15 CUT Cities and Towns in the Pokémon Games!

[@HoopsandHipHop]

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[@juanca2567]

South town? If that came in Johto, Pokémon could have been sued by SNK.

[@insanemakaioshin]

Oh cool! Otes from Yu-Gi-Oh! Sevens is sponsoring this! My 2 childhood series are crossing over!

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Otis, comodifying everything, shares created as a derivatives

[@juanca2567]

That almost happened in Black and White, but they messed up in the main story by bringing Caitlin from Platinum.

[@insanemakaioshin]

@person person that was gen 5! The only good things were the characters and story!

[@ZombieBarioth]

"Newtype city" might have been remade into Olivine city, seeing as it too was a port town, with literally a new type of Pokemon as the gym's theme. It just sounds like a placeholder name. If that's the case then the idea of steel as a type was probably a late one.

[@tlst94]

Imagine if we did get Gen 2's Nihon Region as intended. Including Gen 4 mons like Arceus on Mt. Silver. And if decades later we got Legends Arceus set in ancient Nihon where people settled in from Poke-Korea and Poke-China? How'd that have been like?

[@avatardoom]

I love how I'm learning more about other cultures from pokemon than I have from when I went to school.

[@UltimatePhantasm]

same the American education system is absurdly subpar...

[@katdelrey]

I actually became fast at maths because I was designing fakemon and their *stats.*

[@kiriu_idk]

True

[@kvng_gtl_]

Facts

[@10forthebigguy61]

Schools are a waste. Do research yourself on things that interest you.

[@padmashrisubhash6751]

"15 CUT Cities and Towns in Pokemon games". More like "15 CUT Cities and Towns in Johto"

[@Dusxio]

It's the sad truth that we know the most about the Gen2 beta and have the most to work with.

[@wuachurra]

we have to wait until more modern pokemon games beta are leaked.

[@alibaba3568]

@@wuachurra Game Freak have learned not to rush with a demo when shit is done.

[@KEATONSTOOS]

@@alibaba3568 it's amusing because the diamond and pearl demo contained essentially the entire game but with the save feature disabled.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@KEATONSTOOS Funny how they added the most important feature in such a long game so late.

[@devonteedwards2093]

Now I want to see a remake of the scraped cities and towns,I wonder who were the gym leaders were going to be?

[@jayclearmen411]

Yes they need to do this ^^^^^

[@endeavor3406]

A rom hack where it's made out of them

[@TS-fe4jl]

@@endeavor3406 it's named gold silver 97

[@BroskiPlays]

Y E S

[@Marcopolo9]

Tottori could also be for the Tottori Sand Dunes in Japan, near or in the same region johto is based on. Side note, I just found out Japan has a desert

[@tlst94]

I still can't believe to this day. How can a small island nation have a desert?

[@francescocanutogiandoso1791]

just imagine if johto was THIS BIG in the end, pokemon would have completely diferent now days

[@princeerinestomago5306]

Maybe they intended johto to be big as it is more likely the last pokemon gamefreak gonna make but they end up creating more

[@tlst94]

What if in an alternate timeline, we did get Nihon as intended? And if all Gen 4 mons like Arceus(on Mt. Silver) were introduced sooner in G/S?

[@ModernVintageTV0]

The lost City Was orriginally in the Kanto from the Red/Green Beta. It was an island in the middle of the map.

[@tlst94]

Imagine what would've been like if we got Lost City as a post-game location? With a Battle Frontier in it(but without restrictions like removing Exps, Healing Items, or setting levels to 50)?

[@aflareon7369]

There's an old gen 1 map consept which shows the towns labeled with numbers and an island labeled "C". This island seems to be in the direction the SS Anne was travelling to (at least from my memory). There was even a cut map I remember seeing which was, what looked like an island.

[@xTheLemon]

11:57 reminds me of the Pokemon Brown Rom Hack town puzzle before going to the Rijon League. I hope someone makes a full fledged rom hack of the space world demo. There is so much stuff that has been lost and scrapped which makes it worth to become standalone game by itself.

[@princeerinestomago5306]

Or maybe gamefreak will make a different game but not canon using the beta map of johto

[@RyuuTenshi1]

Tottori and Niigata are also actual cities in Japan.

[@missliv.404]

It´s always so interesting how much stuff you can pull out of the game´s files

[@CiaranDillaneOfficial]

This was so interesting. Love your videos!

[@HoopsandHipHop]

Thank you!!

[@GroundHawkX]

I hope someone with the drive creates a massive fan game with all the missing towns appropriately placed to play through and makes everything have a function. And gets it playable as a rom on GBC or GBA.

[@chinchillageneral]

7:44 I'm not going to lie, their layouts are almost entirely different

[@johnxina7496]

get your glasses on

[@thebliboshow4279]

Yeah I didn’t see it either

[@Hellothere-lk7xi]

move the cave on the old version over to the top middle, then remove the mid-right building and the lower-left building, and you end up with the diagonal cross with an earthen feature up top. from there you swap buildings around and nudge them slightly into place ... "nearly identical" is definitely an exaggeration but it's roughly there

[@frejulundr6851]

“Sato” also means “village”, although the katakana just reads the Japanese pronounciation of “sugar”. Was it written as “シユガ” in the data or as “さと” or “砂糖”?🤔 Tottori is also a city in japan famous for having sand dunes. Aomori (Blue forest) is another real life place.

[@VeggiePopper]

In regards to Route 225's theme, given that "06" number in its name, it looks like the theme was originally intended for the 6th town - much earlier than Route 225. Therefore, rather than the Route being originally a town, it seems it was the musical piece that was switched, from an early-to-midgame town, to a post-game route. In another note, concerning the lost Kanto town, we DO have more info than you mention: we know its possible location. There is an early map shown in concept art that does include one more town, lying south of Celadon and to the west of Vermilion, and it's labeled "C". It is worth noting though, that in this beta map, all towns are numbered except this one which has a letter instead, which makes it seem that even in this early stage, they didn't know what to do with it (also of note is that there are no routes leading to it, it just lies in the middle of an otherwise empty space), hence why it got scrapped.

[@hawkfeather6802]

The Unown on the fountain spell Lalalala

[@harshal1153]

There are rom hacks like Pokémon gold 97 that restores the original map and story for you to play

[@jolty9540]

It's crazy to me that Jasmine's gym/arc felt half empty in the final game, yet there was so much content cut... I know she was previously a rock gym leader and there's a reason for her gym being empty (I think you mentioned why in one of your past videos), but I can't help but think how awesome it would of been if they added more to it given they cut so much in regards to location, even if they did it in HGSS, still my favourite games either way though, and I loved Jasmine's appearance in Sunyshore City

[@zangooose]

Heads up: All the Japanese you show on screen does not say what you say it does in Japanese. For example, when you mention Satou, the Japanese doesn't say "satou", it says "shugaa", which is the English word "sugar" transliterated in Katakana. This happens with Newtype as well.

[@alibaba3568]

Could you translate the rest?

[@zangooose]

@@alibaba3568 "Prince, "Newtype", "North", and '"South" all have the same problem.

[@LunarWingCloud]

I do love the Sevii Islands as well as the beta areas of Gold/Silver, neat stuff

[@STECKEDDECK]

There weren't more island planned. The shown maps were planned as routes as part of Four Island. I checked the maps and if you look at the map where the routes are located, you see they go west and east from Four Island with 3 Dungeon marks.

[@ThatGuy-ju3fz]

@HoopsandHipHop Nice suggestion on Tottori having been a possible location for Faulkner's gym but I think this was more of a reference to the Tottori sand dunes in Japan. Given the desert setting you mentioned and both the location in real life and in the game sharing the same name.

[@Bludvarg]

In the Gundam series, Newtypes are a mutation of baseline humans that have psychic powers. That being said, maybe Newtype City would have housed the psychic-type gym.

[@timekeeperz9714]

The beta hoenn region town looks so weird. Considering its in almost in b/w with little color

[@Fistrike]

about the kanto town that is in the code, there have actually been a few leaks about it, with it being placed south of Celadon, and west of Vermillion, as noted on helixchamber

[@unwithering5313]

Maybe that's where the SS Anne was going to take you before they decided; actually we are waiting for you to get the heck outta here so we can set sail.

[@WhosAlx]

Most Ruins have Tombs. The Ruins of Alph have Tomes. Probably some correlation there given it’s inspirations.

[@pinkprincess6136]

I love the south town for Hoenn because those buildings do remind me of pyramids and I like that they look like pyramids which makes it so cool.

[@unwithering5313]

Basically, if Johto wasn't 'so small' we probably wouldn't have had Hoenn or Sinnoh, I really like the stuff the Beta had as well as what it could have had but I still love the final build of Gold and Silver.

[@jesceeskylar6409]

It’s still possible it just would’ve been based on different locations Similar to Gen 5 , 6 , or 7

[@madnessarcade7447]

Maybe that desert town became mirage desert since the original johto was johto hoenn and sinnoh combined

[@lordjs9726]

I'm damn surprised. A good video AND a good sponsor? That is even more rare than a shiny on this hit and miss channel. GBM!!!

[@johnxina7496]

hit and miss lol

[@whatdidyouexpect1759]

Take a shot everytime Hoops says "town"

[@db2ez]

Hey man random question but do you actually like hoops and hip hop haha? Just think it’s a kind of odd channel name for a Pokémon channel 😂 howd you come up with it?

[@joseangelriverac7490]

What if they were to do a remake but include all or most towns that were scrap but what if they update since cities keep growing

[@catriamflockentanz]

5:12 Would it be? Looking at very old towns in Egypt, most notably Cairo, Luxor and Gizeh still being a town so many centuries later destroyed and or buried most of the historically interesting stuff. 13:33 It could also be that they realized that a location named "Schwarzwald" alias "Black Forest" actually exists in the real world and they didn't want that correlation.

[@SmartsellerGaming]

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[@SmartsellerGaming]

Same

[@SmartsellerGaming]

Wut

[@ZombieBarioth]

I think its more likely the name "black forest" might have implied something to do with suicide forests, since the term is often used to denote darkness or evil. The whole yin/yan theme might have gave people the wrong idea.

[@itsallrigged7295]

I've seen a few of your videos, youre cool, know your stuff, come across well, good voice for KZbin I gotta ask, what's up with the name? Nothing against basketball or hop hop but like what? Maybe it could be Hoopa and Hoppip lol

[@etkefjsckwti3068]

Weirdo

[@WarmLillie]

Hmm… I wonder if these unused city will be a real thing in the future games…

[@ello-olle]

Many of them did,, but I’d love to see birdon and that violet/exruteak mashup in future games

[@UltimatePhantasm]

@@ello-olle I mean, birdon might have inspired that desert town in SwSh

[@zanderswartz2832]

Hey hoops i think i know what your project is.I watched some of your older videos and i then realized u have stuff ready for it, you have the evil team and plot line.Johto remake (sequel)

[@MkD00M]

Have you play Pokemon Gold 95 reforged cause it trys to finish the old beta

[@BuizelCream]

I'm happy that Gold and Silver's game and map got simplified and just became Jotho as the new region. We got fully-pledged Hoenn and Sinnoh because of that decision.

[@tlst94]

What if in an alternate timeline, Nihon was Gen 1's region? And if Gens 2-4 instead were based on South Korea, China, and Indochina?

[@cdiessner711]

Tottori explains why Falkner's signature TM was mudslap.

[@macegamesdx3162]

Ive seen new type in my dreams but it was a link-esque looking character that still turned into the surfing blob with eyes and mouth

[@macegamesdx3162]

Im just meaning as a child i eerily remember the layout of it and link jumping into the water and having the same surfing sprite as red and yellow

[@skullkid7989]

Hello I’ve never been this early ....umm words?

[@deannawright4720]

Same

[@rockowlgamer631]

just comes to show that even Johto was heavily rushed, though honestly I wish if they do want to have remakes, they include the stuff they cut cause that would make it even more interesting

[@danny047]

Yooo Otis is a dope concept I’m down

[@WarmLillie]

It’s interesting to here these cut location

[@macwelch8599]

Why don’t Pokémon regions have amusement parks?

[@zanderswartz2832]

Because they have pokémon

[@Oh_liv_ee_AY]

One did in Kalos

[@catriamflockentanz]

You clearly have never been to Nimbasa City. Half of the City is an Amusement Park.

[@zanderswartz2832]

@@Oh_liv_ee_AY I've never played x and y😅

[@angelmorales2381]

Man I wish game freak can just make the johto game they wanted

[@spockhozzer7207]

Oh shit son, it's another upload from your boy Hoopsand 😎 Hoopsand is awesome

[@nicoheroesdx]

11:59 isn't that the town from Pokemon Brown / Prism with the Electric Gym?? Like, the Layout is 99% identical!

[@arthurfidas7254]

Honestly I would’ve preferred this version of johto

[@rehh30]

That town ahead of the original Canalave city right the water route is similar to a water route in Pokémon prism

[@Galeeley]

I love the intro music!

[@tlst94]

What if all eight Japanese regions were released together in Gen 1? But as version-exclusive locations. Each with 250 unique mons(2,000 in all). And if the post-game location was Nihon as we go around fighting Gyms for the National League on Mt. Silver(where we battle opposite versions' protagonists for the "Pokemon Master" title)?

[@nothingchannel6402]

You didn’t mention anything from the 1998 leaked early towns for gold and silver there’s a whole gallery of like every city it’s so interesting

[@HassanAli-bf2du]

10:33-10:38 the town's are named silent and Prince resembling to red as he is always silent and kind of like a Prince as he was the first ever protagonist and the only one who debuted in more generations than any other protagonist and everyone who plays pokemon knows him

[@MollyOKami]

'Sugar Island?" Am I the only one who heard that and thought "Cinnabar Island => Cinnamon … 'Cinnamon & Sugar?'"

[@linuxman7777]

I wonder if that old Town was supposed to be based off of Takayama which is north of Toyohashi/Nagoya which cherrygrove is based.

[@Okamikurainya]

Cyan = Sai-Yan, rather than See-An. Still, all of this was very interesting, especially Sinnoh pulling from GS's beta. :3

[@adept27]

13:12 White Forest

[@IamLegendaryguy1998]

Pokémon greatness

[@azrineajien1993]

Someone is going to make a ROMHack for this...

[@gustavoponce2513]

I just thought of something, I think I see a trend Gen 1 and 5 is a region with sea to the right, gen 2 and 6 region with sea to the left gen 3 and 7 is island and gen 4 and 8 are island with a snowy region will gen 9 be a region with sea to the right or connect to kalos?

[@linuxman7777]

Blue Forest, you mean like Aomori, the prefecture just south of hokkaido,

[@Ritori91]

Next time please clarify Otis is only for US residents, cool app but can’t use it in the UK :(

[@TheDarkFuryKnight]

The gen2 beta is the best version of gen 2

[@verylostdoommarauder]

I wonder if the Gold and Silver beta will become like the Half Life 2 beta.

[@Kahadi]

Really kind of bothered by the structure of this video. You call it 15 cut towns from Pokemon games, but almost all of them are only from GSC. And the very few that aren't are almost nothing. A town that's apparently in the data that you'd have been able to fly to with no Pokemon, but nothing is shown about it or known about it at all in Kanto. A brief mention of two "towns" that look more like the ideas were flipped and included in Unova. And two music tracks for a route with titles that suggest they were meant for a town in Sinnoh, but no evidence if its actually from a cut town or if its just repurposed music. And a bonus of unfinished islands with almost nothing known about them and believed to potentially have actually just been cut routes and not towns. And the fact they're pretty well all from Johto is even acknowledged before mentioning there's plenty more cut towns in other games and even more from Johto (before talking about yet another from Johto). It just makes me wonder if you're drastically exaggerating how many cut towns are known about and there really aren't any outside of Johto (again, that we know about), or if it would have been better to... idk... Make the video just about the ones from Johto, then do a separate video on these supposed "plenty of others" from other regions? Or plan to do multiple from various regions and split up the Johto ones more to fit more from other regions per video if there's that many more Johto ones than other regions.

[@glowstonelovepad9294]

Old Town? You mean Pagota City?

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

*When you are early but don't know what to say* : *Ummmm..... Potato*

[@UltimatePhantasm]

hi Glados

[@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke]

I find better that we got ecruteak and violet insted of ‘’Old’’

[@kaylaa2204]

I do not see any resemblance to Snowpoint City there. Thats just a huge stretch to me. Nothing is in the right place, the shape isn’t right, the cut town doesn’t even have a gym

[@Mngalahad]

newtype is a gundam thing so maybe they gave it just a funny random game for a while.

[@Ashen.Elixer]

Oioioi! I'm here early! AND it's about weirdo cut content, to boot! Noice!

[@MrChristianDT]

There is a stock market for used goods, now? Are you kidding me?

[@Orenotter]

What about Evergrande? What happened to Evergrande?

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Honestly meowbell is a better name than catscratch

[@UltimatePhantasm]

Either you were looking at my seach history from yesterday or I'm becoming some sort of lower-tier psychic, jeez

[@cardhoncho9878]

I do sports cards and Pokémon cards I would advise against doing the sponsored message. If it’s not insured you can lose lots of money also this is not a popular thing among the hobby.

[@Void_Editspl]

2:23 the same for xy

[@ghastlygno3002]

Yes

[@ZeroBrighton]

Would be nice if you recorded your own footage instead of using others and only giving credit to them in a bitly link near the bottom of the description

[@spudscarborough5217]

Always felt like sinnoh is west of the mt. Silver

[@carsonsandau2301]

Oh I love Platinums version of Snowpoint. It really was the best game (other than most any gen 1 game of course 😉)

[@ello-olle]

I don’t get what you’re trying to say with that last part lol

[@shadowmarauder6033]

I would love that Phont town and High-tech city to return, with Phont town possibly being used for undertale references.

[@cc6669]

Although I am Japanese, Japanese people don't call Mt.Fuji ''フジヤマ’’ but ''フジサン’’. And prince is not ''プりンス'' but ''プリンス''. 日本人なのだがMt.Fujiはフジヤマではなくフジサンが正しい。あと、princeの「り」間違えてる

[@Tuskin38]

suggestion, don't stretch Gameboy footage into wide screen, it just looks terrible.

[@pikachuwu5195]

*Cries*

[@yasedb]

COYB COYB COYB COYB

[@adrianmarion4625]

Hello everyone

[@robertwood6635]

13 minutes, 13 comments!

[@ace2624]

Fuggen yikes on Otis. Good bye

[@zanderswartz2832]

Hey

[@zavieralmerghaisan5787]

Hi

[@agentepolaris4914]

If Pokemon legends ever becomes its own series of games, I hope they use beta elements of Johto for a sequel

[@kaspervletter290]

Oioi

[@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257]

Why does he make his thumbnails so clickbaitey?

[@babel_UV]

such a dissapointing sponsorship. stocks are bad

[@ReichDerDornen]

Dude even if I lower the volume, you still are so freaking loud. Stop screaming into the mic. You have these really annoying extreme high ups in your voice when you pronounce certain words. Earraping

[@Woebn]

His voice actualy helps me fall asleep 😅