Horizon Hobby - Carbon Cub S 2 - Flap Install & Flight

[@johnlaprest7631]

Brian has become my "go to" for almost everything in RC planes. I am disappointed when I can't find a plane I want to buy or update or learn almost anything on RC planes. The most detailed information out there. Thank you for all of your help. I wish I had found you sooner!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You are welcome! Glad to have you here with us!

[@Stank-b8w]

Just so you know, these are the only videos, over 1 hour, on KZbin, that not only do I watch, but rewatch.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That is very flattering, and appreciate - Thanks Pete! KZbin is building a new data center, and they're naming after me ;) LOL!!!! JK

[@Stank-b8w]

@@BrianPhillipsRC lol that would be cool, I have a question, when you use that channel for the flaps, does it still control the advance, novice, experienced setting?

[@fcr2388]

Thats what im wondering ​@@Stank-b8w

[@JoneRich80]

Just completed my maiden flight. Was pretty nervous but the flap install is a game changer. Makes take off and landing so much easier and slows it down in the air. Perfect for beginners. Got the bug now! Thank you so much for the videos. Flaps work fine with the RTF transmitter included.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

AWESOME!!! Flaps are like a whole new plane! Glad you did it ;)

[@jdssurf]

Wait so I bought the rtf, does it come with flaps, just not the servo?

[@JoneRich80]

@@jdssurf yes

[@HciContractor]

@@JoneRich80 well that's cool! I just ordered the Chandra Patey version. Hopefully I can add the flaps and use the rtf transmitter as well. I have an old Dx6i I think it is. I stopped flying for 10 yrs and just restarted so I'm rusty on the dx6i and the new technology. I don't know if the old Dx will work the new stuff? Thanks Jon!

[@bendrixbailey1430]

Thank you again for the thorough explanations. I installed my flaps yesterday. The radio setup on thee NX8 was a bit different from what you showed, but your guidance helped immensely in deciphering the Spektrum manual. There was no mystery at all in coordinating the flap and elevator deployment speed. The Flap System control page is awesome. After getting the servo and switch assigned correctly everything else can be done from that page. The position of the servo/switch is controlled by a value, -100 to 100, for both ends and the center position. What I found is that I could “reverse” the servo just by swapping the sign in the endpoints. The elevator position was similarly easy to set and so after experimenting and finding that positive values deflected pitch down, I set those to a conservative 10% (half flaps) and 20%. When the winds calm I’ll test and adjust those for perfect balance. I watched you theorize a way to get elevator deployment to synchronize (time delay) with the flaps. I know you have an NX8 now so switch to that and there is nothing extra needed. When you set the elevator deflection in the Flap System page the timing is handled for you. My flaps and elevator deploy at the same speed. Perfect! Why 4 seconds? I timed the flap deployment on my Cirrus and found it is about 2 seconds to go from none to half, and another 2 to go from half to full. When I had a 185 I always deployed the flaps with some finesse (hand operated flap lever). Flap deployment and retraction initiate significant pitch diversions. Rapid flap deployment near the runway would likely result in some dangerous excursions. Rapid flap retraction at low speeds can cause an immediate stall, with no warning buffet. Below 1,000 feet (real airplane) that is deadly. So the long and short of it is I want the little model to behave well, like a real airplane. Are you also a pilot or student pilot?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks for the feedback, and so glad you're getting the hang of it! The programmable setup on this model left something to be desired, but since I've been running the NX8, many of these issues have been resolved. Also, I think that I had been running about 4-5 year old firmware on my DX18, until very recently, so that might have played a part in my trouble. Either way, very glad you're getting it figured out!!! Agreed about flap deployment - slow is best for sure ;) As for flying full scale, or being a student pilot...not yet, but I want to get flying soon. I own a plane, but can't fly it ;( Teenie Two. We have a very short video about it, if you're curious. I want to fly ultralights, but I've more or less committed to making everything else in our lives "in order" if I start such a potentially dangerous hobby....4 kids and wife depending on me...so might not happen as soon as I want it too... Have a Happy Easter, if we don't speak another 3-4 times before them ;)

[@johnlaprest7631]

Thanks!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank you! Glad we could help!

[@DominicGreen432]

Always find myself subconsciously always making sure throttle cut is on! Partly due to you I’d imagine. Great video as always.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

AWESOME!!! I got blamed for a GOOD habit for once ;) Did you hear that Camera Crew!??!?!?

[@jasonhansen782]

CLEAR!

[@jasonhansen782]

The Camera Crew And Brain is the best

[@bullitridden]

Seen MANY of your vids since bein stuck @ home for a few days. Thanks! Believe this has gotten me back after getting out of R/C since 96 (started w/a Kyosho Wildcat buggy in '83). This model is what I've decided to go w/ to return...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Nice! Glad to help get you back interested. So much more than this too, and even more exciting when you get ready to dive back in!!!

[@bullitridden]

@BrianPhillipsRC I want them ALL now hahaha. Just like when I was 12 yrs old (back in 82) just starting this life-long obsession! :)

[@boxlessthinker1973]

Thank you Brian from a rookie using this plane! Very helpful video!

[@mattmiller7494]

Brian thanks for showing this plane off, I bought this plane after I bought the T-28 because I was too worried to fly the T-28 and wreck it. This plane is a breeze to fly, but the wing creates so much lift it becomes difficult to land it in safe when there is wind, you don’t have enough down elevator to overcome the lift. It’s so confidence inspiring that I’ve actually been practicing flying without safe more and more. I figure a couple dozen more flights with this plane and I’ll celebrate with the maiden flight of the T-28. Thanks again for bringing all the excellent content and making it so exciting to watch. You and the camera crew Keep up the great work!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Very glad you're enjoying the content, and thanks Matt! Great choices of planes, btw ;) As for your elevator concern, yes! Just don't let SAFE get you into a stall - IT CAN HAPPEN, but hopefully you'll be quick with the throttle since you're landing. One tip, you may have heard or seen before, but when landing make sure you get lined up (obviously) then just get settled into an approach. When you're satisfied, use throttle to either increase or decrease your rate of decent. It's a lot easier if you can narrow down the control inputs to just ONE basic control. Obviously, as you advance through the ranks as an RC pilot, you'll want to do all sorts of other cool and fun stuff, like cross controlling the plane on the way down, so you can slow WAY down in a huge hurry, and still stay lined up with the runway - just like the real ones! BUT for the moment, try to really MASTER that throttle thing...it'll make you a way better pilot, and it's how I learned to land, and helped a ton. Good luck! Keep flying Matt! Practice makes proficiency, and you can do it! Never end the day on a crash...yes, fly and land an easy plane. It's such a mental game...like golf...or something similar, you gotta learn, of course, but there's such a huge mental block for many new pilots, and when you break through, it's like a whole other experience - you won't believe me until it happens, and all of a sudden, it's "EASY" to fly. You'll forget about what you're doing and it just happens...so surreal the first few times you realize it's happening!

[@mattmiller7494]

I can’t wait for that ahah moment when it all totally clicks for me. I have a spare 637 receiver that I may swap out in this plane so that I can set the flaps appropriately and change out the bank angles in safe but I also don’t want to rely on safe to fly, for now it’s a great tool though. I read in the manual that this flight control is altitude based which is pretty cool, I was just surprised how easy this plane is to fly even without safe. The area I have to fly in is unfortunately always windy which isn’t ideal for learning but should make me better in the end. I very rarely interact with KZbin personalities but I love your content and you actually respond. Again keep up the great work, I’ll keep watching and buying through your links to help you out. I’d love to see you fly the F35 edf that Horizon offers, that plane looks amazing.

[@ghosttargets9288]

Thanks for the video Brian. I just received my Cub and wanted to set up the flaps. Your "how to" video will make this a WHOLE lot easier. And I am a noobie, with some experience on a park flyer mini.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad it helped, and keep in mind my repeated mention of the fact that a programmable radio WILL make the experience better. So, if you have one, please set that up and enjoy. The stock DXs does the job, but it could fly a lot easier with a programmable radio...seems a bit counter-intuitive, but it's true!

[@pianoplaying2728]

Thanks for the video! I’ve been wanting flaps on the cub because we had a spare servo, but I thought it wouldn’t work with the dxs. But thanks to this video I now have flaps on the cub using the dxs

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad I could help! It's not too hard to add, but keep in mind, the programmable transmitter will make the plane fly a ton better, since you can add elevator to flap correction, something you can't do on the DXs or DXe :(

[@rctrucks2094]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Is the DXS or the DXE better?

[@brendanomara339]

Just bought a used one of these planes, and I'm going to be doing this for sure! I may have to replace the receiver as well because it is not letting me bind it up properly, but the plane is in perfect condition so it should be worth the effort!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Won't let you bind properly??? Are you sure it's not the OLD one with GPS? If so, there's a bunch of WEIRD steps you have to do first.

[@brendanomara339]

I think it is the old one with the GPS! I’ll do more research on how to bind this. Thanks so much.

[@aaron___6014]

I was watching some Trent Palmer videos this afternoon and installing a flap servo on my Cub came to mind. Perfect!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I want to be half as cool as Trent Palmer when I grow up ;)

[@MrShouser1955]

Thanks for the detailed install especially using the servo tester to position the flaps. Other videos do not come close.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Stephen! Glad we could help. More where this came from ;)

[@spiff2776]

Great video, Brian. I knew you'd love the flaps on that thing. The flare is a little sluggish with the flaps when you're landing, so I upped my elevator throw and problem solved. I noticed you were greasing your landings at the end. Well done.. Now that's how you keep your pants on!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

LOL Thanks!!! BUT funny you mentioned it, since my pants still ended up off ;) :) :)

[@avinath1]

@@BrianPhillipsRC LOL I see what ya did there ;)

[@Brestae]

Good video! When you know the instructions can't be right, its great to have a video of someone who knows what they're doing, to reference! Also great that this RTF plane came with an option that once installed, practically shouts that you now have a good excuse to go buy a fancier transmitter! 🙂

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks - This plane is NOT super easy to setup, which kinda drives me nuts...it's a BEGINNER PLANE!!!!! BUT, we do like it, and there's reasons for the non-sense with the channel count, but I still think it would have behooved Horizon Hobby to make this fly on an AR630, and KISS (keep it simple stupid) since the average NEW pilot isn't gonna know how to do this stuff without a literal step-by-step like we've TRIED to put together ;) Funny thing is, the PNP version of this plane, if it were available would be 10X easier to setup from scratch, with SAFE SELECT, rather than FULL SAFE...and the GPS - give me a break...WAAAAAAY to complicated. Anyway, glad you're here with us, and glad we could play a small part in helping you through the process. P.S. Watch one of the more "Advanced" planes and it might make you chuckle how much easier some of them end up really being!

[@Brestae]

@@BrianPhillipsRC This Carbon Cub 2S is my first RC Airplane. I've flown drones for photography/videography for a long time, so that helped... all the same, learning RC Airplane Piloting from scratch is a fun challenge! Agree with all you've said about this plane, to the degree that I can as a beginner. EXCEPT: You kind of poo-poo'ed the Landing Assist module, and I have to tell you that thing's super! It really works well, is incredibly simple to install, and its never fallen out. Your controls override it or by just switching into Expert mode that sensor gets disabled and its all you. But its a great learning tool if you're out there by yourself connecting the dots! OH: I struggled with the GPS module and yanked it out in frustration... THEN I saw your Setup/Fly video and felt SO vindicated!!! Anyway... a month into RC airplane ownership and I'm hooked. If weather ever clears I'll find out if it still flies after my flap install! Kudos to the Camera Crew too! (PS: Ordered a fancier transmitter. If this snow doesn't quit, I'm gonna go broke.)

[@gavindunlap724]

Thanks so much for proving that it was compatible, I look forward to getting my flaps all set up!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by and watching!

[@richarddorsch7275]

Great job. I recently purchased this plane as used ( with flaps) with a DXs and your video has helped me understand this plane and transmitter. Thank you.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad it helped!

[@hagarthenorwegian8571]

Good timing, I have the Carbon Cub S+ and installed the servo for the flaps, I am having difficulty adjusting my flap servo though....watching the video again...thanks for your efforts..

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad I could help - you can do it!!! It's a bit finicky. They kinda make it harder than it has to be....I kinda don't understand for this price point, why it doesn't come with flaps, and LED's stock ??? I am most definitely a Horizon Hobby "fan-boy" but sometimes they make you say "hummmm"...

[@hagarthenorwegian8571]

@@BrianPhillipsRC All servos are working but the motor won't spin. Attempted to calibrate the ECS and all that happened is my propeller chewed a couple of holes in my pool table cover..dam...turned off the transmitter and unplugged the battery. powered back up and nothing...been watching the youtube video's but nothing works, do you have a video on ESC calibration?

[@TheBobinVA]

Brian, you shoulda been a high school teacher since you explain what you're doing very well. Another terrific video.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks! My wife, and wonderful camera crew was a professional teacher ;)

[@TheBobinVA]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Your wife, once being a teacher, explains where you got your teaching abilities lol.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

LOL - I didn't get it from her ;) I do this for work too...technical training is part of what I have to do to get my customers to understand why they need to pay my company $1500-2000 per day for me to come in and work on their equipment ;) My best customers don't even ask anymore...they just know it's gonna be expensive - LOL :)

[@mattynn8080]

Came here to say this lol.

[@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710]

Hello Brian, I'm glad that you have installed flaps on this plane. Listening to your in-flight commentary, you use flaps more than anybody else that is flying. So, it is very good for you to have them. I got to say, this plane is very good looking. Not as sexy as a P-51 1700mm, but a looker none the less. " Hey! "

[@keithshillbillyrcn849]

Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew, as always well done. Love the carbon cub. Its an everyday flyer. Flaps make the plane different on flying. Thanks for the video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Our pleasure!

[@truenaturestormers2525]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Super loved it and being funny is a plus. We love you and your family, god bless brother.

[@bcflyer99]

Awesome little plane. Even for an experienced pilot like myself this would be a nice relaxing flyer. I would even add that landing sensor because I love the technology. One doesn't really need flaps, but it was a good idea to enable them anyway. Thanks for your reviews.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Awesome!

[@gazzabyerun9556]

👍 I agree with you there on the flaps, Horizon stop cutting corners, for the amount of money these planes cost ... Thanks Brian and camera crew for sharing and educating us on how to do this! I have learned a lot on RC from you're channel since i found you on the KZbin world! ☠️ SEMPER Fi 🇺🇸🐾🐾🐾

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Totally agree, and glad you're here with us Gazza Byerun!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't think they're cutting corners....I just cant' understand why one servo at full retail, $15, can't be included at this really pretty high price point... You should know I"m a big Horizon Hobby "Fan-boy", but they make some strange decisions, from time to time.

[@chetmyers7041]

@@-BUFFALOMan I'm wondering if Horizon wants pilot to be very acquainted with how the plane flies without flaps, before graduating to flaps. Flaps do add complexity to the pilot's job. Just one more switch to hit at the wrong time.

[@jamestait65]

You'll have to give us a tour sometime of the hundreds of planes in the hanger/basement. I can only imagine!

[@kevinlandry7344]

Yes! I am waiting for that one as well!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I've done them periodically, but need to do an update soon!

[@articwhite653]

YES!

[@joeywade7770]

Thank you so much for adding this to the CC playlist !

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank YOU Joey!!! I didn't realize it wasn't on there, and I regularly direct people to playlists, so you really helped me out!!!

[@kdubs57]

Added flaps today. Thanks for the video. It was very helpful!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad it helped! Totally worth the effort!!!

[@RGunth]

GREAT VIDEO camera crew!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank you very much!

[@Leemaw]

I love your method of balancing the prop without removal......going to balance several of my Horizon planes that way...TY

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad to help - I hear vet RC pilots complaining that I do it this way (All the time) BUT who cares??!!?! It's balanced, isn't it???? ;) Go for it!!!

[@jimmyherman4191]

Thank you for all the info Bryan I like watching your videos I learn stuff

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You're welcome Jimmy! Glad you're here with us, and honored we can help you out!

[@remibair3138]

I've done the same upgrade on My Carbon Cub S. An easy solution is upon start up when the Plane is zeroing itself and looking for Bind, have the tail elevated about 3". It fools SAFE mode into thinking its on flat ground and when it is pitched forward about 10 degrees. Now the extra lift wont balloon you by pitching back, it'll keep itself level.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

nice, but I haven't been able to trick these planes with new SAFE...OLD yes, but new, no...

[@remibair3138]

Yeah this is the older one so,,, I'm not sure you could. I did however watch your vid on installing the flaps and servo. Saved alot of time👍👍. I've always did the 3" elevated binding when flying w/out em but it seemed to help afterwards too.

[@JohnRBooth]

Excellent Video Buddy. Doing my flap install now while watching your video

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sweet! Hope you enjoy it even more when you get those flaps installed!

[@JohnRBooth]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Got her completely built, flaps and all. Your videos helped immensely. This little USB charger that came with it is very slow, been cooking for about 5 hours to do one battery. I'm thinking about the S2100 AC Dual charger. I'm pretty impressed that the less expensive transmitter (DXS) was already setup to add elev/rudder with the ailerons but I'm still considering upgrading to the Spektrum DX8E if I can distract the wife long enough. Thanks again Brian

[@TheMonk7423]

Where do you get larger scale Planes like the Boeing behind you ?

[@jphelps1277]

Thanks for checking the remote. I asked Horizon why exactly it wouldn't and this was the response: " Technically switch D could be used, but it is not recommended. Flaps requires a mixing function (FLP=ELE) to control the attitude when flaps are deployed. The DXS transmitter does not currently have a mixing function. Otherwise, channel 7 is available for auxiliary functions." I do find it interesting that they say the transmitter ‘currently’ does not have the mix feature making me think down the road we might be able to update it to do so.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I agree that this mix is very helpful, BUT you CAN use the switch, which is a bit annoying to have to figure out... Still, awesome plane!

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Great work as always, your “how-too’s” are very informative, always learn something from ya buddy, thanks for all the work👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You bet Jeff!

[@Punisher_f30]

Got 2 1.2m p-51s and I just ordered this one, pretty sure I’ll have more fun w it than w the p-51s because of how smooth them things fly. Also thanks for this video because I’m sure I’ll need it to install the flaps 😂

[@JoneRich80]

Ordered the S2 today and the servo thatawesome

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

NICE! Good call Jon!

[@robertbarlow6715]

We have several planes I had to go look at my cub to see if flap rods were in mine. We fly on dirt road that is in our peanut field. We fly Cubs with big tires our landings throw dust looks so cool. A Draco ultimate combo we ordered want be ready till January 2022. Like your show.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

NICE!

[@sergioarmartinho]

nice video!!!! thanks for show us how to put flaps working!!!! which one is easier to fly, Timber EVO or Carbon cub s2 with flaps?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Timber Evo is a better plane by almost every measure, but the Carbon Cub S2 1.3m is by design, a trainer plane...it has more added trainer features, some of which make it more complex than it needs to be, and also the Timber has lights and 3-4S compatible. Get the Timber, but if you don't know how to fly, start with the Carbon Cub S2

[@wrxs1781]

Good video, and camera crew does a good job.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks, she sure does!!!

[@antonl1894]

A person at the flying club had this plane but the first version. The wingstruts expanded so much because of heat that it became all wavy. But then one day he decided to fly it in 20 mph wind and he lost it. Never found it. He really liked it as the beginner he is

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That's no good!!

[@gbro8822]

Outstanding as always, thank you guys. Hey your grass is coming in nice.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks, and it totally IS!!! We're loving the way it turned out. We spend about $500 on seed, and about $1700 on the tiller, so we're still about $3000-7000+ less than the landscapers wanted :)

[@RGunth]

I'm a beginner and just purchased this plane. I think I could manually set the flaps to FULL without getting a servo. I haven't flow the plane yet because of the weather here in Northern Minnesota where the high temp for today was -8 degrees. Really enjoy your videos!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Don't do it. You should just wait and see how you like it. Flaps are AWESOME, but fixed flaps...I wouldn't recommend it. We know you're pain...it's -9 F outside, and I get to take the trash out - YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Spring, where are you?!?!?

[@RGunth]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you for your advice. It will be easy to set the flaps back. Waiting for the weather to warm up a little before flying. -18 at present. The dog will hardly get off the porch to go pottie. LOL

[@williamreape4326]

Thanks for your opinion on buying a transmitter at first. I'm ready to get back into flying rc but now there's rtf . When I was flying it was all balsa and monocoat. I really appreciate your help.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You're welcome, and good luck! So much to learn in a short time. One quick piece of advice, don't over-think your purchase TOO much. They money is a real factor for most (me included) but these things change all the time, so if you get a quality transmitter, they'll be good for years. I can still use some of my oldest ones to fly my newer planes...my point is, don't get too caught up trying to make the "future-proof" decision, since that doesn't exist today ;)

[@Topa67]

Thanks so much for making this video just got the plane and made the assembly so easy. Awesome plane

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad it helped! Good luck with your maiden!

[@Topa67]

@@BrianPhillipsRC flys amazing! First experience with safe as I’m getting back into the hobby, and love it

[@bendrixbailey1430]

I have one of these. Purchased the float kit too. After some experience with the stock plane I’ll add flaps and the floats. With floats the flaps will be very helpful as it will shorten takeoff and landing considerably, as it does in my 185 aircraft. Although I have no experience with flaps on this model, I can offer some insight from lots of experience with full sized aircraft. Take off: Almost never take off with full flaps. Full flaps are a drag machine intended to kill forward momentum. I never use full flaps on takeoff from grass or pavement. Half flaps are also sometimes labeled takeoff flaps for that reason. On water, with floats, full flaps are used because the extra lift helps lighten the aircraft and break surface tension. Once flying and at an altitude of 10 feet or so flaps are slowly reduced so that the aircraft can speed up in ground effect before attempting to climb. So why not climb on full flaps? Because the drag of full flaps the plane will slow down dramatically if the engine quits, and it will not glide engine out except at a very high rate of sink. So one of two things will happen after a low altitude engine failure. The pilot will either fail to react with lightning quick reflexes and the plane will enter a low level stall / spin, and that is deadly. Nobody ever survives a stall/spin. OR, the pilot will react and get the nose down but the rate of sink will be so high that the landing on water will be destructive. The plane will flip over with you inside and probably unconscious. That is why full flaps are not deployed except during landing (and operations) when the landing is assured and with sufficient airspeed. And as mentioned during water takeoff. What has this got to do with model aircraft? It provides some perspective of exactly what flaps do and when and why they are deployed. My plan is to get the plane at altitude and do lots of experimentation with flaps before attempting to take off or land. I’m expecting the flaps to accelerate the stall and make recovery more difficult. I also expect to need more up elevator to counter the effect of the drag; and more power too! Thanks for the long and detailed explanation. Sure beats the job Horizon did.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Bendrix!

[@GoofballFlyer]

After playing around quite bit with the new-to-me NX8 I decided to try some mixing on this airplane. I mixed throttle/pitch, flaps/pitch (needed 2 mixes, one for takeoff and one for landing flaps), aileron/rudder and aileron/elevator. I also moved the servo elevator control rod out to the last hole to increase elevator throw. Then I added 30% elevator expo. it takes some playing with rates to get everything balanced, but it's made a huge difference in experienced mode. I'll never fly it again with the DX-S that came with the airplane. I may make a video with all the settings details!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Tom - welcome to the club of infinite adjustments!!! Now you GET why I want to show the WHOLE radio setup ;) You could make a million adjustments and still need more - LOL - you're like me! Not sure if you know this, but I work on Industrial Scales for a living, and I have to make analog adjustments on scales to make the readings right, and Legal for Trade. Generally, we deal with a 1/10th of a percent tolerance, or HALF that if we've just finished repairs to a given scale. This means I'm necessarially a picky SOB...and that's why I make a good living. Most people see a number, and think it's fixed...I see a number and KNOW it's broken - LOL!!!

[@GoofballFlyer]

@@BrianPhillipsRC my background is economics and statistics. All numbers are surrounded by a haze of uncertainty. LOL

[@wilengle8468]

Just ordered the S2 plus the Servo motor to add flaps. Also bought the 8 Channel Spectrum Radio (Programmable)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good!

[@rcnitro001]

I love my carbon cub when I do actually fly it. I did wonder if putting a longer servo arm will actually give me more flap adjustment? My flaps do not work as well as yours do. Nice video thanks for putting it up

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Maybe your servo is weaker? If you put a longer arm on it, the strength of the servo will not necessarily change. I noticed my flaps didn't really move super free, and this was really loading down the servo. Might try moving it to "wiggle it free" :)

[@elijah7924]

This plane made me come up with a new RC word.....SNAP RUDDER....amazing change of direction...almost immediately.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I also forgot my lower screw - LOL!!!

[@craigschray4486]

Great video. Just assembled this plane. Haven't even flown it yet and I'm going to be taking the wing back off and upgrading to flaps. 😂 Servo, servo checker and double sided tape arrived yesterday. Thumbs down to horizon for not adding the what... maybe $2 servo with the model.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I agree they should just put it in there...it's not a super "cheap" plane, but I get it...there's always a limit to everything ;)

[@theleadingedgeaviation]

Yay now I don’t have to spend 300 dollars on a better transmitter just to put flaps on my cub! Thanks for the great video!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You bet! BUT if you want them to work well, you may want a programmable transmitter ;) If you get one, please consider the NX8 - it's AMAZING so far.

[@ederdmann7347]

Brian you will have better control with your DX18. I wanted to see if you had trouble like I did getting it working. It wasn’t hard just a pain because the GPS takes up 3 channels on the older version of the plane. I had to unplug the GPS and turn off the panic button in the channel assign menu and move things around to get Aux 2 to show Flaps on my DX9. Still works without doing all that but I just wanted all my flap settings in one place.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I will be doing that tutorial soon. This plane needs a better radio ;)

[@mikewatkins978]

Brian, I installed the flap servo and connected it to ch8 in the flight controller, the flaps work in all flight modes using the DXs transmitter that came with my RTF kit, also the plane flies more like it should when the flaps are set to the factory settings, it won't "Balloon" out of control like yours does, instead they don't slow the plane down near as much and add more lift so you can back off the throttle to slow the plane for a more controlled landing. Your prop balancing method leaves some margin for error, you should use a balance tool and do it correctly.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I did a video setting this plane up with the DXS, and the DX18 both. the balloon is pretty extreme.

[@flyingchickenrc1653]

Great video Brian and crew

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@nitanylion1018]

On the Dxe to reverse the channel hold both sticks up and in and you will enter program mode and you can use the aileron stick to switch to different channels and push down on the elevator stick to reverse it and the orange light will turn red. Don’t know if it is the same on the new DXS but the transmitters look very similar and I would assume it has the same process

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That would be pretty helpful for the flaps switch! Thanks ;) I also thought that we could hook up to the PC to reprogram them....but I don't know for sure.

[@CaptFrank2001]

Love your video's. You and your wife are doing a great job. Question, I have the BNF version (installed flaps) with a NX8. If I set the Aircraft type to "Normal/Normal" SAFE works fine, all three modes. However I have NO Flap menu so I can't put in the Elevator correction for mid & full Flaps. If I set the Aircraft type to "1 Aileron/1 Flap" I then get the Flap menu & can make the Elevator corrections but the plane is locked in Basic SAFE mode only.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You can make a REASSIGNMENT for the FLAP channel. This will help you get around this goofy issue....P.S. We did a video where we set up this plane with another Computerized Tx and we had issues too.

[@kenflyergc]

...love all your videos you and camera crew make .....haven't bought one yet but just got thru watching the Carbon Cub S2 1.3 flap installation video and wonder does the "flap linkage" come with both the BNF and RTF versions? I searched on-line at Horizon and didn't see one that could be ordered. Thanks Kenny

[@johnroot183]

Thanks for the video Brian. I am going to be buying a eight channel radio and doing the flap upgrade to my carbon cub s+. Just can't make my mind up if I want to make my maiden flight now or wait until after the flap upgrade. And if I want to use GPS and auto land. I am a new pilot with very little flight experience.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Don't add GPS. It will just cause heart ache...in my experience....learn to fly without that aid. You'll be fine. Practice on a simulator if you're really concerned.

[@lyech777]

awesome. thanks!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You bet!

[@JustinConsistent]

Thank you for the great information! That was a lot of help for a beginner. Don't sweat the jokes; if you aren't having fun the videos won't be as fun.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!!

[@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710]

Hello, you mentioned " flying for forty years " and it brought to mind a crop-dusting pilot. It got me thinking should you ever build a crop-dusting plane besides the " Cub " ( KZbin video: Extreme Crop Dusting 1957 ). An Ag ( something or other), when you fly it would do so as if you were dusting your yard with stall turns and such at each end of the pass. It would look good I think. Also, with other planes could you do " Immelmann's, Chandelles and Cuban 8s and square loops etc."?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

WOW - those cub crop dusters were crazy!!!

[@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Hello, absolutely. I had forgotten, I remembered it that they were spraying coffee beans but it was cotton. I'm glad you liked it. I believe that video predates the term " nap of the Earth flying ". " Hey! "

[@symo251264]

Cheers Brian thanks for the advice mate

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You bet - Thanks for watching Symo!

[@andrewschinsky6977]

Just stumbled upon your video since recently getting into the RC airplane world. Love your stuff, super informative, and I appreciate the subtle humor and undertones mixed in your reviews. Thanks for sharing all that you do! I bought the Carbon Cub S2 RTF, but have yet to fly it. Still working on the RF Simulator and waiting for better weather (Michigan). I am curious since I only have the DXS transmitter for now, will installing the flaps on the Cub really provide a noticeable benefit for a beginner pilot on this plane? Or, should I use the Cub as my beginner plane, and then when I upgrade to a better TX (DX8+) and get more planes (Turbo Timber Evo 1.5 and many more, lol) consider learning with and programming flaps then?

[@sanchitoman1293]

Can you explain more about balancing the prop? How did you know something was wrong? What causes it? Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Balancing the prop helps to make the motor run with greater efficiency. You can HEAR or FEEL that it's unbalanced, but kinda hard to explain in text... When I balance props, I usually just use clear TAPE. This is not the best way, but it'll do for this type of model, but for a more permanent solution, you would need to remove material from the heavy side, vs the light side, but this is a lot harder, and I just don't care to waste my time on certain planes. If it was a $10,000 ARF with a huge gas engine, I'd do it ;) BUT on a trainer where the prop might only last a few weeks, I'll probably just do the tape thing... I've shared on how to do it a few different times, but I'll elaborate here very briefly. Start by powering up the plane, and transmitter, and run the prop at or near full throttle while holding the plane in a safe way. Then feel or hear the noise... Now grab about 1/4 inch of clear tape and put it on the leading edge of one side of the prop...at the TIP, folding it about half and half, so it's not going to catch air... Now run up the motor. Was it better? Was it worse? If better...put another 1/4" on top of the last....better or worse...and repeat until it gets WORSE...then remove the LAST piece. Should take about 2-4 times and you'll have a MASSIVE improvement. It doesn't need to be perfect, but the more perfect you can get it, the better. Now that you know which side is heavy, and which side is light, you can start a more permanent solution, or just fly the plane. It's easy, but I've shown it about 20 times...so we don't show it every time ;) Good luck!

[@sanchitoman1293]

@@BrianPhillipsRC wow, thanks for the quick reply!

[@JB-gk6tg]

Loving the videos here in the UK ! Just bought a cub s2 so I’m really interested in how you’ve done the flap addition and basic flying 👍

[@christianrindlisbacher7185]

Your innuendo s are priceless

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank ya, thank you very much...

[@symo251264]

Hi Brian Thanks for the list , I think as a first time flyer it will be the Sports Cub 2 , like the Habu and Apprentice but price wise it's £152 whereas the others £300+. Thanks for your time

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Totally get it! Keep it cheap for the first plane, and then don't forget to buy some glue ;) You'll want it, so might as well... Here's some ideas, but you can get it all over the place... Get a Foam Safe CA and Kicker - you will thank me later. You don't think you'll need it now, but believe me. I used it LAST NIGHT ;) Kicker amzn.to/2CQf24D CA Foam Safe Med amzn.to/2E2l29z CA Med amzn.to/2D0x18i CA Thin amzn.to/2COE6sw Mucilage bit.ly/3fdfzQp CA Foam Safe bit.ly/30UbDPL Kicker bit.ly/2PRd5Mm Foam2Foam bit.ly/30RNnh0

[@symo251264]

Oh by the way , can't believe you need glue the way you fly . By far the best I've seen

[@thefisherman1127]

I have this plane with the DX8e and my first flight it was stuck in green beginner mode and the flaps actuated in a hard bank with some elevator and the plane would try to dive at the ground from too much bank and stalling in a turn. I now am going to inhibit the channel for panic recovery to have flaps along with SAFE Select

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Check out my Programmable Radio setup on this plane...it was not as easy as expected, and you can copy what I did if you wish.

[@thefisherman1127]

Brian Phillips I watched the video and I called Spektrum about my flaps not working in unison with SAFE Select and they said it was a faulty flight controller and are sending me a new one free of charge, but I 100% will follow your video since yours worked fantastic once everything was figured out 👍

[@tedphillips7727]

Sound is great. Nice video.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank you very much! It is great! It would be better with my Dx18, but just want to show it stock for people buying this without all the goodies I have.

[@bendrixbailey1430]

Emax 3104 ES3104 Meatal gear servo. Nice. Where do you like to get these extra parts from?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Emax Servos amzn.to/2KNstdw - this is what I usually recommend...since I can't always find the bigger ones.

[@bendrixbailey1430]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the help Brian. I used that link and bought the four pack. Parts junkie here....

[@russko118]

omg thanks super useful!

[@FlankerTanker]

The flaps on mine made it climb almost vertical....i have now mixed in 20% and 30% down elevator ..with the flaps....

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yep, same here. Computerized transmitter makes all the difference.

[@steelyerface21]

Brian what did you mean when you said you would "strip" the landing gear when coming down before the flaps were installed? I find this plane is super bouncey so far without flaps, it rarely tracks straight down the runway and wants to get squirly

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I would need to listen to my comments in context. Can you Time Stamp it? Not sure what I was saying, OR MIS-SAYING... sorry!

[@chuckneil2184]

Good Videographer!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks!

[@FalconWing1813]

I had the red version of this plane. But sold it. Taken off was always tricky was all over the place . lol how does the ground handling compare to the turbo timber?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Very poor, compared to the Turbo Timber 1.5m

[@ButlerPA1130]

“We’ve got good penetration” Great instructional video!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sure do ;) Thanks!

[@jackclemons4098]

Why can’t I use my dx6e with flaps? What channels are used? Would there be a way to use them anyway? 4 channels for the basics and the another channel for beginner, medium and advanced safe. Wouldn’t I have my 6th channel for flaps?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

It's on channel 8 or some such non-sense...sorry, the LAS took up a spot - very stupid I agree...sorry Jack. If you want, you CAN replace the Rx with something else and can do it then.

[@jackclemons4098]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Rx is a receiver right?

[@jackclemons4098]

Would the receiver that comes with the dx6e work(ar620)? Thank you for your reply

[@RAULBALDERAS1]

Thank you Brian nice job

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks!

[@robertmontgomery7133]

Did you ever find a way to put a mix in with the flaps and elevator ?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Use a Computerized Transmitter.

[@ManuelGonzalez-kq1xh]

Brian, thank you very much for you detailed videos, which encourage me to use the flaps on the Carbon Cub S2. I will buy the Spektrum DX6e and I want to know if after doing the bind with the DX6e I could continue using the original DXs in case another people used it. Thanks. Manuel Gonzalez

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I would NOT get the DX6e!!! If you must get a DXe...make sure to get at least 8 channels or you will be very disappointed.

[@kevosrcadventures9019]

Hey Brian wat made the Cub stall twice like that I seen in the video?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Probably me...

[@s.horton4282]

I know with my Carbon Cub S+ with full landing flaps and I forgot I had it on beginner mode and almost drove it straight into the ground! I was able to switch it back to advanced mode last minute and recover it. I actually just keep it on take off flaps and find I can control it much better. Maybe it's me, but I feel there is more of a learning curb with flaps and this plane. I still love the plane, but it's definitely tricky with the landing flaps for me.

[@Daniel_SWE]

What transmitter are you using with the Carbon Cub S+? I just got the DX8 and Can't get the thing to bind to the plane.

[@s.horton4282]

​@@Daniel_SWE I got a DX8 gen 2. I have to say I didn't have any problems getting it to bind to the plane. It was getting use to the new radaio that took me a little time, since I initially flew my cub with the DXe that came with it. I had been out of the hobby for 25 years and am trying to learn all this new technology. I was used to flying balsa glow fuel with an FM transmitter that wasn't programmable. I assume you tried binding it both ways using the bind plug and pressing the bind button on transmitter and/or going through the menu on the transmitter and selecting bind that way?

[@Daniel_SWE]

@@s.horton4282 I think I finaly got them to bind and downloaded the Carbon Cub setup from Spektrums

[@Daniel_SWE]

Webpage thinking it would take care of the programming. It didn't but atleast I got a throttle. 😁

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

yeah, that's a scary feeling!!! I'll do a video of the programmable radio setup, if you're curious...sounds like you've already got it flying, but there's so much to lean in that regard, especially if you're straight out of a 25 year hiatus. So much has changed, hasn't it!??!?!

[@greycarter6119]

YES!!!!! The dxs works with flaps! I don't have to buy a $350 transmitter. Yay!

[@takenpictures]

I know this is the same air frame as the old 1.3m Sport Cub, but from all the videos I have watched, the Sport Cub seems to be a better flying plane. I love my Sport Cub. It was the first plane I bought after learning to fly on the little UMX Sport Cub. I finally got a CZ Cub. It fly's like a big ass version of the old 1.3m Sport Cub. Have you thought about swapping the 18A ESC and putting in a 30A and then using the 9.5x7.5 prop and adapter, from the old PZ T-28? It really wakes the plane up. Pair it with a 2200mah 3s pack and you can still get 8 minutes of non scale, silly Cub flying. Good Times!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm still not ready to say the old one flies better, only since I'm flying from the DXs....but the old one I flew, and the Carbon Cub S+GPS (V1) flew REALLY good...but both were flown on Programmable Transmitters ;) I think when I pair this up with my DX18...it'll be a new plane ;)

[@Jack-gy7cs]

I've had my Carbon Cub S+ for several weeks and I put flaps on it. ($15 for the servo) Today was the maiden flight. Oh boy! Nearly couldn't keep it in the air. Brought it down and adjusted the elevator for a lot of up trim. Now it flies so docile it's almost boring compared to the UMX Aero Commander. Wish I'd flown it way sooner but I was too unsure of myself and didn't want to crash such a big plane. Let's hear it for FLAPS...yay.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

YEAH - FLAPS!!! Now that you know...why the heck didn't Horizon Hobby just put them in stock, right??!?!??!??!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That is GOOFY

[@MarcChristensen]

I didn't see a link to the servo tester you use. Did I miss it? Do you have one you recommend?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Here's the link ;) XBC Checker & Servo Tester bit.ly/3e8mnA6

[@offylibertylover4868]

Would be interesting to see you bind this up to the DX18 and see if you could optimize some of the flight characteristics. I'm curious if this plane is good for more than a beginner if you say love the Cub look but don't want a big one. I think I'm interested, and like you, I would avoid the GPS and landing sensor.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I have the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - it is AWESOME. As for binding to the DX18. I will...just haven't yet. It will be a short tutorial video, but want to give the RTF a chance. Most won't get this with a programmable radio, so I want to show "the real deal" :)

[@BigSlimRC]

first off, i love your videos. Very informative! I have a question that you may, or may not, be able to answer. I have bought a carbon cub s2 and a dx6e. After updating the the Dx6e, an AUX2 became available on my servo set up. What would happen if i were to move the smart ESC over to the say channel 7 on the RX. Could i then use the the channel 5, or 6, on the rx for flaps and control the SAFE with another switch since it is not operating a servo? From what i understand, the new NX6 would allow this. I understand that the NX is a much nicer radio than the Dx6e. Might this be a way around the need for a 7+ channel TX? I can't seem to find anything about AUX2 on the internet, and nobody is talking about it in any forums. Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I think you might be able to do it, but just BE CAREFUL you don't lose your Throttle signal. I haven't tried it, so you might be a trend setter (I did a few projects like this back in the day - LOL - where Horizon said it was impossible, time and time again, then I did it)... If I were you, I'd be thinking HARD about buying THIS Rx and just setting it up in STEAD of the Factory Rx and Flight Controller.... AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You can also just plop another Rx in there, bind it up ALSO (yes, you can bind TWO Rx'es to the same Tx if in the same protocol) then you could possibly do this, but they will BOTH respond ;)

[@BigSlimRC]

@@BrianPhillipsRC its looking more and more like that is what i need to do. Thanks for the info.

[@Deano54]

Hey Brian, I am a.senior citizen.and.looking to.get into RC planes. Should I stay with the carbon cub s2 or or shoot for the carbon z cub as.my first plane and a good 8 or 9 channel receiver as ultimately I want to get in to larger warbirds. Many thanks❗

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Have you ever flown an RC plane before? If so, you could go for the Carbon Z Cub, but that's going to be a LOT of money...probably close to $1000 to get in the air - YIKES!!! - BUT if you go with the Carbon Cub S2 You'll be getting a Ready to Fly plane, which is admittedly about HALF the plane compared to the Carbon Z Cub... I only say, that's a lot of money if you're not sure how to fly...I wouldn't ever recommend the Carbon Z Cub to a beginner...it's a high performance plane, and it could be pretty dangerous (16" prop - POWER HOUSE!!!), whereas the 1.3m Carbon Cub S2 is fairly innocuous. Aircraft Carbon Cub S2 (RTF) 1.3m - bit.ly/32UawRn (Comes with everything to get in the air) OR Carbon-Z Cub SS (BNF) 2.1m bit.ly/2OqQllK Spektrum Transmitters - bit.ly/2OwKprB (Pick a DX9 or NX8 or NX10 - the NX are brand new, FYI - I haven't even opened mine) 5000mAh 6S 30C Lipo Battery - bit.ly/2Orca4L S1100 Charger - bit.ly/3j3YJpz Accessories - bit.ly/30i7Biq (you'll need an IC3 to IC5 adapter to charge that big battery)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Dean, I'm sure this was just a typo, but when you make a PERIOD between words, your comment gets held as though you were sending a link to another web site. I know you weren't, and it was just an honest mistake, but wanted you to understand why I missed your comment for a few days....when they get "Held for review" I sometimes miss them, which is what happened in your case. Example... This is what happened.To your comment. (KZbin thinks "happened.To" is a link to a website...)

[@Deano54]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry for the inconvenience. This is my first plane so I purchased a Carbon Cub S2. Your videos are very informative. Thanks

[@wilengle8468]

Yes Brian You're CRAZY..... LoL but you're still a decent Pilot

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks, I think ;)

[@Savage_Offroad]

Did you mix in any down elevator. On half and full flap settings the plane balloons like crazy and will pitch up to the point where I have to give full down elevator to keep the nose down if I give it any throttle

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

When I set it up with my Programmable (DX18) Yes...since there's no way to do it on the DXs... BUT YOU CAN control the flaps on the DXs.

[@miniatureenginesandmore9906]

Do you find that you don’t have enough elevator authority I think those front tires I think cause to much drag do you can’t flare as much I’m changing mine to dubro low bounce tires that are 3 1/2 once they might be a bit smaller than the stock one but not to wide

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Not sure I'd say that, but I also used the inside hole so that the elevator moves more. Also, in SAFE, the elevator will not move as much...maybe that's your issue???

[@miniatureenginesandmore9906]

Brian Phillips what Is the difference if safe is off

[@GhostbearRc]

Thanks for this video, I was wanting to put flaps on my carbon s+ but couldn't find the servo horizon recommends. The metal gear servo you used I'll be looking to get for mine

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Seems to be fairly similar (probably better, to be totally honest), and it's about the same price, plus IN STOCK ;) Go for it ;)

[@reefguy4387]

Hi Brian, Do you think its worth adding the flaps on this plane?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If you have a programmable Transmitter, YES....if not (if you're using the DXs or DXe), the balloon is almost too much to make them helpful.

[@MassMangoMurder]

I own the original version released over 5 plus years ago: the Carbon Cub SS with GPS. One of the greatest planes I’ve ever flown aside from the Timber line. I’ve never used gps or flaps and always had a great time.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

The Geo fencing is a one way ticket to the need for a fresh pair of drawers ;) LOL

[@buddymoe1718]

Question on the flap install would it been better to use a digital servo or the one you used is ok ?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't care. Digital is a gimmick for an application like this...I still can't even tell you the ACTUAL difference.

[@scottn404]

Thank you for the video, could you recommend an entry level transmitter that would have mixing. I am kinda new to flying, I have the mini apprentice S and this plane (and now with flaps). I usually fly in beginner mode or sometimes intermediate but scared to try the flaps in those modes for fear of not having enough elevator authority LOL. Thanks again !!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes I can. The same one I recommend to advanced pilots. Don't waste your money on a middle step... NX6 bit.ly/3eqEn7M

[@scottn404]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank You

[@EJ-74]

Hey Brian have you seen the Habu trainer jet RTF Looks pretty cool I seen it on RC Sailers channel Great video as always ✌️ Im with camera crew I'm not a expert but the flaps look to be working fine with that controller 😁

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I have it coming ;)

[@EJ-74]

@@BrianPhillipsRC HaHa Cool can't wait to see the unboxing and maiden ✌️

[@lacrossewisconsin]

Can you show a video how to set up Crow brakes?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Not on this one, but we have done it a few times ;) I think we did CROW on the Ranger 1.2m from a while back... kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4vJoaaDjrt-hpY ...but not 100% sure we share the WHOLE process. Gotta remember, this particular (and in the Habu STS) Rx and flight controller, is GOOFY. It's NOT easy to work with, and if you want Crow, you will probably want to rip out that overly complex Rx, and plop in an AR630 or AR8360T and get ready for a full reset - BUT it will work perfectly and be AWESOME! Pretty sure we did FULL Crow on this Cessna 182, if you want to check out the Radio Setup part... kzbin.info/www/bejne/maGvdHiol96Blbc

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

We setup CROW on this Fox 2.3m as well - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqPXYauCZtGaedk