Honda VFR1200X DCT Crosstourer Review. Is this the ideal bike for us? Honda DCT automatic gearbox.

[@Trottsatclevedon]

😉 Congratulations....Really good review of the bike...perhaps the best blog you have done so far... What big beast it is.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Cheers Dave and thanks for your comment, there's a video detailing the additional bits and pieces we've done to customise the bike to our needs - just need to get around to doing it!

[@derkradfahrer2207]

For me, one of the best YT videos about the decision process to get a new motorcycle. As said in the video - the decision is allways unique to the rider and his requirements. All the best and good travel times on this bike.

[@davidallen1213]

I have a 2020 red Highlander DCT ....and I absolutely love it! It also has the rarity factor and often attracts more passing interest when parked up among a row of ubiquitous German adventure bikes. I have just 2 negatives amongst many positives....I wish it had cruise control, which would've been very handy on my recent NC500 trip, and the instruments are a little bit old school in design, although all the information you need is there. However, I can easily live with those two given how much fun I have riding it.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi David, I think you'll like the next video, all about the options, extras and upgrades. Hopefully coming tomorrow.

[@CrossDCT]

I have "MC Cruise" with the slim switch from Australia and this Speed Control works perfect.

[@leoveroude4492]

I was so impressed when the Crosstourer was introduced, as well as the VFR1200 before it. They unfortunately did not make it to Canadian shores. I have an ST1100 in the stable to satisfy my V4 cravings. You bring up very many good points in the video. Thank you for taking the time.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks Leo, the ST is another great example of Honda 'thinking outside the box'. When you take a close look at that engine you start to appreciate what a departure from conventional Japanese motorcycle engine design it really is. Another under appreciate bike, other than by the owners.

[@hartley383]

Great review. I had two CTs over the course of around 7 years. First a manual and later a DCT. It’s a massively underrated bike that sadly Honda never appeared to back. Over its lifetime they never added the little bits and pieces that many riders now expect in this class of bike. I came to the point after 4 years of ownership of my DCT that it was time for a change. If Honda had have given the bike a decent update, not a lot, cruise, better lights, bit of a face lift I’d probably be on my third. I moved over to the dark side and bought a 1250GS. The BMW is a really good bike, but I will concede, I do miss my DCT Crosstourer.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Hartley, you make an excellent point, Honda really had something and they pretty much threw it away. Take a look at the current lineup of most manufacturers and most of them are offering a hybrid of sports tourer and adventure bike that fill the gap left by the Crosstourer.

[@j.bin_genex1927]

that is a gooood point. I ride a xadv and rocket3 .now I looking for a v4 and shaft drive bike and super reliable bike. the old CF1200X need a evolution if honda plan to. as the environment law. may this v4 engine is out😢

[@notocbdc363]

NT1100 DCT??? Apparently same as Africa Twin but touring version

[@TheZanshen]

I have the 2012. Manual and it’s a superb machine. I have had gs and blackbirds and this tops them all .

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Paul, Either you're an early riser or from a different time zone? Thanks for your comments, I agree! I was looking at some of the latest offerings from the big manufacturers and it seems like they are now all offering something in the class the Crosstourer created.

[@TheZanshen]

Hi mate I work shifts .yes the crosstourer is superb

[@Amos1965]

Excellent 👌. I purchased mine ( DCT ) brand new in September 2018. For me it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned and ridden, the bike has now covered 19300 miles. Only thing I don’t like is D mode, I always have it in Sport mode 1 and that gear selection suits my riding style perfectly. The motorcycle is definitely a keeper 👍🏻

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Lone Rider, I'm still trying to get my head around KZbin and just realised replies to comments don't get flagged as 'not responded to' so sorry for just picking up on this. I was the same about D mode, really didn't like it at first but ended up forgetting for a couple of days to change to sport and the 'penny dropped'. I now get what Honda were doing and like the way it creates an almost completely different riding experience to sport. It's great when you just want to chill out. I'm amazed at how high a gear at such low speeds that motor can pull and does it smoothly and effortlessly.

[@Amos1965]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures hi, no need to be sorry at all. KZbin keep updating their App and not for the better, but it is what it is. That V4 power plant in the 1200 crosstourer is just something else, it’s a magnificent piece of Japanese engineering and which we shall never see again put into one of their motorcycles 😢. I’m Preston Lancs based and and spend most of my summer riding in the Yorkshire Dales / North York Moors and the northern Pennines, and on the odd occasion the Lake District. I have a 56 litre top box and two soft bag side panniers for my days out, and I carry all sorts in them from gas and associated equipment for cooking, binoculars, camera equipment, camping gear, and the list goes on. I wouldn’t know if you use Facebook, but there are two groups on there for the H Crosstourer and they are full of handy information, pictures and the like. There are some European guys that post on there that have covered big mileages ranging from 200 to 400 thousand kilometres and some with no issues at all with their crosstourers, it sure is one excellent motorcycle 👌. All the very best to you and your wife on your crosstourer travels.

[@jeffmorganwfo]

I put the mccruise cruise control on my 1200 VFR cross tourer, works phenomenally well.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

I've just taken a look, very tempting but not sure I can justify the cost, especially if I end up having to import from Australia. Looks like a great product though, thanks for the tip.

[@al-azimahmed1188]

Great video and review, I really appreciate your insight and experience. Right now for me it's a toss up between an older cross tourer and new trans alp.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thank you. While they share some similarities they are also quite different. The CT is fairly unique. I think the closest bike to it is the Kawasaki Versys. Think of it as a 'sat upright' 4 cylinder sports tourer.

[@bcuzicancuellar5478]

Great review! I had my 2017 for 5 months and logged @ 15,000 minutes plus miles on her before trading her in for my 2018 GoldenWing DCT, non tour, which was the plan from the beginning. At 5’ 6” short, I didn’t have any problems with weight and used it as my daily driver. Love my GoldenWing and bought a 2010 VFR 1200F DCT, which is a lot of fun, but I miss my CT and hope to get another one within the year. Ride safe…

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Just need the NC750X and Africa Twin and you'll have the 'DCT set'! (although I think I may have missed a few out). The Goldwing and VFR1200F are 2 bikes I'd really like to ride.

[@davetimmerman9066]

Nice video, I am in Canada and saw one of these at a bike show a few years ago, thought it looked a great machine. I did get the vstrom 1000 as when were looking, the Honda wasn't available here! Ride on, be happy, blessings!

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Dave, great to hear from Canada. We were very close to getting the V Strom, I really like how the latest model has captured the look of Suzuki's 1980's trial bikes like the 'ER' as we called them in the UK. I just felt it was too much of a step away from the Honda Blackbird. Keep watching, have you been following the Coast Adventure?

[@ianvalentine2381]

Very good review makes want to get on a bike again! 😊

[@M45KY]

It's funny, Ive been looking for a replacement for my ageing (but much loved!) 99' VFR. I've also gone full circle through other manufacturers and found my way back to Honda. Something about that V4 power plant, mixed with their indestructible reliability just ticks all my boxes. Thanks for the great video.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hugely underrated bike and engine. Got a reputation for being boring, even bikers who never ridden one seem to have that opinion 🤔. Somehow, solid build quality and dependability was turned into a negative? Prepare yourself for the different riding experience that comes with the 'adventure' geometry but your wrists and back will thank you for it! Thanks for the comment 👍 Hope to hear from you again.

[@M45KY]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures Aye... I'm going to have to try one. If it's anything similar to my mates 1050 V- Strom I'll be golden. I'll keep my eye out for a decent example over the winter. Also, for the money you get a huge amount of bike! Anyway, i'm glued to your coast-to-coast vlogs, they're brilliant. Safe and happy riding to you both

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Ah, the V-Strom was on our shortlist and very nearly got one but someone else got there beforehand. I'm sure it would have been just as good but I'm a DCT covert now😁@@M45KY

[@gavfr]

I've just committed to buy a 2015 VFR1200X DCT, I had VFR's (750 and 800's) for 12 years before turning to Triumph Tigers 10 years ago for the more upright riding position, and dislike of the twins and inline 4's that flood the market, I put a deposit on a 2022 Tiger 1200 but after a demo ride cancelled my order, the T plane crank has ruined the triple engine, I wanted a shaft drive adventure bike that wasn't a twin or a Ducati! Despite worries about the weight and fuel consumption and lack of electronics I looked at and bought a Crosstourer! I'd loved to have stayed loyal to the British Triumph, but they need to stop trying to build a GS and just build a good touring adventure bike, 99% of ridden miles won't be off road so don't focus on that 1%

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Gav, I'm with you. We first started looking for a replacement for the Blackbird a couple of years before buying the Crosstourer and took a KTM for a test ride. Esther didn't like the twin. You can't beat a 4 cylinder for smoothness. It's funny how the 4 cylinder heralded the end of the British twin only for it to make a come back back with every manufacturer in recent years! There's pros and cons but we love the Crosstourer, it might be a compromise but it does so many things really well. I'm sure you won't be disappointed with your decision.

[@deighmo]

Thank you. Excellent review and very enjoyable. There's a truth in your vids that shines through.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thank you for your encouraging comments, it really does help to keep us motivated.

[@olegyd]

i have this bike for 4 years. 100 000 km on. one of the best travel mashine. i also have Africa twin for more off road adventure. both have they own flavor.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Oleg, 100,000 kms!!! That's good going, have you clocked all those up yourself?

[@firesail6707]

Your observations are spot-on. I am so happy with one of the rare Crosstourers (2017) in the western US. I'm sure the DCT is outstanding but al least the massive torque reduces shifting compared to many bikes.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Firesail, great to hear from the US! The torque is something else. I've come from a Blackbird, which is a more powerful bike but only if you rev it. In the real world, and perhaps as I get older, I like having that power lower down. Along with the different riding position, it's made me appreciate riding and touring in a different way. It's no less fun, more comfortable and can still be thrown around a bit as well.

[@verlinswarey507]

Man,you’re an articulate guy! First time seeing your channel.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Cheers, really appreciate that. Do you ride?

[@krytonsbeast]

Mine is 2019 in Pearl White, and I love it. Generally tootle around in sport 2. It's comfortable. I don't go tare arsing around at high speed. But live in the North Pennines, on the edge of County Durham & Northumberland, so have great roads on my doorstep. I enjoy it so much. It's perfect for me, after a Suzuki GSX 1100F. I get tendinitis in my wrist after hauling the clutch in after ½ an hour so the DCT for me is a boon. It knows when to change better than I do. 😃 I wanted something different. My mates call it a step through 😂... but it goes like stink! Wow!.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

I was getting the same issues with my wrist and it was making some rides unbearable. We've just returned from your neck of the woods having completed the English east coast. Have you been following our Coast Adventure series? We were in the saddle between 8-12 hours, four days on the trot. After every day we remarked on just how good the bike is - an awesome machine.

[@baltona84]

Brilliant video. Let me say what brought me here: I am after a 3700km+ trip around Europe on my 1998 VFR 800 (without a pillion, but with quite some luggage). And I did all the stuff that you did to your Blackbird - wider and higher bars, extended the windscreen to stupid heights... it still does not cut it in terms of seating comfort, wind protection and performance over less-than-ideal road surfaces, compared to my friends' GSs and a Tracer. Also, the lack of torque at low revs pushes me to stay above 5krpm to make it really go. Most of the hairpins I have to do in 1st gear... I have been trying to convince myself that this is the right bike for me... but I think it is the amazing characteristics and sound of the V4 and the pedigree that keeps me having it. Now... the bike needs some serious maintenance and I am after a more reasonable (and less mischievous) bike and the CT DCT was on my mind for ages. I have read all the comments that are super useful, but I was wondering - what kind of fuel efficiency can you get from this bike on B-road riding and on highways?... And one other question: what bikes were coming through your mind when considering the sports touring (and not adventure touring) segment, after changing from the Blackbird? Isn't the CT a bit 'unexciting'...? Best wishes from Norway (we have some steep hairpins too here, like in your other video :D)

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thank you very much for your kind comments, it's always nice to be appreciated. Let's start with the other bikes I considered. Given the stipulations I said in the review but especially the need for a pillion to be carried effortlessly and in comfort then our shortlist was really quite short - KTM1290 BMW1200/50GS Ducati Multistrada (yes, believe it or not) Africa Twin Suzuki 1000/50 V Strom Kawasaki 1000 Versys Honda Crosstourer Of those, we only test rode the KTM and AT. I loved them both, but there's very few bikes I don't appreciate in some way and just love riding anything. But, they both had an issue identified by my wife who has to sit on the back all day. Too much vibration 😳! In fairness, it was a very valid point. It therefore ruled out 3 of the other bikes on the list (I can't afford the V4 Ducati). We were on the verge of test riding a Versys when we went to see the CT we bought and did the deal without looking any further. I'm sure we would have been impressed by the Versys and others like it, such as the Tracer but what I preferred about the CT was it was more adventure and less touring and that beautiful V4 engine. I think Honda can lay claim to building the most iconic V4 motorcycle engine the world has ever seen and the CT may well be the last bike to use it. The linear power curve is amazing, especially for the weight and roads we use. What's the point of 160+ hp when you have to rev high to access it? It's a proven engine with few (if any) issues and it's not nearly as expensive to maintain as some of the others on the list. As for fuel consumption, I'm not the type to measure it but I guess around 40mpg - I really don't know but it's not bothered me. If I was commuting 30 miles a day to work then it might become an issue. Finally, given what you're thinking of doing I pose this scenario - If I was riding solo but still wanted a degree of comfort and load capacity, was concerned about fuel consumption, could eat the miles up, was mega reliable and could still be fun and bring a smile then I would be considering the unthinkable - The Honda NC750X !!! And, with my experience of DCT I'd probably get that version. Skeptical? Check this out first - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ27lXaIp5KaptU What has become of me? I'll be suggesting a scooter next! All the best with your plans. Let me know if you end up putting any of it on KZbin.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Or the Honda 800 Crossrunner of course...

[@ammarsami3710]

Proudly CT DCT owner , owned yamaha fjr1300 and 1200gs , the CT is my best for the past 20 years of riding, I believe Honda did not add the high tech gadgets such as screen and the riding modes for cost reasons and to simplify the maintenance over all and durability

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

I like the fact they 'kept it simple', especially as far as the screen and riding modes are concerned - I don't feel the need for riding modes and not having a screen has meant I can specify my own and update it when I want. The only thing I would like (but not essential) would be the cruise control. Thanks for your comment, interesting to hear what you've ridden and the Crosstourer comes out on top.

[@firesail6707]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures I look forward to our next comments about a cruise control option (quite expensive). Most of my riding requires throttle adjustment often enough to negate a cruise control's value. I agree, I don't miss the tech items, in favor of reliability.

[@marcjablonski8034]

Thanks for the info , good to meet you guys at the old smithy next time you need to be on your bike M & M

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

It was great meeting you guys too. All the best with choosing the right bike Mark but you might regret not keeping the NC, a massively underrated bike. We will definitely be back in the peaks on a bike soon.

[@thomasandtbacka7398]

Great review, spot on! Love my Crosstourer DCT! Best bike i owend.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Absolutely, massively underrated bike. Out of interest, is is specifically the bike related stuff you've been watching here or are you following the Coast Adventure?

[@thomasandtbacka7398]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures Started watching your travelvlogg after finding your tech videos here. Great stuff!👍

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Thomas, really glad you're getting into the travel vlog as well, that's what we hoped. Those videos take a lot more effort and time but we're hoping they will be appreciated over time. Thanks for your comments and support.

[@SBKPete]

What an interesting video. Really informative 👍🏻 I’m a big fan of their DCT. I’ve just bought another new NC750X with it. Which has the 3rd gen DCT; and the gear changes are imperceptible.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

If I was doing what we're doing on the Crosstourer and it was just me (no pillion) I'd seriously consider the NC750X but I'd want to get a bit more serious off road, so would probably go for the Yamaha T7. The NC is a remarkable bike an uber reliable mile muncher that does ridiculously good mpg. We've been filming another episode today and I still can't get over how good the DCT is. Thanks for your comment and keep watching!

[@richardgiles2484]

Really enjoyed this video, mate 👍

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Cheers Richard, there's another one out today covering the Options, extras and accessories.

[@Grahamvfr]

Bit late coming to this video, but a great and still relevant review it is . Thanks 👍

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks Graham

[@andrewewan624]

Had same bike ONLY sold it as the height and top heavy weight were becoming too much for me as l aged Superb build quality.. fantastic V4 and loved the DCT

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Andrew. There's no getting away from the fact it's heavy although that's also a strength, it feels solid and stable. Have you a replaced it with anything else?

[@andrewewan624]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures Hi...been a HONDA man for nearly 50 years...lol.. 1 cylinder to 6 Now riding a YAMAHA NIKEN... ..superb ..added 28,000 miles in past 2 years ...100% reliability...FRONT end grip fantastic

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

You've got more years riding than me!!! I completely missed your photo! Of course, it's a Niken, another machine that I'm interested in and a great example of how Yamaha also think outside the box. I'd love to ride one. That a keeper, surely?

[@andrewewan624]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures NIKEN.. within a few hundred yards you would feel as if a normal motorcycle THAT front end grip is fantastic.. Chris Moss the road tester had one long term..he loved it It attracts so much attention on the road..99% positive.. A gold wing bagger or ... a CT, DCT.. would be some machine with NIKEN front end...lol Take care

[@nigel274]

I'm 72 and ride a manual VFR1200F. Love it ..build quality and that lovely V4 engine. It's so planted on motorway and fast A roads. Sadly think msy be my last year on it as is very heavy and top heavy as you say. Great on good roads bus not so much in a gravely pot holed car park.

[@damienpeckham2834]

A good video, and your channel is new to me after another search for the Crosstourer. I'm in a similar situation in that I have a Blackbird (5 years in now), and have been seriously considering the 1200X as a suitable replacement as my needs - like yours - would likely need the Blackbird modified into a bike it wasn't designed to be. Thanks for the insight in this video, I'll get looking at the others on your channel.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks Damien, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. In my opinion, you won't regret it if you end up with a CT. All I would say, is that if I didn't need to take a passenger and additional luggage then I probably would have opted for something a bit smaller, perhaps the Crossrunner, Yamaha T7 or (dare I say) an NC750X! Or, if your pockets are a bit deeper the newer offerings like the Suzuki 800DE or Honda's new 750 Transalp. That said, I might still miss the power and presence of the Crosstourer and (IMO) you can't beat a V4! Enjoy the channel.

[@olegyd]

amazing bike! i do have both Africa and CT for long distance CT and the best. end 4 cylinder just wow!

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Oleg, I agree. The V4 motor is amazing. We did 300 miles today in the pouring rain and it didn't miss a beat.

[@sdavey10]

Thank you, it was very thorough, very honest, and lacking in all that journalistic BS that some reviews throw at us. I'll be trying to find one of these next year, my ZZR1200 is a bit too sporty for my ageing, creaking, and clunking body. I do like the power though.......

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks for your comment. Going from a ZZR1200, you will definitely notice a difference in the top end power. The CT is a detuned VFR1200. I can’t recall the exact figures but it takes 160/70ish down to 120ish. BUT it converts the lost bhp into torque. The pulling power is amazing and very smooth, it doesn’t chug like a twin. All the best on your hunt for one.

[@sdavey10]

​@greatbritishbikingadventures Thank you those later DCT models are few and far between. I shall keep looking.

[@sunrisejak2709]

I too wish the VFR1200X were still sold. I bought the new NT1100 which is also a very fine bike but that V4 of the Crosstourer sure looks appealing. Is the gas tank a bit small? On the VFR1200F that was a common complaint. Finally I too am a dedicated DCT convert. Nice review you did! Perhaps I'll find a second hand Crosstourer that in my eyes would be a "keeper".

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Tank is adequate for the UK, to be honest if it were much bigger it would just add to the 'top heaviness'. If you were thinking for long distance over landing then I think there are much better bikes for that. The NT looks like a very capable machine but it's not a V4! I think most people who try it for more than just a test ride are converted to DCT!

[@downanddirty6899]

Good review of an understated bike, somewhat ironic that you dismiss new electronic wizardy like cruise control etc then bang on about the DCT.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hello and thank you. It's been a while since I watched the review but I'm pretty sure I say it was a pity Honda didn't give it cruise control? It was a general comment but perhaps I was a bit dismissive of things like riding modes. I've always ridden bikes without them and never felt the need. But, maybe (like the DCT) if I did I would change my mind. If and when I move on from the CT I'll find out - that might be a while though since I tend to keep my bikes.

[@hulkhogan9450]

Brilliant video and thanks for taking the time to make it. I currently have a k1200s BMW and its a cracking machine but always want a bit nore comfort and two up riding. How is is wind protection and noise as you seem to have a very low screen? Is the pillion side of things comfy?

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

I had a Honda Blackbird before, so probably very similar to your BMW. The improvement in comfort and wind protection is very noticeable. When we first got the CT we were amazed at the difference. Over time, we've noticed some buffeting (as you would) but are still mightily impressed with the amount of wind protection/noise compared with the Blackbird. The screen is adjustable and the highest position is plenty high enough. It's also an aftermarket screen and bigger than the Honda one. Givi do an even bigger screen if you need it. As for comfort, that was also 'chalk & cheese'. Once you get used to the bolt upright seated position you really appreciate the lack of strain on wrists, hands, arms, back etc. We've spent 10 hours a day riding it for 30 days, sometimes with very few short stops, and it's been great. Don't get me wrong, it's no Goldwing but it's still very comfortable. Having the aftermarket seat probably makes a big difference but we wouldn't know because it came with the bike and have never tried the original.

[@guyrose2239]

Nice review and relaxed vibe....thanks

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks Guy

[@PeterHolland-mu7yn]

Hi Jaz well all my mates said about me, if the press say it’s awful - crap - unreliable- etc etc Holland will buy it and tour it we both loved the Ducatis, but we had for 3 years a Buell uylesse XB 1200, I bought it the weekend that Buell went pop 🙄 we loved that bike with a passion and next to the ST4s, the most comfortable fun touring bike. Weird I know 😂 …. Pete 🇫🇷

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Pete, hope you and Sarah are all good? When I was a kid I read all the motorcycle mags and used to lap up all what said about what was best etc. etc. and then I started working as a bike mechanic and got to test ride loads of bikes - what an eye opener!!! I released the media was BS!! I think you can work out what you'll probably like without test riding everything but you need to know what it is YOU want and not what the media tells you. Dare I say, the same can be said about other forms of media, but I'll stop there. Are you slowly going through all our content😁

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Pete, sorry for the tardy reply, working on....videos! Good news is I not only have this week's 'in the can' but next week's is also pretty close to complete. Weather is currently...BRITISH!

[@Skiamakhos]

Just to point out, DCT makes a black box of the transmission - it works according to its programming. If you ride slow manoeuvering type courses like moto-gymkhana, you will likely burn out the clutch, but Honda classes that style of riding as abusive. DCT clutches cost around $3000. They won't replace them under warranty, but you won't know if you're burning it out because there's no clutch slippage indicator on screen, and it's programmed to slip it a lot more than you or I would slip it on a manual bike. My advice is, till it's fixed, leave well alone.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

It's a fair point I hadn't heard before. Presumably, if I avoid the moto-gymkhana I'll be alright?

[@TheDervMan]

I’m keen to hear what you’ve done about cruise? I was torn between the GS Adventure & a CT. I ended up with the GSA as it had cruise control and is very easily home serviced with a GS-911. The complexity of the V4 is beyond my home servicing skills. The whole reliability thing is fascinating. I bought a brand new NC750X DCT in 2018 and within 18 months the gearbox was playing up, my local main dealer (Fowlers) struggled to find the cause but turned out to be the shifter motor. At that point I’d lost confidence and sold it. Touch wood I’ve never had a problem with the BMW’s I’ve owned but it’s just a matter of time before something breaks 😉

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi DervMan, just watched one of your vids and it seems like you're from our neck of the woods. The CT would definitely benefit from proper cruise control. My reliability observations were a generalisation and not based on experience. The GSA was (and still is) a very tempting option but I happen to know someone who works for BMW who was very candid about the product and rides a Yamaha Super Ten!

[@TheDervMan]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures I’m in Bristol. I guess the techs only ever see the faults rather the the bikes that are working well. That’s why the GS911 is such a useful bit of kit dealer level facilities but for the home mechanic. Variation is good, it’s nice seeing people on different makes and models. 👍🏻

[@spookie3000]

Okay, but I'm planning to take lessons (complete novice) and start working towards doing road trips on a bike. And this bike looks perfect for that. If this is not for a novice how do I get there as fast as possible? I'm tall so anything lower than 850mm seat height won't be comfortable. Tips are welcome.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Jelte, thanks for commenting. You say you’re a complete novice planning to take lessons. As the only fact in what you’ve said that has to be the most important thing that directs your next steps. Think about it, everything else you’ve said is either a desire or an assumption. That doesn’t make them unimportant but they should not have the same weight as the fact you’ve never ridden a bike before. You say the CT looks perfect for you but how’d you know? You’ve never ridden one, in fact you’ve never ridden any motorcycle. You say anything lower than 850mm won’t be comfortable but how’d you know? You’ve never ridden a motorcycle before. Unless you’re too short to comfortably touch the ground, seat height is rarely a problem (although seating geometry might be). I genuinely thank you for your honesty but these statements simply demonstrate what you’ve said, you’re a novice. That’s not a problem, it’s great to hear someone wanting to get into motorcycling and hopefully the fact that I’m taking the time to write a detailed response will demonstrate I am genuinely trying to help. My number 1 piece of advice for anyone getting into bikes, whatever their age is as follows - GRADUALLY PROGRESS TO LARGER MORE POWERFUL BIKES. There’s so many advantages to this. Smaller bikes are fun. I’ve had the best times on bikes under 600cc. You can still ‘tour’ on smaller bikes. In fact, it adds an interesting dimension to the adventure. KZbin @RobLittleUK to see a big old man riding 1000’s miles on a vintage Yamaha YB100 or @C90adventures. Okay, they’ve taken my argument to the extreme but modern smaller bikes are surprisingly fast and capable, especially the 400-600cc twins currently on the market. Smaller bikes are cheaper to buy and run. As a novice, your insurance on something a CT is going to be high. Also, if you discover motorcycling is not for you then you’re not going to lose as much in depreciation. No doubt, the Crosstourer is an excellent motorcycle but if my circumstances were different I would probably ride something else. In particular, if most of my riding was without a pillion I would be on a smaller lighter bike, such as a Yamaha 700 Tenere. In 40 years, I’ve had 4 crashes. Thankfully, none of them were serious. The first 3 were when I was a novice and overestimated my abilities. Thankfully, I was riding 125 trail bikes and each time was able to pick myself and the bike up, brush off and ride on. No amount of formal lessons will hone your riding skills as much as a ‘time served apprenticeship’ on smaller bikes. I had an unrestricted full motorcycle licence at 17 years old but I still rode 125’s and 200’s for a while. I didn't progress beyond a 350cc until my 30's when I bought my first new bike, a Yamaha 600cc Thundercat that I still have today. A work colleague once did a direct access course and his first bike was a Honda CBR600 Sport. He nagged me into going for a ride. I didn't want to but eventually gave in. I told him to ride within his limits, drop back if needs be and I'd meet him at the end of each section. We hit the twisties and I dialled it right back. Sure enough, he tried to keep up but couldn't handle it and came off. Thankfully he was unharmed but you couldn't say the same about his brand new bike. He made the number 1 error that I would argue is the reason for every motorcycle crash - He overestimated his capability and under estimated the bike’s capability. I’m sorry if this wasn’t what you wanted to hear but it is and always has been my number 1 piece of advice for anyone getting into bikes, whatever their age. Unfortunately, it's not always well received but I hope you will accept it in the way that it is meant. By the way, the last crash was over 20 years ago, the car driver was 100% at fault and was prosecuted by the police! Thankfully, I wasn’t badly injured. My riding was the biggest factor in ensuring the impact speed was minimal, in fact I very nearly managed to stop as he suddenly U turned in front of me.

[@spookie3000]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures this is exactly what I wanted to hear: well meant honest advice! And I will take it to heart and work my way up carefully! Thanks!!

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Great response! Taken like a true man, well done.

[@richardjones3826]

Oh yeah, just finished watching a review on the HD pan america 1250, what a piece of crap, i had a KTM 1290, couldn,t ride to far as the heat from the under seat exhaust gets really hot and burns your bum, your vlog was just the job, i,m going to test one of these as they,ve been on my radar for awhile, juhaptergee

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

If you do end up buying a Crosstourer let us know how it compares to the KTM. Thanks for the comments 🙂

[@Motourev]

Great bike got 2013 version

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Absolutely, a real shame the V4 motor's been retired.

[@MrRawmans]

Bestest choice 👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thank you😀😀😀😀😀

[@tannenherz]

High, i think about this model too. Kindly Fiete

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

It seems no one regrets buying a Crosstourer but plenty regret selling theirs.

[@johnr5545]

Thanks god bless

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thanks John

[@luisdanielcorderoespinosa1074]

Que pena que ya no se siga produciendo

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Absolutely 💯

[@TheOmniscientAtheist]

That's the best bike review I've ever seen! I've been looking at Moto Guzzi for when I get my full license - because shaft drive adventure bike. I didn't even know Honda did a shaft driver ADV. I love my Varadero 125, but not quick enough really. VFR1200X is top of my list now.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hello and thanks for the compliment 😊. The CT is an underrated gem, IMO. Not sure I'd call it an ADV, it's a real handful off road.

[@shanestewart4905]

On my list for gs1200 replacement. Versys and XR too. What was that dog carrier? Not sure i approve of carrying anything sentient that has no choice or voice.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Im surprised you're the first to mention the dog carrier, They seemed happy enough. I seriously considered the Versys. Never rode one but I expect it's very good two up. In the end it was too road oriented in looks and capability. I know the CT is not much better but for what off road we do it just about does the job. Having owned the bike, it's the DCT that clinches the deal. Transforms all day riding on Britain's varied roads. Don't get me wrong, I love shifting gears on a solo ride when it's all about the ride but the DCT creates a different experience giving a greater appreciation of other elements of the ride. Sorry, going on a bit now. Hope the review was helpful and all the best in making your choice Shane. I don't think you'll be disappointed with any bike on that shortlist.

[@shanestewart4905]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures Thank you for that response, thoughtful and appreciated.

[@colincommander1683]

Hi all love our bikes I have the same bike out here in Queensland Australia 😢 but try as I may I can’t buy a windshield extension for the top of my screen like yours can you tell me we’re I can buy one in the uk how much so my brother can get me one and send it over thanks in advance and stay upright and safe. Col commander. 9-10-23 ps bike is a 2014

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hello Colin, hope you are well? It's been a while since I reviewed the bike and went through all the stuff we've done to it but it all performs as well now as it did then. Everything I go through is listed in the description but the screen extender details are as follows- Windsheild Adapter and Accessory Bar £113 Palmer Products UK directly via website and phone - www.palmerproducts.co.uk/ There are 2 separate ones for the CT. I think one is for the adjustable screen and the other for the fixed screen model. Be careful to order the correct one, the online ordering is not that clear. Great to hear from you.

[@colincommander1683]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures thank you so much for your swift response that will help Stay safe and happy travels. In other words God speed my friends. Col

[@helenatyukodi5227]

What brand is this seat? Thanks!

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Sorry, we don’t know. The previous owner said he had a specialist motorcycle seat company do it.

[@jjbgheheh]

What is that tablet on your bike?

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

You need to check out the options and extras video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaubpImCatV7jbs Full details of everything is in the description to that video.

[@humbertocesar3093]

5 Stars

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Thank you 😊

[@alanlockhart1553]

A lovely video you put together, good camera angles and you will make me take a look at the Crosstourer. I'm your deliberations you did not mention a Golding or Valkyrie, I went for the latter for similar reasons, more comfort and space and luggage capacity. Love it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4PKm6uuls5joKs

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Don't mention Goldwing to Esther, I think that's what she would like! I know I'd absolutely love one but I'm holding out for a bit longer. We also like to do a bit of off road, yes two up! Keep watching for those future adventures. Watched your video and left a comment. I see you also called it an 'adventure'. Have you been following our Coast Adventure? I'm wondering about the full leathers, did you have a sportsbike before?

[@alanlockhart1553]

@@greatbritishbikingadventures still have the sport bike. Don’t wear the Leathers too often. But on this trip I’d taken a colleague out who had a stroke and was severely paralysed down left side. Getting him onto bike was a challenge. So I gave him my normal gear and I wore the leathers, it was a pleasant trip to Drift Cafe outside Edinburgh and fortunately no mishaps but I was nervous to say the least.

[@alexmorgan3435]

Honda is so far behind the competition in terms of tech that it is embarrassing. I too looked at the AT but that still had a 1980s LCD dash with no cruise control nor lean sensitive ABS, no traction control, really really basic. I think Honda fell behind after producing bikes like the VFR800 5th and 6th gens and the Blackbird. They just seemed to lose the Will to carry on producing very bland and boring bikes. However with their new Hornet they seem to have woken up.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

You make a very good point Alex and one that could perhaps be applied to all the Japanese bike manufacturers? You could almost say they have made the same mistake the British bike makers did in their decline by not keeping up with trends and consumer demands. But I think there's still one significant area where the Japanese prevail - reliability. I will now 'take cover' as I am sure not everyone will agree.

[@AC-id6rf]

Unfortunately lots of folk buy their new bikes as they do their mobile phones - comparing on meaningless features such as TFT screen size and electronics. They even pay for their bikes as they would a phone - on a monthly credit plan. I’m on a Ducati Multistrada 1200S. The rider modes I set once and forgot about. I couldn’t care less about traction control or lean sensitive riding aids or hill start assist. You ride it using the hand and foot controls to keep you out of the hedge that’s the fun part. As for max horsepower that too is a marketing number. It only comes in at high revs AND max throttle opening, which is almost never on the road. Think about it. How many seconds are you actually at peak horsepower revs and have the throttle held wide open on a 1200 cc bike. Maybe three full seconds in a whole day of riding? Honda probably have it right with an engine that delivers big torque and power from three to seven grand which is actually where you use it. I’m looking forward to testing this Honda.

[@alexmorgan3435]

@@AC-id6rf But you have a Ducati Multistrada 1200S so presumably you fell for all the bells and whistles and high power output? LoL.

[@AC-id6rf]

@@alexmorgan3435 for me it was the engine. A v-twin derived from the 1098 and then 1198 superbike engine but optimised for the road. I think I described that owners like me don’t use the tech. I’ve ridden the VFR1200F and it has a very exciting engine, with a DAM exhaust it even sounds amazing. I’m looking forward to the VFR1200X version which should be even better on the road with a very flat torque and power curve. I’m looking forward to that engine and the way it makes usable power. It’s funny that you like the new Hornet. I do too, but it’s a parallel twin - the second cheapest engine configuration to make after a single. If you look at the class of 2023 and compare it to the bikes of 2003. You will see that budget 600cc inline 4s from 20 years ago were making more power and weighed considerably less than the current crop of bikes 600cc to 800cc bikes. If you can see past the TFT screens and the cheap electronic tech components you can go and find some of the best engines and motorbikes and ride them now before they are gone forever. The Hornet is cheap but it’s never going to be one of the all time great motorbikes, just another economy parallel twin with a cheap to make TFT screen and ride modes which after a few months of ownership you simply don’t use.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Excellent points.

[@anthonylynn1969]

The hondas frame isn't steel... If you doing factual videos get they correct at least

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Where did I say the frame was steel. Give me the time of the video and I will pin a comment making a correction. Otherwise, get your facts right before posting a comment.

[@paulyflyer8154]

The honda's aluminium frame is a dealbreaker for me.

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Hi Pauly, that's interesting. I've not heard anything about the frame, is there a problem or just prefer the way steel handles?

[@paulyflyer8154]

@Great British Biking Adventures No it's fine for 99.9% of us most of the time but about 20 years ago now on a tour of Argentina my friends CB750 got hit by a pick up whilst parked in a supermarket, snapping one side of the frame. We managed to get it welded because it was steel and continue our trip thank god. I know it's pretty rare but I've also had a pushbike welded when on a camping trip so I'd go for steel or titanium if possible now. I know aluminium and carbon CAN be patched up but really only if you're within the m25!

[@greatbritishbikingadventures]

Fair enough. Touring Argentina sounds interesting.

[@paulyflyer8154]

@Great British Biking Adventures Was a great experience but the thought of doing anything remotely like it now makes me break out in a cold sweat 😓

[@trevorlonewolf6406]

ALL TDR were made and sold to FARMERS hahahah