын
That's what 8 was thinking the small diameter wheels letting it bend too much
@nimblemotorsports6 жыл бұрын
Did you know the iron-on patches are just hotglue on fabric? The iron melts the hotglue.
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
Yes but thanks for pointing that out.
@ecaff95153 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@willyzook6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you!
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@mikewerner37973 жыл бұрын
What happened to the tip of your index finger😬?
@SoatMon3 жыл бұрын
I don't know I haven't seen it in years!
@davidwilcox38124 ай бұрын
GREAT!
@SoatMon4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@subarutruck16 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks so much!!!!!!
@SoatMon6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment!
@ritaejohn4 жыл бұрын
Tried it lasted only a few minutes the friction between the belt and the metal backing exceeds the temperature of the patch. Catastrophic Failure 101 !!!!! 😢
@shaunwhiteley35447 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you. Cheers
@SoatMon7 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for the comment!
@leonardwilson9803 жыл бұрын
Get you some emery cloth to make the belts out of.
@stuartmarkman7695 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this a long time ago. I can't remember how many belts hit the trash can because of breakage.
@SoatMon5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful.
@Peter-od7op5 жыл бұрын
Ty so much
@SoatMon5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Pikertime4 жыл бұрын
And when you trim, keep your finger out of the way. You only need that warning one time!
@SoatMon4 жыл бұрын
No kidding!!
@canfaller5 жыл бұрын
get you a one inch roll of emery cloth its cloth not paper i like this