Please click "Read more" for links and more information. Visit www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=Turbo%20Timber%20SWS%20Level for more information on the Turbo Timber SWS 2.0m. The Turbo Timber SWS (Sport Wood Series) 2.0m is the largest E-flite Timber model yet! It’s based on the design of the foam Turbo Timber 1.5m models but features strong, stiff and lightweight built-up wood construction. The balsa and lite-ply airframe arrives factory-finished with genuine UltraCote film covering and is mostly factory assembled so you can have it flying in almost no time - without the use of glue or special tools. A two-piece wing makes it easier to store and transport, and it’s equipped with functional flaps for shorter takeoffs and landings along with improved low-speed performance. Plus you have the option to utilize crow and/or full-span flaperons for even better STOL capabilities. The BNF (Bind-N-Fly) Basic version is equipped with six factory-installed digital and metal-geared Spektrum A6380 servos, a 4S to 6S compatible Avian 5055-500Kv outrunner motor, and a 100-amp Smart ESC that can provide a variety of power system related telemetry data with Smart and non-Smart batteries via compatible Spektrum AirWare equipped transmitters. It’s also equipped with an AR8360T receiver that provides full-range, real-time telemetry data including overall battery voltage, current draw, ESC temp, and more - plus motor reversing for special ground handling and other capabilities - along with the benefits of AS3X and optional-use SAFE Select technologies. Or, the ARF (Almost Ready-To-Fly) version is ready for installation of the electronics and power system you prefer! Both versions feature simple and durable aluminum landing gear with oversized tundra-style wheels and are also ready to accept the optional Carbon-Z Float and Mounting Sets (both sold separately). They also feature factory-installed LED navigation and landing lights along with transparent windows for added scale-like looks, and a convenient top hatch for fast and easy battery changes. And it all combines to make this a great first-ever “wood”, everyday sport flying and aerobatic capable, plus large-scale Timber model for intermediate to experienced pilots! Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and Twitter for more content! facebook.com/HorizonHobby instagram.com/horizon_hobby/ www.tiktok.com/@horizon.hobby twitter.com/Horizon_Hobby
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
If you don't like this release please be considerate and respectful if you comment here! You may not like it, but there are many people who do (see the many positive comments here so far!). And for those who might have the urge to think/say we "never release anything different!", keep in mind this may be "another Timber" - all of which are all-time best sellers because so many people like and buy them (and often buy multiples of them...just like Cubs, Sticks, P-51s, T-28s, F-16s, etc.!) - but it's also WOOD and there are no other ARF models like this that can be assembled without glue...nor are there any other wood BNF models available that are anything like this! Also, the second paragraph below is a good reminder: We typically release upwards of two dozen new airplane models each year, from ultra micro to giant scale, from trainers and STOL-capable models to warbirds and jets. Around half or more of those are ALL-NEW designs, and the remainder are usually NEW updates/upgrades of previously available models. We try to "sequence" them so we don't announce/release too many updated/upgraded versions of previous models in a row, but that's not always possible. And if anyone doesn't like our recent, this or any future announcements/releases, they should wait a few weeks to see what the next one is...because it could be COMPLETELY different and something they like/want much more! We've got some ALL-NEW jets, civilian scale, STOL, 3D, sport and other models - in foam and wood - in the works and coming soon. For added reference, these are the models we've released in the last ~18 months: • ALL-NEW E-flite Habu SS 50mm EDF (announced 7/21/2022) • ALL-NEW E-fllite Beechcraft D18 1.5m (announced 9/8/2022) • NEW E-flite F-16 Thunderbirds 80mm EDF (announced 9/15/2022) • NEW Hangar 9 Fun Scale PT-19 PNP (announced 9/22/2022) • NEW E-flite UMX P-51D Voodoo (announced 9/29/2022) • NEW RealFlight Evolution (announced 10/13/2022) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Twin Otter (announced 12/8/2022) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite P-51D Mustang 1.2m "Cripes A'Mighty 3rd" (announced 1/12/2023) • ALL-NEW Tower Hobbies ASW 28 2.0m (announced 1/13/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite Carbon-Z T-28 Trojan 2.0m (announced 1/26/2023) • ALL-NEW Hangar 9 Pawnee Brave 20cc, 87" ARF (announced 2/2/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Slow Ultra Stick 1.2m (announced 3/2/2023) • ALL-NEW Hangar 9 Aermacchi MB-339 60-85N Turbine Jet, 84” ARF (announced 3/16/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite UMX Turbo Timber Evolution (announced 3/23/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 1 (announced 3/30/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Ultra Stick 1.1m (announced 4/6/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Twin Timber 1.6m (announced 4/13/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Air Tractor (announced 5/11/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 2 (announced 5/23/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite EC-1500 Twin 1.5m (announced 6/1/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite P-47 Thunderbolt 1.2m (announced 6/15/2023) • NEW Blade Inductrix (announced 7/20/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 3 (announced 7/27/2023) • ALL-NEW Blade Fusion 550 (announced 8/3/2023) • ALL-NEW SR-71 Blackbird Twin 40mm EDF (announced 8/17/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite Viper 70mm EDF (announced 9/21/2023) • ALL-NEW HobbyZone Apprentice STOL S 700mm (announced 10/19/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) HobbyZone Duet S 525mm (announced 10/26/2023) • NEW Tower Hobbies Seawind 1.4m (announced 10/27/2023) • NEW HobbyZone Sport Cub S 2 615mm (announced 11/2/2023) • NEW Tower Hobbies DHC-2 Beaver 1.5m (announced 11/3/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 4 (announced 11/9/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite UMX WACO (announced 11/9/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Conscendo (announced 11/16/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) F-16 Thunderbirds 70mm EDF (announced 12/7/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Turbo Timber SWS 2.0m (announced 1/18/2024)
@vupilot11 ай бұрын
Yes, more wood models please, in 4S size
@Mike.-hr3is6 ай бұрын
I've got to have this one!!! I bought the first 1.5m Timber when I came out.. It's 400+ flights in and going strong with only servo upgrades and is easily the best flying and stable airframe ive flown... This one being balsa has got to fly like a stick of butter....
@cgcrc Жыл бұрын
Hello Horizon, thank you for adding the 2.0m Turbo Timber to your fleet. I very much appreciate you offering it in the sport wood series. I have a hangar of float planes that I have converted over to electric over the past few years and wanted to add a Turbo Timber (Beaver) style model to the fleet. Your Turbo Timber on order it will fit in just fine....... Thanks again for your time, effort and commitment to our hobby.
@ModelAV8RChannel Жыл бұрын
Awesome airplane! Bigger flies better, and in this case... so does Balsa!
@stevelhamon2031 Жыл бұрын
Please bring back some of the classic planes in this series! Kaos, Skylark and many others.
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
We're definitely considering that! And in the meantime Tower Hobbies does offer a Kaos 60 ARF that often goes out of stock/backorder between shipments but is still available: www.towerhobbies.com/product/kaos-60-aerobatic-gp-ep-62-arf/TOWA2058.html
@ramonmedina1974 Жыл бұрын
Cool everyday model. Not too small and made of wood! Looks very valuable!
@PhilBender612 Жыл бұрын
Oh Wow! The Timber is now a Balsa model too, this looks great HH.
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
It's a timber Timber ;)
@PhilBender612 Жыл бұрын
@@HorizonHobbyProducts lol
@PropplaneRC Жыл бұрын
How come we don't see it land with the regular gear a single time ???
@MotCogs Жыл бұрын
HH Video guy here - Great question :) it just didn't fit the story I was trying to tell in the video, that said it lands just as well as any other timber IMO, and RC Saylors and Brian Philips both have full flying videos of it you can check out.
@airhammer6203 Жыл бұрын
and TwoBrothers RC :)
@MotCogs Жыл бұрын
even better!@@airhammer6203
@arleighburke9095 Жыл бұрын
Brian Phillips is nearly impossible to watch.
@blueline308 Жыл бұрын
Try not giving so many away and lowering the prices.@@MotCogs
@BashTillBroken Жыл бұрын
Price seems a bit high for a balsa even but if it’s truly as beefy as I have been told it will be worth it and we should also consider it’s a 6s system and hand built compared to injection foam and the time to design it from the ground up structuraly wise. So considering that the price is reasonable. Can’t wait to see more balsa modes from eflite/HH Or maybe even some fiberglass or wood edf’s.
@johnsons74thsquadron74 Жыл бұрын
This is just amazing!! Outstanding work Horizon!
@brookekathryn1980 Жыл бұрын
Can you bring back the yak 54 carbon Z!
@TemporalOasis10 ай бұрын
Anyone know if the foam turbo timber floats will work with this?
@stevelhamon2031 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a wood Kaos! I would also like to see a E flite FPV aircraft!
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
Tower Hobbies offers a wood Kaos 60 ARF that often goes out of stock/backorder between shipments but is still available: www.towerhobbies.com/product/kaos-60-aerobatic-gp-ep-62-arf/TOWA2058.html
@MayorOfStupidTown Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this!!! The color scheme looks beautiful in balsa. I already have the umx, 1.5m, and the 110” timber. I will definitely have this one soon!
@mikesullivan5851 Жыл бұрын
Why did you not use the same wing connectors as the the evolution ?
@MotCogs Жыл бұрын
More powerful power system calls for a bigger connector or you run the risk of overheating the connector which is bad news in the air! and it runs 6S which predominantly use the larger EC5/IC5/XT90 connectors
@mikesullivan5851 Жыл бұрын
@@MotCogs I should have specified , I was talking about the wings , I like the nice all in one servo connectors , 2 instead of 6
@MayorOfStupidTown Жыл бұрын
That definitely would have been a nice touch
@JAREDSCHUMANN Жыл бұрын
Would like to see the 30cc timber come back
@LyroLife11 ай бұрын
Yes, but would you buy it?
@JAREDSCHUMANN11 ай бұрын
@@LyroLife I'd probably buy 2 of them at a time.
@AL-RCjunkie Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! This'll be my 1st woody, for sure 👍 😂
@NeedSpeedRC Жыл бұрын
A different scheme would have been nice To differentiate from the foam. But balsa is great!
@flyinwalenda Жыл бұрын
Yes, it always seems red & white is the "go to" color scheme for a lot of planes. Must be the least expensive colors to produce ! At least they went with different colors on a few of the Sticks.
@PhilBender612 Жыл бұрын
@@flyinwalenda it's the easiest to see in the air for orientation of the plane.
@Hanger995 Жыл бұрын
we really want a carbon Z cub ss made from balsa! these are going to sell like hot cake..
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
We currently offer the Hangar 9 Carbon Cub 15cc ARF that has a 90" wingspan so it's just a little larger than the Carbon-Z Cub SS: www.horizonhobby.com/product/carbon-cub-15cc-arf-90/HAN5065.html
@miksterr Жыл бұрын
Some multi-pin connectors for all the wing / servo & light plugs would have been nice.
@JeffinLowerAlabama Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work Team Horizon, wow. Just amazing. Jeff in LA USA
@aragorn318 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to come out with a new Timber X with top-loading hatch and improved gear!
@HorizonHobbyProducts11 ай бұрын
;)
@JoshFoord Жыл бұрын
BIGGER wheels boys.
@Bruc3the6287 ай бұрын
Can i put a gas motor in it?
@ferociousfrankie Жыл бұрын
Any upcoming night flyers?
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
Yes ;)
@modelaircraft65765 ай бұрын
Is about time horizon bring back the composite balsa builder kit models
@HorizonHobbyProducts5 ай бұрын
Do you mean composite or wood kits? Typically composite kits included molded fuselages and other parts. And generally speaking the market for wood kits is very limited now. There is more interest in/demand for composite kits and models, but when it comes to wood-built models, there are only a handful of manufacturers that still remain due to the limited interest/demand. That said, we have plans to introduce many more wood-built (and potentially composite!) ARF, PNP and BNF Basic models in the future (because there is far more interest in/demand for those completion levels of wood models)!
@Abelrcplanes Жыл бұрын
What about the aeroscout 2.0m balsa?
@BillKisel Жыл бұрын
Another winner from E-flite and HH! I believe I have the experience to fly this model, so long as I don't go stunt crazy, but I don't think I have the confidence to fly the Timber SWS. In the back of my mind will be the fear of crashing the plane and having to pick up the pieces. Ps. I have and often fly the original Timber 1.5.
@airhammer6203 Жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful big timber Timber HH!!. I really dig it!! but I'm afraid the cost would put me in the hole.
@rayh280811 ай бұрын
Looks beautiful. I have the first 1.5 m Timber, and it's my favorite floatplane. Twin water rudders on it are great and all servos are under cover for protection from water splashing. Though battery hatch under nose is a pain, when floats are mounted. But this Timber SWS, has this exposed elevator servo, likely to get splashed by water? A concern. Maybe one day I will buy this SWS.
@HorizonHobbyProducts11 ай бұрын
As you can see in the float flying footage and especially around the 3:21 mark, we used the 2 white covers that come with the Carbon-Z float set to cover the elevator and rudder servos: www.horizonhobby.com/product/carbon-z-float-set/EFLA5600.html
@rayh280811 ай бұрын
@@HorizonHobbyProducts I see that now, thanks. Another feature I like about my Classic Timber on floats, is the wing servos, and linkage to ailerons and flaps are completely enclosed in the wing. Like a high end sailplane. Less chance for water intrusion, when the floats splash water around. My Timber-X, while a great ,fun plane on wheels has exposed wing servos too, though the rudder/elevator surfaces are controlled by long push rods to servos at wing root. Better for water ops..
@davidcolgan3268 Жыл бұрын
Been saying that a balsa Timber was needed; how about a 20-30 cc version? Timber design has been a home run!
@DarenManson Жыл бұрын
That is stunning! 🔥
@coastrnut Жыл бұрын
I like this - but - oh my poor bank account! Will have to wait and see what the Tax refund looks like! :)
@mrcarlpaton Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love it! Reminds me of my old skywolf.
@jamesturncliff5960 Жыл бұрын
Does it come in a kit or is it pre-built I like building airplanes
@PhilBender612 Жыл бұрын
its all in the description.
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
If you don't like this release please be considerate and respectful if you comment here! You may not like it, but there are many people who do (see the many positive comments here so far!). And for those who might have the urge to think/say we "never release anything different!", keep in mind this may be "another Timber" - all of which are all-time best sellers because so many people like and buy them (and often buy multiples of them...just like Cubs, Sticks, P-51s, T-28s, F-16s, etc.!) - but it's also WOOD and there are no other ARF models like this that can be assembled without glue...nor are there any other wood BNF models available that are anything like this! Also, the second paragraph below is a good reminder: We typically release upwards of two dozen new airplane models each year, from ultra micro to giant scale, from trainers and STOL-capable models to warbirds and jets. Around half or more of those are ALL-NEW designs, and the remainder are usually NEW updates/upgrades of previously available models. We try to "sequence" them so we don't announce/release too many updated/upgraded versions of previous models in a row, but that's not always possible. And if anyone doesn't like our recent, this or any future announcements/releases, they should wait a few weeks to see what the next one is...because it could be COMPLETELY different and something they like/want much more! We've got some ALL-NEW jets, civilian scale, STOL, 3D, sport and other models - in foam and wood - in the works and coming soon. For added reference, these are the models we've released in the last ~18 months: • ALL-NEW E-flite Habu SS 50mm EDF (announced 7/21/2022) • ALL-NEW E-fllite Beechcraft D18 1.5m (announced 9/8/2022) • NEW E-flite F-16 Thunderbirds 80mm EDF (announced 9/15/2022) • NEW Hangar 9 Fun Scale PT-19 PNP (announced 9/22/2022) • NEW E-flite UMX P-51D Voodoo (announced 9/29/2022) • NEW RealFlight Evolution (announced 10/13/2022) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Twin Otter (announced 12/8/2022) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite P-51D Mustang 1.2m "Cripes A'Mighty 3rd" (announced 1/12/2023) • ALL-NEW Tower Hobbies ASW 28 2.0m (announced 1/13/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite Carbon-Z T-28 Trojan 2.0m (announced 1/26/2023) • ALL-NEW Hangar 9 Pawnee Brave 20cc, 87" ARF (announced 2/2/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Slow Ultra Stick 1.2m (announced 3/2/2023) • ALL-NEW Hangar 9 Aermacchi MB-339 60-85N Turbine Jet, 84” ARF (announced 3/16/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite UMX Turbo Timber Evolution (announced 3/23/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 1 (announced 3/30/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Ultra Stick 1.1m (announced 4/6/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Twin Timber 1.6m (announced 4/13/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Air Tractor (announced 5/11/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 2 (announced 5/23/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite EC-1500 Twin 1.5m (announced 6/1/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite P-47 Thunderbolt 1.2m (announced 6/15/2023) • NEW Blade Inductrix (announced 7/20/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 3 (announced 7/27/2023) • ALL-NEW Blade Fusion 550 (announced 8/3/2023) • ALL-NEW SR-71 Blackbird Twin 40mm EDF (announced 8/17/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite Viper 70mm EDF (announced 9/21/2023) • ALL-NEW HobbyZone Apprentice STOL S 700mm (announced 10/19/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) HobbyZone Duet S 525mm (announced 10/26/2023) • NEW Tower Hobbies Seawind 1.4m (announced 10/27/2023) • NEW HobbyZone Sport Cub S 2 615mm (announced 11/2/2023) • NEW Tower Hobbies DHC-2 Beaver 1.5m (announced 11/3/2023) • ALL-NEW RealFlight Evolution 2023 Quarterly Content Pack 4 (announced 11/9/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) E-flite UMX WACO (announced 11/9/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite UMX Conscendo (announced 11/16/2023) • NEW (updated and upgraded!) F-16 Thunderbirds 70mm EDF (announced 12/7/2023) • ALL-NEW E-flite Turbo Timber SWS 2.0m (announced 1/18/2024)
@Reindeer911 Жыл бұрын
E-Flite might have just hit a home run with this one. I would want to see the specs as far as wing loading and whatnot, but from the video it looks plenty maneuverable and still retains good STOL capability. If it performs anything like the other models in the Timber line, it should be stable and easy to fly. As others have pointed out, the balsa construction does have a lot of advantages. Will need to look closer to see what technologies are involved, but this is looking really promising! Regardless, looks like I'm going to have to start saving my pennies for this one! LOL!
@robieosborne7369 Жыл бұрын
Is there a suspension kit available??
@robertklement5811 Жыл бұрын
Price may seem high, but if you’ve never built an a RF plate or a scratch built, you’ll see that this fee is extremely reasonable. This is not a foam plane. There is a big difference. Sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know. But from experience, this is a very reasonable price .
@user-rcprimew8k Жыл бұрын
you guys need an upgraded and bigger ah64 apache helicopter
@LyroLife11 ай бұрын
I wonder how well these balsa planes will sell when there are the cheaper foam options.
@HorizonHobbyProducts11 ай бұрын
The first shipment of these sold out within a few days of announcing it :) Some people prefer wood models, especially in larger sizes...even though they cost more. And although there have been more new foam and less wood models introduced over the last decade or so, we see renewed interest in wood models. And that's why we'll continue introducing a wide variety of small foam to giant scale wood models (and mid-sized models in both foam and wood!) in the coming years!
@aragorn318 Жыл бұрын
Habu balsa
@archivist17 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! 😍
@JMTerry1984 Жыл бұрын
Really nice. PLEASE make a balsa wood EDF 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@BrianTurner-ub2tu Жыл бұрын
I really like this 2.0m Wood Timber, I just have too wait a few months for the rc plane fun too replenish my rc funds before I can buy this one! Hopefully Its in stock! I do not have a 2.0m plane in my Hanger and now have too decide which too get this year. This was added too the 2.0m short list: T-28, wood Timber. Good luck pilots on getting this beautiful Timber. Yes people are going too be like Its another Timber blah blah blah. We need a 2m wood timber that is 6s! Thank you HH for delivering this beautiful plane that I look forward too buying! Question to HH: I wonder if yall would make a storage Transport box for the plane. Some of us folks move every few years and preserving the beauty of planes like this, is one reason I am torn on expanding my Fleet. I just worry that Ill have too either sell or build custom box for every plane prior too moving too next duty station.(disclaimer: limited on weight for "pro gear"
@QwentynRC Жыл бұрын
So a timber made from timber????
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
Spinning timber too (because it has a wood prop)! It's the timber Timber that spins timber :)
@ruger1420 Жыл бұрын
I was looking to buy timber evolution foam one. Im glad i waited lol. Timber balsa soumds awesome. I think ill pull the trigger now on this one. ......wow just looked at the price. 😮. Maybe make a 1.5 timber balsa? Ummm. Maybe will buy. Lol
@ErikJohnsonFMA Жыл бұрын
0:24 I would have caught the wing on the ground during that maneuver
@jonnycatt138 Жыл бұрын
This is sweet🔥🔥
@Saad_Khalid_ Жыл бұрын
Please add intelligent flight modes in rc plane like dji drones
@POHLHAMMER Жыл бұрын
I thought wood was dead.. 🤘HH Now, only if I had more leisure time to fly...
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
Wood models cost more than they used to (due to increased demand for balsa to produce windmill blades, plus the skilled labor required to assemble and finish them costing more than ever), but they're definitely not dead! That's why we have quite a few more wood E-flite and Hangar 9 models in the works :)
@ferociousfrankie Жыл бұрын
Good, the less foam the better.
@blueline308 Жыл бұрын
Wow...$350 for the fucking electronics?
@HorizonHobbyProducts Жыл бұрын
Yes, compared to the $519.91 it would cost to buy them separately (see below)...plus they already come installed from the factory! That makes the BNF Basic version a great deal compared to the ARF version (and most other similar class ARF models): "We also know some people still prefer ARFs so they can install components they already own and/or prefer. But the BNF Basic version at $350 more offers quite a bit of added convenience and value because it includes these factory-installed and high-quality Spektrum components: (1) Spektrum AR8360T 8-Channel Receiver with AS3X and SAFE Select = $129.99 ( ]www.horizonhobby.com/product/ar8360t-dsmx-8-channel-as3x-and-safe-telemetry-receiver/SPMAR8360T.html ) (6) Spektrum A6380 Digital HV, Metal-Geared Aircraft Servos = $29.99 x 6 = $179.94 ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/a6380-standard-digital-hv-high-torque-high-speed-metal-gear-aircraft-servo/SPMSA6380.html ) (1) Spektrum Avian 5055-500Kv Brushless Outrunner Motor = $109.99 ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/avian-5055-500kv-outrunner-brushless-motor/SPMXAM4740.html ) (1) Spektrum Avian 100-Amp Brushless Smart ESC = $99.99 ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/avian-100-amp-brushless-smart-esc-3s-6s/SPMXAE1100.html ) Which total up to $519.91 separately! That means you actually save $169.91 AND they’re already installed for you! So although it’s far from cheap, the BNF Basic version is actually a pretty good deal compared to the ARF. It’s also a good deal compared to many other similar class ARFs that would cost upwards of $1000-$1200 to complete with similar components!"