Honda CBR650R E Clutch on the South East 500... ish

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I took the 2024 Honda CBR650R e clutch along half of Simon Weir's 'South East 500' route, to test out the bike and this new e-clutch system.
Nearly 300 miles later, what're my thoughts?
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@darrensnapes6646 11 күн бұрын

Thanks for a great review. I went to the motorcycle live show at the NEC yesterday (16/11/2024) with desires for the CBR 600RR. After sitting on that with its race position compared with the more comfortable and upright position of the 650, plus this review, I reckon I’m sold. Brilliant review. Scenic, comprehensive and great footage. Thanks and great work!

@teapotone 10 күн бұрын

Thanks Darren 👍

@kevskibiz 2 ай бұрын

Real world bike with our speed cameras … number 1 selling bike in Europe and e-clutch for 8k … happy days … great review 👊

@dungbeetle. 3 ай бұрын

That E-Clutch would work wonders on an adventure / dual sport bike. No low speed stalls on steep, tricky dirt sections but can still slip the clutch when needed during low speed tight maneuvers. Brilliant.

@dungbeetle. 3 ай бұрын

@@Jlk-rm1jv You'd hold a little throttle on to stop the roll back as you would with any other clutchless transmission such as Honda's DCT and maybe use some front brake to help hold position if needed. Off road you'd probably need to disable rear wheel traction control though, or else you'd end up rolling back in slippery conditions as the rear wheel would refuse to keep driving against the slipping and sliding.

@dungbeetle. 3 ай бұрын

@@Jlk-rm1jv Yes. If the engine is off and the bike is left in gear, the clutch engages and the bike won't roll backwards or forwards, just the same as with a conventional motorcycle gearbox (and as demonstrated by TMF in his video on the Honda CB650R's E-Clutch).

@4tech69 3 ай бұрын

No. Stop this madness.

@gasdive 3 ай бұрын

@@Jlk-rm1jv you don't need that on a motorcycle, only a car. The side stand does this job perfectly well.

@cliveomahoney4096 3 ай бұрын

The e-clutch is fabulous. I got used to it pretty much immediately. It worked perfectly for me at every rev/speed and from a standstill. Having the clutch as an option is also great. Far more versatile and controllable than DCT. IF I can sell my Hornet, I'm buying the naked CB650R with it.

@RussRyan7713 3 ай бұрын

I got mine March 1st. Non e-clutch. First bike after 30 years off riding. I wanted something that looked amazing and turned heads, had that old skool power ( tzr250 previous bike). Also being the opposite of you. 5' 4" 28" inside leg, I can actually touch the ground on this which was great to find out at the dealer. So I ordered it. As an all round bike I think it's great. Super fun when you wind it up over 8k. Nice and calm lower down. Add the sports pack and a tail tidy and it looks fantastic. I am super happy with it. 2.5k miles so far and enjoyed every ride. Great review over a nice ride. Also enjoyed your advanced commentary in sections. 👍.

@andrewdyson4255 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely spot on, taxed to death or they would prefer us to be on public transport. I’m impressed with that bike looks a good little thing.

@stevietrucker4631 3 ай бұрын

People who have experienced this all say that it's a fantastic piece of kit and love it. I can't wait to try it myself 1 day.

@SuperchargedLlama 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm sold! I ride a dct at the moment and whilst I love it, I do miss being able to blip the throttle in traffic. I've got a mildly dodgy left knee, but a very dodgy left wrist, so lots of clutch work is a bastard for me personally. Shame your bike seems to have an issue with the display though 😅

@garyrobinson6247 3 ай бұрын

I'm sure it is a nice bike, but, I bought a 2007 sprint 1050 in 2014 for about a third of the price of this bike and I'm still riding it today. Fantastic bike. Being a largish triple, I don't need to rag it to get the smiles. Lots of new bikes on the market, but there are many much better bikes available for less money on the used market. Great review Bruce but I wouldn't recommend going down this route to get bang for your buck. I live in the environs of the A32/A272 and you can blame the MP Flick Drummond for the average speed cameras, she and her elitist friends didn't like to hear motorcycle riders enjoying themselves. How dare they have fun, absolutely not allowed.!!!

@MV-XD2 3 ай бұрын

I bought a bike twenty years ago and it was about half the price of your sprint. So what? And the average speed cameras are because of so many d*ckhead power rangers with limited skill on sports bikes doing 100+ mph, binning it and getting scraped off the road. If you live nearby you would have heard them every single weekend and summer evening. It’s the sneaky dropping of speed limits all over the country by idiot councils that think everyone has to ride/drive at bicycle speeds as it’s more “green” that is the real problem.

@martincander7165 3 ай бұрын

Loved this video of you riding all my old favorite roads I’ve been living in indiana for the last 24 years so I miss some of those roads thanks really enjoyed that ride safe( live it love it )

@233kosta Ай бұрын

I put a radial master on mine, it's absolutely transformed the front brake.

@kurttallon 3 ай бұрын

Nice review Bruce, thanks for taking us along. Really enjoyed that 👍

@SteveBrowner 3 ай бұрын

Nearly had a fit at the beginning,you nearly went past my front door😂 yes the roads are full of cameras,cars and tractors but as usual there are some gems if you know 🤫 .i think it would take my brain a while to adjust to the e-clutch, I'm still exited about electric start,keep up the good work 👍

@exeterrider 3 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to trying this one. Just when you think they have thought of everything.... Then the E clutch🎉

@ScottishPaul45 3 ай бұрын

Always good to hear your thoughts Bruce, great vid!

@John-cz2pe 3 ай бұрын

Nice one Bruce, short of jumping on it myself,you pretty much made me feel like I'd had most questions covered. I think that e clutch for the price is just amazing, gives you best of all worlds really and I'm sure you could have the throttle tuned, to get rid of any snatching. It just looks amazing in that colour too. I'm from the era of keeping it in the rev range, so for me it would be a blast, screaming it. Pretty decent sound out of it too and as you said, all for under 9 grand 😮

@flat_battery7653 3 ай бұрын

Thise are lovely roads, 1st time on the A272 the other week. Doing my Bike Safe course. Lovely spot. Need yo go back again. Anither great vid! ❤

@glennollerenshaw8466 3 ай бұрын

Loved it Bruce keep up the great work cheers Glenn.

@christopherhorton5449 3 ай бұрын

A great review as always, This bike has passed me by, I'm impressed. The E - clutch unit looks a big lump on the side though. I can see the attraction, but it would be wasted on me. I would probably be using the clutch all the time. Old habits die hard ☺

@JoelCooper-sv8ru 9 күн бұрын

Love this video 👍 I'm stuck between that bike or a new Daytona 660 🤔 however that honda looks like a lot of fun for a new rider like me. Cheers for the review

@FenTour 3 ай бұрын

Great vid Bruce, David loves his 650r E clutch and somehow keeps leading me into 3 figures with the MXR in follow mode. It’s a beautiful looking bike indeed. I am looking forward to testing the auto GSA 1300 when the demos arrive in October. Cheers.

@barryjmarling 3 ай бұрын

Great video Bruce,definitely sweet spot between DCT & manual,great bit of kit,and not outstandingly overpriced,nice one Honda.

@markfromleeds 3 ай бұрын

Great review pal. I’ve never heard of The technology, so thank you for your review

@MetamorphicWonders 3 ай бұрын

Now i found this interesting Bruce. Never seen that on a bike. A nice new concept well explained and tested…. Matt.

@jakell3537 3 ай бұрын

I know reviews aren't your thing but nice review Bruce. Enjoyed it. 👍

@lonely_trans_girl 3 ай бұрын

I love the idea of the e clutch! Like you mentioned, best of both worlds. Being able to clutch during low speed manoeuvres or off road with the added bonus of not needing to in traffic plus basically a quick shifter as well?!? Amazing. I wish they could retrofit. Not necessarily worth buying a new bike for but if I'm ever out to replace my bebe, I'll be looking for an e clutch model for sure! ❤️🏍️

@timothyhull1743 2 ай бұрын

Hello Bruce, Twas me on the venerable old FJ1200 your followed briefly . I was giving her a day out at the seaside

@Honda-world 3 ай бұрын

Good explanation of an E-bike I didn't know exactly what it was. To me it seems a bit like cruise control it takes over but is reluctant to give the control back if you know what I mean. Haha. I have a CBF600 and I find that exactly the same as what you are saying you have to make it scream to get the full potential out of the bike, and I find it very vibey. I'm now constantly looking at the boxer engine and the GS which I have never considered before. Your Fault Haha ride safe and look after your own. 👍

@Gsrider65 3 ай бұрын

Top vid that Bruce 👌

@233kosta Ай бұрын

For overtakes on A & B roads I tend to drop into 2nd. I'm sure everyone around me enjoys the song of my CB650R's people as much as I do 😅

@checker3694 3 ай бұрын

First available on MV Agusta thriples 5 years ago, and based on the Old Recluse system, used in Trails for years. And used in Harley aftermarket community for years, but now Electronic

@colingowler1493 3 ай бұрын

Excellent revue. Was put off NC750 dct as I could just see myself revving the engine whilst filtering. It would not have ended well. Eclutch could be the way to go.

@moxy909 3 ай бұрын

Great review, an oxbow lake is when the bendy bit comes detached from the main river 😉😂 only thing I remember from geography 😂😂

@nickrider5220 3 ай бұрын

On a fine day I like most bikes ! Pleasant bike and tickles you too 😮

@PhageUK 3 ай бұрын

Have done he 2089 many times. Some good pubs too

@firestorm755 3 ай бұрын

Years and years back I was loaned one of the then new jelly mold cbr600s. My gsx11 was in the shop and I set off on a fairly new little 600. It was comfy and seemed to have plenty of power, I thought why do I need an 1100? I got onto the motorway and all was well until I went to roll the throttle on in top gear to overtake. Nothing, absolutely nothing happened. Changed down a gear and still virtually nothing. Changed down again and regained done acceleration. It wasn't until the revs got really high that normal service resumed. All in all it was a great little bike but I was glad to get the big gsx11 back!

@KingBespokeCreations 3 ай бұрын

Great vid, can’t see a downside to having the option of clutch or not! As for sound, I don’t think there’s any unnecessary wind noise. However, can you change the little noise when your Patreon list comes on, it’s like an electric shock to the brain when listening through headphones!

@233kosta Ай бұрын

1st gear gets up to about 60 (at redline), so you can have a bit of fun at the sign 😉

@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын

E clutch looks good. I'll see if I can borrow one when I get my NT serviced.

@Alexander-of7ny 3 ай бұрын

FUD! Not heard that word since my school days in Uddingston in the 70’s

@barryrose4850 3 ай бұрын

People who only start riding with e- clutch are going to have fun when they try an old fashioned bike in a few years. Good luck TP1🍻

@Jim-nm1en 3 ай бұрын

Old fashioned bikes probably won't be around in a few years if our daft arsed politicians get their way.

@bigal5895 3 ай бұрын

Great vid Bruce!👍

@danielsalvadorgodoygil5804 3 ай бұрын

Saludos Bruce's desde Gran Canaria ❤🏍️💨💨💨💨

@danielsalvadorgodoygil5804 3 ай бұрын

Greetings Bruce's from Gran Canaria 🏍️💨💨💨💨

@danielsalvadorgodoygil5804 3 ай бұрын

❤

@philwelch4893 3 ай бұрын

Video is lovely and clear and colours are great. Not sure what you shot this on but it's working.

@philwelch4893 3 ай бұрын

Need to sort the stability on the 360 though, mine doesn't wobble like yours at all.

@alivekicking6247 17 күн бұрын

When you turned right onto the 272 past Loomies, they're average speed cameras as well as mics.

@jag1970s 3 ай бұрын

E-clutch very interesting. Thanks. I suspect an MT09 is more excitement for that kind of price point (or a touch more). Like you, I’m a bit big for these.

@TheOnceAndFutureDoug 3 ай бұрын

The USB part, from what I understand there's accessory ports you can set up that are fused up so they only drain when the bike is on. My impression is the USB always charges, which might be an issue if you're like me and use a QuadLock with a wireless charger (those things vampire a bit). I'm trying to find specifics about all of it because I already put a deposit down on one of these. Either way, coming to this from an SV650 so I'm pretty excited. Sounds like my SV is gonna have had more oomph low down but that this will be better at pretty much everything else.

@brianlongimanus9436 3 ай бұрын

Interesting bike great vid👍🏻

@allanmason7544 3 ай бұрын

nice one bruce

@CurvyFarmer 3 ай бұрын

The e-clutch Looks interesting but the bikes nots for me. Will be good to see it on other bikes

@Atilla8huno 3 ай бұрын

Nice old style of touring vids in the UK, I love them! Unrelated, which gloves are those? Seem lamb chop using too

@LambChopRides 3 ай бұрын

That route looks awesome Bruce going to have to try this one!

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

Aye it’s a good one, especially as it’s down here! 👍

@marcoluoma3770 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. About the seating position: I’m about your size, and have some arthritis in my knees. How long before you need to take a break and hat off the bike? Thanks again.

@gianmorencalilung9754 2 ай бұрын

Im hearing stoick accent on how to train your dragon movie on you😅 Someday im gonna get 1 of that beautiful bike.

@pjclark8624 3 ай бұрын

Great tour of the sarff coast, lovely flowing vid', more please. Electronic clutch looks ugly sticking out like that, looks aftermarket, looses points on that. Perfect for a motor cyclist who has lost their left hand. Other than that it feels like Honda patented it, then struggled to find a use for it when compared with their excellent DCT. Maybe they will combine the two on other models when they launch a hybrid?

@ThreeB78 3 ай бұрын

Just wondering about the insta360 shots looking at you... Not keen on the shakyness. Does it have image stabilisation? Lovely bike, definitely on my list

@markgr1nyer 3 ай бұрын

It's like a half way between DCT and manual, or a DCT in the manual mode but using a foot pedal instead of the triptonics

@hvymtal8566 3 ай бұрын

Love to see the TFT dash, looks like a big improvement over the outgoing model and making me cross-shop it more again for my next bike Two questions, and if you've covered them in the video a timestamp would be appreciated How's the gearing? I know one of the complaints of the outgoing model was that 1st and 2nd were geared fairly long, which put a bit of a damper on the 30-100mph fun; where do 1st and 2nd top out at? How's e-clutch in a stop-start environment? Is it as smooth as properly feathering or is there significant jerkiness? (looks like 7:00 this is indirectly covered. Butter!)

@benkelly2190 3 ай бұрын

Enjoyed that Bruce. I bumped into you the other day at BMW No1. On my joyous black, S-XR 2024. Will be reviewing this anytime soon? I hear you need converting!😁

@HalfManHalfPirate 3 ай бұрын

We still need to complete the blue circle on the IOW! You did look like you were wearing a Honda G string when doing the U turns 🤣

@ThreeB78 3 ай бұрын

I see it opening up for disabled riders also

@76roo76 3 ай бұрын

My left wrist is pretty well mashed so I can only ride bikes for about 50-60 miles before it starts really hurting. Got one on order, can't wait.

@ThreeB78 3 ай бұрын

@@76roo76Hope it goes well for you Are you going for the CBR or the CB? Just wondering if the CB being a bit more upright may help

@flexywing 3 ай бұрын

Looks like a lovely bike, bur how would it compare to the CB750 Hornet, I was looking at the CB650

@scottyuk 3 ай бұрын

The Helite vests have good coverage but their performance is awful when left in the wardrobe. My buddy does the same. I think it's due to the protective covering on them thst makes them heavy and restrictive on airflow. I'm still convinced my inner airvest is the best solution for me. Yes the bags have to be smaller but I wear it at all times.

@TwoFourCharlie007 3 ай бұрын

Wow what a revelation!! The bike really looks like the fire blade too…. Watch this space then eh?🤔

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

I’d like to try the new Fireblade, be interesting to see how ‘focused’ it really is for the road 👍

@martincander7165 3 ай бұрын

It’s just like a recluse clutch they make for a lot of bikes specially dirt bikes

@kevingallen1678 3 ай бұрын

You made a good point about congestion and cameras.The point is how bad does it have to get before biking just isn’t worth it? Or is that the plan?

@dreamcrusher112 3 ай бұрын

keep the bike for commuting and go have fun across the channel!

@MaidenUK 3 ай бұрын

That's the plan. All electric future. Where's the lithium coming from and what poor sods mining it

@highside1331 3 ай бұрын

If they re-launched the VFR1200X Crosstourer with this e-clutch system I would be VERY interested :O

@markholmes5695 3 ай бұрын

I don’t mind E clutch at all but I’ve quickshifter up and down on my SFV4s, it’s brilliant… what’s the difference between the two, I can still use the clutch if I want.

@rlw85 3 ай бұрын

Do you think the eclutch will be the way forward. With the camera sticking out front it looks like your bike jousting

@samgregory107 Ай бұрын

Sorry if this has been asked already but, what is the need for having a clutch lever at all? The e-clutch does it all, no?

@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын

Sad times about the A249. It changed to 40 in the early bit a while ago.

@KWlion Ай бұрын

Please! when you do a review, give us a good side view and fore and aft shot.

@andrewbozhozr 3 ай бұрын

Ok, good for people who have struggles with left hand, on the other hand it's manual... Not my cup of tea. DCT for me thank you. But, it's nice we have a options.

@JEmmertz 3 ай бұрын

To me this looks far bulkier and heavy than the DCT arrangement, and I do like the concept of DCT more. We will have to live to find out which one that Honda will go for in te long run (if not both...).

@thedragon1322 3 ай бұрын

Not even close. The e clutch system only weighs 4.5#, you’d be hard pressed to even notice the weight.

@jameskelly7118 3 ай бұрын

Bruce, for those of us still at Primary School… what’s the difference between this E-clutch and a quickshifter/blipper? (Asking for a mate… 😜)

@P6_7R_Nick 3 ай бұрын

So does it auto blip on down shifts Bruce?

@peter58murray 3 ай бұрын

the cameras around loomies are not noise detection, we thought they were but there not,well not yet anyway

@Steeps1969 3 ай бұрын

Do a slow speed u turn? How did that tun our?

@dreamcrusher112 3 ай бұрын

Come to the south west Bruce, better roads and far fewer cameras. no cameras in my county..

@SeelDesignsUK 3 ай бұрын

As a fellow large man. Would love to know where you get your gear from.

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

Jeans and hoodie from Roadskin (use code TEAPOTONE for 10% off). I bought my Rukka Nivala suit from Infinity Motorcycles, 3yrs 0% finance 👍

@d-equalizer 3 ай бұрын

So we have automatic sportsbike now? Like a scooter great for traffic just like automatic cars

@P.O-GSArider 3 ай бұрын

🤘👍🤘

@CharlesFBond Ай бұрын

keys. We've all done it, don't beat yourself up! You're obviously not an antique buff lol

@mitchdabeast_2103 3 ай бұрын

Love hearing a former copper complain about speed cameras😂

@Smudge64 3 ай бұрын

Such a shame that all manyfacturers done put a charging pouing near the steering head or clocks.

@LambChopRides 3 ай бұрын

Bruce rides a CB650R and think hes riding a sports bike 😂 Get that GSXR insured tight arse!! 😘

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

Ha Ha, it’s coming 😉

@colinm1325 3 ай бұрын

Eez, Bruce, be pretty careful, theyre bringing in some new rules there about speech and stuff....

@OfficialSpyderr Ай бұрын

as a person that owned a keyless ignition and fuel tank cap bike, i can tell you that no, they aren't too good. they end up sticking so you have to press them down and then it would spring open

@karlwalker1771 3 ай бұрын

I Paid £1500 For A Clean And Tidy VTR 1000F In Red 20.00 Miles On The Clock 5Yrs Ago And LOOVE It, Just Saying. The Clutch Is Fantastic If You Cannot Use A Clutch Then Drive An Automatic Car/Cager lol!

@phantomrider22 3 ай бұрын

Horrible entrapment with all the cameras in the UK.

@MotorSportsFan46 3 ай бұрын

Really Bruce? Really? Pulling the clutch and revving to let people know you are coming might be the dumbest thing I've heard you say. Most of the noise is going backwards not forwards and given the soundproofing of modern cars it's incredibly ineffective. If only there was something on the bike that projects sound forwards and was specially added for the sole purpose of making other road users aware of our presence 🤔 In case you hadn't guessed I'm suggesting that you use the horn FFS! 🙄

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

You’ve plainly never done this when filtering then, as revving the engine DOES work

@MotorSportsFan46 3 ай бұрын

@@teapotone no I haven't, because the horn is infinitely better suited to the job so I ride with my thumb covering the button in these situations. Go on please explain for me in what way revving is better? It's like using a hammer to insert a screw, yes it will work but a screwdriver will always do it better.

@dardobartoli 3 ай бұрын

You do realise most drivers will not hear an engine behind them! Clearly you don't.

@teapotone 3 ай бұрын

Whilst I appreciate you leaving so many comments on the vids, as it does wonders for engagement levels, do you ever have anything positive to say - or are you, as I hedge my bets, just a moaning old bugger?