Homestead Weapons?

[@tdgdbs1]

I keep a Mosin Nagant and a Taurus 357 magnum at my cabin in Alaska; I'm on a budget and they're serving me well for all my needs.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Every adult everywhere has not only a right but a duty to be prepared and to defend themselves, their loved ones, and strangers from danger and/or evil, everywhere and at all times. Just my thoughts on the matter. Keep up the good work.

[@michaelmichael8406]

No living thing would be pleased to be on the wrong end of either of those.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Agreed.

[@manwichsandwich]

If that’s what you can afford it’s what you can afford. People all over Siberia use mosins.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Exactly. A Ford will get you to the store just as easily as a Ferrari. If it works, it works.

[@marclewis5435]

I was convinced by my grandpa to carry a matching set for my rifle handgun set around the ranch. I’ve got a .357 marlin lever action carbine with a ruger .357 revolver. My other is a Rossi rio 44 mag with a ruger super red hawk in 44 mag.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

He was a very smart man and that is an excellent choice of chambering. I don't think you'll find anyone that could logically argue against your firearm choices either - certainly not I! You'll find many if not most of the guys carrying lever actions and pistols back in the turn of the century west did the exact same thing. It was only after metallurgy advanced and lever actions could withstand the higher pressures of smokeless powder that rifles like the Model 1894 Winchester were chambered for the 30 WCF (30-30). Before that the 32-20 and 38-55 were popular revolver/rifle combination cartridges. These days you see a lot of 9mm, .357 Mag, and 44 Mag carbines on the market. Personally, I'm a fan of the Henry's - nostalgia strikes again I suppose.

[@BCVS777]

I agree that the 12 gauge may the most versatile firearm. There are so many variations of ammo from slugs to bird shot. It is the Jack of all trades gun and will put food on the table as well as keep the wolf from the door.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Versatile to say the least and a must have in my book

[@loquat44-40]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I also have brass shells for 12, 410, and 28 ga. The smaller gauges require less powder and shot for taking small game at closer ranges and pistol primers or rifle primers will work with them. I do need to buy some 25 lb bags of shot. I have a buckshot mold.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

We used to use plastic bullets and cases with a primer for shooting in the basement when I was a kid. Great fun. All you needed was a blanket for a backstop. Of course primers are few and far in between these days.

[@loquat44-40]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 Can one kill anything use with them. I expect primers to become more plentiful. If you have the money, you find them and I have purchased just what I need to minimally get buy. As long as there are no primer bans they will become a more available than they are now and the prices will like get down to say $50 for a 1,000 that is still too high. There people making their own primers and percussion caps by the way.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'd heard about making percussion caps but I must admit that I hadn't heard about folks making their own primers.

[@adamgrimes820]

That 1100 is absolutely gorgeous

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you sir. I assure you it's the original finish and bluing and I've literally put thousands of rounds thru it. There's no telling how many rounds of skeet I've shot with it nor how many dove/quail/squirrels/rabbits I've taken with it. It still sports the original O-ring for the gas pistons that it came with. Never ever a miss fire or failure to feed or eject. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My son owns it now.

[@billflowers1116]

I like your take on homestead firearms. I grew up in TX an OK. You checked all the boxes. Keep em comin'.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Question for you: If you could only have one bolt action for hunting in that type of country what would it be? Just curious on what folks that routinely have 300 or 400 yard shots on game choose for a flat shooting hard hitting round.

[@Biomass1]

I have my dads early 1940s 30 WCF Winchester 94. First time i ever fired it I got a small buck at about 150 yards. Great little rifle. I would add a bolt gun in heavier caliber. I use a Ruger American in 308. Awesome gun for the money and very accurate. Taken alot of deer with it. My most used deer rifle is a piston AR in 223 though. I drop anything under 300 and have dropped everything with one round. I have my own range so i train alot. Understand your chosen platforms limits as well as your own and you can make almost anything work for you.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Excellent response and choice of deer rifles if I do say so myself. My go to is the Ruger American .308 for whitetail. I did ditch the rather flimsy plastic stock for a Boyd's wood stock. I like it much better. I'm still searching for the "magic" factory deer load it likes the best, but I have not been unhappy with any that I've tried thus far. My current deer season factory load is the 180 grain Federal Fusion. It works well (4 in the freezer so far), but it doesn't seem to be any more accurate or them faster than the 150 grain Fusion load. I've never had one make it more than about 10 yards with either load. Most drop in their tracks (my shots are almost exclusively under 150 yards just due to the terrain).

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Oh, I meant to add that I also occasionally hunt with a 1952 vintage Model '94 when I hunt our bottom land. I love that rifle. It belonged to my wife's grandfather so there's some history involved and that just adds to the hunt in my opinion.

[@jerdog333]

Great list of firearms. I don't disagree with any of your suggestions.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks!

[@bullseyedixon5660]

GREAT SELECTION THANK YOU

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you sir!

[@josearellano5778]

Awesome selection of firearms‼️🎯💯👌👍👍👍👍

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks 👍

[@YakMotley]

Great video!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks!

[@reb1050]

I commend you on your choice of firearms. My choices are slightly different as far as brands and calibers. I also must commend you on the condition of your older guns. It's not often you see 40 yr. old firearms that clean.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you. Everyone will have slightly different choices of manufacturers and calibers based on personal preferences, expense, and tailoring of the round to their exact circumstances. Mine would be slightly different if I lived somewhere else. I've always kept my guns clean I suppose. I don't mind using them in whatever environmental conditions I'm in but they always get a good cleaning afterwards. My grandkids and someday their kids will appreciate that.

[@reb1050]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I haven't got any grandkids, but I have already given my son a few and he knows there will be more to follow once I'm gone. I noticed you haven't got one of those "scary black rifles" among your choices. I prefer the Mini-14 as well. It didn't need the Accu-Stru but my Mini-30 did. It was bought in the 80's. And, I prefer the pump over the automatic .12 ga. I've had it (870 Wingmaster) since 76. I gave my son my Henry .22 magnum Since I never used it. I just usually use my Ruger 10/22 for close range varmints as well as hunting. I bought it back in the 70's as well. I also depend a lot on my Ruger Mark 2 I bought in the early 80's. I got rid of all my semi-auto handguns (except the .22) and use revolvers in the high powered handguns. I have no clue where you live, but I am in NW GA. One handgun you left out that I depend on a lot around the homestead is a Taurus Judge. At close range, the ability to shoot .410 shells is great on Copperhead and Rattlesnakes. As well as being my carry pistol when on the tractor. It's good practice on rats and mice when bush hogging. BTW, my 30-30 is a Marlin and my primaty deer rifle is a Ruger .308 bolt action.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I've always had a love affair with the 1911's and lever guns in general. Same for single action revolvers. Same deer rifle that I use as my go to for hunting. I did have a scary black rifle that we passed down to my step son but for some reason I never really took a liking to them. Not sure why. In North Central NC on this end.

[@reb1050]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 You sound like my neighbor when it comes to the 1911s. Where as I prefer my .357 and .44 mag. As far as deer hunting, it depends on where I am hunting. I usually kill one with the 30-30 and one with the .308 I like lever actions as well. My wife uses a Browning BLR in the 7mm-08 and I "borrow" it occasionally. BTW, I like NC. Back before old age caught up with me, I had a motorcycle and I always enjoyed going up into NC on my occasional road trips. Pretty state.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you for your NC compliments. I've spent a bit of time in GA while in the military. I'd like to go striper fishing in Lanier with the fly rod. Did you ever make it up to ride the Tail of the Dragon while in NC? Spent an entire 4th of July weekend there one year on my BMW R1100 back in the day. Many beautiful places to ride here but I also got a bit older and had to give it up.

[@huskersroyal9]

Great video! Love the long guns. That shotgun and 30/30 is nice!!!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

They are. The 30-30 is a 1952 build that seen its time in the woods long before she inherited it. When the winds are right and I hunt down in the bottom land it's what I take. You'd be hard pressed to find a shot of 40 yards down there. I may have to break out the 1100 and throw a slug in the chamber and some 00 in the tube.

[@williamthehuntsman]

My personal arsenal for my property is a 3" chambered 12 gauge pump from stevens, a sporterized 1918 SMLE in .303 British, a Windham Weaponry SRC in .223/5.56 with a thermal optic, a Remington bolt action .22 magnum rifle, a .45 colt single action army for the horseback rides. A browning mk II. a .45 colt S&W revolver for my EDC, a stoeger STR-9C in 9mm for my wife's EDC. This isn't counting the Black powder firearms I have, but these are my essentials for work around the farm, or something as simple as a trip into town, or the bigger city (for the EDCs).

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I don't think anyone could argue against the lineup.

[@williamthehuntsman]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I can't argue with your lineup either. Personally, I think an essential is a 12 gauge

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Absolutely. First gun I ever bought was that 1100 from Best Buy of all places.

[@williamthehuntsman]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 Get outta here! Best buy? When did they sell something that good?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Absolutely the truth. It had to be late 70's / early 80's. Best Buy in Greensboro, NC. All the stores back then carried firearms. You could buy SKS's at Roses well into the 90's or perhaps early 2000's. Here's something that'll break your heart: I picked up my Garand from DCM for the grand sum of $265 AND they shipped it to my PO Box.

[@Jameskenomis3]

Excellent video and information. In my humble opinion, if someone can only afford one firearm… It should most definitely be a 12 gauge shotgun. You can hunt everything from squirrel to grizzly bears. I would also say that a pistol is extremely important in the present times. Things are getting worse by the day. It’s crucial to have a firearm that you can conceal on your body , and take everywhere to protect yourself and others, who God gave you to protect…. So someone with a 12 gauge and a handgun can basically handle any situation. It would be better to have other long guns, but some people have smaller budgets to work with. On another note, I love hunting everything to put food on the table. I’m a squirrel hunting fanatic. In my experience a .22 magnum is overkill on squirrel… unless you only take headshots. Thanks for the work/ time you put in to make this video. God bless y’all.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Tried replying earlier. I guess YT didn't like what I had to say. Suffice it to say that we are in agreement on everything you said in your comment.

[@liljimitwofeatherz9735]

16gauge singleshot

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Another excellent choice IF you have a good supply of ammo. 16 gauge is pretty hard to find. Even some of the reloading components (wads for example) are scarce. We have my wife's grandmother's 16 gauge Model 12 in the gun room.

[@Williameverett-m3n]

Ive been living offgrid for 12 years now. I have an 870 with extra slug barrel in 12 gauge. Have a howa 1500 in 300 prc for large game at distance for the brush I have a 1895 marlin in 45-70. For small game a ruger american 22 mag. For my daily carry a ruger alaskan in 454. All my guns are either cerakote or stainless hard to keep a gun in good shape when you might be out in the rain or snow for long periods of time guns are a mans tools need to be in good shape and working all the time.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Excellent selection. I assume you live in dangerous big game country.

[@Williameverett-m3n]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 yeah southern part of Alaska during the spring and summer months these days for winter I go to south east Asia for more summer time.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

That's gotta be interesting.

[@rmwtsou]

You've got an excellent collection of all the guns necessary for a homestead. I like guns too, and in 40 years, my collection has grown to 150 guns, when I really just needed the 8 you've got!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Don't start talking need vs wants. I've convinced my wife we "need" all the guns in my collection - of which this is just a small sampling - and that there are still more "needs" that we don't yet have. Hopefully sooner than later though! Let's see, M1A, MSR, suppressors, new reloading stuff...........

[@rmwtsou]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 Ha ha, we always "need" that one extra gun regardless of how many we already have. Now they've got me little worried in CA since rabid anti-gun Sen. Portantino is introducing a new law to require every firearm owner to register EVERY gun in his possession EVERY year, with a registration fee. I don't see how that can be constitutional. You can't turn a right into a privilege! Pay tax to vote?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'd say it's time to get out of CA and move to a red state. I know - easier said than done. Thankfully I live it probably the most conservative county in a conservative state (don't let them fool you - our current gov got in exactly the same way that Biden got in).

[@tacman2893]

Good choices in my mind. So many options but these are solid.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

There are a lot of choices aren't there? Most of it is going to depend on what kinds of farm animals you need to dispatch and what kind of predators you need to protect your livestock and/or your family from, whether they be two legged or four. Hunting meat is also a requirement in my book.

[@RuralRet]

I got a M91/30(all parts matching numbers with bayonet), savage 22-250, remington 870 12ga, custom built ar in 300blk, and a s&w m&p 2.0 10mm.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Nice. My uncle had a WWII era German Luger with all matching numbers to include the magazine. After he died I think his ultra liberal kids pawned them at the local pawn shop. Sickening.

[@Covert_Arrangements]

I prefer to have all my guns wood and steel as well. Just something beautiful about the way they look and feel. Looking forward to seeing more videos. 😊

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Trying to get one on the Mini-14 with the Samson folding stock edited as soon as I finish one on our new farm pond build on another one of our channels. Hopefully I can get the last of the footage today testing some evil green tip ammo to check the accuracy from my particular rifle. It should be out early next week.

[@williamthehuntsman]

Who doesn't love that classic look? The smoother lines, the natural feeling in your hands. It may be a bit heavier and less durable than polymer, but it is a timeless look that, if maintained well, will last a lifetime.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I guess it's what you grew up slobbering over in old movies and gun magazines. The newer generations replaced our old wood furniture with plastic because that's what they were exposed to. Tactical in my day was putting a sling on a shotgun or opting for the 30 round vs the 15 round mag in the M1 Carbine (insert laugh here).

[@ironmikehallowween]

That’s a solid list.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you sir!

[@donswearingen9805]

1. .22 rifle. 2. 12 ga pump with interchangeable choke. 3. Heavy pistol (.357 or bigger) 4. Heavy rifle. (30-06 with a decent scope) 5. .22 handgun. 6. An AR-15 with the current military cartridge.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I certainly wouldn't argue with those choices either.

[@stevenojeda2998]

I have never been hunting and I want to start off slow. I was thinking about a 22 Ruger. And maybe go squirrel hunting or rabbit hunting any thoughts or ideas

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I've tried replying but for some reason it hasn't posted yet. The Ruger 10-22 would be an excellent choice, but I would instead opt for either a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun. Much more versatile and much more forgiving for taking a variety of game from rabbits to deer. Please let us know what you decide. I'm currently trying to justify a CZ Bobwhite 20 or 28 gauge but so far my arguments for another new shotgun have fallen on deaf ears.

[@thanksleft]

Great choice

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Anyone out there with the CZ Bobwhite care to offer up an opinion on how it performs in the field for dove/quail/grouse/woodcock/squirrel/rabbit? If you had to do it again would you buy the 20 or the 28?

[@BrokenBarBox]

Great topic! As a fellow homesteader, I completely agree with your battery. Here’s a fun question I like to ask other ranchers: what’s your choice for a handgun if you can only afford one? I’m always surprised at how many tell me a .22. When I ask city people I hear 9mm quite a bit. Just curious what your thoughts are? Thanks for the great video! Take care

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

That's a very good question! I haven't really given it much consideration but that .22 Ruger Mk II has seen many a mile go by on my right hip. A full sized 1911 would be a chore to lug around all day working around the place. The XDs though is easy to carry in a pocket. If only one I think it'd be the Ruger Mk II .22 LR loaded with something like the CCI Mini Mags or another high velocity type of round. If I lived in bear country I'd definitely upsize that choice though. As it stands at the moment, I always have the Springfield 1911 Range Officer Compact (.45 ACP) on my hip loaded with quality self-defense ammo.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Well a man can only own so many guns - and stay married! I gave the factory parkerized Colt Special Agent .38 snub nose to my son already, I do own a Uberti SAA replica in .45 Colt, I use whatever is on my hip at the moment vs snake shot, I don't have any speed loaders or moon clips, and the SAA replica rides in a great Clint Eastwood spaghetti western replica holster. It's cheesy but it's a fun conversation starter. The pistol btw is a heck of a lot of fun to shoot! Sights suck but they're a true representation. Stay tuned. We have about 5 different channels but it's becoming apparent that this channel will be the main one before long. Gun folks are just our kind of people.

[@jamesbrill7318]

Good choices ,all of them.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you sir. Much appreciated.

[@brendenmilligan8739]

I like all your guns you showed in the video I really like the Remington 1100 I got one to I inherited from my dad after he passed it a 20 gauge and has a rifled slug barrel on it. It's my go to deer gun here in ohio and it's been used to take a lot of deer over the years

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I love my 1100. I primed tobacco as a kid to earn enough to buy it. If you've ever primed tobacco then you know what that means. I never spent money as a kid on wine, women, or songs - just guns, reloading supplies, fishing rods/reels, and lures - and of course bird dogs! I never did get that brace of beagles I wanted for rabbit hunting though. The Remington 1100 has never ever ever never let me down. Never a misfire. Never a failure to feed or eject. That's after literally thousands of rounds. Keep them clean ( I even polished the gas rings with Flitz almost every cleaning), make sure you reassemble the gas rings correctly (they won't work at all otherwise), and shoot the snot out of them. I did modify mine by trimming a tad off the stock and adding a different recoil pad, and I also added sling studs because I'd walk for miles behind a bird dog chasing Bobwhite Quail with it. It has been passed down to my son and I'm sure it will continue to be passed down thru the generations. A classic well built heritage type of firearm anyone would be proud to own.

[@brendenmilligan8739]

No I'm sure what primed tobacco is 😅

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

It was hard work priming by hand back in the day but it paid good money - especially for 10 year old kids. That was my go to for money from that age up until I graduated high school.

[@alexugorcak6159]

I would appreciate a review on the 30 cal carbine

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'll bump it to the top of the list! Look for it in a few days.

[@johncoleman2495]

I love in the Northeast so my choices vary a little. My utility shotgun is a Mossberg 930 SPX that also has a slug barrel and a 24" barrel with screw in chokes, rather than a 30/30 Winchester I would opt for my Marlin 336 .35 Remington because it hits harder, My go to .223 is the dreaded black rifle. A Springfield Saint Victor. It wears a 3x prism scope which easily gets me out to 300 yards. My favorite .22 is a Remington 597. I do have a Winchester 9422 in .22 magnum if need be but it's too pretty to knock around, I also own both of those .22 handguns, my single 6 is a stainless 6 1/2" and very handy but my pistol choice is a GSG 1911 22 because it's compact accurate and reliable. I seldom use it but my pocket pistol is a S&W shield 9mm and my go to hiking woods gun is a custom Remington R1 enhanced commander in .45 super. Because it offers the power of a 10mm with a bigger heavier bullet and is 100% reliable through over 1000 consecutive rounds!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'd say excellent choices. I'm still wanting something in the Victor or Edge line for a truck gun.

[@muknav8051]

Thoughts on a larger pistol caliber like 357 mag lever guns for whitetail?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

At closer ranges I think a magnum pistol caliber cartridge with proper shot placement would provide a quick, clean, ethical kill on light skinned game like the white tail. Be sure to check your state's game laws before you invest in one though. Some states for example still prohibit .223 rifles for big game hunting. Others may have experience in using them and I would be interested to hear their opinions.

[@fbweaver63]

i believe your homestead is well protected. i see you have one of the old mini 14's, too. i've thought of getting one of the accu-strut, also.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Actually it's one of the 580 series with the thicker barrel and the other accuracy improvements they made. The strut is mainly for looks but it can't hurt. I have no idea if it has made a difference but it does add to the M-14 look.

[@fbweaver63]

i bought mine at walmart around 25 years ago. i do like the look.@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Picked mine up at a Roses after Obama got elected but before he was inaugurated.

[@fbweaver63]

i miss roses. they used to have surplus mausers, enfields, etc for $70-$100.@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Yeah. A lot of the guys (and a few gals) in our unit were snapping up SKS's as fast as they hit the shelves.

[@algoneby]

I must have missed it, but did you say what the small .45 ACP was ? As far as make and model ?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

SA XDs. They've upgraded them a bit since I purchased this one but this is a great carry gun. Much easier to maintain in dirty environments than my 1911's.

[@algoneby]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 Thanks

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

No problem

[@kipb2078]

Is a .300 Savage a good ranch rifle for most areas?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I think it is an excellent cartridge but again it depends on exactly what you are looking to accomplish. Personally, if I had to settle on a single rifle cartridge in the Eastern US, it would most likely be the 30-30 Winchester - partly out of proven ability and partly out of nostalgia I suppose. Nobody could fault you for choosing the .300 Savage as a good ranch rifle UNLESS you were in big dangerous game country. In that locale I'd say you need to upgrade to a heavier, deeper penetrating cartridge. Here's a link to a decent article re: the .300 Savage. www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.300+Savage.html

[@srsatlaf4730]

My kind of homestead!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Well thanks! We like it just fine. It took a couple of years to find the right place but I do believe we found it.

[@jeffbardroff5873]

Good evening I have a 2308 I want to get something else that's around that type of caliber but I don't want the same caliber 22 long 17 HMR I have a 12 gauge single barrel 12 gauge pump 20 gauge pump what else do you think I need

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

It depends entirely on what niche you want a new gun to fill. I'll assume you live in big sky country by your 23-08 choice. If you intend on hunting with a rifle then I'd consider a bolt action in the .30 caliber family (30-06, .308, etc) or depending on what you want to hunt with it, perhaps something like the .270. If you're just shooting varmints your 23-08 or the .17 HMR should fill the bill nicely. It sounds like you have the shotgun basics covered but there's just something about a nice double barrel...

[@loquat44-40]

I live in a rural suburban environment that is closer to how more americans live than those that are truly rural. But survival hunting is still possible. I do not see a smooth bore flintlock. Perhaps I missed it, was their mention of spare parts. For examples some 94 winchesters are known to break firing pins. One reason I like the AR rifles is that spare parts at the moment are cheap and available and not that difficult to keep some on hand. Center fires are more defense and perhaps trade/bartter. Rimfires are better hunting weapons in my environment. In my environment steel traps, snares, fishing nets, etc are useful for hunting small animals and protecting gardens, fruit trees, and nut trees. A .22 with quiet ammo is also good for small game. I doubt that there are many deer in the suburban wet land behind me relative to the population and that goes for the few florida black bears and also the presence of some feral hogs. But there are lots of small things to eat.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Excellent point about availability of parts. I do use a .50 cal black powder rifle during black powder season here. It's not a flintlock though. Percussion cap that I modified to accept 209 size shotgun shell primers vs No 11 caps. Dropped the hammer once on a doe to nothing but the sickening "click". Problem now solved.

[@loquat44-40]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 A smooth properly loaded smooth bore will drop a man or deer up to a range of 70 yards. The larger smooth bores will also handle shot; even shot made over a camp fire by putting droplets of molten lead from a dipper into a pan of water. Only a supply of flint that can last a long time and home made black powder is needed. I am thinking of the hudson bay muskets. For parts I have seen some relatively wealthy people advocate having two identical guns using one as a source of parts for the other. For the AR, it is just easier to buy the spare parts in the form of a build kit and also an oops kit of parts. Oops parts are little springs, pins, and such that you when you go oops and drop one that can not be found. You must have backups. On glocks the little plastic thingy for the extractor spring and the cups around the firing pins I have also lost.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Agree totally but I've never really gotten into BP shooting enough to make my own powder, etc. Too many interests, too little time.

[@markalford5406]

Man oh man I have everything you have and probably the same age of firearms . 👍

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

They'll last for generations if you take care of them. I had my local gunsmith do some work on my XDs and was apologizing about how dirty it was. He laughed and said that some of the guns folks bring them to be cleaned actually stink. I couldn't believe it. There are a lot of people out there that won't bother cleaning the innards until they start having failures.

[@phild8095]

Wife and I have stepped all the way down to a 410 due to shoulders aging poorly. Similarly we've dropped down to 223 lever. We know it rules out deer, but we will trade fruit and veggies for deer. Lighter rifles in 9mm, 22LR and 17HMR. hand guns, 9, 9, 380, 22LR revolver and semiauto. It would be nice to be able to shoot a 12 gauge and a 30 caliber rifle, but "a man (or a woman) got to know his limits.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'm so sorry to hear of your shoulder troubles. I've had shoulder surgery but thankfully it was the left shoulder and I'm right handed. I'm not so sure I'd give up on the venison hunt with the .223 cartridge. Advances are being made all the time with ammunition. Check out the Xtreme bullets that are solid and have a tip the looks like a Phillips head screw driver bit. A well placed neck shot with an appropriate .223/5.56 cartridge will produce an ethical kill on white tails. Many folks use this shot placement and caliber for culling doe with clean, quick, humane kills. These days I carry a Franchi Instinct 20 guage O/U for upland game myself. My wife carries either the XDs in 9mm or a Kimber 9mm she inherited from her Dad. Again, with ammunition advancements, the 9 is an excellent low recoil choice for self-defense.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Oh, check out the 28 gauge - especially if you reload. I'm trying my best to justify the CZ Bobwhite double barrel in 28 gauge. The only current drawback is that the ammo is expensive with mixed availability - but so is the 410. If you're set up for reloading then it's definitely a step up from the 410!

[@phild8095]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I reload everything we shoot except the rimfire. Current inventory is 6-12 years, or 72 hours of a bad weekend, whichever comes first. Iowa currently forbids 223 and 410 for deer. Still have the 20 with slugs, but not looking forward to it.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Have you considered cutting the stock down enough to add a gel type recoil pad? That may work for "one of" type of shot on a deer - especially if the 20 is a gas operated semi.

[@phild8095]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 The 20 is a pump, but I like the idea of a gel pad for important days. I'll have to pull the stock off and take it to Brownells, Sportsmans or Bass Pro to find a pad that fits well. I could easily add 3/4 of an inch and still easily use it. My wife, she gave up shooting clays about 5 years ago with the 20. Hey, thanks for the idea. The other thing I have stock up on springs and buffer for the Marlin 795, Ruger is making spare parts for the 60 and 795 extinct. Damn shame.

[@B.Moore-Ready]

Sweet 👍

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks 👍

[@mred9972]

I'm old not as much experience but get red dot instead of scope, my mini 223 556

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I never got used to a red dot. Of course I didn't give them much of a shot. I suppose it takes a little getting used to.

[@jackfernandez3021]

I like your choices except the shotgun I believe a pump or at least a double barrel is better gas operated can foul much faster than a pump and a beginner is going to have a hard time clearing it. I noticed you did not show handguns would love to see your choices on those

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

If I were in more rugged environs I would opt for the pump myself. I always wanted an Ithaca Model 37 for example (bottom ejection - I reload). I carry a .45 ACP daily. It's usually a 1911 variant but sometimes it's a polymer frame pistol. That's big enough for my circumstances. My son loves the .40 cal and I can't fault that choice either. My wife, the 9mm. To go larger than that I'd start with .357 or .44 mag in a revolver or the 10mm in an auto. Grizzly bears? Most likely a .454 in a strong framed revolver.

[@BrockNessMonster1991]

Respectfully Jack, he did show and speak on 4 separate handguns in this very video.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks

[@sorshiaemms5959]

good choice of guns

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks!

[@tomb306]

I wouldn't mind watching a video about 30 06 and 7 mm mag.. I subscribed so I'll be watching

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

The only 30-06 I currently own is a WWII vintage M1 Garand I purchased WAY back from DCM for the exorbitant fee of $265 - shipped to my PO Box to boot (I was military). I don't own a 7mm mag but will see if I can get my hands on one. It's doubtful at the moment but we'll see. I will do a video on the M1 Garand though so stay tuned. Most of the gun videos will be delayed until after deer season ends hear (Jan 1). My target shooting land and my hunting lands are one and the same so I don't usually do a lot of shooting here during deer season to avoid spooking the game. I cut my teeth on an old 1903-A3 30-06 for deer hunting and love the cartridge so we will definitely cover that round.

[@commiesnzombies]

like a remington 742 semi auto 30-06

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I think my brother may still have his. I'll find out.

[@johncoleman2495]

Not a bad choice among them! What's the 1911?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

SA TRP Operator

[@johncoleman2495]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I thought so! Great gun right there!!!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I love it almost as well as my '70 Series Gold Cup.

[@charlesgill8822]

3006 is still the best. Thank you

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I've tried 3 times to reply to this. YT evidently doesn't like what I have to say. Let's just say I love the 30-06 round. Cut my teeth on an old 1903-A3. If I lived further West I'd have one of those for hunting vs the .308 Heavier bullets, longer neck, more case capacity. You know the drill. I do shoot my M1 Garand whenever I take a notion but I don't use it as a hunting rifle.

[@kevwebb2637]

The flintlock muskets would beat the 12 gauge as they are commonly larger than .58 cal. 1766 Charleville is .69 and the Brown Bess is a .75 cal. which the muskets has the ability to mount a bayonet. Any smoothbore flintlock long gun, Blunderbus, or pistol will work. Rifled flintlock long guns and rifled flintlock pistols are the last thing to recommend as you are only limited to a patched roundball. I didn't recommend percussion as percussion caps is harder to get then flint. Flintlock firearms and 18th century black powder cannons are the best for sustained usage as real black powder can be home made, roundballs can be casted as they are solid lead, though they do require cleaning discipline as sulfur in the powder will corrode the steel if not cleaned. Water neutralizes powder residue, Ballistol or anything similar will protect the gun from rust, ballistol is best as it won't damage wood and leather. GOEX, Swiss, Schuetzen, and home made are the main options for powder. Substitutes are useless with flintlocks and unsafe as the flint don't produce the heat to light the powder, even if it is a lock by L&R.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

For some reason YT keeps deleting my replies

[@philiptheriault7953]

All great guns.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thanks!

[@billyhill4937]

.22 Mag is more potent than .22 lr for sure from a rifle or carbine barrel length but in a short barrel handgun the advatange is negligable .

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

To be honest I haven't done any chrono work with that pistol. Sounds like a worthy project.

[@philipirwin5286]

Lets see them all!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

We've been on vacation for a bit but we are getting back in the groove so to speak. Currently working on the Mini-14 video, we have the 150th anniversary of the Colt SAA video after that, and finally for Veterans' Day we are working on videos of the M1 and the M1 Carbine. I'm also very interested in testing out our new Shotkam but the hurricane that moved through scattered the dove off to somewhere else. It was the worst opening day of dove season I've ever seen. Didn't fire a shot.

[@AlexanderSalamat]

Good day Brother, new subscriber here from the Philippines, i like the simplicity and direct to the point style of your videos, keep it up Bro.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Thank you sir. Covid has had us down for a couple of weeks but we are hoping to push out vids on all of our channels very soon. Do a search for Hidden Acres Outdoors on KZbin to see our Homestead, Aviation, Grilling, Tractors, and Fishing channels.

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

Not my choices, but not bad. My biggest gripe would be your optics. A magnified scope should be on a manual rifle, and a battle rifle should have irons or a non magnified optic. As much as i love 30-30, a precision rifle in a flatter shooting caliber would serve much better.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

YT keeps deleting my replies. Sorry. Scope is there only for hunting coyotes at night - which is legal here. I agree re: a precision rifle shooting a flatter trajectory - especially out West. I use a 308 bolt action here in NC for deer but would opt for the '06 or maybe a 270 further west.

[@williamthehuntsman]

You make some valid points. Longer ranges require flatter shooting ammo types and long range optics should be reserved for precision rifles. But the Ruger mini-14 isn't a battle rifle. And I have seen people reach out past 300 yards and bag coyotes with a Riger Mini-14, no problem. I do agree that for longer shots, a .30-30 is a tad outclassed by other rifle rounds actually designed for range. .30-30 is an excellent brush gun here in Maine, but for those longer shots, you see people using calibers like .308, .30-06 and .303 british. Heck, here in Maine, even the 6.5 Creedmore is getting some love. Personally would never use the cartridge for game hunting, but I definitely see the appeal.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I have a Samson MFG folding stock for the Mini-14 as well as the original factory wood. It's a handy little package but there's no way I'd opt for that as a battle rifle vs something like a SA Edge series or even the M1A. You'll see that soon because I'm currently running a test with the 62 gr green tip ammo for accuracy in my Mini-14. I have some footage of both of those stocks in the video. As an aside, my particular rifle prefers the heavier 62 vs the 55 gr ammo out of the 18.5" bbl and 1:9 RH twist. I'll have to reload with some even heavier bullets and see how that works out.

[@David_Quinn_Photography]

Shotguns are so versatile you can change the barrel to shoot BBs or buy a threaded barr to shoot slugs and almost every hunting season offers shotgun as an option.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Exactly. You can load them from slugs to buckshot to small game sized shot to bird shot. Rifled barrels, variety of chokes, etc. However, they won't reach out and touch something out at 100+ yards. But if I only had one it'd be a 12 gauge shotgun. Hands down.

[@commiesnzombies]

fully rifled barrel and 3 inch sabot slugs, like using an elephant gun on a 90 pound doe

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I used to use that type of setup a lot in the 1100. Round in the chamber was a slug backed up with 4 rounds of 00 Buck.

[@firebrand07]

I have an M1 Carbine in my collection. Excellent defense weapon.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

We have one of those as well. It's loaded and sitting next to my wife's side of the bed as I type this. I've been meaning to see how it does with the new Xtreme Defense bullets. From what I've seen the results are impressive. Any experience with those?

[@firebrand07]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 from what I know just be sure the bullet nose is rounded somewhat to not scrub the feedramp and stovepipe. But you may have known this. Carbines are a great little rifle!

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I was thinking more of their Penetrator or Defense bullets with the head that looks like a Phillips head screwdriver.

[@firebrand07]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 I haven’t handloaded for the Carbine yet but sounds like a bullet to try.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Check out some of the reviews on YT. Impressive.

[@sorshiaemms5959]

3030 with grizzly bear just empty all 7 rounds on it

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'd prefer a bit more oomph for grizzly bears but I think the '94 would work just fine. It would just take more than one shot I believe.

[@ObamaoZedong]

150 years ago people carried two Colt Walker Dragoons weighing upwards 5 lbs each. My two cents is we have no right to complain about the weight of our polymer full sized handguns today, only 2 lbs with far more capacity and reliability. Play around with a black powder revolver to get some honest perspective on today's luxuries.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Agreed - although I don't own a polymer full sized handgun. I think one of the biggest advantages of the modern polymer styled handguns is the ease of maintenance. The biggest drawback? Most have awful triggers compared to non-striker fired pistols (in my opinion).

[@mcb2757]

Do you own an AR-15?

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Currently I do not. In the past I certainly have. We passed a M&P Sport down to my stepson. My son owns an AR-10 that is a beast. I'm still trying to justify something out the Edge lineup but can't quite get there at the moment.

[@garrettlundy3959]

I didn’t realize modern sporting rifles and striker fired pistols didn’t work the same in the countryside

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I'm sure that they do. As I said, I just happen to prefer the "old school" stuff like 1911's and wooden stocks on my rifles and shotguns. This was in no way a slight against striker fired pistols or the MSR's.

[@EricPatrick-p5o]

Well, Sir. I Rather Have Bows And Arrows, Crossbows And Pullets, And Crossbow Pistols And Bolts For Hunting And Fishing. Plus, Hunting Knives And Fishing Knives. And, I Will Camping Knives And Hiking Knives.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I started bow hunting with a Fred Bear Whitetail Hunter many many moons ago. We used everything from broadheads to small game blunt tips to the bird hunting fru fru arrows or whatever they're called. Older now with a few neck and shoulder surgeries so I'm thinking seriously about a crossbow for next deer season. Any recommendations that won't break the bank? I do have some nicer knives in the collection also. Maybe I'll do a show and tell video later this winter on some of those.

[@EricPatrick-p5o]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 One Of Things Is Bushcraft Knives And They Can Pretty Expensive When You Buy Knives. Just Check It Out Before You Buy Knives And Price Them. Same Thing Bows And Arrows And Crossbows And Pullets And Crossbow Pistols And Bolts. Just Check Them Out Before You Buy Them Too. I Like To Have More Hunting And Fishing Bolts. About All I Need Just Enough To Live And Survive And I Am Not Fighting With Everybody. Just Like To Live And Survive All This That's Going On Right Now.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

More power to you. The less I have to deal with the world the better I like it.

[@drezwider]

2023 edition: Bonelli Semi auto AKM Clone Ar15 Ruger 10-22 Pistols 👌

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

The AR-15 (M&P Sport) I can make happen fairly easily. The 10-22 is an easy one. There's one in my gun room right now with the wooden stock. Looking for a cheap scope to mount on it.

[@drezwider]

@@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838 It’s always touted as being a great tool for trigger control and fundamentals

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I really haven't shot it much at all. It belonged to my wife's grandfather. He used it to hunt raccoons with.

[@danst-fernando7405]

Anyone else had to repeat that opening...

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Technical issue perhaps? Did you get it to work?

[@黃炯烈]

AKM and AK74 are better choices 😊😊😊

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

To each his own I suppose!

[@commiesnzombies]

highly offensive to Fudds everywhere

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

The 2nd Amendment isn't in there for hunting or even for self-defense per se, but for defense against tyranny. As such, it was adopted when civilians had the same weapons the government used - as it should be. Biden can say we'd need F-15s and nukes all he wants to, but the fact is that the very first aid we send to help civilians resist a tyrannical government is - you guessed it - small arms and ammunition. AKA the Modern Sporting Rifle except in full auto or burst versions.

[@akmguyman762X39]

Gotta say I'm partial to the AK as well

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

We have 6 YT channels. This is the only one where we have "technical issues" when posting replies. Coincidence? I think not.

[@308dad8]

This video by 4:54 has proved this guys lack of understanding of anything he’s talking about. Don’t get me wrong I love a Remington 1100 shotgun but he thinks 223 isn’t effective at 200 or even 300 yards. The Army requires a minimum of being able to consistently hit a man sized silhouette at 300 Meters with 5.56 NATO and the point target effective range from an M16A2 rifle is 500 meters that’s the man sized target guaranteed hit and effective hit. 800 Meters for area target so a truck or HMMWV or whatever but a scoped 223 is not good at or beyond 200-300 yards at all. You put your own ignorance on blast.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Perhaps you should go back and actually watch the video. Nowhere did I say the .223 isn't effective at 200 or 300 yards. I spent 22 years in the military so don't try and lecture me on the 5.56 round. Been there, done that. However, as I said in the video, if I were further West and habitually shot at ranges of 300 to 400+ yards that I'd opt for something like the .243 or .270. I stand by that. As a matter of fact many locales do not allow the taking of deer or other "big game" with the .223/5.56 and there's a big argument on how ethical it is or is not to hunt deer with the 223 / 5.56. I did say that the .22 magnum round on coyote sized targets is stretching it at 150 yards - for the same reasons. I can hit the animal BUT I'm probably not going to get a clean kill. I may have also mentioned that the 30-30 drops like a rock beyond the 200 yard mark, hence the .308 on the table. Not sure if I mentioned that or not though. What you're probably referring to is the explanation I provided on why there is a scope mounted on the .223 rifle. I also talk about dropping a round in the chamber and nailing a coyote 200 yards away with it (because that's my longest clear line of fire on my property). Go back and watch the video before you blast me with your inability to process information clearly provided and in context.

[@billypoe3703]

These are bad choices.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

Well at least give some constructive criticism. Just saying they're bad choices only means that in YOUR opinion they're bad choices. That adds nothing to the conversation other than ignorance.

[@DanielSon69]

It’s not a ‘3 by 9’ scope. It’s a ‘3 to 9’ scope.

[@hiddenacresoutdoors-gunshu838]

I stand corrected. Mea culpa my friend.