Honda 3.5 Rattle Noise

The famous timing belt tensioner is the cause of the rattle noise you hear in this video.

[@beevang600]

You found my problem after one day of pulling my hair. Now I have to find the time to fix it. Thank you! Thank you! This video is so helpful!

[@AntonAtan]

It is possible to replace the tensioner withoit removing everything else if thats all you want to replace. Good advice about marking the belts. Most tutorials dont show that.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

It’s their new V6 diesel

[@joshp9842]

There's a special tool made for those engines you can rent from O'Reilly's to take off the harmonic balancer if you don't have a strong impact like that. Great video!

[@thronewalker1153]

Just use the starter method. It’s literally so easy.

[@joshp9842]

@@thronewalker1153 you can but you risk chipping a tooth on the fly wheel or starter.

[@thronewalker1153]

@@joshp9842 one time should be fine. I wouldn’t recommend doing it every time. Tried everything. The special tool. Huge breaker bar. I tried start as my last resort.

[@gabepim3496]

This is THE best video for timing belt kit on a Honda Ridgeline..

[@matthewgood1873]

So I only have 1 thing to say Milwaukee fuel impact will get that crank bolt out way better then air just an FYI. And thank u for video saved me from spending hours on this inspection

[@n9wox]

My Dewalt 1/2" battery impact took the crank bolt off using a weighted socket. I've also seen them taken off with Milwaukee M18 impact.

[@codyspear1263]

yeah, I was about to say my dewalt 3/4" battery impact takes it off like butter.

[@hortonsstuff6948]

5-6 hour job we own two pilots and an Acura, you save so much money doing it yourself. I still wish they had timing chains.

[@andyl9920]

Agreed. Wish they came with chains. It lasts longer

[@aarontyrrell2931]

Just did my 13 pilot water pump/timing belt and tensioner and now sounds like a sewing machine.

[@molczak7141]

What symptoms were you experiencing with yours I have a 2004 Acura MDX with a 3.5 l and just out of nowhere just started making a rattling noise when you accelerate it kind of goes away lower speeds idle you can hear it I was wondering if you experienced the same issues thanks

[@aarontyrrell2931]

It was wife’s vehicle so I didn’t notice until I drove it. It sounded just like that. Really bad when it was cold sometime louder than others. I used the Lysle 77080 19mm heavy socket and Milwaukee 18v 1/2 to get crank bolt out. Reg 19mm and all other impacts I had would not touch it. That socket with any of my other impact prob would have worked. It’s a massive socket!!!!!

[@CivilPE]

Thanks for this post. It's exactly what was wrong with my J35Y1.

[@furryp2402]

You don't have to use impact tools to remove the big bolt on the vibration damper. Put a breaker bar on the bolt and rest it against the inner fender with a towel for protection. Crank the engine just a little to turn it over and the bolt will free up. Very simple. I learned this from working on an Infiniti Q45 years ago.

[@UffDaDan]

On the vibration damper, do you mean the harmonic balancer and the crank bolt? I think I follow with putting a beaker bar on that bolt and let the crank usncrew it's own bolt?? I've never heard of this and while it sounds risky, I'll keep it in mind.

[@furryp2402]

@@UffDaDan Yes the crank bolt and no this is not dangerous. Just don't stand near the front of the car when you are starting it. It makes a loud noise just for that initial second as it breaks free. I've done this several times of the last few years. I'm amazed this car did not jump timing given the tensioner went bad. Make sure you use a Honda gasket on the water pump given they often leak and that can cause the timing belt to break. These interference engines are rather annoying. Interesting he ran the engine before putting the timing belt covers back on. I was wondering about that and wish I had done that the last time I did this work on my Honda Accord V6 it would have saved many hours of replacing the engine.

[@KardiFan2000]

It works with an impact if you use a special socket. Bought mine from Snap On for $60

[@Looking4TravelingWelderJob]

That's the only way I break them free. Except I just stick a 1/2 ratchet in-between the A-Arm and strut and crank it over. Pull the ignition fuse. Even if it kicks over worse thing that happens is the bolt comes completely off

[@brownrussell1073]

I second this..I've done it multiple times on multiple vehicles. Even some with push button starts. I have a video if somebody needs to see it I'll post it on here.

[@GioSinatraFan]

I just watched an outstanding video of a tech that replaced that tensioner without having to remove everything. With that being said, if the belt has any wear, it might be time to go through the whole process as shown in this vid.

[@lightworker303]

Sometimes this noise is the serpentine belt tensioner which is an easier fix. However if you have not done timing belt service then do it. If that belt breaks it breaks your engine.

[@Bemirboy]

Getting ready to buy one tomorrow with this issue 😅 thanks for the great video, seems like an easy job!

[@deaiirtomilan]

The before and after sounds amazing 👍

[@Bushy556]

I wish you were my neighbor.

[@Ana-qo2io]

Have a 03 V6 Accord with the same sound, was able to install the tensioner by itself in under a hour about a year ago, she's purring like a kitten..

[@joselbazcom4221]

Thanks a lot for the information and the process to fix it. I thought I had ran over a cat or something and was hanging around the engine. I am glad it was no kitty, bird or something like that.

[@thomasbrown1515]

As an aircraft mechanic, I approved this video 👍

[@themechanic568]

Me to… wasn’t a fan that he didn’t put the motor at TDC though…

[@Longtrailside]

Buy the Lisle Honda crank socket set. They take out those crank bolts like nothing with almost any 1/2 drive impact including electric impacts. Also great for rusted suspension bolts.

[@chrisbuechele7005]

There is a special 19mm socket for the harmonic balancer, it will break it loss with 2 or 3 uga duggas.

[@viradiar]

I have 2007 Pilot Elite, Rattle noise only comes when car is cold. Once warm up, noise is complete gone. What could be wrong?

[@fatDaddypaddy215]

Timing belt tension is oil charged. Engine off oil leaks out engine running builds pressure and quiets down.. don't worry about it they all do it.

[@Darydude10]

Milwaukee high torque impact runs on battery. No issues

[@davidusa7733]

Woodruff Key should be straight up at TDC. I used a Lisle 77080 socket and a plug in electric impact. The crank bolt came out without drama.

[@MarkNehemiah]

Our 2009 was making a similar noise. I thought for sure the timing belt had come loose. It was not the timing belt... the camshaft had actually broken in half and was wallowing out the caps.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Wow

[@Nicedesk]

holy shit

[@alfred1535]

Man you’re unbelievable you could build a spaceship

[@mattprather8080]

You made this looks way too easy. Which is good. I have to confidence now. Thanks

[@joudomsouk]

Thanks your video helped diagnose my 2011 Honda Odyssey.

[@rodneyjohnson2064]

Did it solve your problems

[@joudomsouk]

@@rodneyjohnson2064 yes. Timing belt tensioner went bad. I just went ahead and replaced the belt and did all the services related.

[@Gratitud07]

Thanks for all the info man! I really needed to listen to this

[@georgekalogiros4560]

I replaced the tensioner but engine still makes the same noise but only under load any idea what it might be.

[@rrcoster]

Looks like they are luck and brought it in just in time or it would been real expensive repair as these are interference engines.. OEM or Aisin timing belt kit only what id recommend

[@jesustorivio9280]

And amazing video very informative and to the point 👍🏽

[@DrewFromNC]

I had the timing belt service on my 06 LX V6 Accord right at the 100K mark. Sometime recently (now at 151 K) mark, I started noticing the noise on cold mornings when I started the car. It goes away after a couple of minutes. I'm guessing that means the tensioner has not completely failed and it takes it a few minutes to get enough hydraulic fluid going to tighten up the timing belt. So, if I go ahead and replace the apparently faulty tensioner, should I go ahead and replace the water pump and timing belt too as best practice even though technically not due to 200k? It seems like it would make sense to do so since already down there.

[@joelhill58]

Did changing the tensioner fix your problem or was it something else?

[@ryanravencaller]

Drew I’m 7 months late but common sense advice would be to just do the timing belt water pump and do it all again in 75-90k

[@mikelutts7088]

If you had it done at the dealer more than likely they just replaced the timing belt and NOT the tensioner which is stupid but thats how they get you to come back and spend another couple grand

[@ashleywilson6145]

They make a half inch drive socket that makes breaking the crank pulley bolt free quick and easy

[@BerchCerp]

I need you as a mechanic or a teacher. Great video.

[@Pantherman1979]

Has this happen to my 08 Ody. It was so close to the 100K maintenance anyway, I went ahead and had it all done at once.

[@puma1294]

How many years did it last ?

[@Pantherman1979]

I didn't let it linger. Mine only rattled when it was cold, about 1 minute first start in the morning. I scheduled the inspection within a week and had it replaced. At the time it happened, the engine had 150k miles and it was about 3 years ago, so 2018/2019. That was the original from the factory tensioner the mechanic told me.

[@puma1294]

@@Pantherman1979 great thanks for answering. I have a 13 pilot with 75k miles and am wanting to change the belt . Honda recommends 7 years but i thought it was 10. So i wanted to see if any one has pushed it to 10 years.

[@Pantherman1979]

@@puma1294 In all fairness, I bought it used and had intended to replace the tensioner before I actually did. It was part of a kit from AISIN that replaced the water pump, timing belt, timing belt tensioner along with a few bearings (www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1798456&cc=1441873&pt=16088&jsn=414) that's the kit I got from RockAuto for $176 + shipping, AISIN as far I researched is the OEM for Honda. Looks like it's the same kit for your 13 Pilot.

[@puma1294]

@@Pantherman1979 wow i did not know aisin was oem . Ive read people recommending it but i am weary. Im thinking of having dealer replace the timing belt kit with waterpump with oem.

[@kskopaz]

Why couldn’t you just replace the tensioner and not everything else?

[@dboots1421]

Excellent video. Good skill.

[@KillEmAllClan]

Maybe your snap on electric won’t work but I’ve taken off dozens of Honda crank bolts with my Milwaukee 1/2

[@CashApp-HelpMeStayAlive]

Dewalt brushless 1/2

[@TraumaChaplain]

I really appreciate you posting this. How long do you estimate it would take to do with the engine in?

[@dimash244]

have the same sh!t, parked the damn truck two years ago because of the noise... put a battery in, boosted it and it started on second turn of the starter - noise is still there but now i have hope of getting some money for it not as scrap

[@samephraimshaversjr8864]

Thanks for this video.

[@creigmacc]

Did you add coolant before doing the test run? Aisin recommends soaking the water pump in coolant so the seals can swell and become lubed. This was for a 5.7 Tundra motor.

[@JT-dx1qk]

I would never use an aftermarket hydraulic tensioner , I saw one fail at 40k which tossed the belt and bent the valves

[@sinnibear]

Battery powered impacts can for sure crack those bad boys off. I've been using my 1/2 DeWalt cordless 20V XR impact for 2 years, haven't had to grab my 1/2 air gun since. Definitely haven't had to use a 3/4 for automotive work, do you live near a sea or ocean ? Also, I wish my home garage was that equipped !!! Nice work man!

[@JimVilla]

Do you recommend changing front engine seals since you have everything apart? Also how many miles were on this engine?

[@bobwashere8887]

Thanks for the video, enjoyed it much.

[@radiospank]

Dam just changed mine with all new oem Honda and it sounds kinda chattery now but not as bad as yours

[@MrMianfsd]

Helo sir, my honda odyssey 2009 has same noise, when i start its normal but when car getting hot , it make loudly.

[@andyhammond2212]

Did you use all OEM honda replacement parts ? I'm debating our odyssey has 200k miles and will be handed down to my 16 year old son and figured my local parts store brand would be decent enough? Trust me im die-hard honda but $600 vs $120 is kinda hard to beat

[@ayearetee3342]

I already changed the tensioner and i still have that noise any other ideas?

[@KnuckleHeadGarage27]

What year is this one ? . I have a 06 honda pilot 3.5 4×4 and it says on timing cover I believe was replaced at 75,000 miles the timing belt and such but that's before I owned the vehicle . It now has like 157,000 miles I believe and is my daily driver but vehicle is from a used car lot and has been good so far no problems but my sunroof however is leaking and some how got my seat belt wet on driver side.

[@omarzowila]

The 2001 Ford Excursion from the movie “Logan” has a 2008-2010 Ford Super Duty front end

[@MyKingkongg]

I changed the timing belt the tensioner and the bearing, the sound was reduced but its still there. Can you give me an advice on what i need to fix

[@rodneyjohnson2064]

Wow! Did you ever get it right?

[@MyKingkongg]

@@rodneyjohnson2064 hell naw i sold the car got a 2016 model

[@helivesonforever]

How about replacing the crank seal?

[@brownrussell1073]

My 400lb Milwaukee has taken off crank bolts with a weighted socket..not a cheap one

[@lowellbrown1122]

I change mine about 6 months ago and it started again. Seems like I got a bad tension from Amazon

[@stevo6431]

use only oem honda parts , Hondas hate aftermarket parts so does Toyota.

[@360milliondollars]

Can't you convert it to timing chain?

[@jmr9974]

We should see some more videos on the Excursion

[@NWCI]

Oh, I though all Hondas supposed to sound like lawn mowers 🤔

[@jaimecalderon4373]

Good info do you know how much it will cost now to fix it thank you

[@mikelutts7088]

Ive removed the crankshaft nut with a Dewalt battery drill

[@thomasohanlon8675]

My 2011 accord V6 has that noise when it’s cold outside, then it goes away, do you think it still would be a timing tensioner?

[@relloe29]

Maybe valve adjustment.

[@ajlee6933]

My does the same. 2012 Accord V6. It only rattles on a cold start 50% of the time. The noise goes away within a minute or two.

[@camacho2939]

@@ajlee6933 same here have you found any solution? Is your car still running ?

[@ajlee6933]

@@camacho2939 needed a new timing belt. I was 50k over the recommended replacement mileage. Total cost, $800.

[@redneckbryon]

Was that the original belt and water pump that was replaced??

[@JohnDoe-uk7jy]

Should do close up camera work when you removed the components. I see the removed components but don't know how it looked before.

[@alexandercahoulan6583]

hey man quick question/comment. I could've sworn I saw your crankshaft in the wrong timing spot. The little arrow for the crankshaft was on the bottom pointing south. I did this job myself and the arrow should be pointing north to the top timing mark. Maybe this was half way through the 720 degree check of your marks. Just wanted to check on that...lol sorry to bother

[@seanlancaster6911]

Your rt first thing I noticed

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

My 02 honda odyssey does not have it but it sounds like valves are tapping.

[@cbnx82703]

Question, does the noise go away when it gets hot ? My 2006 Pilot makes a noise on cold start up that almost mimics a sound of a diesel engine noise, the noise goes a away after about 60 seconds...

[@BingChilling420_]

Exhaust manifold gaskets. Leaks exhaust when cold, but when the metal heats up it closes the gap and the noise goes away

[@cbnx82703]

@@BingChilling420_ not my issue...

[@darrellsomerville8092]

@@BingChilling420_ Could be power steering pump Honda hose o-rings dry out. Usually noticeable during cold weather, also low power steering level, I had to run my mine above the full level.

[@joseesquivias3078]

I had my headgaskets replaced and know when it's cold it makes a raddling noise after a minute it goes away

[@cheetoshotfries2289]

I have a clik in my engine. Checked cams all good just smoking extra out the exgaust. More oil is being burnt rod knock. Piston rings?

[@rrcoster]

Have Merry Christmas if don't see another upload tell after Christmas

[@adanarceo4636]

just replacing the timing belt tensioner will fix the problem. and I didn't see the whole video ok.

[@carolkhoury120]

This is the one!❤️

[@TheOutwiththeold]

use a lisle 19mm socket on the crank bolt....

[@user-ew6tk3zx5y]

what is the price of replacement belt and parts in canada 2023?

[@samuelgranados776]

I use battery power m18 Milwaukee gun 1/2 drive it takes it off like butter 🧈

[@myroneh9570]

Thanks just save me alot

[@jensonmarugan6000]

very nice presentation , what is the problem with honda pilot some kind of howling noice (not a rattling noise) , some times it is worse

[@andyl9920]

Why r some people saying its the serpentine belt tensioner

[@nicholasleslie1162]

Before replacing the tensioner, did the rattling stop at any point in time while the engine was running? I have a 09 Honda Inspire with the J35A engine that has a rattle at cold start up, however the rattling stops as soon as the engine gets up to operating temperature. Any possible reasons why this happens?

[@danb1391]

Same here.

[@98sauce]

Same her too.

[@millys4368]

I deal with this. 75k miles 2016 accord V6 touring

[@Kornbeefy661]

@@millys4368 Hi Milly how long does it take for the noise to stop after starting the touring?

[@millys4368]

@@Kornbeefy661 probably ab 2-3 mins or so. Im in PA winters have been about 10-20 degrees here overnight as well. i usually never hear it during the warmer summer and spring months. Its always loudest on cold starts first thing in the morning. Im at ab 78k miles rn

[@jimmybeauxarts]

Good job

[@alcerz984]

It's the cummins version

[@F4834N]

mine has a slight tick but no rattle.

[@dogzlf]

I just replaced mine -_- and it made the noise again less than 12 months later

[@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801]

does the noise go on and off ?? and disappear in park when you rev at 3k for minute or so

[@diaga9757]

I’m having the same Problem too.It sounds like a Pulley making Noise.I changed the DriveBelt and DriveBelt Tensioner.I still hear Whining Noise.

[@ceylontea5877]

How many miles on it

[@franmujica6026]

Couldd a low or poor quality motor oil cause it to rattle as well?

[@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN]

Absolutely not

[@mykcorleone24]

I apologize, I'm not a big car guy.. Any other possible reasons to get this noise. I have that identical noise . It's seems my timing belt has no slack whatsoever. Real tight. Any other causes you'd be familiar with? Any advice would be appreciated.

[@systemloading6875]

What did your noise end up being?

[@littlelizardpsycho5178]

Did you find what the problem was ?

[@jesustorivio9280]

Was that a crack by the pulley?

[@fergap9438]

Got a question, I changed tb, wp, idler and tensioner about 3000 miles ago and then I noticed the rear cam pulley was making noise. I removed the upper timing covers to make sure, also noticed that the timing belt was a bit loose between the two cam pulleys. Is that looseness normal? Wasn't like that when I replaced it. Just so you know all parts are aisin.

[@gabevillarreal96]

Does that sound go away when the car is warm?

[@matthewvalentine3549]

Wish someone would answer this as I've done a tone o research. My 06 v6 accord has a ticking tapping noise only on cold start when it's below 45 degrees. Not as loud as this video shows. MAYBE it's not as bad yet? Getting a stethoscope to make sure. Also you can apparently do this without removing covers.

[@gtdodgeviper]

My engine sound just like that. But its gets louder when its on drive and reverse and quieter when parked or neutral. Is that how yours was?

[@maileevyne5000]

Same.

[@PitViper-bs4nz]

Just had to replace the motor mount on passenger side. It was making it sound like there was something rattling and scrubbing. Replaced the motor mount now everything is quiet.

[@onlyme8870]

If someone monitors this. I have 2008 pilot 3.5l at load a vibration noise rattle. If I press harder no noise unless it's loaded like on a hill or on take off or kinda going steady. Is this the same issue but hasn't got too the full time rattle? At first I thought it was the exhaust cat cover but nope. So anyone send a confirmation before I take to a mechanic.

[@velox731]

Nice work! May I take our Honda Pilot to you?

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

135k on that bad boy, when is the belt supposed to be replaced? 100k or 120k?

[@bradenwuesthoff5639]

407ForRent 100k

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

I’d rather have the I4 with the timing chain. You can’t use the V6 power anyway with the low speed limits.

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

Brian Does the v6’s are dogs

[@glasser2819]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q actually never mind the power... these Honda V6 have low rpm torque between 1,000Rpm and 2,000Rpm, no need to redline it to get moving.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

G Lasser The I4 will move the car at idle.

[@hondatrix]

Excessive mileage causes this...replace it at or around 100k miles, and the J will run for ever..

[@glasser2819]

especially if you use low rpm torque and stay away from high rpm that kill old converter and loose transmission bearings.

[@hortonsstuff6948]

That happened to ours

[@FlipSideGarage]

What so u use to mark the gear and belt. That white thing

[@bobbyu8991]

Knew someone with 375k on original belt they were talked into getting it done shop put it on wrong ruined the motor

[@johnlopez3001]

I hope the shop compensated the customer for their mistake .

[@bobbyu8991]

@@johnlopez3001 no

[@johnlopez3001]

@@bobbyu8991 😡

[@joselatorre8421]

Hi, what is the name of the part that makes the raddled noise

[@Docstantinople]

There’s nothing wrong with that engine, that’s just the vtec kicking in. 🙃