Honda Ignition lock repair step by step | Locksmith Tip

Honda Ignition Lock Repair step by step guide! Honda Ignitions fail constantly! If you are in the locksmith industry working on these locks will be unavoidable. The locksmith tip will explain why the wafers fail!
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[@yaboi3697]

I'm going to be taking apart my 2004 Honda Civic door lock to match the ignition lock, this came out just in time! Thank you

[@daviderhahon]

Great video. Enough detail. Yes, the OEMs do have empty slots. Those empty slots are what accumulate all the dirt and grime which later cause problems.

[@sashajohnson5586]

DUDE 46 seconds that wasn’t wasted! IF I COULD TRIPLE LIKE THIS VIDEO I WOULD. Lol worked the first time omg thank youuu

[@fivel256]

I learned from another locksmith. Before you start in the field, especially if someone else worked on it first. You can get the switch off the back. Insert the current key and make sure it starts before you get too deep into it. My first one was really a learning experience and cost quite a bit to keep my customer happy. I didn't verify when I started and their immo ring was damaged. I didn't do anything that would damage it, but didn't verify it functioned when I tore into it. Lesson learned. But now I'm more educated and confident. Great walkthrough PJ.

[@donaldmatthews3999]

If you take all the wafers out will the will it still start

[@fivel256]

@@donaldmatthews3999 yes, but you can turn it with anything., Or if it's got the little ears, just turning it. It's a safety thing. It'll also just turn freely.

[@markanthonyalamillojr.2586]

@@donaldmatthews3999I took out the wafers and my ignition is still locked. What can be the problem?

[@user-ty4gw2ov4r]

Great video!! super informative! Thank you for not gatekeeping! I fixed my Honda's wafers and i saved a whole lotta cash too, thanks a bunch!!

[@tamramilner8555]

Thanks for show this. 😊

[@JuanReyes-tg9pc]

Nice …. I been seeing a lot of guys replacing the hole thing and leaving it how comes. So now they have two keys. This is the way to do it.

[@ShitWrangler]

00:45 I like your video because right out of the gate you disclosed the root cause why they fail issue. Very important going into an AI filled future where it doesn't beat around the bush give the run around, it'll shoot you straight, like the video you have produced here. So in many ways, you were ahead of AI by two years. Congratulations on being useful when humans were still of utility.

[@lmars5933]

Nicely done well explained. 🌟⭐🌟⭐🌟😎

[@gwhite0992]

Great detail on the wafer and spring placement. I tried to find a diagram of the inner mechanism but no luck.

[@MrCarverBliss]

Did we deal with the chip and immobilizer? I just removed the problem wafers from the cylinder, put it back together and it works, no issues.

[@jeffmoss26]

I have to do one of these tomorrow! never fun.

[@pouncerminned863]

How do you determine track a and b on these? I’ve never rekeyed a Honda ignition, but wanna know which sides appertain to which chamber?

[@Jon-jk8vd]

never had a problem until I accidently put a Nissan key in the ignition!!

[@ignaciosola]

omg I think this is what happened to me. And I dont remember forcing the nissan key so I believe its a bit too sensitive

[@ismail_al]

very well!

[@hashimshariff2743]

Hi thanks with the video. But please can you explain on replacing the key tumblers which numbers go in first coz sometimes you removed and didnt check. Atleast that will help

[@lawrenzj9312]

Hi, I would like to know if you have any idea regarding my honda car, it is detecting that there's a key in the ignition switch even if I already pull out the key. The fob won't let me lock the car automatically because it's detecting a key inside and I confirm this because whenever I open the door it will sound chirp, meaning that the key is still inside. By the way I've repaired the key cylinder thanks for your video it helps a lot👍🙂.

[@WarLockAndKey]

Very helpful!!! #LOCKBOSS

[@markanthonyalamillojr.2586]

2006 Honda CRV. took out wafers. Re assembled (no springs or wafers) key turns cylinder, but not when I insert into the housing. Do I need rto get a new part?

[@timbutler5690]

I pin from the front to the back. Pushing the key in as I go. No need for tape.

[@clksupplies]

Hi Tim, Great idea! Thanks for sharing. -PJ

[@RadicallyLowly]

A Question❓❓❓ What if u bought a cylinder lock online with 2 keys and on your old key u removed the little item in the key caps and put them in the new keys. Would that be sufficient enough for the car to recognize the key without programming. The old key u took out that little piece and put it in the new key.

[@AG-SYS]

Fantastic video but there's one thing I'm not clear about. Let's say I get a new ignition cylinder and mechanical key as sold on your website. The new ignition cylinder is pinned to the new key. If I simply had my old key with it's chip/transponder near the ignition cylinder would I be able to start the car with the new mechanical key? Or do the wafers in the ignition cylinder have to match the transponder code?

[@clksupplies]

Wafers and transponder can be different,

[@AG-SYS]

@@clksupplies Thank you! So the scenario I suggested (mechanical key with old transponder near by) will work!

[@lowbvll8969]

My ignition is locked and won’t turn at all and when I open car door it beeps like it has a key in there but it doesn’t. What’s wrong with my ignition?

[@villagehardcore2772]

same. What did you end up doing?

[@lowbvll8969]

@@villagehardcore2772 drilled out the roll pin and removed the lock cylinder then replaced the wafers inside the ignition lock and it was all good

[@tamramilner8555]

Hey. Can you leave any of the pins out? My locksmith took the last 2 at the end out and just thru them away. Didn't put in new ones He put my car back together and now the remotes don't work and the door locks don't work. Also a "remove your key" warning pops up even if the key I removed Please help me. I'm single mom getting screwed from the locksmith. I need to fix it my self

[@seanbaker3185]

#Lockboss Explained very well, and a ton of good info. Visual really helps.

[@breached7288]

Very detailed and well explained. Thank you P.J. for posting this. #lockboss

[@jim21804]

Great video. My key wouldn’t turn so I removed all the wafers. When I put the lock back into the housing (the part that bolts to the steering column) the key doesn’t turn. Am I doing something wrong or will the key turn when everything is back together in the car (sensor attached etc)?

[@brennankoopman1740]

I am also having this issue!

[@markanthonyalamillojr.2586]

@@brennankoopman1740dealing with that now. Removed all wafers and put ignition back in but my key still won’t turn. Do I need a whole new part?

[@brennankoopman1740]

Depending on your model, its likely you triggered the ignition lock somehow. To dissable it, i had to call an auto locksmith to dissassemble the entire steering block to unlock the ignition lock. If you're willing to try to unscrew the unheaded bolts that secure the assembly to the wheel yourself with a chisel and hammer, then you may not need a locksmith, but i didn't have the tools and needed my car. Cost me around 100$

[@jim21804]

Turns out I left a piece out. There is a small black piece that fits into the lock to keep the bar for the steering lock from preventing the lock from turning. I found a locksmith on KZbin (kerns Keys in Bakersfield ca) and sent the lock to him. He rebuild the lock and cut a new key so I can use my old keys and not need to reprogram the car.

[@giorgioio]

​@@jim21804 what peace? can tou explayn mee? i have same problem i dont khmow what to do

[@ceciliacarmona4208]

I did this and it worked great however now my immobilizor light flashes (even though the car starts just fine) then turns off and the beeper thing to unlock doors no longer works. I tried reprogramming the beeper and disconnected battery but no luck. I can hear the locks after going through reprogramming process but once I turn on or off car the light comes back on. Do you know what could be happening??

[@clksupplies]

You need to use the chip from the original key otherwise you need to get the new one programmed

[@julioayendedelgado9057]

My friend!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!

[@akimateru7980]

I have the same problem with my 2006 Honda Ridgeline...key won't turn and won't come out... I was told by this mechanic that the part cost 400 and he said labor is 700 dollars.he charge me 11 hundreds for it to get it repaired. I feel like I've been over charge for the repare..how much does it usually cost to get it fix or replace?

[@pouncerminned863]

I repair these for around 275-325. Depends if you have to remove just cylinder or remove the whole assembly. Plus key cutting and programming I charge extra 125. All in all with parts, labor and programming comes out to around 450 or so

[@jcbenson01]

Thank you. Auto tech here with limited experience with keys/locks. Making a repair on the wife’s pilot. So are all of the wafers numbered/coded so that if I buy that kit, I can just replace each wafer one for one and maintain the original coding?

[@clksupplies]

You will have to match up each one

[@pouncerminned863]

I bought this kit from CLKSupplies. It’s great and yes they are numbered.

[@shawnc4690]

Awesome video, Thank you! #LOCKBOSS

[@curlyq1269]

Nice detailed video! Thank you PJ! #Lockboss

[@rancidhorrorstories1986]

I'm driving a honda oddessey, but now i got a problem with the key.. before it's hard to turn the ignition but now the key was stuck in the ignition between off and on, how can i fix it?

[@carloslizarde8221]

If someone can help me, I did all the steps in this video but I removed almost all the pins because they were damaged but the car doesn't turn on and the green light is flashing, what should I do? to remove the problem

[@willhaile9272]

I would like to see how you got that roll pin out far enough to grab with a tool. so it appears that once the key is in the cylinder, the wafers don't fall out. What keeps the wafers from falling out. Also, are there wafers on either side of the cylinder, and the spring in the middle? That wasn't clear for me. Thanks for the video

[@clksupplies]

I just put some pliers on it and pulled it out! When the key is in the wafers can't fall out as the little finger piece is holding it on-PJ

[@alanpack3045]

How do I read the key code on the cylinder to reinstall the pins?

[@NebuChadNezzarKBDN]

Easier just to remove the wafers except the last one then re-install and use the same key.

[@jayciejaybee7872]

Facts. Removed the cylinder at home, took it to locksmith who removed all wafers except one and then took it back home and reinstalled it. No problems 5 years later and only cost $50.

[@carloslizarde8221]

Why not the last one ?

[@jayciejaybee7872]

@@carloslizarde8221 It's been a while, but I believe you need to keep one wafer in there to keep the key from falling out when your driving, etc. The other wafers are just for added security, but one needs to remain to keep the key in the ignition when it's supposed to be.

[@higherlunacy]

I'm going to Google this question as well, but I want to ask if it is possible to not use wafers or remove some just so that ANY key will make the switch turn. Shouldn't be a security issue since the car will only start with the programmed key, right? Right?? :'-(

[@clksupplies]

Correct

[@higherlunacy]

Thank you!@@clksupplies

[@labattsipa]

i have a 2004 oddy,, just failed for the first time.

[@pouncerminned863]

Which side is axis A and axis B? Laos, is that last whole wafer always a 1? if so, why does the kit have 1-4 solid wafers? Im confused on the positions of the chambers here

[@pouncerminned863]

I figured it out

[@longonthomas]

If you remove all the wafers will the ignition still work? If you don’t care about the security aspect.

[@clksupplies]

Yes as long as the transponder is programmed

[@longonthomas]

I don’t have to change the key or the code. Just going to remove the pesky wafers. Will doing the same thing to my driver’s door. My element is 20 years old with 300,000 on it. Love that car despite it’s faults. Thx so much for your advice. T.

[@longonthomas]

thx so much

[@rcarioca]

don't know why your pins are so hard to remove. The springs usually pop the pins out without trying

[@deanstreet8319]

Thanks for all the info!#lockboss

[@Leftyslife]

I have a part that goes on the hammer help me no clue how

[@jeffkovene4420]

Do you sell a complete kit for 2005 Honda CR-V???

[@AiMR]

Hey, for an older car couldn't you just remove all the wafers and put it back together? Yes, you could start it with any screwdriver, but who would know 😉

[@AiMR]

Actually, the chip is what's important, right? As long as the bitting problem has been addressed.

[@clksupplies]

Technically correct

[@blazeboyblazeboy4470]

U can do it to honda one too. I did. I removed all the tumblers.. Car still. Needs the transponder key so.

[@keithhaynie7950]

Pull a lock and cut a key by code.

[@Subfightr]

Couldn't I just take all the wafers out and not have to worry about it? In theory the vehicle couldn't go anywhere anyway unless someone had a properly coded key right?

[@menuly]

The key could fall out and the steering would lock which wouldn't be good.

[@user-we2pr5lm7q]

If I take all the wafers out will it work with original key?

[@clksupplies]

In that case all keys would turn it -PJ

[@user-we2pr5lm7q]

@@clksupplies would it not need the key with immobiliser chip

[@markwells8631]

​@user-we2pr5lm7q you must have the transponder inorder to disable the secuiy system. From what I understand the transponder needs to be nearby, hanging the old key on the same keychain should work. You can move the old transponder to the new key so you can trash the old key, thus not have two keys. My 2013 Civic Si, bought used with 203,000 miles nine months ago, the transponder is in the key fob. The key fob has come apart and the key is so wobbly it's hard to turn the key. I'm going to have to purchase a new fob and have a new key made as the old key is rather worn, like described in this video. The key still works except it has become difficult to turn past the first position, accessory position, to lock position, off so I can't remove the key from the ignition switch. This started after the car was in the body shop for two months due to an accident, not my fault, lol. Looks like I'm going to have to replace the wafers, as shown in this video. The shop cracked my windshield, they wouldn't own up to it, I know it wasn't like that when I dropped it off. Insurance covered it to be replaced. Point is I don't trust just anybody to work on my car. It's hard to find an honest and trustworthy mechanic nowadays. Sad but true. Thank you for this video pj.

[@joras7457]

Steering wheel is locked ignition won’t go back in

[@dougchatman9220]

Just take the lock cylinder out by pulling the roll pins take the lock cylinder out pull the Fing wafers and tiny springs out put back together. Slapper all back together and never have this problem again. The transponder in the key is the trick to getting it to start anyway so why f with the stupid never ending failing wafers and the key that is constantly wearing.And yes The stearing wheel still locks when you turn it off and pull the key.You can take your key out while its running too which is very convient at times. I put one full rap of black electric tape at the end of the cuts on the key so that the key doesnt fall out of the lock easily. Just did this today and it works like a champ. Sorry locksmith's but this nightmare is BS AND I FOUND THE CURE. Save yourself a tow and 200 bucks buying new keys blah blah

[@pouncerminned863]

This is stupid, if you don’t have wafers in, the key can fall out and steering could lock on you while driving

[@dougchatman9220]

@@pouncerminned863 You are incorrect

[@Pinetree282]

I did something similar with the door lock that eventually would not lock or unlock. Inadvertently. Took it apart, wafers and springs everywhere. Eventually I reassembled with ZERO wafers (& think no springs). True ANY key will unlock my driver’s side door, but who would know that. Plus it’s so fun when I lock my keys in the car and ask a friend to borrow their keys to open it! Magic, I tell them. Lol.

[@scotts4125]

I'm an automotive locksmith an no hate here at all. As you correctly stated the security is in the transponder. To the guy that said the wheel will lock up while driving. You are 100% wrong. The cylinder won't turn all the back if it's not in park. How could having a working key in the lock vs having a key with no wafers in the lock make any difference? Honda locks are horrible compared to all other makes. Even Kia's and Hyundai's don't have these worn wafer issues.

[@mikevandevoort1098]

did that several years ago with the Ridgeline, you can turn and start with a popsicle stick as long as you have the transponder, Wife's RDX lock shot craps yesterday,,, will probably do the same thing, and the RDX was just worked on a few years ago for the same problem,

[@keyworxautolock8235]

I have found ASP wafers work good but their replacement lock cylinder that you are using has too much clearance between the plug and the outer housing, very sloppy. If you have an original cylinder assembly you will find a code inked on the body which is very helpful in originating a fresh key when the existing key is worn out.

[@clksupplies]

Interesting, thanks for sharing-PJ

[@buz375]

But it's still a Honda

[@chaseaustin6898]

Good day sir, I am having issues in my 05 accord. Can you take a look at my KZbin channel video tell me what you think It would be much appreciated

[@OscarHernandez-rj1dl]

Job security buddy lol jk

[@clksupplies]

haha -PJ