Honda Integra TYPE R vs TYPE S Explained

After much debate in the comments section on various videos of mine, I've decided to clarify the differences between the JDM Integra Type S and the USDM RSX Type S (that was causing all the confusion) as well as all the other Integra/RSX models from around the world.
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[Chapters]
0:00 Intro
0:31 History
1:04 Pre-Facelift Models
2:26 Post-Facelift Models
3:18 Integra's I've Owned
3:25 NZDM Type R vs JDM Type R
4:10 Outro

[@EricV206]

It’s so frustrating when those people truly think they’re right lol

[@KiwiCarLife]

I don't mind too much haha but sometimes I feel like some people think their country is the only country in the whole world haha

[@yaboyg2049]

Thank goodness for this video, now i can show people without having to explain myself

[@KiwiCarLife]

Haha good to hear

[@GoogleUser-yj1wy]

Not a good video though, the type r dc5 is comfortable to daily drive and the recaro seats are comfortable, I owned one for the past 5 years and still have it

[@RSXTYPES2023]

Doesn't mean it's accurate clown

[@NielVTEC]

This video is great! The time and effort you put in to this just to explain to people what the difference are is pretty respectable and appreciated

[@KiwiCarLife]

Why thank you!

[@gregneilsen2967]

Thanks for clarifying all of these Integras and engines. It is all confusing and you have sorted it. Cheers

[@KiwiCarLife]

You're welcome - glad I could help

[@emilyh5876]

Thanks for the video, well done. I have the 06 Type S now; As a fan boy, I wanted the Type R. Thanks to your video. I no longer mind or want the R. The ride quality in the S is really good, has all the comfort I cared about, and already offers too much performance for the public road. Sometimes you need a good 3rd opinion to appreciate what you have.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah looking back a type s would have been the perfect car for me... surprisingly though, Type R's are much more readily accessible in NZ

[@christopherjohnston6343]

I had a DC2r. Sold after 4 months. It was cool - but it was very uncomfortable as my daily driver. It also felt Like i was playing with cheat codes on chasing other cars on public roads. Needed No skill, just too quick for 99% of kids driving around the hills.

[@peacemaker0071]

Bro awesome and straight to the point!! Been trying to tell some ignorant folks who things other wise

[@KiwiCarLife]

Pleased to hear!

[@carlosgj1308]

I live in Australia and I own a white dc5 type S K20Z1 with type r spoiler and mugen suspension and a black enkei rpf1.I really love it and the leather seats are so comfortable.its my weekend car 😃I’ll never get rid of it 👌🏼

[@KiwiCarLife]

Very nice! Sounds like you've got similar mods to how mine was when I got it!

[@milkaysaharun4736]

I live in Melbourne, Australia and I've got a white 2002 dc5 type S. It's a beautiful car. Interior and exterior. 👌🏾

[@aye_jannyboy1642]

This really had me confused. Thanks to your video its basic now thanks bro : )

[@KiwiCarLife]

Great to hear!

[@Unibeamm]

Thanks bro, love your content. Keep up the amazing work and don't sell the DC5! If you do replace it with an FN2!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Hmmmmmmm

[@goldengibus6300]

Thanks for this video man

[@KiwiCarLife]

You're welcome!

[@PioneeringPhilosophy]

ACURA RSX TYPE S ❤️

[@KiwiCarLife]

Good car!

[@YakuzaCruiser]

Great video

[@KiwiCarLife]

Cheers mate

[@MrrNacho]

I have 1 car and 1 car only, i daily drive it to work and everywhere else i need to go n i love it i enjoy it everytime. Im the kind of person who thinks cars are to be driven and enjoyed even if its the most rare car in the world, life is way too short and unexpected n i try enjoy it fully the best i can. Oh n the car is a civic FD2 Type R Great content btw your channel showed up on my recommended n i was surprised it was a kiwi channel, i also had a dc5 type r supercharged before and use to daily drive it as well

[@KiwiCarLife]

Nice! Love those FD2's. Yeah I enjoyed my DC5 for sure, but I found my only requirements for a car was a manual box, comfortable ride, and cruise control. And the Accord had all those things

[@Arkay777]

I've recently bought a facelift DC5 Type-S, and drive it to work everyday with no issues at all! I find the ride very comfortable! Each to their own though I suppose, awesome video dude!

[@jacobbarrett7307]

Thanks for the info I wouldn't mind the z1 with 210hp. I only recently learned that my type s accord Has different engine to the base version, I thought it was just cosmetic changes and different seats.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah slightly different, got about 10hp more

[@thebeardieguy7108]

I see alot of folks here in the US that will rebadge their RSX to Honda Integra Type Rs and i wonder why? Its an Acura RSX here. Embrace the fact that you have an Acura RSX Type S and enjoy it! Their great cars and i do daily mine lol she is alittle shaky but after FF Type 2 coilovers, extended ball joints and a good alignment shes a smooth ride!!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Nice, most do it because they want that JDM vibe

[@tyscl9516]

Well some places measure fuel octane different. Even though it may be a "higher" number for New Zealand and Japan, the 98 found there can be found as 91 in the USA. Places besides the States use Research Octane Number (RON). USA only uses Anti-Knock Index (AKI). For reference, 97 in Europe is pretty much 91 in USA.

[@KiwiCarLife]

I see...

[@Nerdburger85]

The builder at the Honda factory in America said they have less hp than cars in Australia because of the fuel, so it’s not some weird conversation, America just less Ron

[@projecthotgarbage6480]

Awesome man… type S for life

[@KiwiCarLife]

Cheers

[@Miggy2j]

Great video but I would add that USA full rating system is slightly different to us in Australia/NZ a USA 91Ron fuel would equal a 95ron for us.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yes that's true

[@Mr4R13L]

i have a DC5 Type S , and i love it

[@KiwiCarLife]

Nice

[@user-ji2bg2br9e]

I love this

[@KiwiCarLife]

Good to hear!

[@marqus23]

I love driving my db8 type r every day to work haha

[@KiwiCarLife]

That's awesome! You must be more tolerant than me haha

[@zxz8356]

I've got a type S and a super nice daily and a true head turner

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah man they're great looking cars - I do miss the Type R and Type S I had back in the day

[@warhammer3735]

@kiwicarlife If I buy your Dc5 type r on fb can you put the Xracing exhaust back on ?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Sorry man it's already sold

[@napalmman8292]

Just like my friend said, “Imagine after working you going home exhausted and then you’re driving a Type R going through heavy traffic.”

[@KiwiCarLife]

Not pleasant

[@TheKasli]

Does the "Oceania" Type R/S have the steel B-pillar support bar or the aluminum. Same question goes for the front and rear crash bars, and the front LCA, steel or aluminum? How do the sway bar sizes compare from the Oceania type R/S to the JDM type R ?

[@KiwiCarLife]

No idea man haha that's far beyond my knowledge. Given my type r had steel for all the parts you mentioned, I don't believe any would have had aluminum

[@jermainegreensword1020]

As usual great content... Only Americans with their rsx think like that... Cause as I told you I have jdm type S and it has everything except the sun roof.. Oh it also comes with abs...

[@KiwiCarLife]

Cheers for that and yeah mainly just seems to be confused Americans commenting but that's all good.

[@richardhibert260]

Could someone please explain why the Aus, facelift Type S models were advertised and specced as 154kw instead of the 157 in the video and 160 on the engine wikipedia page?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Probably people converting from horsepower and getting confused between ps and hp

[@AdamLeask]

We now have 100 octane in Invercargill. Now just need a highly-strung car to take advantage of it!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Wow that's cool! Wonder if we'll get it up here someday

[@akatarawaspeedstars681]

Wish we had that in welly

[@shanemccoy6635]

4:00 minutes on is gold…

[@KiwiCarLife]

Hah

[@GoogleUser-yj1wy]

Iv owned a dc5 type r 5 years now, my recaro sear are comfortable and i daily drove it for 3 years, i never had an issue with the car being uncomfortable to drive as a daily at all, it was standard shocks and lowering springs, i found it very practical to drive as a daily as it is comfortable and not hard on fuel and plenty of space in the car I now am keeping it in a heated garage and take it out 2 to 3 days a month as i intend to keep this car for many years and dont want it to rust away

[@KiwiCarLife]

Fair enough. I hated living with mine haha. Still suffering with back problems today. Very much depends on height. Awesome cars to drive occasionally though

[@tommy.ayefam]

I’m guessing the jdm dc5 type r came with an lsd transmission? Because the rsx type s never did

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yep it does

[@TheShamiester]

Ahhh so Japan type S is base intergra when facelifted. Good to know. Thanks

[@KiwiCarLife]

Correct

[@jaydenalexander6285]

Do you think it's worth cheaping out for the type S or saving up for the type R?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Up to you... type r is probably twice the price so it depends whether you think its worth the extra

[@danleonhart1]

Yeah I once argued with someone here that kept insisting I have an RSX. When in fact my DC5 is right hand drive imported from Japan. Though not the most powerful.. My JDM 2006 Type-S is a fun sports car and gets the job done as my daily driver

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yes I get comments in a similar vane almost every day it seems

[@Kawaii_Life.]

I'm sure a good quality coilover kit like HKS or KW Suspension coilover kit will help with the ride quality. You can adjust your dampeners for the track, and then turn it back full-soft for street driving.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Highly doubt it man haha - stock suspension is always softer than a coilover setup. And DC5's don't take well to lowering. They have bad bumpsteer issues.

[@Kawaii_Life.]

@@KiwiCarLife If you have the time, I'd recommend watching MotoIQ and their fix for the common bumpsteer issue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaSUfqineMuDjrM Mike Kojima talks about how to correct some of these issues. Not the same car, but the design is similar.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@Kawaii_Life. Yeah can do, but I don't have the car anymore fyi

[@Kawaii_Life.]

@@KiwiCarLife Got it. Looks like I gotta subscribe and watch the rest of your videos. I'll be leaving another comment in the future.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@Kawaii_Life. Cheers!

[@Mercury888]

why didnt you mention that the type s did not come with an LSD and the type r did in Australia/Oceania?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Must've forgotten to

[@Myrtlebeachskyline]

I have an 06 Type-S with the Type-R body kit, wing, type-r motor, trans, and LSD. It’s as close to a type-r I could get without importing a rhd to the USA.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Nice man! That's cool

[@highthai7]

Interesting. I didn't know the Japan type S had the k20a3.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Ya learn something every day! Take it you're from the US?

[@highthai7]

@@KiwiCarLife yes. I was also considering adding the jdm "TYPE S" badge to the passenger rear of my US 05 type S. I'm deciding against it now because I would feel funny about representing a car with a downgraded engine. So thanks for saving me $50+ dollars!

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@highthai7 true but the NZ and Australia models came with the K20Z1 so its not all bad

[@highthai7]

@@KiwiCarLife Good point. I just looked up the NZ type S. Super Clean especially the all white version. I see they came with the side markers too.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yep - basically a left hand drive NZDM type s

[@GooGz]

I want to know what car came with a base K20a and a Rbc-1 Cylinder head. I have a Eco k20a that I've disassembled, the rbc-1 Cylinder head has castings for Lmas on both the intake and exhaust of the head. But it came from factory with No Lmas and junk rockers and cams with single and dual lobes( not true VTEC). I've been told it's the same casting as the Rbc-2 cylinder head that comes on the 06-11 Civic Si. It even had a °50vtc gear on it. Very confusing engine.

[@KiwiCarLife]

K20a3 I think? Not really sure what you’re on about sorry

[@GooGz]

@@KiwiCarLife Jdm engines are stamped k20a. There is no K20a3 in Japan ..... So to tell the difference between the base model and type r engines you have to look at the cylinder head. This base model K20a came with a Rbc-1 cylinder head. Sorry thought you might have had some info I was looking for.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@GooGz they are stamped with the correct number. Carjam GNY862 you’ll see the engine number is K20A3-172551 My guess is your engine has had a K20Z1 or K20A2 head put on the K20A3

[@GooGz]

@@KiwiCarLife I went to that website and it says K20a-3172551 not k20a3. The k20a2 and k20z1 Cylinder heads are Stamped Prb, not RBC. Let's just say someone did swap the head on this motor that came from a Jdm importer. Then why would they put a base model rocker assembly and Camshafts into the VTEC cylinder head ? I disassembled this motor and all looked to be like factory Honda bond, doesn't look like the motor was ever opened. Even an OEM head gasket.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@GooGz yeah it’s marked wrong but the serial number is only 6 digits. It’s definitely a K20A3

[@aqpforever21]

If you search k20a3 in Wikipedia it says this engine has 200 HP and you said it only has 160hp. Im confused. I wanna buy a type S with the k20a3 but 160hp is too low...

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah I noticed that too - someone's changed it to the wrong number sometime recently. Definitely should be 160hp. 200hp is the K20A2

[@lesterchan1872]

Fun fact: Type R’s wheel is ET60 while Type S’s is ET45, I bought myself a set of Type R wheels for my Canadian spec Type S, and the fitment is even worse and need to add spacers😅 So there must be a difference on suspension between Type R and others.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yes correct, no idea why they're different tbh

[@gavincrispin1436]

@@KiwiCarLife and 18 mm ball joints,found that out the hard way.

[@kotarojujo2737]

so facelift oceania type s are more close to us spec rsx type s

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yes

[@levi5073]

Why are the seats so uncomfortable then? I'm picking one up soon and it's a 4 hour drive!!! lol

[@KiwiCarLife]

Ach it'll be fine for a 4 hour drive. For some people they reckon they're really comfortable, just for my body type I found that I was always having lower back pain. As soon as I sold the car and got an Accord, I haven't had any back pain since.

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

I don't think fuel rating was the reason the Type R wasn't sold abroad. Also we have 99 octant in UK

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah if I'm honest I only got that idea from a colleague of mine at Honda, but I'm sure it would have been a factor

[@jermainegreensword1020]

@@KiwiCarLife ya... I know that the type r like the skyline were banned cars....cant remember the reason why but I read it... Think it have to do with the amount of Cc and displacement...

[@kibawhitefang7176]

@@KiwiCarLife I believe I know more of the reasons.

[@VietRider]

You from welly bro? We should meet up some time I have an itr!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah I am, could be keen to film a dc5 vs cl9 vid... Hit me up on insta @kiwicarlife.yt if you're keen

[@schizofennec]

Actually thats not true, americas octane is yes 93 for premium but when converted into oceanic RON its closer to 100 RON in NZ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah apologies, a few people have pointed that out already. Wasn't aware of the different ratingd

[@harris4778]

Do you find much differences in terms of driving comfort between the Type-S and Type-R?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Completely different. The Type R is like falling down a flight of stairs and the seats gave my back ache. The Type S is very comfortable.

[@markallenbarrameda403]

the intake manifold of dc5 type r?

[@KiwiCarLife]

RBC

[@pedroc9852]

I drive an automatic base 😢 I wish I could daily a type r

[@KiwiCarLife]

They’re awesome man

[@djjulz23]

So if I swap a k20a into my 03 Type S would it now be considered Type R? Asking for for a friend

[@KiwiCarLife]

Almost, at the end of the video I mention the other differences like brembos and recaros

[@mgrassoo5082]

Type r has different suspension set up I believe

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@mgrassoo5082 yes it does too

[@Miller_Lite]

Why didn’t you go with a K24?

[@kobet7341]

Something important to note is that America measures octane differently from the rest of the world, so Americas 93 is about 99 everywhere else

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah true

[@pedroc9852]

Wait so im not supposed to put 93 in my k20a3

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah 93 but not like 98

[@obama7246]

My head hurts and I’m only a minute and a half in…

[@KiwiCarLife]

Why?

[@rubenlay610]

Is the nzdm type s quite rare. I can't find any for sale.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah man there was only ever 14 sold which explains why I guess haha

[@rubenlay610]

@@KiwiCarLife ah. I was thinking it could be a good upgrade from my 2001 vti but I guess not.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@rubenlay610 certainly a good upgrade, but they just don't really exist unfortunately

[@rubenlay610]

@@KiwiCarLife yeah. I might have to save up for a jdm type r.

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@rubenlay610 get an accord euro manual. Much cheaper, more modification potential. ITR is strut suspension, accord is double wishbone, accord is more practical and k24 makes big power with headers, reflash and an intake

[@trapsoulx]

so the base model in japan is called type S?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yep

[@sdi1111]

I'm somewhat surprised at your comments regarding the Type R. I have the 1999 Integra Type R with DC2 motor and have owned it since new (23 years). It is the best car I've ever owned - from a new1971 XY GT Falcon to a Mitsubishi Cordia turbo (a really shit car) - it leaves them all for dead! I'm about to clock 320,000Kms and have never touched the motor, except of course for 2 timing belts, 3 distributors and a couple of clutches - less than $10,000 over 23 years!The car seems to perform better every day and even though it's not as quick as most turbo cars, it still retains a lot more character. This car is a masterpiece in the era of naturally aspirated engines. In the many dozens of KZbin clips of this car, you are the first to criticise it. The comfort and performance is perfect, so I can't agree with your comments. Furthermore, this car is now skyrocketing in price, but I simply can't part with it - it has given me great pleasure for 23 years and probably many more years to come!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Great car, just not for me. Too uncomfortable and impractical. My new accord is soooo much better for my purposes

[@Smokeblast1]

I have a rsx type s with a type r swap

[@KiwiCarLife]

Very cool!

[@Jesus-bn6rl]

Wich one has more hp

[@KiwiCarLife]

I explained this in the video

[@akatarawaspeedstars681]

Leshgo aussie and nz

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeahhh boi

[@johnnyd4200]

I will drive ur type r integra. I wish i could move to Japan from usa an be a plumber. What a beautiful country an awesome engineered cars

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yeah they're nice

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

93 in us is equivalent to our 98. Different rating system

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yes very true my apologies

[@user-tv6dl9dg9e]

So they all can name is dc5?

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yep every one because they all have variants of the K20 - usually the chassis codes only differ if they have say D16, B16 and B18 engine options (like the DC2)

[@user-tv6dl9dg9e]

@@KiwiCarLife Thank you so much

[@boomerphysics778]

NZ rep!!

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yuurs

[@Scott_Mericle]

Annnnnd some of this information is wrong. The facelift happened for 05-06 models. Also, the ITR started production in 01 in Japan. Europe DID get the DC5 ITR. I have bought parts from dealers and scrap yards over there. Also some of this information is opinionated. If you don't like the seats or suspension, thats fine. But I would advise not telling people that dailying an ITR will make them hate it. That's just not true. You just don't like it... and that's okay as well. And I love those Recaros. They are very comfy to me. Yet again, another comparison video that just doesn't get it. :(

[@KiwiCarLife]

AAAAAAAND once again someone from a different market is just trying to tell everyone that their country is the only country on earth. I can only speak for what we get here in New Zealand (which is NZDM cars and JDM imports). The first lot of facelift cars were built in late 2004 in Japan, so some of the facelift imports we get here are 04's. I said in the video production began in 2001 so not sure what the issue there is. The DC5 was not sold as a UKDM car in Europe, the cars you're seeing at scrap yards are JDM imports. The video was only speaking to places where it was sold new. Finally, I owned a Type R and found the seats deeply uncomfortable to the point where it gave me lower back problems. Just because you have a different opinion does not mean I am wrong and am not entitled to an opinion.

[@Scott_Mericle]

@@KiwiCarLife Sorry dude but your video is inaccurate in multiple areas. And how the heck do you know where I live anyways? And if you are just gonna talk about your knowledge from New Zealand, are you not contradicting yourself as ONE CAR MARKET that thinks they are right as well?? The DC5 WAS sold in Europe. Go look at Tegiwa Motorsports; a UK motorsports website! They sell the parts for them! I have a MOMO steering wheel from one of their UK cars. And obviously.... you have some emotional things going on here because I SAID it was okay twice if you had a differing opinion. So don't go off on me like I'm not allowing you to have a difference of opinion. What I'm on you about, is that you are stating your opinion as a matter of fact. In an unofficial..... and an inaccurate review for that matter, you can't do that. This is why there is so much misinformation out there about cars; people talking with the opinions as matter of fact, rather than phrasing things so people can understand the difference of opinion VS fact. I mean for F's sake... I daily a "bone jarring" DC5 myself... and I'm fine with it and I DON'T hate it. You said I WOULD hate it. Do you understand what I mean? So if you can only speak for what you get in NZ... don't speak for the rest of the world. Your video is not correct in multiple areas and I know it isn't, otherwise I wouldn't have taken the time to comment or reply to your comment after mine. And finally... you left out a TON of stuff that could have been used for more examples of how the cars differ. I did like how you pointed out that the Aussie region didn't get Brembo's. Not a lot of people know that. But this video needs an overhaul and you could include a lot more dude. I'm not trying to be an elitist cock-sucker here. Maybe I coulda come off nicer. But I'm just telling you straight... some of this information is wrong. Correct it, and you're good to go. **shrugs**

[@KiwiCarLife]

@@Scott_Mericle I'm sorry mate, you clearly didn't watch the video. At the end I very clearly state the differences between the AUDM, NZDM and USDM Type R's (and Acura RSX Type S) vs the JDM Type R and one of the things I clearly mentioned was the Brembos. Watch the video again before you make stuff up pretending I omitted information. I was merely sharing my experience with the car. I loved everything about it as a weekend car, but I needed it as a daily and it gave me back problems. That is a "testimony" not a fact. And again, the DC5 was not sold new in the UK. Just because people stock parts for it over there does not mean the car was sold new. There are plenty of outlets that stock parts for the Accord Euro R over here too. But was that sold new in NZ? No. Same situation over there. They are all imports. The only thing you can come back at me about is my opinion about the seats. All other information I have debunked. Just Google it and you will see. I work for Honda, I've owned about 15 of them so don't argue with me about the facts. Opinions sure, facts no.

[@Scott_Mericle]

@@KiwiCarLife Kay, your video is wrong. Not gonna argue anymore.

[@KiwiCarLife]

Where is it wrong, you said production started in 01, I said that, you said the facelift came out in 05, when it plainly didn't (at least in Japan), you said I didn't mention that the non JDM Type R's didn't have brembo's, when I plainly did, you said the DC5 has to have been sold new in Europe because some aftermarket parts stores sell parts for it, when it plainly wasn't. I cannot fathom how my video is wrong. You're just triggered because I said not to buy a DC5 Type R as a daily. That is an opinion based on experience, not a fact and if you disagree that is fine. But I am allowed to say what I want about a car. Go ahead and put in the effort and make your own video that is "correct" rather than making petty comments demonstrating your incompetence to the world.

[@zhemin]

I think more importantly type r had lsd and type s didn’t. Which is probably the biggest difference

[@KiwiCarLife]

Ehh lsd is overrated

[@oscarkabowski8413]

Aussie spec DC5 Type - S is best DC5 Type - S. 👌

[@KiwiCarLife]

Depends what you're after...

[@tylanbakardi2750]

I live in America in Ohio my gas station has 101 and 111 octane + 93 + 97 just letting you know there is higher octane than what you claim LOL

[@KiwiCarLife]

Thanks for letting me know

[@leescott242]

I have a “special edition” whats that hahah

[@KiwiCarLife]

Good question not too sure tbh

[@nikhilsatay2852]

LEDGEND!!

[@KiwiCarLife]

yuuurs

[@stevencastillo8742]

So there was a Type R that didn’t come with the type r k20a engine but instead a k20a2 😂😂 honda is confusing

[@KiwiCarLife]

Yep

[@kylruby3390]

2 sum it up we will never get a type r 😏

[@KiwiCarLife]

Depends where you live i guess