Honda S2000 vs. Subaru BRZ Track Battle! [POV @ Pocono Raceway]

The Honda S2000 vs Subaru BRZ is basically a classic matchup at this point with how similar the cars are! This is by far my best track battle yet as the driver was really good! My lap timer wasn't working at the time but we were probably running around 1:44s here.
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BRZ mod list:
- full catless exhaust
- uel tomei header
- blitz intake
- tuned on e85 @ ~200whp, naturally aspirated
- rasty gt 1560mm wing
- verus engineering composite splitter 4" splitter
- 18x9.5+38 konig freeform on kumho v730, 255/35 square
- tein mono racing coilovers 8k/8k
- track alignment
- jackson racing oil cooler
- oem 4.3 final drive
- counterspace garage c1 brake pads front and c11 pads rear
- motul rbf 660 brake fluid
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[@dennisdaugherty7009]

I saw you there along the fence, I was going to say hello but didn't want to bother you. I was at my first track night in my Grey Challenger, your videos definitely teach me a lot!

[@dadhats]

that's awesome glad you came out! feel free to come say hi next time 🤙

[@picciofragolo5685]

Its kinda sick seeing that nugget of a 500 Abarth on track, those lil 140 ponies that tirbo engine is pushing were almost keeping up with the BRZ. Great driving as usual🤙🏻

[@TGT_86]

Depends which version the Abarth was since some variants come with 180ish HP as stock

[@dadhats]

thanks! they're decently quick tbh. turbo + low weight is a pretty good combo

[@picciofragolo5685]

@@TGT_86 the american version on those years should have 135hp from the 1.4 twinair but with a few mods It could easily do 190hp

[@cookincars]

I'm the one with the fiat in the video! It's all stock other than coilovers, and this was my 1st event with them 🤌

[@VictorMPR]

Video was entertaining as always. These little track battles really do it for me. Super cool! Best of luck out there this year!

[@dadhats]

thanks man! appreciate you watching 👍

[@sikrip]

Nice footage, and info, thanks for sharing.

[@dowroa]

Thanks for a great start to the Memorial Day weekend, Mr. Hats!

[@dadhats]

cheers dude!

[@mojojoji5493]

is what I’ve waited for for so long

[@FlyinGato]

Very nice to see you guys go all out on what used to be my home track

[@dadhats]

nice! pretty sure we've run into each other at Pocono. you had the caged fk8 right? I remember you let my gf and I sit in it like 2/3 years ago, I still have those pictures somewhere 😂

[@rmangel2419]

Your exits look so fast man good racing! The S2k and the BRZ is one of my favorite comparisons, here in California S2k owners get so pressed when you bring up the similarity lol

[@dadhats]

lol appreciate it!!

[@future62]

Man your entry into T1(the fast right from the banking to the infield) is insane, nice work

[@dadhats]

thank you!! honestly rly proud of finding time there since I figured it out myself + haven't seen anyone else try it yet!

[@DylanRF7]

Would love to see a detailed walk around of this, sick car!

[@cookincars]

That's me at 4:08 in the fiat 🤌

[@AndrewNesbitt]

That track looks so fun! I have the full verus aero kit on my BRZ and it drives like it’s on rails, diffuser and splitter felt like they made a lot bigger difference than the wing in many corners

[@grippgoat]

1st gen or 2nd gen?

[@AndrewNesbitt]

1st gen, auto with turbo!

[@dadhats]

that's awesome man I need the verus wing in my life lol

[@PROofHAPPYWHEELS]

Awesome video. I think your wing might be pretty stalled, making it just add drag than downforce 10:45. I had a look at the Result Japan Legal GT Wing and it seems much less aggressive. Might be worth looking at to significantly improve your lap times.

[@dadhats]

thanks! def need a new wing

[@BushidoDriver]

You don't need to have the faster car when you know the track better 😎..... very nice battle!

[@1atinlove]

Bad ass, i think if you stick with your block or upgrade it you will see potential. Things have changed from the early FA20 days

[@Battle_Garage]

Good battle, maybe ill see you out at mega layout this year, you can try to battle my camaro lol

[@morrisdc5814]

as a frs owner im so amazed. great fucking driving. I plan to drift mine. would love to get on a track day w you regardless

[@dadhats]

thank you dude!

[@tamtrily]

That s2000’s color is really nice 👍

[@BrzBoyz831]

If anything you the best driver than the guy in s2000 for sure. Your line and braking was 1 step ahead of him. Also you save him from his mistakes too. If that wasn’t a good driver I don’t know what else 😂

[@whiteunclerukus]

Very close, the brz for sure has better handling characteristics but the power difference is as clear as day. Are you still running the original motor?

[@dadhats]

I'm very happy with the balance of the car! took a lot of tweaking to get it there. and yep 59k on original motor

[@bryanperoni4699]

Which event organizations are you running with?

[@shaolin224]

I thought I was in the s2k for a moment and was waiting for the vtec to kick in😅

[@Apexracingbr]

nice

[@tractioncontroloff9796]

Do wings help these cars that much or just slow them down in the straights? Good video!

[@dadhats]

if you get a wing that is properly tested yes they're worth it!

[@mojojoji5493]

Definitely helps keep the car stable on those fast chicanes, I don’t have a wing and with only mountain togue I notice it’s ever so slightly bouncy without a wing

[@aissazergoun812]

1:34 holy ! could've smacked that wall 2:21 eargasm, do you know what modifications he has done to the exhaust line ?

[@dadhats]

yea that bump rly tried to ruin my day lol. and no idea but it sounds amazing!

[@NickEnglishPhotography1]

Anyone know what exhaust that S2000 is running? Looks like HKS single?

[@Tosirius727]

What were your times? I was at Pocono with track night about about a week or so ago.

[@dadhats]

we were running about 1:45s here I think. I'll have a new video going over my pb soon

[@FULLTHROTTLEAUTO]

For 10k, I'd personally just get a built IAG block with a turbo kit instead of a kswap. Great driving as always. Can't beat a fun back and forth with a similar car.

[@dadhats]

personally I just don't trust Subaru motors, even built ones. track guys tend to find a way to blow em up and they're not cheap to replace like a k series (once it's in anyways lol)

[@onowtf13]

so what is the deal with the Dragy? I got one and couldn't get it to work at the Glen?!

[@dadhats]

it was working the prior session! I closed the app and it was fine afterwards, just didn't have time while on track to figure it out. I will say I had trouble with my other lap timer at Watkins Glen bc it wasn't able to get a signal out there lol

[@seethruhead7119]

what a nice orange V1 Nismo 370z

[@EFLO787]

So, unsure on the front end of the s2k, but has some angle which will cause the front end to lose more grip. Tires are definitely a thing you have going and looks like track knowledge does too. He seemed lost a few times but kudos on him for sending it and MAYOR KUDOS for you for doing very well with someone in front of you and braking where he did, rather when he did. Although, will say that having him behind you did affect how you drove a lil bit but it was still pretty tame. As for suspension, his suspension is by far better than yours. Same thought as “reputable company” works here too. You need a 9 lives wing

[@dadhats]

thank you! I think we were running about 1-2s off pace since we were going at it 😂

[@dfhillzilla]

Do you recall what kind of oil and coolant temps you get up to?

[@dadhats]

I don't have a sensor in the car so I have no idea tbh

[@grippgoat]

What are those cylindrical things on the S2K, hanging off the roll bar where the passenger seat would go?

[@dadhats]

that's a good question I couldn't figure that one out either

[@java090]

Ghetto cup holders? 😂

[@mikey631]

My guess is that they are to hold the tanks for a fire suppression system that isn't fully installed yet.

[@grippgoat]

@@mikey631 yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind. Either that or something to do with a cool suit.

[@JoshuaKelsey-di5cv]

Wait he isn’t running harnesses in his car to run track days like this?? Not sure on the rules for it and everything. 2013 BRZ here

[@dadhats]

no harnesses aren't required for track days assuming you have the stock seat and seatbelt

[@JoshuaKelsey-di5cv]

@@dadhats oh okk sweet! Thanks for the reply

[@devonthurston1152]

The brz’s flat undercarriage has better aero than the s2000’s very open undercarriage

[@butWhyDad]

Is it supposed to sound like he is drifting? I thought best and fastest way was to never make the tires skid but I don't drive on track so not sure maybe someone will correct me.

[@vicWcs]

nah skidding is normal because they're keeping it right at the edge before you lose traction

[@auomauom]

s2k driver's first time at this track?

[@dadhats]

could be. he did look kinda lost at t1 and it all sort of looks the same your first few times here

[@nismonotmugen]

What is the wheel hp for a stock BRZ?

[@dadhats]

it's about 170 whp typically

[@cougar86]

Your is not random wing. Is branded Rasty GT wing from Japan

[@dadhats]

yep! I just have no idea how much downforce or drag it makes

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

Get a clutch pack LSD it's kind of pointless to tune the balance/behavior of the car without one.

[@dadhats]

I def do want one! not sure why it would be pointless to tune the car without one tho

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

@@dadhats Because the car has completely different characteristics afterward. You worked hard to have good balance and behavior then you swap the diff and everything is wrong, lap times are slower. Especially if you want to set the LSD aggressively, everything has to be reconsidered even the components themselves. Once the car is setup properly again you can enjoy the massive difference in performance/behavior.

[@yunggunz3000]

wait until you drive a Miata before you say no power!

[@dadhats]

😂😂 fair!

[@sti302man]

You need an FA24DI sir 🫡🫡

[@dadhats]

that would be nuts in my car lol yes pls!

[@rubberrocket7620]

that S2000 with a K24 would walk away even more then..

[@sti302man]

@@rubberrocket7620 but that’s not what’s being discussed here sir!

[@guadalupesalinas4704]

If you are going to k swap it k power makes a kit for it

[@dadhats]

I've been drooling over that kit for like 2 years now lol

[@guadalupesalinas4704]

Yeah I have a k series now just need the brz and the money for the kit

[@reallife4598]

Before you go K “ 2 WORDS “ FLATE 6 … the legacy has one

[@dadhats]

I saw someone on ig going that route! def cool but I think I'd prefer taking extra weight off the nose of the car with the k series

[@_illtal]

Is this a track only car?

[@Mr.SlipperyX]

s2000 driver needs to go back to novice

[@sdlausen1]

Why is the s2000 missing practically every apex? Dudes drive lines are awful. He's losing all momentum. Is it intentional? If not, terrrrrible driver in the s2k imo.

[@kythai3105]

Why u have anime girls in ur car😅?

[@dadhats]

I get this a lot lol the previous owner had a very distinct style and this is one of the few remaining bits 😂