Honda Civic Sport EP2 car review (Type R on a budget)

[@adams4100]

I had one of these for my first car at 17. Not the fastest but my god its the best handling car I've ever driven - lift off oversteer on roundabouts was a joy. The paintwork was terrible though you could sneeze on it and it would scratch.

[@Moeilijk18]

Never had lift off oversteer. Bought mine with shit 'dollar tree' tires so understeer madness. Got a good set at home now but waiting for new wheels to arrive

[@dempseylad7532]

What was insurance like

[@Twongz_does_anything]

would you say this is on par with a ford fiesta or an auldi a1

[@timo80ssmedia24]

@@Twongz_does_anything 110% better than both

[@adamiqbal23223]

Any issues I should keep an eye out for? Me and my twin brother are thinking of buying it as a learning car to keep for around a year

[@paulm114]

You were being generous giving the turning circle 5/10. It really is terrible haha

[@saveourplanet6051]

Good review, and very true what you said . A good way to get into Honda Civic’s even if you have to drive a poor mans type r for a while . Makes you appreciate the real type r more when you eventually get one

[@FNLEW]

Mugen Mugen thank you very much. And yes I think you've hit the nail on the head there. 👍🏻

[@conorf8091]

Yeah this is my plan. Ep2 for a year...don’t mod too much. See if it’s decent get ep3

[@brad_a9088]

Do miss my EP2, they’re mint for first cars. Can’t get much better for the money imo

[@FNLEW]

BC MX5 exactly my point mate.

[@kanewithers2612]

Yaris t sport

[@emad7229]

@@kanewithers2612ep2 100x better, I owned both.

[@evanauditoredafrienze]

Nice editing at the start bud, looking forward to more vids like these!

[@FNLEW]

Evan Hughes thank you mate I'm glad you enjoyed it ☺️

[@DJCrisisUK]

I’m nitpicking because this is a beautiful car, but, that dent on the passenger side is bugging me 😂😂😂

[@FNLEW]

DJ Crisis UK haha I did notice it too.

[@conradhumphrey7246]

Brilliant car review lewis . It Sound's and looks the dog's. Looked like a type r from a distance 👍

[@AR-ds4ly]

What a beautiful civic. Clean example mate

[@LordK1996]

3:17 when I used to put a crushed water bottle on the back of my bike as a kid 😂

[@angelicapestana662]

Same I still do

[@Honda_Man_Sam]

2:32 driving through chapeltown. I live about 1 minute away from that that pub (wagon&horses) sick video btw mate

[@FNLEW]

Bang on mate. Thank you 😊

[@SlayStormer]

I didnt expect the flashbang

[@davi66urtin]

gonna be my first car

[@jdmkills12]

Only thing I’ve noticed about these engines the D16V1(not stopping me from getting one) but when I looked up parts there isn’t much availability compared to the older generation engines all I could find that wasn’t cheap universal bits were headers exhaust and intake, still seem like great cars im buying one soon I can’t wait

[@JulianDaniel2003]

Update?

[@christianh3871]

You can use d16 internals, and older d16 valvetrain parts like cams/ rockers from a y8 for example. But K20 is really the way to go.

[@louiejonesponation]

My cousin called Oliver has this exact car and this exact colour but a different registration. I really want to get a Honda Civic EP2 Sport or an EP3 Type R in Competition White.

[@matthewavery850]

Honestly if you haven’t already, do it! I have an EP2 and it’s such a fun car no matter what you do with it

[@louiejonesponation]

@@matthewavery850 I’m only 14 but I’ll think about it, I’m also thinking that a Corsa B GSI would be a good first car.

[@gordonremsey8055]

I'd love one

[@colojr1690]

What she do miles per gallon? Great vid btw.

[@FNLEW]

I'm not sure on this buddy sorry. Looks like a job for Google.

[@EP3mentalist]

I've got a buddy club 4,2,1decat manifold and a 2.5 inch buddy club prospec exhaust with an ITG induction kit on my Ep3. Its bloody loud, but really nice tone. If you take it easy it's not bad, about 20-23 mpg, if you tonk it in vtec you can see the fuel needle dropping. Was my daily drive for 13 years until I got my fn2 champ white last month so it can be economic on fuel. It's now a project car, can't part with her.

[@richardd8352]

My fn2 is averaging around 28mpg. Mixed driving. This is regular driving, under 4 thou. The type R is thirsty, love it. On a long cruise I had it averaging 31 but anything lively it soon drops. So in reality mpg is anywhere between low 20's and low 30's dependant on conditions.

[@paulthomas6609]

FYI; EP2's have D16V1 a VTEC-E engine, they're not that tunable and don't like to rev out. The VTEC crossover is about 2.3k rpm where it switches from the low rpm 'high swirl' econcomy cam to a standard one, there's absoloute no 'vtech-yo' here.... the economy and low rpm response is further obliterated if you decide to remove the inlet resonator.

[@FNLEW]

Great

[@ChrisTheBasileus]

That's false, the D16V1s and V3s are not VTEC-E. The way they set it up in this specific engine is by having aggressive exhaust valve profiles at all times. For the intake valves, 4 are always on an aggressive profile, while the other 4 are in a much lower "economy" profile. The VTEC activates and it basically switches the economy-mode 4 over to the aggressive profile of the other four. It's pretty clever. In any case, the VTEC doesn't have an exact switch-over point, it's based entirely on how the ECU calculates speed, gear and rpm. Thus no, it does not switch from an economy cam to a standard one, it turns all 8 intake valves into an aggressive one rather than 4/4. VTEC kicked in yo is unnecesary in this case, it's a much smoother transition.

[@paulthomas6609]

@@ChrisTheBasileus I disagree, the partial opening of one of the two intake valves is consistent with the early 2-lobe VTEC-E definition [source wikipedia]. In this generation of Civic the D16 engine was massaged to be Euro-4 emmissions compliant, why couldn't they have done this with the D17 for a little more power? The low-rpm phase with 'added swirl' helps to improve low-speed fuel economy to the point where there is little to differentiate between it and the non-VTEC 1.4 engine. In 2004 with the facelift version Honda UK were trying to push the '1.6 Sport' trim particularly in the brochure, I can't imagine for a moment they would have highlighted the economy optimised aspect of the engine! I owned a '1.6 SE' from 2004-10, I ran mine on super unleaded (ron-97) and was disappointed by the engine, maybe because of the SOHC drivetrain and compromised map, but for me there was no top-end 'zing', maybe my engine was not 100%?

[@hisheeelijah1482]

@@paulthomas6609 whats ur idea of if i swapped a d16y8 head onto a 1.4l block

[@paulthomas6609]

@@hisheeelijah1482 I have a distant memory that the block is the same for 1.4 & 1.6 units, back in the day people were either putting highlift non-VTEC cams in 1.4 engines or shipping 1.7 heads / ECU's from asia to europe to get good power gains, this might be harder to do 15 years later.

[@eslameddinghalebi1]

Tinted rear lights PLEASE!

[@OGSplinter000]

i've just got my self a fn2, are you based in sheffield ? only asking because i am xD Do you ever do meet ups?

[@FNLEW]

I am in sheffield mate but I've never done a meet up before 🤔

[@OGSplinter000]

@@FNLEW no worries. Well ifi see you driving about, I'll give you a flash 😂. You part of the honda civic fn2 group on fb? Ive only had the car 2 weeks, n loving every bit of it 👌👌

[@FNLEW]

@@OGSplinter000 haha nice one. I am indeed yes. It's a brilliant car to own.

[@aidanstewart1316]

Would you reccomend this for an 18y/o ??

[@FNLEW]

If the insurance is adorable then why not.

[@ewanjohnston5985]

What wheels are those all help appreciated?

[@FNLEW]

I think they're xsr 527

[@ewanjohnston5985]

FNLEW thanks they look amazing and wanted to get them for my Corolla g6r , videos amazing mate 👍

[@FNLEW]

@@ewanjohnston5985 no worries and thank you 😊

[@goshhT]

Great review, that EP2 looks mad! Any details on the owners instagram ?

[@FNLEW]

Tay Lor thank you. It's Kyle_ep2

[@goshhT]

FNLEW Awesome, thanks very much

[@dylanscott1570]

Anyone else think he sounds like guy Martin ?

[@elaxel1469]

which exhaust is this? I have a pre facelift ep2 and doesnt sound like this.

[@FNLEW]

I can't remember but I say it in the video. I think it's some combination of three different ones 😂.

[@i.aproductions7495]

Hi , I cant seem to find this car anywhere, I've had look on autotrader, they only have ep3s, where can u find these ? I've looked everywhere

[@FNLEW]

That or ebay are your best bet. Should be under EP2 or Civic Sport.

[@i.aproductions7495]

Thanks alot mate, that helped me

[@FNLEW]

@@i.aproductions7495 no problem dude 👍🏻

[@GarethBolton]

Interested to know, you mentioned the car is decat, what does he do when it comes to MOT? Does he have a stock downpipe or what?

[@FNLEW]

Gareth Bolton yeah he swaps it for a standard cat for the mot 👍🏻

[@markyoung6454]

Are them seats standard??

[@FNLEW]

They are yes.

[@jadenshortland6653]

Hi I am a young driver and would like something sporty and fun to drive but Insurance is an annoyance

[@FNLEW]

Jaden Shortland well this is a good car to start with or even a Jazz sport can always be cool ☺

[@cliffordsant3262]

It looks good but performance is not good its a single cam with 110 hp as much as my grandmas vits

[@FNLEW]

Unfortunately that's what makes it cheaper to insure.

[@cliffordsant3262]

@@FNLEW but you can get the civic ek with the 1.6 vtech that puts out 130 bhp

[@FNLEW]

@@cliffordsant3262 fair enough, but I think the less modern handling wouldn't be as stiff as this would be cornering wise so it's pros and cons.

[@jadenshortland6653]

Right thanks

[@MrThemoonie]

Are there LED bulbs fitted to the headlights? :D

[@FNLEW]

You insert them inside the headlight casing.

[@keatsy9333]

Ive just bought one of these how much would the insurance be for a new 17 yr old driver

[@FNLEW]

I haven't a clue mate sorry. All depends on post code, insurer, named drivers, inflation etc. A comparison site is your best bet.

[@kris985]

Around £1300 a year

[@keatsy9333]

KriS98 this is with a black box I’m guessing as don’t want black box insurance how much would that be

[@AquaFlowGaming]

@@keatsy9333 Depends have you passed your test yet or are you still on a provisional licence? What year is the car, do you live in a town or rural area? Is there any modifications done to the car that you're going to need to declare? Ep2's are a deadly first car but having a blackbox in your car defeats the purpose of owning one in my opinion. Ye you should take is easy going through the town and not act a prick but when your on an open back road we all love to give it a good razzing. Insurance companys label civics as boy racer cars and they hold it at a higher risk lvl then most cars so your automatically going to be paying a higher premium then you would on a different make of car with an equivalent power output. Best thing to do is try get insured under your parents as a named driver on their insurance, otherwise they will charge you an utter mess of a price considering your age.

[@davekellett727]

@@AquaFlowGaming why you telling him how to live his life with a civic shut up and let him do his own thing

[@i.aproductions7495]

Hey, is stock ep2 still nippy?

[@FNLEW]

It's nippy but not exactly fast

[@drchunkybiscuit9973]

If you had to choose between this & yours, which one would you pick?

[@FNLEW]

Dr Chunky Biscuit well I'd choose mine because I'm used to the power but if I'd had neither and money was a factor then I'd get the ep2.

[@slinkysuda6713]

Can you list the body mods

[@jasonborgmillo7482]

type r badges, really :p

[@FNLEW]

Only red Hs mate 😂

[@JUVR0967]

I was saying in my head that grill is worth more than the car

[@FNLEW]

Probably

[@gracehunt6138]

What insurance group is it?

[@FNLEW]

I'm not quite sure on that one sorry

[@a7fyb774]

13

[@SickWill]

Excellent cars although I’m a bit biast 😂

[@FNLEW]

Sick Will haha just a bit 😂

[@aaronobrien7821]

Are these reliable?

[@FNLEW]

Aaron O'Brien I'd say so yes. Most hondas are quite reliable.

[@ironeyes82]

Very!! I had mine for over 5yrs and I never had a problem, drove it from 86k to 147k until someone wrote me of last month, I now have a type r ep3 😎

[@realSTYLISHx]

Dre Joseph sorry to hear that, just had my motorcycle writ off after someone hit me. I’ve seen a Civic Sport 2004 which has done 120,000+ miles (FHSH) apparently. Should be a good bet then ?

[@lelisamohamed4355]

Is that a question mate it’s Honda

[@quoconut5788]

RealSTYLISHx I’m 20 turning 21 do I realistically get an ep2 or ep3 ????!

[@c_red_edition9587]

What’s the rpm vtec engagement? I usual take mine to 4K revs on 3 gear / 4 to 5th no higher on mine as I put it back to fully standard due to using it for work and couldn’t afford filling it constantly 😂

[@FNLEW]

Craig chapman haha it's usually between 5-5.5k Revs. It doesn't hurt to treat yourself every now and then. 😂

[@c_red_edition9587]

FNLEW scared that I’m going to blow it up say it to everyone with the tiny manifold on it 😂 I used to take it to that with toyo mani on it about 6k revs but haven’t with this one I darent 😂 got a sponge panel filter on it though so helps breath abit 🙈

[@FNLEW]

Craig chapman they're made to rev to the limiter and love it mate. That's why these engines were built to rev so high. My engine is completely stock. I only have a catback exhaust. Honda engines are known for being bulletproof from factory so you're probably in the safest car to rev up mate 😂.

[@c_red_edition9587]

FNLEW very true might give it ago in the morning 😂 take it you’ve got a fn2? What’s your Instagram I’m follow you 😀😀

[@FNLEW]

Craig chapman haha yes that's what I drive. It's fn_lew. It's in the description too 👌🏻

[@quoconut5788]

Mod list ?

[@FNLEW]

Sorry dude its just what's stated in the video.

[@jadenshortland6653]

And cheap to modify

[@danhole5560]

I'm getting one of these soon but I'm sorry.. No exhaust too cringe

[@FNLEW]

No problem, I will say they're much quieter exhausts 😂

[@patrykkm3911]

please name and size wheels ;)

[@FNLEW]

Patryk Km the wheels are xxr 527 8.25j 17” et35

[@key20b83]

I swear he’s going through chapeltown Sheffield

[@FNLEW]

Key20 B that's correct 👍🏻

[@key20b83]

I seen you on a couple of times I beep at you last time 👍

[@FNLEW]

Key20 B oh really? what do you drive?

[@key20b83]

Black corsa c with a side plate I beeped at you on yew lane, you looked so confused 😂

[@key20b83]

Love the vids dude keep it up 👍👍

[@williamlissenden4637]

The amount he spent on the car he could of bought a ep3

[@FNLEW]

Maybe, but not insure it.

[@MrRothar]

Sid :D

[@arthursimon8159]

I boost it💨

[@FNLEW]

Arthur Simon boost and budget don't really mix 😂

[@ctrmint]

Isn't it an EP3??

[@FNLEW]

ctrmint no the 2 letre type R is the EP3.

[@davekellett727]

Ep1 is 1.4 Ep2 is 1.6 Ep3 is 2.0

[@clutchfreak13]

That hook behind , I mean, cmon , that is so ugly!

[@FNLEW]

Are you just hunting for tow hooks 😂? I don't think people are bothered what others think when they put one on. I'm certainly not.

[@samdaman5763]

Whats the insurance like on these?

[@hisheeelijah1482]

If your in ireland forget it m8 unless u can afford to pay 4 grand a year. Speak about getting ripped off.

[@jadenshortland6653]

The Insurance was really high on one of these

[@FNLEW]

Jaden Shortland anything small can still be modded to your taste. Nissan micras are really popular.

[@GG-up9rw]

Bla Bla Bla Bla on voit pas les perf ni la voiture

[@FNLEW]

Sorry I don't speak French.

[@JahoSelamaj]

D series 🤮🤮👎

[@leemurphy5253]

Would the insurance be really expensive for a first time driver?

[@FNLEW]

It can be for most cars but I'd always recommend trying a car enthusiast car insurance or modified car insurance.

[@leemurphy5253]

@@FNLEW ah right thanks man