I love Barnes bullets!

[@MIDNIGHTSUNALASKA]

I’m very impressed by those numbers.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks!

[@wasachevyguy]

That’s insane velocity for the 7mm-08. That right there is the only cartridge you’ll ever need for deer, elk, moose and black bear anywhere south of Alaska. WOW! My 120 grain TTSX shoots .30 moa out of my x-bolt at 2875 fps.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@wasachevyguy .30 is really good. Thanks

[@diggernash1]

Fully agree. Barnes has made me a believer over the past 3 seasons. Deer fall down...lol.

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on!

[@WallyMerc06]

Same bro. I've been using the 130gr .308 win load and it's been outstanding.

[@phild9813]

Getting ready to try the factory 130 308. I hope it groups well!

[@randallwhite9015]

XBR- 8208 will do awesome work for you. ​@@phild9813

[@beamonk]

Great bullet. Great combo

[@hopefulballistics]

Agreed, thanks!

[@ccfdmd]

I've had great results with that bullet and that cartridge, both Factory loads as well as hand load. I ended up using Varget They like jump! I had a much bigger change in group size with doing seating depth testing over powder charge testing

[@hopefulballistics]

I had 50 thou jump, you?

[@ccfdmd]

@hopefulballistics deeper. Started at 50 I followed Barnes recs and increased by 25, and on 3rd or 4th (don't have my notes in front of me) setting, it really tightened up

[@Accuracy1st]

Re: Barnes bullets, I've been on that wagon since they introduced the TSX. Nothing but success in every aspect. Something to try - when shooting and getting 2 touching, 1 outlier, try shooting 1, then dry fire, then shoot #2, then dry fire, then shoot #3. Sometimes this changes things for the better

[@hopefulballistics]

@@Accuracy1st interesting

[@nicholasbarcomb2324]

I'm getting 3000 fps with a Hammer 131 gr Heavy Hammer bullet and IMR4895. Rifle is a Weatherby Vanguard Multicam in 7mm-08 Remington with a 24" barrel. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉

[@hopefulballistics]

Cool! You as well!

[@Rushshooting67913]

That's awesome I'm getting crazy velocities out of my vanguard with Winchester staball 6.5 with heavier bullets. Great rifle

[@TODinWY]

You WILL see velocity fluctuations due to temp with that powder. Barnes bullets are great!

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@charlesgarcia7004]

Great combination I’m running this combo out of my 7mm-08 weatherby vangaurd and it took down 3 deer last year (buddy shot one). Farthest shot was 245 yards and it anchored the deer. I was not running the load as hot and was averaging 3100 fps. From my experience this powder bullet combination had about a 1 fps per degree change at these higher charge weights your mileage may vary. I was using LC converted brass. Keep it up.

[@hopefulballistics]

Gotcha, thanks!

[@mr.mr.3301]

One little trip with monolithic bullets for those considering. Make sure you start with a clean board. Is there something I didn’t know until recently? It made a huge difference for me.

[@hopefulballistics]

I appreciate it

[@craigparker4108]

From many videos it seems you need a very clean barrel when moving to copper.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@craigparker4108 that’s what I keep hearing. It might be true. I haven’t noticed that it makes a difference yet.

[@williamgaines9784]

With your 3200 fps loading, you have elk energy(1500 ft. lb.) out to 300 yards and deer energy(1000 ft lb) to 500 yards...if you use a 6" point blank range setting you are good to 300 as well(about 200 without wind correction in 10mph 90° cross). Sounds like a real zapper of a load.👍👍

[@hopefulballistics]

Well said, thanks!

[@preacherbiggin]

Great stuff sir! That 7mm-08 is coming right along! If you're ever over my way on a weekend stop in & visit with us at church on a Sunday. Keep up the great content sir! God bless ya brother!

[@hopefulballistics]

Thank you! Where are you located?

[@preacherbiggin]

@@hopefulballistics bluefield West virginia.

[@milo555100]

This is my go to 708 cartridge. I use Varget so im a little slower. But MAN does it work well on whitetail. Great vid. Again. Thank you for this content!

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks 👍

[@sc6802]

just sighted in barns 223 jhp lead today savage trail hunter

[@hopefulballistics]

@@sc6802 cool

[@jonbaniak9097]

Varget would also be a good choice for 7-08 and your bullet. Great video man!👍

[@hopefulballistics]

@@jonbaniak9097 thanks

[@TrapperE6107]

Great cartridge. My rifle likes imr 4895 with the 120 ttsx.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@TrapperE6107 cool, I appreciate it

[@westleyjohn87]

Love your channel! Great information here. I'm currently building 3 7mm08 and one 6.5x55 on tikka actions for my 2 boys and myself.

[@hopefulballistics]

That is awesome! Thank you!

[@jasonacosta3860]

Ive never had any experience with monolithic bullets. That being said, Ive had great accuracy out my my sons 7mm-08 mossberg patriot with 120 grain sierra pro hunters.Cant wait to see what else you come up with foe that rifle

[@hopefulballistics]

Thank you!

[@ronniehallmark1278]

Barnes are pricey but from my experience are the easiest to work a load up. I agree about the light for caliber also. That cfe223 is awesome stuff and my favorite powder. Cleanest burning powder I know of and lighting fast. I use cfe223 in 7-08, 308 and 30-06. It will pressure spike fast as you up powder charge. . I hunt with my loads and have no problem with the temp sensitive thing. I actually tested cfe223 and varget last year with temp of 19 degrees in same gun with same bullets. Everything was the same except the powder. Results were not what I expected. The varget load actually shot faster than normal with one ejector mark and usually shoots great with no pressure. Group was twice size as normal also. Cfe223 shot average 20fps slower than normal but group was unchanged. Another powder that works really well in 7-08 is Ramshot big game with magnum primers.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@ronniehallmark1278 I’ve used Big Game, but not with magnum primers

[@richardc553]

Can you explain why you need magnum primers with Ramshot Big Game? Are you using Big Game with the 120gr TTSX?

[@ronniehallmark1278]

@@richardc553 you don’t have to use magnum primers but if you search the net you will find a lot of people use magnum primers with big game. I can confirm it works. I use cfe223 with 120’s in 7-08. I use BG with 140 or heavier but BG with work with 120’s. If I had to pick one powder for 7-08 it would be BG.

[@doghousedon1]

It's curious how your groups are 2 + 1. I see this a lot. What order was that one oddball shot in? Was there any consistency there? This is the same bullet and load I use in my 7-08 (and 3 others, all with equal success). Thanks for the vid.

[@hopefulballistics]

Everything was as consistent as possible. I notice that a lot as well. But I’ve never found a pattern. It’s random I think.

[@doghousedon1]

@hopefulballistics The shot may be random, but it results in 2 + 1 too many times. It's kind of interesting, I think. I wonder what would happen if you shot 5?

[@chipsterb4946]

I’m no expert, but when I had a rifle printing groups like this it turned out the op rod was hitting the scope mount every once in a while (M1A so not bolt action). Something is moving under recoil. Could be scope, rings, or rail. Might be that the barrel touches the stock sometimes - the way you support the rifle might not be 100% consistent.

[@doghousedon1]

​@chipsterb4946 Something might have been loose, but I doubt it. Not with HB anyway. I'm shooting the same load with the same results, though I never checked to see if I got a consistent outlayer.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@doghousedon1 if this only happens with this load that is just peculiar. I am NOT saying it doesn’t happen.

[@texpatriot8462]

How about a short Worst Cartridges for Deer episode? It could be very funny if you could keep a straight face. My pick: any French cartridge 😁

[@hopefulballistics]

@@texpatriot8462 I like that idea. I think I’ll do that. Thanks

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

​@@hopefulballistics Just be careful... don't say 223 with the 77 SMK

[@hopefulballistics]

@@ReloadingWeatherby that’s the worst!

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

Nice. Idk what speed those are doing out of my 7 wsm but it works well on whitetail.

[@hopefulballistics]

Good penetration and expansion?

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

@@hopefulballistics I’ve never found anything except clean wound channels and exits. They were the first thing I found that my BAR likes. Deer don’t get far. I think you will like them.

[@orr89rocz]

Every barnes ttsx has shot well for me. Took a pencil thin barrel model 7 to a sub moa capable gun when previously it would 1.5-2 with other factory ammo. 120 ttsx with powerpro 2000mr, roughly 2880’s fps. Slower than expected but its accurate and a 20” barrel i think

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on!

[@davidadams4247]

I’m running 185 grain TTSX through my 338 win mag getting great accuracy good velocities around the 3000 ft./s love these bullets very lateral on game

[@hopefulballistics]

@@davidadams4247 right on!

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

I like your results with the Tikka and Barnes bullets

[@hopefulballistics]

@@8MM.PRC.HUNTER thank you! I’m happy

[@James-Customs]

How did you find shooting the cfe-223 in colder weather? In my 6.5 grendel, i would have issues in group size, and if i loaded near max when it was cold, that load would have pressure issue when hot. Like you mention, you can just back down the charge weight for when its hot, but ended up changing powders to a more temp stable, since that was easier then tracking loads for the same gun dependant on weather.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@James-Customs I’ve not shot it in really cold weather

[@TonyTheFlatlander]

Do you find yourself cleaning barrels more shooting copper bullets vs shooting lead bullets? The federal 120gr fusion and the barnes 120gr ttsx are on my short list for a new 7mm-08 project with a 20 inch barrel.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@TonyTheFlatlander no, no difference

[@rustyshackleford2723]

What all copper bullet would you use for 7/08 mm?

[@michaelrihel9584]

did you use magnum primers? If you mentioned that, I apologize. Nice Groups.

[@hopefulballistics]

No, just large rifle. Thanks!

[@Accuracy1st]

Glad you posted this one. I'm about to order a 708 reamer. Sadly Tikka does not make a left hand stainless 708 so I have to convert one of my current rifles. I have 4 ACE barrels on order, 8, 9, and 9.5 twist and they contour a Tikka sporter barrel so I can still use factory stock if I choose, just have to cut, crown, chamber, thread the ACE and spin it onto a T3x action. I did find some ACE Tikka contoured barrels ready to buy now but they are 8 twist, which, in my opinion, isn't necessary or appropriate for a 708. That fast twist just slows down the bullets. I prefer a 9, 9.5 or 10 twist in 708. I don't see me loading heavier than a 162 grain bullet. I also have 100 of the Barnes 120 TTSX to try, along with 140, 150 Nos btips, 139LRX, and 160 Norma TipStrike. Just trying to decide if I want to use Norma brass I have on hand or go premium with Alpha, Lapua, or Peterson.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@Accuracy1st let me know your results

[@Accuracy1st]

@@hopefulballistics Shall do, will be awhile. Barrels take 12 weeks and I'm hoping to have by mid November. I'll email you

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Looks really good from here. Good sd/es. I don't do well with cfe223 in 223/5.56 or 308 in my SD/ES. 75-150 ES has been the norm. It is very temperature sensitive as well. Accuracy is ok to great. It seems to like 150/155s in my 308 bolt gun. Is there something I might change to get SDs like yours?

[@hopefulballistics]

@@guardianminifarm8005 is your brass prep pretty detailed?

[@guardianminifarm8005]

@@hopefulballistics It depends. I don't always aneal & trim my cases. So my empties my vary a bit in length.

[@MattW-wr7th]

I noticed your groups are mostly two touching, and the third slightly off. If it’s anything like my tikka the two touching will be the first two round and the third it will throw. Cold barrel groups I know take a long time but you will often be punching 1 ragged hole.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@MattW-wr7th I don’t disagree

[@1000mrjim]

I have heard that they shoot better with more jump to lans then cup and core. No experience with them yet but soon.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@1000mrjim I set them at 50 thou jump

[@stevemccall6201]

What was your charge weights of CFE-223 for your respective groups? Did you go up to book max? COAL?

[@hopefulballistics]

@@stevemccall6201 send me an email I’ll discuss these things.

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

Did you clean your bore before shooting the monos?

[@hopefulballistics]

…yes I did. I’m not convinced it means anything. I know it’s going around after what Ron Spomer said, but I haven’t noticed a difference. But yes it was clean.

[@doylethorn9251]

@@hopefulballistics It made a big difference with my Savage Axis in 30'06. My groups with the 130gr went from 3 1/2 to 1 1/4 after cleaning the copper out from jacketed bullets.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@doylethorn9251 that’s a big difference

[@texpatriot8462]

Have you had accuracy issues when firing solid copper bullets after the barrel has been fouled by traditional bullets.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@texpatriot8462 no, I haven’t noticed a difference

[@gregb.6682]

Im basically using the same platform. Really like the tika. Looking forward to seeing more of your shake down on this interesting caliber.

[@hopefulballistics]

Awesome, thanks

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Be great for caribou

[@hopefulballistics]

True!

[@woodman8261]

How about a 0 degree day like we get here in northern wi.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@woodman8261 haha, no pressure

[@larrygabbard4896]

Curious which bullet out of that string was the one that was 1” out.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@larrygabbard4896 I think the last

[@larrygabbard4896]

@@hopefulballistics I was just curious. I have a ruger American in 308 that 90% of the time puts 1&3 touching and the second is 1” out. I also have a savage axis 2 stainless in 308. It loves ttsx 130’s.

[@luvtahandload7692]

​@@larrygabbard4896Have you tried a 4th shot, then a 5th, and it does the same thing? Printing 2 groups in the same string might mean something is wonky with scope or mounts. It's bouncing back and forth. Something similar could be happening with the bedding. Finding a sweet spot in the stock screw torque may be enlightening as well. 🤷‍♂️

[@larrygabbard4896]

@@luvtahandload7692 thanks for the advice. The scope, mounts and stock were torqued to specs. Stock is free floated but I’m thinking about bedding the action.

[@jasonrottlaender1721]

3200 fps is smoking fast for a 7mm08 Hornady reloading showing 3100 max with 120 gr. v max bullet. Heck I'm going 3120 fps in my 270 win. With 60 gr of H4831 and 130 gr interlock. Something doesn't seem right? Max load 49.5 gr cfe with 120 nosler BT is showing 3150 fps

[@hopefulballistics]

82 degrees might have contributed a bit to the velocity. But no pressure until the last group. I’m really happy with this combo.

[@armedreptile7889]

Who makes that little fan for cooling the bore?

[@orr89rocz]

Riflekuhl by magnetspeed

[@hopefulballistics]

Yes that’s it

[@CastIeBravo]

This is money right here. I’ve used both the 110 and 120. 120 does better at extended ranges over the 110. I just wish they weren’t so blasted expensive.

[@hopefulballistics]

I understand that

[@lannysaintsing]

140 gr. in 7mm, rem,?

[@hopefulballistics]

What are you asking?

[@craigparker4108]

@@hopefulballistics Probably that 140 grain is considered the sweet spot for 7mm 08 & would be better for larger the species.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@craigparker4108 I would say that’s the most common and popular weight in the 7mm 08.

[@titomish5914]

Some people say they don’t expand that great

[@hopefulballistics]

They do at these speeds. Just keep your distance reasonable.

[@titomish5914]

@@hopefulballistics is 2000 fps still a good for expansion?

[@hopefulballistics]

@@titomish5914 borderline. Acceptable, but definitely not ideal expansion at that velocity.

[@phild9813]

Keep in mind… Velocity required for expansion varies wildly depending on the specific bullet and cartridge it was designed for. But yeah, I think 2000 is probably bare minimum for the TSX/TTSX. LRX expands at a bit lower velocity.

[@titomish5914]

@@phild9813 that’s what i heard, i am planing on using6.5 creedmore for whitetail this season using barnes lrx 127 gr

[@cw2a]

😜😝💥💥😝😜

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks!

[@toddanderson572]

Only 2 nice bucks I've lost...Barnes. partition or Accubonds for me

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for watching