katy perry, this is…

[@kn152-k4u]

"Fabulous for a throwback" describes Katy Perry perfectly

[@BigOwl51]

Ironically I could easily see Mariah Carey having another comeback but I don’t see that ever happening with Katy. Everyone still loves mariah. Most people have moved on from Katy.

[@danny.96]

@@fattiesunite2288 Mariah will always be successful. Talented, through out her entire being. Vocalist, songwriter, icon. Katy could NEVER.

[@helenarcos4175]

​@@fattiesunite2288 Everyone loves Mariah because her music has been passed down from generation to generation. She is one of the best-selling and most acclaimed artists. She is at the point where she doesn't need to prove anything to anyone, her impact on the industry and most importantly her MUSIC make her a literal legend, and the same cannot be said about Katy Perry.

[@ioiyu6262]

Mariah songs are timeless

[@babymario2099]

Yep! That so true!

[@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview]

Katy needs her folklore, lemonade, and velvet rope era. She needs to do something that’s raw and completely different from her past catalog.

[@asktheglutenfreechef3072]

It aint happening

[@deeptiprabhu2136]

preach!

[@thalesmatheus6011]

It was witness.

[@Thekrisavalon]

You’re expecting Katy to be a deep artist which she NEVER was

[@si_multifandom_ch_5099]

@@yourlittlebrotherGabrielReview Katy did said that after she releases dance pop album (which is 143), she want to release acoustic album next which should be KP7. I feel like we might get Joanne era or maybe even Katy Hudson (pre-debut) from Katy instead.

[@nikaylahurlbert1439]

I feel like a lot of artists like Katy Perry are trying too hard to relate to younger generations so it comes off as try hard and disingenuous. Katy Perry is so talented and creative and I know she could come out with hits but I agree with the take that she just seems removed from the music she’s releasing. I remember when Part of Me came out and you could TELL that Katy Perry was in it. You can’t feel that now.

[@cheery-hex]

yep. It sounds like other ppl wrote those terrible songs. And her collabs suck

[@jksperson7745]

@@ahhwe-any7434 What are you even blabbering about? You have like at 5 runoff sentences.

[@kristmalacs7299]

That's totally true. ☝🏻

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

Real many artists don't care about their music and it shows.

[@rvegas81]

I also felt like the racyness was too much in the videos.

[@TheBlackPanther05]

"Fabulous for a throwback" Pretty much the story of Katy Perry's career from 2017-Present

[@teri2920]

Witness is her best work.. if ya'll hadn't hated on it for absolutely no reason, who knows where she'd be today.

[@akarinova]

@@teri2920preach the gospel, it shows most people didn’t actually listen to the album and are equating a bad era to a bad album, when that isn’t always the case

[@lukalakicevic2305]

Exactly....make that 2015 and onwards lol

[@manialord1699]

@@teri2920witness had good bangers but it ultimately fell flat. Bon appetite really has grown on me tho

[@tylerhackner9731]

Basically

[@CJ-ht3be]

Harley’s In Hawaii was slept on very hard with SMILE

[@aleejjj]

This

[@danielrubinstein896]

That & NRO

[@courtneypalmer53]

I loved that one and the video. 🥰 It was definitely one of the gems on the album.

[@CMHMom23]

My fav Katy song

[@camshea]

that song is a boooppppppp

[@lazypineapple8348]

“Fabulous for a throwback….” is INSANE WORK 💀💀💀

[@onepleiadian]

Little did she knew she was doing predictions for herself while Mariah is still poppin oop

[@lazypineapple8348]

@@onepleiadian CLOCK ITTTTTT 😗☕️

[@naomijenkins9186]

INSANITY

[@maiagreat]

Girl!!! Mind you Mariah is still breaking records 😂

[@perrip2355]

Now they think about her that way. Mariah is a legend.

[@gooseylucy2158]

I'm so glad you brought up One of The Boys and how it's interesting she never went back to that sound. That album is my favourite of hers, personally, purely because of that earnest ruggedness. Waking up in Vegas is still a banger and Thinking of You is an insanely good display of her songwriting (and vocals imo!!) at her best.

[@bigbootyboy420]

@@hochoa96how so

[@purplebutterfly314]

@@hochoa96 Yes!!! As soon as I heard Dumb & Poetic it reminded me of a more politically correct version of Ur So Gay and I could totally picture Sabrina singing something like Peacock haha

[@winterrwashere]

Apparently she was going too! aload of songs got leaked which were gonna be a pop rock album and she scrapped it for this…

[@stuff1784]

Her raspy voice matches the pop rock so well!!!

[@si_multifandom_ch_5099]

Maybe she mights bring that sound back in KP7

[@AnneOganah]

The way I didn’t even know it was out already 💀

[@085cur1ty]

same it’s news to me

[@Pinkyc0rn332]

Damn I’ve been knew since 1am ☠️

[@321cheesehead]

I literally just found out it came out because of your comment lol

[@andrewgarfield9898]

lol same💀💀💀

[@zaidb4296]

just finished listening to it.. it's so bad, the features are awful, without them the rest of the album would be a "decent" one, not even good.

[@Madkalibyr]

It’s like, is it even her? Were these outfits and the vibes really her? She’s got the attitude of someone that did whatever they needed to do to be successful. But not in a good way .

[@Waynechandler-x1d]

Welcome to Hollywood

[@filipmarinkovic6281]

the outfits this era were amazing, now c'mon now

[@yomama9114]

I mean tbh her teenage dream era she was only dressing crazy cause Gaga was. Same with all the other pop girls. Every label wanted their version of Gaga. But the thing about Gaga is that her wardrobe had an artistic purpose; performance art and storytelling. The other girls were just trying to be shocking for attention. The new Katy album wasn’t that bad. I just think that people don’t care anymore and she makes it easy to be disliked.

[@jasoninthea.m7471]

I feel like Waking Up In Vegas & Part Of Me aren't talked about enough.

[@tatumnaranjo]

Big on Waking up in Vegas! I still listen to this song it’s one of my favorites

[@ajstudios9210]

​@@tatumnaranjoSame! It's a classic!

[@stxrstrxckmxteo515]

Also Wide Awake

[@rogelio9225]

Waking up in vegas is SO GOOD i also love the storytelling of the video, it was so engaging and fun

[@hellobye7697]

POM was a #1 hit. How much more recognition does it need

[@smallcd]

143 is the position this album debuted on the billboard charts.

[@randomkevinislasok]

Lmaooo

[@jades.32]

That’s being generous. More like 1430

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

Oh, that's not-

[@natc5592]

omg😭

[@shavirbell2805]

I’m leaving this comment here to see if you were right Edit: You weren’t 😁

[@sxt4447]

What’s crazy is that Mariah Carey’s Caution is SO good and SO underrated. Katy wishes this album were as good. Stay humble!

[@hughw2377]

Caution was so underrated!

[@petchlnwzaaa]

IKR Caution is one of the best work from Mariah. I’m glad she take tome

[@alucardmorningstar2296]

that album made me a lamb!! i remember when GTFO just came out and then her iHeartRadio performance

[@mr-amb3r]

Mariah has talent.

[@abbied]

Mariah Carey has more talent in her pinky finger than Katy Perry has in her whole entire body (I sense some jealousy here) 😂

[@highro13]

I feel like she’s chart chasing but she can’t keep up anymore & the campy & playful Katy Perry now just looks awkward & dated

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

Why can't she keep up? Is it the age?

[@BrysonRyenn]

@@sabrinarodrigues629I think it's because she's not evolving and her music isnt "growing up"

[@highro13]

@@sabrinarodrigues629age has nothing to do with it. Thanks to streaming, the musical landscape is changing so fast. We’ve gone from trap to alternative-pop to Latin / Reggaeton to 80s to 90s house to country & now house music is making a comeback, all within like a 5 year span. Katy Perry thrived when pop / dance pop was huge from like 2009-2015 but that’s not the case anymore. When you’re this far into your career, you shouldn’t be chart chasing anymore but evolving your sound. But it seems like she’s trying to get those 5 #1 hits again & it’s not working so it’s making everything off this album rollout look dated.

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

@@highro13 wow wow

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

@@BrysonRyenn sexy, confident...

[@pullupinthecoupebeep-beep.6964]

Feminism when used to benefit the image… not actually giving shit about it can really come off fake and cringe

[@randomkevinislasok]

Literally!!!

[@husseinova16]

@@pullupinthecoupebeep-beep.6964 True! You can tell she’s pandering so hard but doesn’t actually believe any of it lmao.

[@victoriabigiotti3156]

That song ("Woman's World"?) is a perfect example, and your profile photo 😂

[@danielrubinstein896]

She always patronize other women & gay men since the beginning of her career

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

especially rich/elite/powerful/white/otherwise privileged women.

[@tom-ch5ii]

I still prefer her previous album Smile, yeah it wasn't consistent but Tucked and Cry about it later had more energy than any of the songs on 143.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Something I wasn't a fan of was the album cover for 143, since it feels too reminiscent of "Smile." Otherwise, I like 143 a little better. "Smile" was great, but familiar, while 143 sounds like it has newer sounds for her.

[@trentenlarsen9687]

Agreed everyone sleeps on Harley’s in Hawaii as well though!

[@RachaelRoessler]

Smile was the last album of hers that I really liked. I tried listening to this new album today and the songs are just so boring, no spectacular vocals, very empty and vapid imo. The production is also horrible.

[@michaelthomas7907]

Smile had harleys in Hawaii, Daisies was pretty good, then title track smile had a gospel flair that I enjoyed. This new album is just disappointing.

[@bleuuming13]

I feel like even if smile underperformed she could’ve pushed more with that sound because I feel like it would be more successful for this comeback since she gained much more favor with her residency and the initial hype of her announcing a new album.

[@somewhatantimatter]

It just upsets me thinking about how good this comeback COULD’VE been. She had all the materials for a skyrocket. We could’ve been saying this is her return to pop. The theme and visuals are crazy. ALL she had to do was work with ANYONE else, get with Bonnie Mckee, and just put SOME soul into the record. It didn’t even have to be monumental. This fumble will be studied for years.

[@mickey4346]

Feel like she just doesn’t care much anymore.. the album was doomed from the start due to you know whose involvement, but she’s capable of so much more. Just seems like the effort and interest wasn’t there

[@bigbootyboy420]

She wanted it so bad she’s just not that creative

[@milkflavored]

It feels like a lot of the veterans don’t care anymore… like it’s just the new girls and Taylor (and Gaga who usually goes all in) while everyone else is slowly filtering themselves out

[@galitzinee]

​@@milkflavored don't forget Beyoncé

[@originalblerd]

@@galitzineeBeyoncé is a popular artist but she’s not making pop music at this time. I wouldn’t include her in the pop girlie conversation

[@galitzinee]

@@originalblerd fair

[@MsElectricLover]

Listen, there's some artists that you do not disrespect, Mimi and Britney are among those. The day Katy said that about Mariah, it all started going down.

[@jewelxiat]

She also made fun of Britney (something about shaving her hair... and then she did it too) so I guess it makes sense loool

[@tylerkochman1007]

Can I add Janet Jackson to the list?

[@Kiran37369]

Who is mimi

[@Kiran37369]

@@jewelxiatshe’s also made fun of gay ppl. She’s toxic

[@Kiran37369]

@@tylerkochman1007yes please ❤

[@mickey4346]

She wasted so much hype and excitement by working with that awful man. A shame

[@crackheadspeedway6788]

Honestly.. if she wanted a throwback she could’ve went with RedOne or David Guetta

[@aleejjj]

​@@crackheadspeedway6788literally

[@babymario2099]

@@crackheadspeedway6788 lmao...and thats bc Katy can't reinvent herself. Now Katy is just taking and singing Ava Max rejects and the album has a 34 on MC 🤣🤣

[@TheRainbowGal]

Yupppp

[@jacobbush1095]

After watching the VMAs performance, her music needs Bonnie McKee. Bonnie was involved in Katy’s smash hits and if you listen to Bonnie’s album Hot City... The delivery had that energy Katy used to exhibit before Witness.

[@danyaleman7277]

This🤌🏾Bonnie has the touch, her album is filled with bangers and her work for other artists is always good

[@sarahkathleen6752]

I agree. I keep wondering why she didn't collab with Bonnie again for her comeback. I'm sure if she did it would be 🔥🔥🔥

[@leinaleilani]

bonnie is such a legend singer/songwriter in the pop genre! i wonder why she didn’t collab with bonnie

[@bradyrichards9393]

This is truee. But i'd rather have bonnie anyway

[@CriativesTier]

@@leinaleilanithey don’t like each ozher anymore I guess

[@lozanogomez]

Well, not everyone is fabulous for a throwback

[@guinessbeer]

It’s like the A.I./robot version of Katy Perry. Very telling!

[@danielrubinstein896]

We might see her Glitch again, she needs to be rebooted 😆

[@abbied]

@@danielrubinstein896 I saw that video! (Is that the one where she does the weird thing with her eye?) 😂

[@danielrubinstein896]

@@abbied yes, the one where her eyelashes is down and she's not acting like a normal human

[@abbied]

@@danielrubinstein896 That video was so funny 😂

[@danielrubinstein896]

@@abbied absolutely

[@deee71194]

Woman’s World is genuinely an insult to the intelligence of her fans

[@mariapaz6379]

I think it was an honest exploration of feminism by katy Perry. That it didn't hit the mark not because she thought her fans were dumb, but because she herself doesn't understand the topics she wants to talk about.

[@poojawhatisthisbehavior9481]

​@@mariapaz6379 exploration of feminism yet she's working with dr puke

[@needguccithanks2258]

The song in her ad for Just Eat is better than her entire album I’m afraid

[@kittikoko]

Sad but true.

[@BrookePage1992]

Her van performance is by far her best. I’ve always said she struggled to sing live in a way that relates vocally to the studio versions. She proved me wrong with the vma’s

[@theoneandmany1990]

A lot of pre recorded vocals tho, many vocal coaches and audio tech channels pointed it out

[@abbied]

Van performance?

[@SeanMacadelic]

@@abbied shorthand for MTV video vanguard award performance. Why shorten an already short word like vanguard…? Your guess is as good as mine.

[@abbied]

@@SeanMacadelic Yes, it seems like people have become too lazy to write out the whole entire word these days (I’m not great with acronyms and abbreviations so that’s why it confused me) thanks for the explanation and reply though I appreciate it 👍🏻👌🏻

[@SeanMacadelic]

@@abbiedyou’re very welcome

[@ishikaa6066]

I think P!NK is someone who never faded away she's still going strong who came even before katty!

[@lMP5602]

Pink is still selling out tours. She is definitely not irrevelent.

[@lMP5602]

Pink is still selling out tours.

[@HumairaAfra-qx5tv]

P!nk is a legend 😭 I might be biased cause her music got me through the hardest days of my teenage, but Katy's music doesn't have that unique effect. She's good for throwbacks but her old music / messages are outdated. So in a way Katy is forgettable but Pink isn't.

[@irishspagetti6565]

Pink was able to navigate through the early 2000s starting out as just r&b but she really got famous during pop rock and being herself I thinks that's she's had alot of staying power because she's authentic

[@lMP5602]

@@irishspagetti6565 she also sings live and calls out those who lip sync.

[@jadkhattab7039]

rosalia and charli were obviously on the moodboard for visuals, if only she experimented musically like them

[@rasmusirlind8829]

honestly when you're only the second artist in history to have had FIVE number ones from the same album, it's kinda hard to top that

[@justforfunhaha69]

Are we really going to use that excuse now…? Her contemporaries are still at the top of their game (Gaga, Taylor, and Riri). What’s Katy’s excuse to still not be at the top??

[@ceruleanprince7139]

⁠​⁠@@justforfunhaha69 during her witness project, she got a pixie cut and people thought she became unattractive and the added political messaging in her music turned off a lot of people. She hasn’t been able to fully recover since. Gaga and Rihanna aren’t the best examples. Rihanna stopped releasing music at her peak and moved on to other ventures. Gaga is still successful, but she definitely lost some momentum. Taylor is the only one who truly is able say she is in her prime.

[@ferdinanso6468]

​@@ceruleanprince7139you're right, she went and still is full into politics, several posts and stories on IG attacking conservatives, she needs all the fans she can get yet goes full into politics, she got rid of half her fan base

[@Coleshane]

Six (I think we need to include "Part of Me", even though it was on the "Deluxe" version. Kanye's "E.T." remix also came out after the original album's release). I think that the Universal Music Group (UMG) CEO in 2013 (Steve Barnett) made this much clear in the lead up for "Witness". After Capitol/EMI merged into Universal following the former's bankruptcy, Barnett still noted that "Prism" was a priority for Capitol and, by extension, UMG, despite it being unlikely to score the same string of #1 hits as the "Teenage Dream" era. To be fair, I think even a reception akin to "Prism" would have been seen as a triumph of sorts. "Teenage Dream" was simply a "lightning in a bottle moment" that would be difficult to recapture again.

[@donalvarez4006]

@@justforfunhaha69Except Rhianna has all but retired from music, I can’t remember the last song Gaga has come out with, and Taylor’s last album was a dud

[@Dmimima]

One Of The Boys is Katy’s best album. Almost every song on it is memorable. I was amazing fangirl of Katy in that era and her unreleased songs for One of the boys are really good lyrically. I don’t know why she didn’t lean more into the pop/rock original music after Teenage Dream. Like be happy you had this incredible album in Teenage dream but I feel like she has kept trying to replicate that success instead of staying true to her roots.

[@hexstarr]

baby girl Mariah has a top 10 single every year....

[@PROD.327x]

Mariah Carey’s comeback was the greatest comeback in music and pop culture history.

[@perfectallycromulent]

wow, that's an exaggeration. 8 billion people on the planet, most don't listen to music in English. i'm pretty sure there are Bollywood stars that have made bigger comebacks in terms of number of fans.

[@Beach_Master]

Ever heard of Tina Turner?

[@PROD.327x]

@@perfectallycromulent actually you’ll be surprised that most countries listen to western media. Mariah Carey and many western artists are very popular in Europe, Japan, Brazil, China, U.K. and Philippines

[@JavieriOrtega]

I feel like Katy Perry is making music for what she thinks people will like or what she thinks would be a hit. She doesn’t have that care free spirit in her music anymore.

[@MT-or3kz]

Dr. Luke on every track is insane. She has the man singing background vocals on 5 of them. And it sounds like it's from 2011. This lady has lost it.

[@onepleiadian]

I’m sorry but for me the album sounded incomplete, unfinished. I like the idea on paper, but the result is kinda meh

[@1sava]

She made fun of Mariah, now look at her!

[@abbied]

Karma

[@lilbatashlyn]

Exactly

[@kurthuibowang4861]

“Imagine Ashley O if Ashley wasn’t good” 😂😂😂 Ashley slays

[@tylerkochman1007]

Looking forward to the day Ashley O, Miley Cyrus, and Hannah Montana record a song together

[@kurthuibowang4861]

@@tylerkochman1007that’d be phenomenal

[@purplebutterfly314]

The whole political purposeful pop bs was never authentic to her. She just doesn't come off as someone who has an interesting perspective to share when it comes to social or political issues, her strengths were always in her more fun and mischiveous songs like I Kissed A Girl. In fact, the only songs I've heard from her that I actually felt some emotional depth are Thinking of You and The One That Got Away. It was ironic that she was the one making Chained to The Rythym, a song about pop music being a drug to numb us from the world, when she's the embodiment of that kind of pop music - and that's ok. It's ok to just be campy and fun, Sabrina Carpenter's newest album proves that, she kinda reminds me of Katy Perry from One of The Boys and I could totally picture her singing something like Ur So Gay (that song would get her so cancelled if it came out today, still funny tho lol) or Hot n' Cold. Even if songs like Peacock aren't exactly groundbreaking, they were still funny and had some personality.

[@kammore6209]

Katy is the epitome of "I was rooting for you, we were all rooting for you, HOW DARE YOU" 😂

[@j.damianc.r.2273]

At least Witness and Smile had some gems like Harleys in Hawai or Chained to the Rhythm, but 143? Lazy and hampered by the controversies. Katy can't hold a candle to Mariah btw

[@randomkevinislasok]

I loved both those albums but this is bad

[@BellesView]

Harleys in Hawaii 🙌🏾

[@mhddabbagh5163]

fr caution is 100x better than 143

[@makayla_asmr]

Finally, someone mentions the greatness that is thinking of you 🥲

[@blazingstar9638]

I had no idea she had a Vegas residency 💀

[@RonaldS-cs7un]

It was amazing

[@thatosifuba8260]

It's obvious that Bonnie McKee is the reason why her music doesn't hit the same. If you listen to the Hot City, you can tell that she was the backbone behind her hits NOT Dr Luke

[@justjoannak]

This! Bonnie passes the vibe check

[@vulksen]

She was born at the right time lol. At her peak, from the late 2000s to early 2010s, she was definitely one of the "it" girls of pop. Her music never really seemed to change though. And I don't think her being a mean person has anything to do with her fallout because plenty of the pop girlies are just as controversial if not more, yet they are more successful than ever. I think it's more of a talent thing. She never changed with the times.

[@maloneaqua]

Yeah, I also think there’s something lame about being 40 years old with lyrics that sound like they were written for you at 21. There should be so much more you have to say about life by now

[@bohlalenchabeleng1370]

It's the stunted growth.

[@bohlalenchabeleng1370]

​@@maloneaquaI think her record label pursued her in that direction. A lot of times artists don't have creative control.

[@javonberry3271]

I think Katy would be great if she had more records that were more R&B influenced pop… like Harleys in Hawaii. It’s something you don’t get from her too often and it still suits.

[@pigeondance]

I agree!

[@Cyn_The_Vixen]

True!!!!

[@BellesView]

I thought she would lean into the Harleys in Hawaii vibe on at least one of her 143 songs. She could’ve done more on Artificial too.

[@anonimous9540]

Katy having the audacity to call Mariah Carey a throwback act is so hilarious to me. She doesn't have a fraction of Mariah's career and is now irrelevant in every way. Meanwhile, Mariah goes number one every year and is as relevant as ever. Also, she has shaded Britney and Taylor so many times, which shows how genuinely problematic she is. It’s not just an act; she really seems delusional and doesn't show respect to people who paved the way for numerous artists including herself...

[@abbied]

She sabotaged herself and her own career by sh*tting on other female artists but wants us to think she’s a “feminist” now (it’s honestly laughable to say the least) 😂😂😂😂

[@anaisanais4626]

Mimi is a legend

[@koopakid4927]

I have seen many people talk about this album but you have summed up perfectly. "Dead upon arrival" Like damn....but as a Katy Perry superfan, I couldn't agree more.

[@fizzyfuzz5878]

Her music has sounded soulless and bland to me since Roar. She had enough of a alternative edge in her first two albums that made her then fun personality show, plus most of the hooks were razor sharp. Even on ballads like The One That Got Away

[@MoMo-rx4zr]

I HATED ROAR and felt so gaslit when it got almost Teenage Dream level success. You want me to believe that TD’s “As you shoot across the sky, baby you’re a firework” is the same as “you’re gonna hear me ro-o-o-ar, oh wo oh oh oh oh”

[@Ash2theB]

You&I actually thought was really good sleeper hit. I'm surprised she didn't go more into that direction.

[@aleejjj]

Harley is soulless to u?!!!

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

​@@MoMo-rx4zragree, I was like 10 and obsessed with Katy perry when roar came out and even then I didn't like it as much as her other songs, I thought it sounded boring but I couldn't figure out why. Now I actively despise it lol

[@l.gaga5508]

Witness is a masterpiece

[@danikabsson1787]

one of the boys is the only katy albums i gravitate towards tbh. the whole of it is really good, your points were spot on!

[@GJ-yl9wv]

"Fabulous for a throwback" - Mariah just sold out a 47k capacity arena lol

[@quietopinion9637]

Katy Perry Rock in Rio 100k

[@mattjastrzeb1724]

@@quietopinion9637 to be fair it was festival with other artists ;)

[@mattjastrzeb1724]

ironically on the same day as Rock in Rio with Katy Perry and other artists :)

[@hamzaelaloui2070]

Mariah did rock in rio too one day after also 100 k and 34 years into her career , btw this is katy 6 album , dont let me tell u mimi 6 album daydream how much sold an​d hits had@@quietopinion9637

[@rosemont2283]

@@quietopinion9637 And Mariah on the following few days played at the same festival with 110k people

[@criminalmindsgirl2936]

I only like a few songs off of Witness and Smile. But Katy's new music seems lazy. I mean, Doja Cat had a hit with "Say So" despite working with Dr. Luke. But put aside the situation with Dr. Luke. Katy's new songs sound terrible! Again, it just seems lazy. Like she was rushing to put out an album. And being away too long by doing American Idol did not help.

[@danielrubinstein896]

The thing with the other artists that worked with Dr. Luke is that they are not as seasoned as Katy, most of them are just starting to get recognition

[@minhanhnguyen2213]

The excuse for many of the new artist working with Dr.Luke is they are "new", many of them don't have a lot of choice. In Doja's case, she signed a contract w Dr.Luke before the Kesha scandal broke out so she was kinda obligated to work with him. Doja stopped working with Dr.Luke on her latest album... While Katy actively choose to work with him. Katy is seasoned, she has the option to work with other producer.

[@babymario2099]

@@criminalmindsgirl2936 dr p*ke Is nowhere near hot pink nor did he produce Say So. He only produced Need To Know from Planet Her. And Doja doesnt even want to work w him..She was forced for that One Song. Hes nowhere on Scarlet either.

[@littlepurplebutterflies]

Is this my favorite Katy Perry album? No. However, I won't lie and say I didn't like this album. The other two she has done before, I did not care for because she is not made to be some sort of a socially conscious pop artist. The main issue I have with the album release is the lineup for the singles. It would have been more talked about if she didn't put Woman's World on the album and let it be the first single.

[@dennishrnhrn]

I love one of the boys so much! It's Katy's best album in my opinion since it's poprock: she shines in this area the most with her voice. The album also had a lot to offer since it was campy like Hot n Cold but not in a bad way. I really like her songwriting on that album too, she has even written songs on her own on One of the boys.

[@bigbootyboy420]

Real

[@nirancia]

Hi honest

[@honestboy]

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[@xBINARYGODx]

Madonna actually had two comebacks - the first was mid-90's Betime Stories - which not only contains some great Pop/RMB/Electronica, but it also contains one of her biggest #1's, Take A Bow. Confessions on a Dance Floor was her second come back - but I really think it might not count, because the only time people ACTUALLY wondered if she was over was after Erotica (of course, music she did otherwise around this time still charted well and even went #1, so perhaps that thought was stupid then too and really just the haters speaking loud). I really don't think people expected one weak album to sink Madonna, they figured another one would be around soon enough the right the ship since she had weathered worse before.

[@wickedfire91]

To be fair to the situation, there is a reason that people call "Confessions" one of her greatest triumphs. I *love* "American Life" and I think the political songs especially have tragically aged really, really well (which is a bit depressing to think about, honestly), but it was more than just a flop. She had to pull the original music video for the AL single because she and her family were receiving death threats. Even at the height of the "Erotica" backlash, her singles were still getting radio play. Many American stations vowed to never play her again during the backlash to "American Life", and some have actually kept that promise to this day. America is the only country in the world where "Confessions"'s biggest single, "Hung Up", didn't hit number one, and that is partly the reason why. She's done well for herself overall remaining relevant and keeping herself in the conversation as legacy pop royalty, but the only song since "4 Minutes" that's really made an impact on the radio was "Ghosttown" because it managed to chart well on the adult contemporary charts. Radio stations during her "Rebel Heart" era bragged about refusing to play her music. I think sometimes people really forget how much "American Life" hurt her, even though most people love the original uncensored music video and its razor sharp anti-war messaging now.

[@babymario2099]

@@xBINARYGODx yes. Don't forget that MADAME X was also a return to form!

[@mattjastrzeb1724]

Bedtime Stories was not her comeback. Ray of light was her big comeback

[@quanashiab.9620]

Bedtime Stories and COADF is definitely one of my favorite album's from her! You can maybe kinda say "Chromatica" by Lady Gaga was also a comeback, as she had 2 no.1 hits (which she never had since 2011, and mostly top 10s) While the album era still fell off due to COVID and some other stuff (like the tour being in 2022, and then ending earky because of technical issues). That album was her return dance music after her considered "flop "ARTPOP", her jazz album collab with Tony Bennett, and her country/rock/americana influenced "Joanne". While Katy didn't follow suit with either Madonna nor Gaga, just made a boring basic dance poo record.

[@quanashiab.9620]

​@@mattjastrzeb1724It kinda was, it was definitely kinda difficult. Erotica had r&b influences, but Bedtime Stories really lifted that up! As a lot of of defining 90s r&b producers were credited on there (one of them even did a electronica track, which was the title track) . Human Nature also literally talks about what happened during the SEX book and 5th album era.

[@LizettesB3autyChannel]

I feel like 365 feat. Zedd was SLEPT ON….😩😩😩 I wish she would’ve explored that sound & concept more 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@_salvage_484]

Fr!!!! I would rlly like to see her explore futuristic-like sounds!

[@abbied]

I like that one too

[@austin8092]

I LOVED that song and also "When I'm Gone."

[@methaphisic]

Not to be mean but hasn’t Katy Perry always been…Basic?

[@Ivanbruceeee]

Generic!

[@IssabellaPerezCruz7]

I mean Teenage Dream was her best work.

[@thepopfiles4294]

We’re writing her off too quick. Mentions of Madonna, Mariah and Cher’s triumphant comebacks, they had 2 decades of a career behind them, and Cher 4 or 5 decades of a career. I’m not keen on her new stuff, but she’s creative and talented enough with global recognition that it’ll only take 1 hit for her to be celebrated again.

[@winterrwashere]

I think the worst part of all this is that songs got leaked that were apparently going to be the next album which got scrapped which was a return to pop rock… and she did this instead

[@Callyinchina]

Tbh she’s always been boring and stiff. Music is based on the fan base & I literally haven’t met a ‘Katy Kat’ ever. The fact that she’s working with DR Luke on this album literally after everything we just saw is career suicide.

[@p87894]

Fantano was right, it is just music made by people who wants to get paid

[@abbied]

Who is Fantano?

[@SeanMacadelic]

@@abbied Anthony Fantano is a music critic with his finger on the pop culture button. He is a content creator behind the hit music review KZbin channel “The Needle Drop.” He himself has become a meme in several regards, and is often referred to as Melon because of his bald head, and “the best teeth in the game.” He also runs another successful channel ‘fantano’ where he will often upload live streams and opinion pieces, and responses to fans, news articles and trending topics. He’s known for his end of year lists. And chiefly, for his album numerical rating system… the rare 7s and 8s being considered huge winners. 9 and 10s are often considered modern day classics. 0 or a ‘Not Good’ rating is indicative of a record of substandard quality. Fantano has reached a level of notary in which various musicians/celebrities will reference him in their work and in social media; these include but are not limited to SZA, Logic, Danny Brown, A$AP Rocky, Drake. He has even been interviewed by Nardwuar ‘the human serviette.’ In short, his hot takes and opinions have shaped the current music landscape and the relationship that artists have with fans, followers and people who may be considered “chronically online.”

[@justjoannak]

​@@abbied A music critic

[@abbied]

@@justjoannak 👍🏻👌🏻

[@MashaRistova]

Mariah Carey outshines Katy Perry in every single way in every single category across the board.

[@summerchild_]

Chain to the rhythm is a unique song: the first pop song that insults the listener for enjoying pop.

[@count-abra4864]

Gimme Gimme should have been a single imo. But that is purely bc of the beat, Katy and 21 were ok

[@BellesView]

It was one of the laziest songs on the album.

[@coopridd5977]

Music, controversy, and everything else aside, what I dont think people talk about are the visuals. The album cover, single covers, and promotional shoots look incredible, and it makes me so mad that visuals like that went toward such a underwhelming album. :(

[@RR-sp3ey]

Tina's comeback in the 80s in her mid forties was great.

[@fionastempel]

It sounds like an album full of Ava Max rejects

[@brianawaters2852]

She will never be as great as her debut album

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

This album is career ending.

[@arieson]

Wow, saying that about Mariah.... distasteful!!!

[@BrysonRyenn]

I wish she removed Women's World from the album

[@husseinova16]

Smile is better than this disaster

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

This album is career ending. She'll never recover, better retire, go live in a mansion and travel and enjoy her millions.

[@gabifgt]

it's insane to think that, at some point, katy perry was the biggest musical act of our generation. she was more popular than taylor swift, even. i would feel for her if she didn't decide to work with an alleged abuser just because she so desperately needs a hit. lets leave her in 2010, please.

[@alexandremorais4595]

best video about her situation rn. 😅 i’m very disappointed with the dr luke producing 9/10 of this album and i’m happy that his lazy production is currently flopping

[@sazzzen]

I asked AI to generate song lyrics based on Katy Perry's Prism album and that's what I got in a few seconds. The writing isn't worse than on her new album and it took around ten different people to write some of her songs: (Verse 1) I was lost, but now I see the light, Like a spark that cuts through the night. Free as the wind on the open sea, I’m holding on 'cause I know who I’m meant to be. (Pre-Chorus) I feel the power rising inside, Like a fire that will never die. Everything I need is here within, I’m ready now, let the change begin. (Chorus) I’m shining, I’m burning like a star, No holding back, I’ll go near, I’ll go far. Through every storm, through every fight, I’ll dance in the chaos and find my light. (Bridge) The shadows fade, but I stand tall, There’s a rainbow after the fall. I’m holding on, I’m ready to rise, Nothing can stop me, this is my time.

[@Jo.___.]

8:40 I agree that Wonder is the best track. It’s also the only one on the album that Dr. Luke didn’t touch 🤔🤔

[@keearaa]

When Swish Swish came out, her It Girl status was stripped away from her. Honestly, that's a term for me. Like when Camilla released "I Love It" that was her Swish Swish.

[@ImJustinPineda]

Witness & Smile are her strongest albums. When you actually listen to them in full.

[@st3458]

The album sounded like it would be on a debut artist ep or first album . Like the songs didn’t sound like Katy . the songs sound like they would be sung by any other popstar who would release it as a single just for radio play and commercial play . The album didn’t seem like any evolution it just sounded like she was trying to hard to cater to the young kids and keep up with the new pop girls

[@hughw2377]

Controversy aside and being a lamb I'd say songs like Lifetimes is okay I'm his He's mine is great And Gorgeous is also great But the rest are forgettable.

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

Lifetimes is the epitome of forgettable.

[@NatDaHomie]

How dare you forget wonder

[@BellesView]

@@sabrinarodrigues629The production couldn’t carry the empty lyrics or the lack of vocal variety.

[@edreid7872]

Its a failure.. And I call fear.. She lost a lot of ground with Witness and Smile, and desperately wanted to remind us of what made her huge..her Teenager Dream.. Which in itself is another reason why it failed...this album reminds me of the loser lover you dumped and said lover trying all of his/her old tricks to win you back.. it's about moving forward in life, and not looking back..

[@colbystearns5066]

To paraphrase one of my favorite movies (The Fly), "Katy Perry's an adult who dreamt she was a teen and loved it, but now the dream is over, and the adult is awake."

[@mc-ge2bt]

Katy Perry has some fierce Blake Lively energy.

[@MarlonAlvarez7]

"Gimmie, Gimmier", "Gorgeous", "Truth" are all bangers from the new album!

[@crow22zero]

RAN SO FAST! Will you be doing a video on the VMAs? Curious about your takes on it, thanks 🩷

[@saintblades]

I guarantee you, Mariah’s never heard of her.

[@rickyleefoster9443]

Hard pill to swallow but constructive. So sad to see but true, in her interviews she seems so dependent on other people’s opinions. But I really hope she brings it back I know she got it

[@eshna2012]

I don’t think a producer that works with Olivia Rodrigo and Chappelle Roan - two artists that have very CLEAR artistic perspectives and voices of their own - could work with a more surface-level pop star like Katy Perry.

[@boltbadblades5247]

WONDER! YES! BRO PLEASE, that has to be the next single! We all agree! We all cheered! Pleaseeeee

[@BlackCrown1990]

And now...She is the "throwback"

[@phillinsogood]

Micheal Jackson, Janet Jackson, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Beyoncé, Prince were artist that continued to push the boundaries & evolved as artist. Katy Perry has so much potential to be a better artist but continues to make the most bland & generic sounding music.

[@grandtrine681]

“Roulette” was a huge missed opportunity from Witness.

[@dinah.888]

Katy, Gaga and Kesha were the girls back in the late 2000’s and 2010’s! Lady Gaga was the creative and wacky ideas and has her controversial moments. But nowadays we consider her an icon. I haven’t listened much to Kesha in a while but she’s doing great and definitely has bangers! Now with Katy, she was EVERYWHERE along with the other girls. But I think with Witness, she was trying to be a little serious. It’s not that it’s a bad thing to want to be serious and talk about things but I don’t she has anything to say. Like what does this Katy Perry have to say?? From Roar that was released way back in 2014 to a whole decade later what does this Katy want to tell us? She should’ve released I’m his, he’s mine first. In my opinion. I haven’t listened to the able yet but it’s a shame she a gone so far down. I think she’s missing her spark. What made Katy special was her passion and the fire she had. I hope she goes back to drawing board and maybe get rid of Dr Luke. She’s stuck in 2014 with a mix of 2017… it’s KATY PERRY!! She made some of the list iconic songs of the 2010’s. With Dark Horse, Teenage Dream, California Girls and many others. She wants to make a hit and she’s trying too hard to fit in. She should maybe revert back to the pop rock sound.

[@fufufu_miuw]

I'm His and His Mine, Wonder, and Artificial are the best songs in the album.. honestly, she could make an EP album with those three songs and it will be a good renaissance era for her

[@jasoninthea.m7471]

I liked 143. It's nice. I hated Woman's World but the rest of the album is fun!

[@jasoninthea.m7471]

@@anikamathur25 It's so fun.

[@hughw2377]

WW as lead really destroyed the album public impression

[@vol.145]

Smile was better

[@lucus55]

That’s good to hear, I haven’t listened to it yet but going to give it a go 👌

[@jasoninthea.m7471]

@@lucus55 well everyone's opinions are different. I just liked it because I actually don't mind basic lyrics at times or anything of that sort as long as I can enjoy the song. Even if it's a disasterpiece

[@TheLostBoy109]

There are so many artists that have cemented themselves as musical legends and have nothing to prove:Pink,Mariah,Britney,Christina...these girls and their art will stand a huge test of time! I wish Christina will be the one to receive the vanguard award next year.

[@marty_aitch]

Never Really Over worked because it was a re-work of Love You Like That by Dagny, who is massive in the Nordics. The best song on this album is Wonder, written by? Norwegians. Clearly she sounds best with the Scandi pop style and they should have leaned more into that.

[@petchlnwzaaa]

Now look who’s “fabulous for a throwback” 🤣🤣🤣

[@otterwithadarkside4422]

Tell me why there's 3 features in a row

[@musculargeneralblue2860]

fabulous for a throw back for Katy Perry indeed

[@dgk6661]

The main problem with Katy is herself. She may have grown as a mother, but she didn’t grow as an artist within the last 7 years.

[@Historicutuber]

Dude I loved that "Pendulum" song