Honda vtx choke problems,,fouling plugs,,running rich,,(a permanent cure)

[@delbertgenewoods6837]

200 Main Jet ------- 58 Slow Jet ---------- 1 Washer On The Metering Rod - Up One Step) --- And 2 Turns Out On The Pilot Screw -- Choke Is No Buanno ------- And In A Pinch Our Old Friend Duct Tape Saves The Day --------- Thank You Sir Great Video !

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@delbertgenewoods6837 yes the duct tape worked good it helped me eliminate the problem of the throttle slide so I could work on the accelerator pump this bike had problems with fuel petcock/ accelerator pump/ (choke/enrichner) throttle slide .each one of these parts it was vaccuum issue with the vaccuum diaphragms being old rotted cracked split .check intake manifold / carburetor seals tighten as needed

[@delbertgenewoods6837]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 My Slide Was Ok ---- But The Accelerator Pump / Petcock Were Bad ---- Great Bikes ------ All Your Recommendations Were Spot On Choke Issues / Scar Mod Bad Idea / I'm In AZ So I Did The 195/58 It Don't Get Very Cold Here Great Video

[@donaldhare4277]

Very nice video. Information was A+. Such a patient man and that's what it takes.

[@davegibson3763]

Absolutely the most thorough and informative video I've seen on here!

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Thank you sir

[@davegibson3763]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 BTW im in Florida and I understand you just fine!

[@davegibson3763]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 Anyway my VTX is running real rich.The plugs are getting fouled after 10 or 15 miles.The carbon build up is way too early.Im gonna try to kill the choke and see how it goes.Thank you for such a detailed video Verdall!

[@thebrhinocerous]

Nice video...I just bought an '07 VTX 1300C, and it had carbon-coated plugs and wouldn't idle well. I tore apart the carb and cleaned it up, replaced the spark plugs, and it runs well now. But I'm not confident that I fixed the problem of fouled plugs permanently, and I think that you may have pinpointed the issue. I'll have to look into swapping jets and disconnecting the choke in the future. I live in very temperate weather year round (average highs in winter are usually in the upper 50s at the lowest), so the choke really isn't something that should be extremely necessary to start with. Thanks again...saving this vid for future reference.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

When cold. Just give it a few squirts of gas when it crank keep it running till it can idle on its own..about a minuit or so

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Try too use the choke the least you can to keep from fowling the plugs... if you havent used your honda in say a month and it doesent fire right up try giving it 2 / 3 squirts from the throttle and try and start it withought the choke ...every honda 1300 vtx I have modified the choke on has always been a problem since i fixed the choke (it was the problem ) ..now they start right up and run perfect if those of you who have not fixed this problem you can carry some new spark plugs and a plug wrench on you honda this will save you from being broke down and needing a tow over fouling plugs. because of this problem these honda vtx are always for sale cheep when you fix them they are bullet proof and well worth what you paid in my opinion they are the sht

[@thr3ddy]

Just got my 07 1300C, and it runs rich by the looks of the plugs and hefty carbon buildup on the pistons. I just might make this adjustment myself. Thanks for the tip!

[@braddblk]

I suspected the chokes on these bikes were a problem. The day after I bought my 1300 in 04 I set the choke like I always have in three other hondas and by the time I got a 1/2 mile up the road the bike was running rough. I misjudged what was going on and set the choke more, by the time I got to work 3 miles later it was barely running. I called the shop and it was taken to honda where they showed me the badly fouled plugs. Of course, it was my fault completely according to them. For the next couple of years, I didn't use the choke at all even through the winter here in Portland yet the plugs would eventually foul. I replaced the carb for another reason and the problem lessened a lot. I'm going to give this a try, thanks for the video.

[@williamvalle6227]

Did you post the next video? Where you are doing the jet kit? I just got a vtx 1300 planning on rejetting it. Your video was straight to the point.

[@joselandaverde7381]

Thanks for the video my vtx spend a lot gas tomorrow I will try do same

[@thouton3301]

Absolutely fantastic video sir!!! Thank you

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

I'm glad you liked the video it's not studio quality but gets the point across thanks for your reply

[@davepo6443]

Hello, went through the carb, great video thank you. Put back together and it started right up. Sputters when I get on it at about 30mph. Long story short pulled petcock and the screen filter was rotten and broke off into the tank. So been "rinsing" the tank with fuel and filter screens. Lots of debris. Rinsed with about 12 gallons of gas and still debris comes out. Is there a faster way? This will take forever. Thank you. 2005 Honda VTX 1300.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@davepo6443 the stutter could be trash or fuel air mixture to check the a/f mixture check the color of the plugs white is lean and could cause the sputter very dark brown to black is very rich you want to be tan tobrown and set the idle any where around 750 to 950 every time you set it give it the rev test and see how the hesitation is when your modified you cant set it by the factory settings you have to find those settings by trial and error ..wright down your settings so you have something to compare with ..nothing is easy I would use a water hose to wash out the tank faster just make shure its dry when you are done also try ebay for a matching tank yours may be rusted out keep me posted the sputter could be a lot of things

[@davepo6443]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 Thank you for your response. It does not appear to be rusted so not much concern there. The debris coming out appears to be bits and pieces of the filter that sits on the petcock. It litteraly broke in half. I used an endoscope and grabbing prong tool and removed the big piece. I wondered about water. Maybe mixing some rubbing alcholol with it to dry faster and use a high powered yard blower to dry it promptly putting fuel back in. Also thought about putting a filter on it coming out of the gas tank till the debris clearsd up. What do you think about the above? Originally d screw was at 1-7/8 turn from closed. Set it at 1-1/2 and it ideled perfectly but sputtered when I got on it. Thank you..

[@Mahaney82]

I just got my carb rebuild kit in. Im trying to get an 05 that hasnt run in 10 years to start. I may have to do this.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Thats usually kills these bikes to much fuel,,the 1800 and the 1300 starliner has fuel injection but the vtx is carburetor,, harley used the same type carb proubly a better type kehin carb they are very similar but different,,the problem is the enrichment needle( it looks like a float needle too me) anyhow with the choke knob all the way in it does not seat and shut the choke all the way off giving too much fuel at idle and flooding the plugs even with stock jets,,the jets are too small to start the engine without choke in hind sight you could put new plugs in leave the choke in and give it 2-3 shots of gas from the throttle and push start it should crank and idle ,,increase throttle till warm enough to idle without lugging,,the way I did mine was put the choke spring behind the enrichner needle to push it against the needle seat so that it did not leak and put it back to gather leaving the cable disconnected then I put a 60(pilot)low speed jet in and 200 (main)high speed jet then with the special d shaped tool I adjust the idle enrichment screw 2 turns and have my idle set at 780 rpm,,It can set a month and all I have to do now is turn the key on and push start,,if it doesent start right up and idle I give it 2 shots of gas from the throtte,,when it starts and idles I increase the throttle enough to keep the engine from lugging (950-1150 rpm) give it about 5 min. Or so till its idling at specified rpm on it's own withought giving it throttle

[@michaelcoulter714]

BTW The reason I rejetted was because I put Cobra slip on mufflers and a Cobra high flow air intake system to give it a bit more power.

[@MohammadKhan-eg5dz]

Hi, excellent job on filming and explaining everything in such details. I'm new to carb bikes and my 07 VTX 1300 cranks strong but it won't turn over. New spark plugs, cleaned carb, petcock working good, new battery, all fuel and vacuum lines in good shape. On the same day bike ran good before stalling have tried everything but no luck. Can a bad float needle valve cause this problem? Thank you in advance..

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Check for spark...check the rubber diafram on the throttle slide..check the accelerator pump..check the intake to carb seals...spray fuel or starting fluid in carb and see if it will start over that will tell you if you have fire at the plugs ...pull a spark plug and see if it is wet that will tell you if it is flooding if it is it could be float needle or float ...check the vaccum hose to the fuel petcock without vaccum it will not deliver fuel to the carb..it could be a lot of things you have to troubleshoot and eliminate posible causes till you figure it out..once the are running right they are one hell of a bike..thanks for watching and commenting

[@MohammadKhan-eg5dz]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 Hi, Sprayed gas in the carb and bike did start. I once again tested and clean petcock, carburetor but still no fuel going to the carb. Checked all fuel & vacuum lines they look fine. Can the float needle cause fuel stoppage to the carb? Feeling lost at this point. Thank you

[@willyouan6222]

What's the best place to buy the diaphragm to make sure it is OEM? Thanks for this great video by the way.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Buy from a honda dealer if you can thanks for watching

[@hozzerman]

At what elevation is this adjustment happening in. I think this was done to the bike I just purchased and it's running super rich at 6000 foot elevation. Here at this elevation we usually lowered the main jet 10% (ish) for optimal performance. Never do we increase the jet size and bypassing the choke is a new concept....? What am I missing? Please educate me! Apologies for my ignorance, been riding fuel injected bikes for the last long time and now just bought an old 2006 vtx1300, back to the carburetor.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

The only reason I deleted the choke is because it is a factory defect it leaks when it shouldn't causing it to run rich. I'm at 18' above sea level when i made adjustments and using a larger jet. You can turn your air fuel mixture in 1/2 turn till it gets lighter color on your plugs if you still have the choke push it in as tight as you can get it use a zip tie to hold it their till you make your carburetor adjustment your air fuel mixture will change the color of your plugs black is rich white is lean you want to adjust till the color is tan or a little darker ..adjust ride check the plugs till you get it right then take off the zip tie off the choke if nothing changes your choke is ok if it runs rich you can put the zip tie back on or delete the choke if your plugs are tan or more you shouldn't need choke to start the bike but maby a few shots of fuel from the throttle

[@tomallen9075]

I’m sure I’m just dumb, but can someone please explain to me what the purpose of disabling the choke is? Could you not just leave it connected and not use it? What’s the gain for actually disassembling it?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

My choke is still their it's just disconnected at the choke it shows this in one of my other videos ..the reason its disconnected is fuel leaks past it when its fully connected and pushed in so some are defective...when you disconnect it you need enough fuel to make up for no choke you need a jet kit so it will crank and and run like it has a choke...thanks for your question

[@relevation0]

Mine doesn't stay fully depressed, I push it all the way it but it pops back out a lil. Maybe i need to do away with it also...

[@davidutarid712]

You could use a higher gauge spring - can be bought at Home Depot or any hard ware store.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

​@@davidutarid712that wont make the cable any longer but it might work or you could stretch the spring

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

​@@relevation0a defective cable that's why I deleted mine or maby you could use a stronger spring or stretch the stock one

[@davidbontempo2259]

You seam to know your vtx.i have an 08 vtx 1300 and it runs and starts fine..but when I hit the throttle say merging on the freeway..it just seams to bog down until I let the throttle loss..just doesn't have the get up and go it should have.. What would you look at to fix it.. Thanks..good videos..thanks..

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

It may be getting too little or to much gas..I would check the spark plugs and see how the are burning...bright white means running lean..if they are tan or charcoal colored and it's a stock motor I would think it's the choke causing the problem...the choke on these carburator bikes does not shut off all the way ..in my opinion it is a defect that's why I deleted mine ..and jet kit it to give it enough gas to start it withought choke..I would try a new set of plugs first and take it for a test run and see if it changes any thing...thanks for asking..these are nice bikes when running corectly

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Also it could be the vaccume slide in the carb has pin holes in the rubber diagram that was the problem with my friends bike it would idle but wouldn't take the gas when you hit the throttle...also tighten the carb to head intake manifold clamps it may be sucking air...it could also be the rubber diagram in the fuel petcock check this by pulling the fuel hose off it should not leak gas unless it's running you can put pressure on the vaccum line and the gas will flow

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Also a bad throttle slide rubber vaccume dioafram will make the bike seem to be bogging down when you open the throttle up this is located under the top cover of the carb it's good to check all the rubber dioafram in the card and fuel petcock it could be lots of things causing it to bog the carb has a fuel screen where the fuel line connects to the carb the screen slides into the fuel inlet and then the hose slides over that it could be dirty also..if you have used reserve and have sludge or trash or water in the tank that can get into the filter...water in the carburetor fuel bowl will cause bogging unscrew the drain to clean it ...it could be lots of things but the things I listed where some of the things I have ran into most frequently

[@markboza6215]

question ,i had recently bought a 03 vtx1300 and went through the fluids and when i changed my coolant fluid i had to remover the tank and noticed my fuel valve would not shut of so i will have to replace the petcock but is there any disadvantage of having it stay on all the time??? besides when i need to remove the tamk its a pain trying to cap the petcock! thank you,also previous owner installed the cobra pipes so you think maybe the 200 main and 58 pilot was installed ?? im know it had to be rejeted!

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

The petcock works by vaccum when the bike is running it let's the fuel flow. when not running the fuel should not flow. You should check the vaccum hose going to the carburetor for any leaks . The jet size 50/200 sounds right for the cobra exhaust I am running a 58/198 later I will change the 198 to a 200 jet size

[@markboza6215]

Ok so my question now is I'm going to do the choke delete asumjng sI allready have the 200 main I will just change pilot to a 58 ,am I correct,thanks for the response usually others don't bother.

[@markboza6215]

Damm phones auto correct ,rejected should say replaced sorry I should start proof reading but u understood. Where are you located? I'm in NH.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@markboza6215 yes sorry about the delay I been battling cancer the last two years this year has been the worst they cut out my esophagus I have hoses in my stomach so I can feed myself 7 mons so far

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@markboza6215s. fla

[@vtxjeff6189]

Is it possible to do a cable delete I don't ever need choke and I have a 58 main and 202 pilot jet kit on it.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

How does the 202 pilot work for you how is your mid range pull

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Yes you can do a cable delete you will probably never need it after installing jets and the choke will never leak and cause plug fouling

[@angelusmortis3256]

are these bikes not supposed to have a snappy throttle response? if i roll slowly onto the throttle on mine it runs great but if i snap the throttle fast it has a huge hesitation in it...

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Mine is snappy you may need to adjust your carb it may not be getting enough fuel or too much check your plugs if they are bone white you need more fuel if the plugs are black you need less fuel the right mixture should be tan to (dark brown is best try this first check for vaccum leaks /vaccum diaphragm in top of carburetor for pin holes

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Check your intake to carb seals tighten as needed also let me know how it goes for you also remove your petcock to check water or rust in the tank or clogged tank filter

[@angelusmortis3256]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 diaphragm inside carb is good... i know im burning too much fuel as its all i can smell when its running... i think the intake to carb seal is good as its as tight as i can get it... the AF screw is 2 turns out... its got factory intake factory jets factory pipes... i did the choke delete like you as well thinking maybe it was getting stuck open a little but no luck... the only thing i can think of left is to hose it down in carb cleaner while running and see if it revs up at any point...

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@angelusmortis3256 you might check the float and float needle sometimes the float needle can get varnish and not seal right or a flake of rust can keep it from shutting the gas off also try setting fuel mixture to 1/12 turns I live at sea level higher altitudes require less fuel ..when you disconnect the choke cable make shure you put the spring back in to push the choke needle in tight ( just disconnect the choke cable at the carburetor and put everything back like it was. disconnecting from the choke knok will not work

[@angelusmortis3256]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 yeah i live like 650 foot above sea level... im gonna take the carb out and let it and all parts sit in some berrymans chem dip carb cleaner over night... yeah i followed this video for the choke delete...

[@Евгений-ь2н6е]

please tell me, what is the size of the washer? what is the thickness of the washer?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@Евгений-ь2н6е I honestly do not know its been awhile since I installed the jets and I dont believe the size was listed for the washer

[@southside1975]

Did you braze a bit on that screwdriver? I did that mod cut that tab with nail clippers and put in 58 pilot jet bike runs great no need to use the enrichener to start. This is why I bought a VTX1300 so easy to work on and reliable. Did you use factory pro jets?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

The bit fit into my nut driver (d shaped bit) I used it to turn my air fuel mixture at 2 turns,,I used a 58 low speed jet and a 200 high speed jet,,I gutted the factory box,,and left the choke cable un hooked,,no more choke ( you dont need it with jets it gets enough fuel withought it) now you just turn the key on and push start no need to touch the throttle and it fires right up I increase the throttle to 1100 rpm for about 1 minutes to help it warm up,,it runs great they are nice bikes when you figure them out(the problem always seems to be the enrrichner or ( choke)

[@michaelcoulter714]

Good video..but I have a question ..I rejected the carb on my 1300c but put in a 60 pilot jet now the fouling and running rich problem you talked about is happening should I dis connect the choke or enriched or adjust the air/ fuel mixture in your opinion? Have it turned out 2 and 1/4 thought that might be the problem

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

I would set the a/f screw at 2 turns and replace the fouled plugs,,start the bike with no choke if it does not start right up,, twist the throttle 2-3 times to get some gas in the fuel bowl try again,,you may have to disconnect the choke some times the choke stays on a little bit to much and theirs nothing you can do about it, they can be a problem that's why I disconnected mine,,just disconnect the cable from the carb make shure to screw the plastic piece and spring back in the carb,,,adjust your idle around 780 -850 rpm,, do not use the choke to start it ,,its to much gas and will flood. it is a finicky setup

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Also you can use fresh plugs and try the a/f setting you have,, try to start it with no choke to see if the choke is the problem,,after jeting you will never have to use choke ,,, if it doesent start right up and idle just give it a few squirts from the throttle and push start ,,no more than 3 squirts at a time you do not want to flood the plugs

[@demented_cycles]

I would try a smaller jet, probably a 58

[@kevinhill7742]

From Kevin Hill have you any information on crankcase breather ventilation on the rear cylinder on a vtx1300 c

[@davidbontempo2259]

I'm going to give the plugs a change today..see if that helps.. Peace to you and yours

[@changingfaces777]

where did you buy the sled at?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@changingfaces777 sled?

[@changingfaces777]

The slide, the new part you installed? The diaphragm? I bought a VYX 1300C in June and from what I have been hearing my issue is the part you replaced.i looked up the part and and it's over $100

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@changingfaces777 yes its expensive the video was done using my friends bike he ordered the pert so I dont know where he got it I know it was a true honda part OEM he paid around a hundred for it ..after all the work I done on it hurricane ian had it so far under water the seat floated away he got another seat on Ebay 100oo front and back I brought it back to life one tough bike he rides it daily no problems I hope you get yours figured out .since I made this video I been battling cancer I can barley open a bottle of water or ride my bike hopefully I'll get better and make some more videos thanks for viewing the video if you want to talk about your bike my # 239 238 9008 that includes anyone who owns this type of bike thanks again if I dont answer text and say vtx 1300 I will call you back

[@changingfaces777]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 i hope for healing my friend

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

You can check your fuel petcock by sucking on the vacuum hose just un hook it from the carburetor and take the fuel line off the petcock if it's working fuel will flow from the petcock when you apply vaccum to the hose

[@davidhauenstein1122]

Hi ? My 2004 vtx 1300c has some serious hesitation on excelleration any ideas?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Check the rubber dioafram on the throttle slide make shure it's not cracked or dry rotted

[@benzee1]

Its not a choke. Its an "enrincher". It basically dumps extra fuel into your engine.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@benzee1 choke enrichner what's the difference it does the same thing. if you can find the difference between them please let me know thanks for paying attention

[@benzee1]

Enrincher adds extra fuel. Choke cuts back the oxygen.

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

l you should get a job with KZbin correcting people lol get a life besides mine .people know what I'm talking about weather or not I used the correct word I dont want to compair dicks cause you would loose. that's what was wrong with the bike the enrichner instead it need a choke now it has neither and works perfect with just a simple jet kit to give it the perfect amount of fuel for starting and running

[@CentralNH]

Where did you get the jet?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

I cant remember exactly but it came from Mississippi..made in us.. I blindly bought it I wasent referred to a seller ...the jet worked ..buy us made if you can

[@vinsonwalton28]

can u link us to where you got parts from please?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

It's been awhile since I got the parts I dont save any links,,I got the parts from ebay,,the jets was from an American company in Mississippi,,,and I'm not shure where the adjustment tool was from other than e bay,,,you really need the adjustment tool it has a d shape to it,,ebay or amazon check both

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Motion pro 08-0242 ,d shape bit for hex driver

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Bro let me hear your questions,,I may have missed something

[@vinsonwalton28]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 i was just looking for your vid that shows how to change jets

[@markboza6215]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 motion pro has the d shape bits

[@vinsonwalton28]

I CANT FIND YOUR JET KIT INSTALLATION VID SIR

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

I pre installed the jets,to save video time,,basically pull off the fuel bowl and you will see both jets,,remove and reinstall with new ones ,,,their are other people that cover this in more detail ,it sounds like you have never worked on a bike carburator,,if not you need to find someone with experience to guide you,,I give a rough out line to experience mechanics and they can take it from their. Sorry it's not more detailed,,,

[@vinsonwalton28]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 got it. But fyi it doesn’t take much experience with bikes to do this project. I worked automotive for 10 years then aviation tech for 20 with lots of electronics experience. I am very confident i can handle a small engine carburetor sir thank you

[@vinsonwalton28]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 i thank you for your help sir

[@leahmunkie]

your choke was stuck open!! screwed halfway out

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Not screwed out or stuck open thousands have the same problem it is a factory defect if it was screwed open or stuck I would have known I am a professional mechanic and have owned hundreds of carburated cars and motorcycles borne and raised in a family salvage buisness gave me a decent edge over the average mechanic as a mechanic for 45 yrs your guess was my first guess and it was wrong lol

[@markboza6215]

i would just ignore the ignorant ones verdell they are not worth the energy!

[@vinsonwalton28]

Bro i think im missing part 2 of your vid

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

I rewatched the vid at the end I was supposed to show how to install the jets my mistake I must have got sidetracked at 4:20 pm,, I had pre installed them ,,installing the jets was easy too just r &r.

[@vinsonwalton28]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 cool

[@davegibson3763]

@@verdellparentaaawink268 Well it was 420 after all, eh pops?

[@dannyharron1318]

not a choke its called a fuel enhancer

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Fuel enhancers is what you put in the fuel...I never heard anybody say give it some fuel enhancer lol...its choke to me

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Actually it's a fuel enrichner

[@BessHeloise]

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[@verdellparentaaawink268]

@@BessHeloise thank you

[@johnjoyner7683]

mumble through the whole video

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Something must be wrong with your hearing..you must be a moron to listen too someone mumble for an hour ...should have turned on close captions option lol

[@mkcrown7]

What you speak is not clear and distinct , please make sure what you say is understood by the viewers

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Your the only one not getting it ,,I dont know what to tell you,,I dont get paid for my information,,you must be from another country if you cant understand what I'm saying lol

[@vinsonwalton28]

all u have to do is turn on captions then it is clear as a bell

[@jacob-tl3is]

Welcome to America where nothing is as easy as they tell you it is. You gotta earn it boy…

[@vinsonwalton28]

@@jacob-tl3is dude really? Is that talk necessary?

[@vinsonwalton28]

I had trouble understanding the guy as well and i lived in the US all my life. He sounds like a backwoods hillbilly but i turned on my captions and was able to make out what was said.

[@michaeljohnson254]

my vtx1300 is running rich fouling plugs and has heavy intake straight piped performance exhaust...do all i need too do is rejet it bigger ? if so why is it running rich?

[@verdellparentaaawink268]

Re jetting will only make it run richer try some new plugs try not to use the choke too much when cranking too avoid flooding if it's still running rich you may need to go up on the jets one number and delete the choke

[@michaeljohnson254]

@verdellparentaaawink268 i got new ngkr plugs so i found out it had 215 main in it so i put 185 back in helped little now plugs still seem black tho