Thank you guys for watching. If you guys want a signed print for your wall I print all of them myself from my large format Canon printer larrychenprints.com/
@ogfromutube96492 жыл бұрын
This young man is truly amazing and should be extremely proud of what he accomplished. Truly professional craftsmanship. And an excellent amount of patience.
@Qddly64152 жыл бұрын
i would have a suggestion for the car owner that he could do shorter rear window so you could still access the fill port from the outside im amazed how beautifull this car is
@beautifulcatastrophe2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@inanimateuser98282 жыл бұрын
This was great Larry, thanks. You're helping him more than you know as well. Hats off to you.
@justinv40362 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite video on your channel to date. I love that you started with his mom. What an awesome family and story. As a parent, this is a video that I think any one with kids should watch.
@camcocalis2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me tell my story, it was awesome talking to you and having the opportunity to do a more in-depth rundown of the car and what was needed to make it happen.
@---l---2 жыл бұрын
Great work, seriously impressive
@zanemccosker38052 жыл бұрын
so glad to see the build here ive been warching it on instagram
@MnBennySmallZz2 жыл бұрын
dude i have been dreaming about an 8-1 setup. you did such a good job.
@fubar12172 жыл бұрын
The creativity and quality is off the charts on this build. Great work!
@Blade_of_Violet_Chaos2 жыл бұрын
I smell a hillclimb car, bro. Get that thing dyno tuned and take it to Pikes Peak
@Rhude_tiller2 жыл бұрын
Man I could listen to this guy talk about the car all day. So well spoken, professional, and also humble. Rooting for this guy to do more great things in the future at such a young age 💯
@nathanbagonya94972 жыл бұрын
He’s building an E30 now!
@bigjsh7132 жыл бұрын
@@nathanbagonya9497 does he have a youtube
@konradzach43262 жыл бұрын
It’s what happens when your parents have money
@sizzling.pancake2 жыл бұрын
@@konradzach4326 bro he built the car in a 450 sq foot shop and built it all himself
@anydaynow012 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is the guy who needs his own show on Netflix or something. Sponsors just throwing money at him and some other cool builders to create incredible gas to fun&sound conversion machines!
@jjansen9872 жыл бұрын
This kids going to be absolutely incredible. Over the next 10-30 years. Can’t imagine the quality of stuff he’s going to be building. Congratulations
@Vaigue2 жыл бұрын
Probably going to build a super car from scratch
@scottyslattery30902 жыл бұрын
@@Vaigue i hope not i hope he keeps going the jdm route from a modern semi jdm car to a full blown s15 or something along the lines of that
@Jake-vc1jd2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyslattery3090 terrible idea 1 of 1, supercar > jdm car that everyone has
@scottyslattery30902 жыл бұрын
@@Jake-vc1jd so buy a supercar everyone had and not do much too it ? Ok stupidest idea ever. Atleast jdm cars have more then one bodykit available so tell me again how a supercar is worth it and not a jdm ? Cause u obviously arent into cars if you think supercars are the key
@JSAFIXIT2 жыл бұрын
@scotty slattery Everyone has done that, there isn't much that hasn't been done.
@YeshuaDisciple9162 жыл бұрын
Nice build. Those headers are a work of art! This kid and his skills are extremely impressive!!
@connoisseuroftigolbitts2 жыл бұрын
would’ve been a shame to have such sick looking headers and unfinished car. Glad this project was running and driving
@ThorOdinson-zc2kq11 ай бұрын
Except they don’t scavenge correctly. If they did the corvette racing team, NASCAR and Indy would’ve used 8to 1. 8 to 1 headers are idiotic
@LoneWolf-4792 жыл бұрын
What a heart warming,, incredible story. Mad respect to mom & grandpa for not only having his back, but supporting his vision, & his dreams along the way. A 15yr old saving up $15K in 9yrs is just unheard of now. His passion is truly special. Dont EVER sell that car. Hands down the cleanest & sickest FRS on the planet. Drive it & enjoy it!
@justanothernobody9822 жыл бұрын
@@Kenan-gm2kc still a great story and hes obviously a talented guy who deserved it, but i agree most families dont pay their kids to do chores or buy $15000 cars for their kids, most guys financially wouldnt be able to build something like this until their late 20s
@brandonharze21332 жыл бұрын
I thought they said 50 lol 15 isn’t THAT crazy and damn sure wouldn’t go far on a build like this
@LehanBreytenbach2 жыл бұрын
Nah There are 21 year olds with 2 houses 5 cars being gtrs C7 vette 720 Mclaren F8 Ferrari
@justanothernobody9822 жыл бұрын
@@LehanBreytenbach There are but there arent many, actually very few, it just seems like a lot because of all the influencers trying to seem as wealthy as possible for clout, collectively young Americans are poorer than theyve ever been in the last 80 years
@MultiTravellingman Жыл бұрын
@@Kenan-gm2kc A 6 yr old opening up a savings account is nothing new or special, in this case he just happened to name it car account. Anybody can open up as many savings accounts as they want and call them w/e they want; travel funds, rainy day, car account etc. He got the car when he was 17, his mom said aside from chores he had a few entrepreneur jobs. I'd assume aside from doing family chores, he cut grass for other neighbors, relatives, perhaps shoveled driveways, maybe a lemonade stand, paper route, who knows. Between 13-17 there's a high probability he had a basic job of some sort. He might of also saved everything from birthdays, Christmas, etc. I'd say what he was paid for chores makes up less than you think. But if we go with your logic of his parents paying him $1500/ year, $1500/52 weeks works out to rough $28.85/week that's like $4 a day if they got the kid cutting grass, doing dishes, sweep, mop, vacuum, laundry, making his own lunches stuff like that that's so worth the $4 a day. There's even tax breaks for stuff like that, under dependents paying your kids an allowance can be a tax write off, if documented and filed properly. Not all, but some states/provinces accept it. The only " privileged" thing is having a grandfather that's willing and able to give them $15,000 to modify it. He was lucky to land a bunch of sponsors to take it to the next level, but his skill, hard work and determination is what got him to be in the place to get said sponsors. I think he's got a bright future.
@richardbond27932 жыл бұрын
The sky is the limit with this man right here. Cannot wait to see what he does in the future. Absolutely killed it
@allstarvb2 жыл бұрын
This dude is on another level - jack of all trades and doing this level of work on his own - speechless
@JNAMOTORSPORTS2 жыл бұрын
Idk about that
@sategllib2191 Жыл бұрын
@@JNAMOTORSPORTSreally. Do you even change your own oil?
@2404charles2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly played for a portfolio car. Even down to the color so the work he's done gets all the attention. I wish him the best for his business future because he is incredible
@pedropinho91112 жыл бұрын
Props to this guy for what he has done. You can tell that he comes from a good family. So we’ll spoken and he knows his stuff. I hope he continues to grow and become someone that everyone knows. Truly inspirational. And thanks to mom, grandpa, and the family for supporting his passion! Larry seems to always bring us the best!
@heffe172 жыл бұрын
I hope this kid has a great career and props to his parents for their support. I hope this video gets seen by many.
@windows95pro482 жыл бұрын
as a 21 year old whos striving to do things related, this has me ripping out my hair and yelling at myself to get on my shit. truly an inspiration
@gabewilson812 жыл бұрын
same here haha
@CockatooDude Жыл бұрын
Do you think you'll actually go through with it though? This build looks great but it seems like he sacrificed so many other things to get here. It's fine for him since it's literally the only thing he cares about but if you also care about other things then it's not worth it I'd say.
@windows95pro48 Жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude well this is his build, I'm not doing what he's doing. Funny enough 3 months ago me didn't know I'd be buying a car but I also managed to find a car that is fun but makes no sacrifices for what I need it to do considering I have a kid and need good mpg, I recently purchased a Lexus ct200h Fsport with suspension mods(performance not stance) and the thing handles like a Miata on continental sports, but I managed to keep the ride quality and the things as smooth as can be. Literally feels like your floating going 80 thru turns with very minimal body roll. Absolutely incredible. I think it's worth it, considering I found a car that meets my needs with no sacrifices.
@macscars115 Жыл бұрын
@@windows95pro48ah yes the Lexus Prius
@windows95pro48 Жыл бұрын
@@macscars115 definitely under selling the car by calling it a Prius, I get the same gas mileage as one, but none of the stigma, phenomenal looking car, with better handling, calling it a Prius is a cope
@DISsumSAUCE2 жыл бұрын
THIS, this is why this scene has never, and will never get old. Great original builds, and builders that can talk about it all day lol
@BBoyQuest12 жыл бұрын
There are no real words that describe this dude's passion and flare for automotive engineering. Insane that he built this in a garage basically. Insane that he built this with no experience, extraordinary how well everything works together. For his age, skill, imagination, tools available, I'm convinced this guy can build anything. 💯
@Kingchev491 Жыл бұрын
Mom and Pops was raising a mad scientist and didn’t even know it! That’s Grand!🏆😎
@austinnorthrup68452 жыл бұрын
This kid is exactly what the car community needs right now! The passion is strong with this one
@jyminewtron14162 жыл бұрын
I bow to this kids craftsmanship... first time welding stainless and he did that... my God. Get this man a shop, sponsors, a TV show, and anything else to show off his skill. Like damn son...
@dvadbnch19302 жыл бұрын
When it’s passion, work is a smile. This isn’t 3 years work! He began the vision at 6 yrs old. Inspired 👍
@vazfx162 жыл бұрын
Larry, young Brother, that was a great interview. The distance - as a journalist - you showed, went a long way to helping the story telling. You were truly working for the viewer. Great job
@cybertree2 жыл бұрын
This young man proves that car guys are not dying out, and that there's more to car building than bolt-ons. Literally everything looks like functional art on this thing! You can SEE the passion!
@ButteredUpToast2 жыл бұрын
Been following this build for a little while now and the amount of time he has put into it is insane. I believe he said about 2 years of welding went into the project
@jyminewtron14162 жыл бұрын
Shout out to grandpa!!! And cool on mom for teaching him to save. I love this story
@davidboyce64272 жыл бұрын
It might be a gamble for him but a hell a lot of sponsors saw his vision and ability to create. This young man is golden to the aftermarket industry 🤜🏽👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@JSAFIXIT2 жыл бұрын
Edit: Hearing the simple tools he had, that's amazing. This guy is so young and obviously very talented. If he maintains that passion, he will undoubtedly become a big name in the industry.
@---l---2 жыл бұрын
What in the ...? Taught himself to weld. Making a cage, then the frame. Incredible. Thanks Larry Chen for highlighting this !
@swiftyunit5475 Жыл бұрын
his mom is so supportive and I love how she is trying to get into this for him . moms are awesome dude .
@269bp2 жыл бұрын
You know you've done a great job when Larry praises your craftsmanship repeatedly during the 29 min video. If Larry is impressed by the car in person than props to the builder. Maybe he's a Chip Foose on becoming. 👏
@bbrewer5Ай бұрын
Dude is 21 and self taught with self research. I believe this dude is going to quickly surpass chip foose. Bet this dude is autistic with an iq of 160.
@Hcarmad2 жыл бұрын
Ok so I saw pictures of this from Sema I think? Did not realise the extent of the build. An absolute masterpiece from the young builder/designer. Just wow.
@jorgejefferson82512 жыл бұрын
I hope there is still an Industry and market in this country for his skills as he gets older.
@kentwright53462 жыл бұрын
The coolest thing in the video: the builder and his supportive family. He stuck to a clear, clean vision and did whatever it took to get there. It is completely hilarious that the last step will be learning how to drive a manual transmission!
@-Just_Justin-2 жыл бұрын
This build is insanely good. The wow factor that you see, not to mention the fact that this kid has done all this himself and learned along the way impresses me more. This guy will be big in the industry if he keeps with it. Stellar build.
@tommytee77142 жыл бұрын
#1 thing in his process is supportive parents. So awesome how he came into this car. All by himself too.This dude is so smart, I love seeing this. GREAT car
@Skiridr222 жыл бұрын
This young man is an inspiration, and what great parents he had supporting his creative talents. Freakin amazing talent
@Lysol_kb2 жыл бұрын
this kid's family is something else. him and his mom are so well spoken. I'm really looking forward for what this kid/family can do in the future
@infamoussquire2955 Жыл бұрын
yo, his mom was in the vid?
@nutsack Жыл бұрын
@@infamoussquire2955 did you watch the start of the video
@infamoussquire2955 Жыл бұрын
@@nutsack i stand corrected
@kenwu72 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank the sponsors for taking a chance on this guy. Everyone together makes the world go round. Let's keep the car culture alive forever
@tdolan500 Жыл бұрын
This kid will never need to type up a resume. This video will land him absolutely any engineering job.
@TheWorldOfKel2 жыл бұрын
As someone's who's built a few vehicles in my time this young man has an amazing amount of potential. It's funny hearing mom say "We never knew what the end was gunna be, he did, we had to catch up" As many times while building a car I've told people "Wait till you see the end" Then when they do its something like "Now I see what you where talking about!"
@LukeWesson9 ай бұрын
I’m only 12 minutes in to this video and wow. When I was young I bought a 72 nova SS and started rebuilding it, unfortunately my dad made me sell it because he hated the car. Much love to the family for supporting him, I will always do the same for my daughter. To me it’s the most impressive build I’ve seen on Larry’s channel and I love this channel.
@hiller.photog2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow 21 year old car enthusiast, I am absolutely mind blown at the amount of talent and pure skill he has. Amazing build, and totally deserving of all the attention it’s getting. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable as far as cars go, but the idea of taking an 86 and rewriting the design to make a functional, yet creatively constructed build is light years ahead of me. Glad I watched, and good luck to all you guys. (Subbed, cause the cinematography is way too good)
@andyg806 Жыл бұрын
From 15-21 I was doing nothing more than watching TV and playing video games in my spare time. What an accomplishment! All the best!
@marbles24662 жыл бұрын
Props to the parents for being so supportive
@denishent87442 ай бұрын
Cameron, if you read this comment, best greets from Poland and thanks for helping me in creating my dashboard that i didnt even start, but the idea about how it will look is almost complete! I am currently building a Mercedes W201 with M113 5.0 V8 turbo engine, BMW M4 DCT gearbox, BMW M4 rear subframe, M4 brakes, etc. and i was all the time thinking how to build the full dashboard due to the fact that i want to strengthen the chassis and cut out the tunnel for the big DCT gearbox. I was actually planning to use steel pipes for the frame and the idea was about the same as you did it, but you made it a lot more simple and nicer than i wanted to do it. One problem solved, thanks.You have build a super nice car, big respect and you seem to have a super nice family. Take car and drive safely:) (if you have a channel, let me know and i give you a sub. Maybe i can someday show you my dashboard when its finished)
@bluasterisk2 жыл бұрын
This thing is no joke, I am just blown away with how much detail and planning for such a young guy
@ddjslhomebase243 Жыл бұрын
Mom’s comments about wanting a car with warranty are so great. Her son much more capable than any warranty. Awesome.
@BlakeMiller-id6xb2 жыл бұрын
listen dude came from money and thats how it was possible but the support of family made him do it which is dope as hell
@esainpereda30812 жыл бұрын
A serious king of all trades. Not a jack a king. Great shit bro!!!
@djisydneyaustralia2 жыл бұрын
The exhaust manifold is superb. Perfect symmetry, perfect aesthetics. Nailed
@spinosaur82612 жыл бұрын
I have been following this guy since he first started this build a while back and it has been awesome to watch come together
@jacobherrman2 жыл бұрын
very well spoken guy, sounds like his parents raised him right, hope the best for this young builder, so many doors will open for him
@dedlykuin85392 жыл бұрын
W car, W sound, W dude, W supporting granpa and fam
@JonHop12 жыл бұрын
Amazing kid and an amazing family... If every family was like this raising their kids with an amazing support system, just imagine how far humanity would go so quickly!
@nickweycker92792 жыл бұрын
I am so stoked to hear a young person beinvolved in car modification and building. He is confident, intelligent, and has great family support. Cheers to him and his family.
@nickweycker92792 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do a back window, I would do a carbon fiber louver panel.
@anthonycontreras16252 жыл бұрын
wow, for a 21 year old this guy knows his stuff much respect to him and his build GG
@cartermackenzie11352 жыл бұрын
I'm doing an ls swap on a 944 and I love the "Bluetooth" wiring harness idea! I'm going to look into doing the same thing. I was also thinking about making an 8 to 1 header. I learned so much from this guy, we're the same age too it's amazing
@andrewgriggs96722 жыл бұрын
Larry, thank you for this amazing story. I have to share this with my daughter who recently has purchased an FRS and wanted a few ideas and Wow this is the best young mechanic does well. Second place not bad at all and for SEMA. Outstanding effort and a very proud mom to whom you got to start the story which was what sold me on this video. Larry Keep up the human interest stories, Outstanding efforts!
@TwilightsPurple2 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, I saw so many people hyping up this car for being an LS swap, and didn’t really see anything special about it. But now watching this video and hearing all of the things he’s done to it is honestly mind blowing. Takes some serious dedication to go and try something you’ve never done.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
Dude is an absolute BEAST! so talented and seems like a really great guy! I love that he admits he can't drive it so well yet which makes this Cinderella Story that much better! The next Chip Foose 🏁👌
@nightmaster6381 Жыл бұрын
Smart kid and great mom for setting him up for success and for putting up with his mess helping him learn instead of stopping him. And also grandpa for helping replenish funds with the promise of doing more amazing things!!
@00wokstar2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with this guy it is cool to see where he has gone in life
@touge2971 Жыл бұрын
we are so lucky that some of these kids are actually doing something amazing like this
@ValladolidArde2 жыл бұрын
this young hot rodder is a master in all senses. Totally blown away by this, well done son
@joelsmith69192 жыл бұрын
Parent of the year award! Grandfather of the century award!
@widewagon26862 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. The passion and patience to build something like this on a first car is unreal. Big things coming your way in this industry.
@13Maverik2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome story. Teaching family to work hard and sacrifice for what they want to achieve in life.
@angeloah2 жыл бұрын
Edit: if you don’t like this and/or didn’t hit the like button, ask yourself why, realize these type person is what we need to continue. From the driftgames boys finding him random af, to this spotlight, what a legend. I defended him against someone stating, must have time and money….I was like how dare you. He has what I had, nothing, and he made something incredible. Keep it up youngster, you’ve taught me a lot, your parents are legends and prove support is key to proper development, not money.
@MrPlumloko2 жыл бұрын
I love how the intake is on backwards. It's so clean under the hood almost looks too good to be true. Hella build and wicked mind!
@6Maha6Kali62 жыл бұрын
I helped do the renders for Cams car. Love his car!
@erikgonzalez62192 жыл бұрын
Amazing build! Great seeing a young man have so much passion!
@hdoglesby2 жыл бұрын
He is so confident and well spoken yet respectful and humble. Larry genuinely seems proud like a parent
@blech71 Жыл бұрын
Truly gifted young man driven by that passion of all the STEM fields as play over a short period of time. Amazing project.
@somenygaard2 жыл бұрын
23:50 It’s not just his first manual transmission car, it’s his first automatic transmission car, his first car, first project car, first everything car.
@a-nolelamor1029 Жыл бұрын
Some of the people have a genius gifted..in math.. science and multi language talent..but this dude is an engineer genius..no technical school and training centre that he attend..but still can beat up an experienced and well trained builder out there..thumbs up bro..
@ronniewilliz1532 жыл бұрын
Nice freaking job you did a great job. The 8-1 headers are sick.
@PhamVans2 жыл бұрын
Super cool build, doesn't like like much is left of the original shell. That backdrop is insane too!
@caribbeangtr80772 жыл бұрын
The engineering on this car is amazing. It's obviously a track-focused car, and I would love to see how it performs in that environment in acceleration and handling.
@MUFC981002 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Car is amazing!!! So much detail and nothing to crazy! Priceless!
@nunabizness2 жыл бұрын
that kid is going places. he's creating his own path
@mjspeedzone55322 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is the guys first car is amazing. The amound of work and hours into this is insane. He likes cars but obvi the way he thinks in terms of engineering is the real gem here. Not many people could think the way he does to figure all this out.
@TheJkc812 жыл бұрын
Very impressive portfolio! This guy is amazing.
@moskix7023 Жыл бұрын
This build is absolutely stellar, being his first project. The attention to detail already, his future builds are going to be SEMA worthy every time forsure
@illestJun2 жыл бұрын
Thank you larry for providing these video.
@sky173 Жыл бұрын
21 years old. This kid is going places. Just beautiful work!
@mpmfr2 жыл бұрын
I love this kid! (No homo😂) his family, the way he just dives in, the aspiration…brings a tear to my eye 🥲 go you! 😊 thank for featuring him and his family!
@koolerthanapolarbear Жыл бұрын
huge props to mom and dad for raising such a stellar kid. awesome job with build, cam!
@sidbobby32332 жыл бұрын
This guy has got a bright future and has a lot to give the car culture be wicked to c what he is doing in 5 year's frm now. EPIC 😎🇬🇧✌👍👊
@polton002 жыл бұрын
Hell of a car, so nice to see that this type of art will be around for generations to come
@foolwithatool20522 жыл бұрын
He should put on a plexiglass rear window held in with hood pins
@AutomatedUserКүн бұрын
Oh that's magnificent! Way beyond anything i've ever built, even far beyond the build i've been working on for about a decade. Major props for doing this AT ALL, let alone at such a young age. You've got an epic future ahead, brother!
@stayntune2 жыл бұрын
The car is not my cup of tea, but very impressive build from such a young guy with his head in the right direction. We definitely need more young talent in this industry.
@Motoinc Жыл бұрын
Soo cool see mum being proud of her son. Wish all you the best future. Cheers from Sweden
@toddbrown41852 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda sad realizing he’s the same age as me, yet he’s accomplished so much. Definitely a motivation for me to get off my ass lol
@TheWisdom32 жыл бұрын
Nah dude, I'm 37 and my project car is still not done, let alone anywhere near his build. And I can only be happy for him. :) You're 21 dude! lets go!
@davepartridge4383 Жыл бұрын
What an inspiration the way this young man talks about developing skills. We can all take a leaf out of his book and perfect whatever interests us. A very bright future ahead of him
@Whats_Goody Жыл бұрын
When someone says built by 21 yo I just think built by financial stability and generational wealth. Show me some 30 year old no college degree building something and I'll look at it grass roots. Too many people have a head start nowadays
@KudosBlaine Жыл бұрын
The kid can't help the family he was born into but he can at least acknowledge his extreme luck. So odd how most of the comments are riding the dude.
@javier987Ай бұрын
So what's the problem? Mind your jealousy, it might hurt you someday
@Whats_GoodyАй бұрын
@@javier987 dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I’m not jealous. I’m more so pitiful. Kids who never have hard days usually turn into man children as adults. You’re clearly one of em trying to tell other people how to act on a KZbin comment section. Weird.
@Mquin022 жыл бұрын
The only video on KZbin with100% positive comments, and for good reason. What a work of art!
@Runescape. Жыл бұрын
I'm not buying ANY of this story, that guy looks way older than 21 years old, and I highly doubt he "built" all of that stuff, its been bought by fabricators and this car is a hell of a lot more money than 15,000 dollars or whatever bullshit has been peddled. Looks like a trust fund build to me, being sponsored by the family money, very similar to what we've seen on other channels like WhistlinDiesel, just some young guy coming out of nowhere with some insane money to their name and no explanation of where its all coming from.
@burtonphoto Жыл бұрын
This kid is outstanding! Very refreshing to see someone so determined, willing to learn, and seeing things to the end. Keep it going!
@chrishenry5712 жыл бұрын
Dude's shirt is neat. I'd wear dragonflies, they are the coolest!
@terrencehavens30482 жыл бұрын
i love this kid...the way he talks about his work...
@MindDezign2 жыл бұрын
Pure passion following his heart. This is the way of the current future. All of you gather your dreams, don't ask how, don't try and figure out the details. Go for it follow your heart and live it....! Everybody has this in them, no matter what your passion is.....but you must, walk towards it with knowing. Enjoy YOUR journey.
@rrnn95969 ай бұрын
My burnt out mid-30something self that used to build honestly sees this as an inspiration. I was born into all things aviation & auto, lived in junkyards & shops at his age, and old trama & mental shit left me unable to stay in the community & industry with who I was around. But I miss the art aspect of all this, that I never got to fully realize.