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Slots, you ask. You may have noticed we didn't mention the slots (aka fixed slats) that come with the Timber Evolution in our review. This is because we do not use them. We find that they make the wings more fragile in transport, reduce aileron effectiveness, and add unnecessary weight to an airplane that's already too heavy. At the RC scale, full span slots don't aid in flight at higher angles of attack the same way they would with a full-scale sized airplane. Reducing aircraft weight and/or adding camber to the wing is what is most effective for smaller RC aircraft that fly at a lower Reynolds number. Ultimately, *in our opinion*, we find that the Timber Evolution flies better without them after flying it the way we do.
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[@TailHeavyProductions]

*Update: after extensive flying (bush/pattern/3D/etc) over hundreds of flights on two Turbo Timber Evolutions, there’s two reasons we no longer suggest this airplane. 1: We rarely fly them anymore since the FunCub NG effectively replaced the Timber as our go to current production bush plane. 2: The Timber Evo has an legit Achilles heal in addition to the gear springs…the plastic motor mount. After lots of flying, nose overs, prop strikes, etc, the plastic motor mount eventually fatigues and will crack and break. Once this happens, the fuselage is totaled because there is no replacement motor mount - you have to buy an entirely new fuselage. Check out our review on the FunCub NG as a great alternative.*

[@ernestostrman5147]

And i just bought TTE 2 days before i saw your video on FunCub NG. Also heard someone had probldm with mount...it disconected from plane during flight. FunCub seems similar on paper to FMS P18 1300mm.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Unfortunately they really aren’t that similar from a feel in flight standpoint. The FMS is literally twice as heavy wing cube loading wise and less capable from an acro standpoint as well.

[@planesnstuff-xo6cu]

when ever you talk about rc planes you sound like you are a airliner pilot love your content!:)@@TailHeavyProductions

[@ButtNLint]

Does the UMX turbo timber have issues with the motor mount?

[@QwentynErasmus]

no@@ButtNLint

[@propabilityfpv]

You guys should make a top 5 (or 10?) bush planes video, going into all the criteria you use to rank them and how they compare to each other. It's kind of a small niche, but I think that video would be a banger!

[@MrFester63]

Thanks for another great video! As a noob, I really enjoy your approach to rc keeping it fun and challenging. Your insight and advice has been really helpful. Thanks!

[@KB_RC]

Heck yeah sweet guys! Such an amazing video as always! Keep them up. I’m addicted to the format you make your videos in! 😂 I’m just getting started with mine as you know…😂 can’t wait to fly it like you guys do! I will definitely use your setup tips as well as that new prop soon! Flying it tonight! Thanks!!!

[@dspringer3792]

I got the Timber X as my "After trainer". It had very similar issues, and that battery hatch on the bottom was ass, but it was also a great plane. I designed and 3-D printed a small bracket to keep the gear from ground roll, or bouncing inward to hard, after the original clips broke off.

[@usaygaming9555]

Would you be interested in sharing the STL for this print? I believe it may be the solution to the issues I've been having there

[@michelpetrus]

All rc planes reviews should be as insightful as this one . Thank you.

[@austinandtate]

Best review of the Turbo Timber Evolution on KZbin by far! Living in Southern Africa I’ve been shopping between the Timber X and Evolution but gotta say this video sold me on the Evolution for it’s STOL and backward thrust capabilities. Definitely going to get the extra springs and prop, thanks for that!

[@juststollingaround6050]

Worth noting that the Night Timber X also has reversing. I've owned both and I think prefer the X

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thank you! You'll enjoy it! As Just Stolling Around noted - reverse thrust is included as an option with any PNP/BNF Horizon airplane that has a SMART esc combined with a Spektrum TX+RX. Have fun! -Zach

[@johnlvas614]

Just love your videos! Keep up the good work :) I ordered a TT Evo after watching your videos. Looking forward to get her up in the air :)

[@utahjag]

If you guys reviewed airplanes, this would be the channel I would use. The easily understandable and smooth voice along with the plethora of useful information makes you much better than the review sites that like to show off their flying skills while providing little information. I'd start with the most popular to date and the latest popular releases. I am going to subscribe to watch for this and see if your subscriptions go through the roof as I suspect.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks, Dave!

[@shelbyintheolds]

Well put together video. Nice review considering I just brought one home Saturday

[@TheFrenchPug]

You sold me on something I didn't need. Great job!!!

[@PhilipCockram]

Great flying and tips . Thanks .

[@ramsandrzr3706]

Just got this plane last week did the maiden over the weekend with wheels and then threw the floats on it Sunday and did my first water ops what a blast. An absolutely awesome plane 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@thelaneman]

I added an aluminum plate in in my old timber (non turbo) and used small machine screws and nuts to hold my gear plate on instead of the stock screws plus a thin stainless steel plate on the outside. Also replaced wheels with inflatable 5 in tires from an X fly Glastar from Castle hobbies.

[@jorgenelsonfelix52]

Very nice model I loved it. Greetings from Buenos Aires . ✈✈👍🙋👍✈✈

[@wazabiqc]

Just got one after flying an UMX spot cub S2 for a month plus some realflight practice, I wanted to go bigger. Love it so far ! However I could not use reverse thrust as i'm using an old DX7S that doesn't support forward programming, and I don't have a program box yet. i'll probably upgrade my transmitter soon so I can have telemetry and reverse thrust, it is a must when flying in tight spaces I think.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Excellent video guys!!!

[@excellenceinanimation960]

Great review! Love the footage!

[@natejmedia]

First video without your tag... Great video!!

[@howardpelcman8788]

I enjoy your videos. Very informative. The Evo is my second plane. I am way down on the food chain when it comes to piloting. Too many bad landings and broken springs. I designed and built my own gear with an inch of vertical travel. More forgiving and easily repaired. Heavier yes. The trade off is better for me.I also built an air scoop below and just behind the cowl. Directing air straight at the ESC. I wish I could share but I'm not savvy at that.

[@howiedenton2709]

Great flight footage..!!

[@joynermark]

I've been having so many overheating issues with this plane (even after moving the ESC forward etc as Horizon suggest, actually that made hardly any difference) I was getting constant telemetry alarms for overheating with the stock prop after about 4 mins flight. I couldn't fly the plane the way I wanted which was very frustrating. I followed your advice and switched to a 13x4 and wow, what a difference. I've been pushing it harder than I ever have, prop hanging etc and it just sits at +-70 degrees Celsius. I feel like I have a new plane. Thanks a lot.

[@flyingdevin1]

I made a duct tape firewall ram air mod under the front cowling to force more air under the battery and over the esc. I almost never get heat warnings anymore. Hot day and 200' power climb from hover will still piss it off. I am definitely going to switch to your recommendation of prop. Still my favorite plane I have. Wish it had the steering style servoes in the flots like my fms floats.

[@agevan6735]

Best! thank you so much,, fun fun fun!

[@7.3obsobsessed31]

I love my timber evo, I just started flying last year and it was my 3rd rc plane still looks brand new except buying a ton of landing gear springs and going through idk how many 11x7-3 props but I spoiled myself because now I can’t find a bnf I want more than this thing. I just bought a 1/4 scale bud nosen Cessna 310 10ft wing span and I still like my evo more

[@Donkey_Balls]

Thanks for another great video

[@TNTslayer1997]

Great review! I agree on the springs ive been patiently waiting for my new set to come in i should probably order another

[@patrickhoyle8357]

@Jack C Dunman Thanks for the sensible tip, I've just cut mine. Was amazed how strong the wire is, I couldn't cut with snippers had to use a dremel. Even though the springs are bent hopefully they will now last a while. Was going to remove them from the plane to cut but thought might struggle to reinstall them. Once removed it's obvious that they were doing the restriction. You've saved me buying new springs, thank you very much. I'm curious, I wonder how they put them together? the clips go round each other where you can't see. Now I can't help but wonder why the clips were there, all they'd do is restrict the spring- sort of a paradox. Thanks again!

[@Destructor429]

I just bought one of these things. I am a warbird guy and will not be flying the piss out of my timber like you do here! Nice normal scale flying for me. I pulled that Spektrum garbage receiver out and got rid of it as soon as the plane came out of the box. I had bad luck with my old DX6 and DX8 about 10 years ago, so I will never trust Spektrum again. I switched to FlySky and never looked back. it was nice tho because I sold the receiver to some guy at the field for $100! So it sure helped drop the price on the plane! I only have about 5 flights on it so far and it is a nice plane. Crazy to see what you guys do with this thing! I will absolutely change the Prop as you recommend. I fly on 4000 mah 3s and get about 12 minute flights out of it. Just discovered your channel today so I will sub. Thanks for the vid!

[@riverpirate1022]

For your reference I have been flying spektrum only gear (minus batteries and chargers) all around since early 2000's and never had any failures of anything except crash damage. My current IX12 radio is slow as crap to load, but thats about it. I have owned dozens of spektrum foam models mostly warbirds, zero issues and still flying some that are long out of production. I also own some freewing models (jets mostly) from Motion RC which is awesome, and they are better quality foam and mechanicals but so so electronics. FMS which horizon bought out and incorporated are total garbage foam and even worse electronics, sold off the few FMS warbirds I had and will never touch another.

[@3DMOFO2020]

Another cool video guys👍👍👍👍

[@thelongestday64]

It is clearly our favorite plane!

[@XYZFPV]

Super nice plane, need to get one

[@chuckb9867]

I'd like to see some vintage RC planes flying and maybe a link to this plane in the description

[@markymark3075]

Great review, thanks

[@kendonnelly3248]

Our club has about 8 members that have them. Problem after problem. Overheating, Motor replacements and melted motor mounts etc. Its a good trainer but ya cant push it. Try to do an outside loop. lol. Great review.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Very nice review fellas!

[@peterxyz3541]

Fascinating

[@mitchmo5000]

Great review! I picked one up a few weeks ago based off of your other videos and and really loving it! 2 questions though… 1. Do you know if you can use the reverse thrust if you don’t use a spectrum receiver? I’m using a Radiomaster receiver. 2. What is the best bush plane that you can buy today (you said you think think the timber evo, is more of a Jack of all trades). Thanks for the info and keep up the awesome videos! One of my new favorite channels!!

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks! That's a great question. I believe that in order to utilize the SMART functionality of the Spektrum ESC, you do need Spektrum TX and RX hardware. Hobby King does sell some reversing ESC's that have a separate plug that's signal only so you can use it with any radio on a two-position switch. The best purpose-designed bush plane in our eyes will always be the OG Fun Cub, but it's no longer produced. As of now, out of all US manufacturers, we'd argue the best STOL plane on the market is the 1300mm FMS Super Cub, despite its higher weight. We do want to give the Multiplex Fun Cub NG a shot, though, which is produced in Germany. We think it would be crowned the winner but can't say until we try it. Hard to get in the US, though. -Zach

[@christophermathis5183]

Have had the Wheel and Hub separate on my TTEvo. Only got it this year around June.

[@ParaglidingManiac]

Best commercial ever!:)

[@juststollingaround6050]

Great video - I really like your bush-flying ones. I bought an Evo, having had the original Timber before, and was unexpectedly slightly disappointed. You mention it in the video - it is just a little too 'floaty' and I couldn't get to land as short as a Tundra or Funcub, or the original Timber. Still a great plane - I wish I had thought try the 13x4 prop switch - that sounds great for more torque and less ESC load.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thank you! We never did mention that it was "floaty" but that it can't get as slow because of the higher wing loading. "Floaty" is a term synonymous with a light airplane, not a heavy one. The only way to ensure the SLOWEST possible speed before reaching the airplane's 1G critical angle of attack would be to keep it as LIGHT as possible which is why we use the 2200mah 4s. It's the same philosophy even up to airliners - the heavier we are, the higher our approach speed, and the lighter, the lower. It scales down to RC, too. -Zach

[@juststollingaround6050]

@@TailHeavyProductions Thanks Zach. Yes, "floaty" was the wrong term. I just couldn't get the Evo to slow down as well as the others. Your info on the wing loading comparison between Evo and Funcub was really helpful. I like your other Funcub videos and have recently bought one - it's amazing just how light it is.

[@bankkomenek3824]

the new standard of RC review

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Cool plane. I just have strong reservations about buying anything from HH given their constant OOS issues and long wait times to get replacement parts.

[@stevemartin9498]

Seriously, I’m on my way to Freewing at motionRc because they do much better at this.

[@poker8193]

It’s hit and miss for sure. Iv got some good stuff but also had a nightmare with my blade 330s being junk from factory. And my NX10 had to go back to the facTory 3 times but still won’t connect to WiFi and telemetry still doesn’t work with anything I got even though it suposably came with it on board the helicopter and my plane

[@alexfeatherstone6676]

@@poker8193 dude just get a tx16s

[@djinn201]

@@poker8193 have you updated software for TX from spectrum site?

[@djinn201]

any good a productive company will have wait times its just part of the hobbie now. To put it simply do you eant a peice of crap fast or a quality product in 3-4 months. I find the best thing to do is find a big local hobbie store and order though their wait list if item's not in stock you'll get a relistic wait time and because they bulk order you'll get it faster than if you ordered it yourself. Given I'm in Australia Horizon is in America I waited 10 weeks for my TT Evolution 100% worth the wait, same hobbie currently has heaps of spares in stock for it aswell.

[@ficosk8]

I have the older one and as a beginner could take some tips out of this! Saddly I already ordered some spare 3 blade props... But I have 12x4 (E-Flite) and some 12x6. I will try them too :) But after a couple of hard landings I´m training with a UMX Sport Cub for not have to glue something every weekend :P

[@WhereNerdyisCool]

I own one of these and there are several that frequent my local airfield. One had a servo tear off the inner fuselage, killing the elevator. So there’s some non existent QA on properly mounting servos. I’ve also seen one owner loose the ailerons as a servo burnt out. The overheating is just really poor design. We find removing the spring pins on each end helps a lot. It’s fun to learn on but they really cut a lot of corners producing these things. I’ll be swapping the prop soon to get more run time

[@Thejasond1979]

Great review agree with everything u said

[@stevemartin9498]

What a great review. I’ve had my original Timber for 6 years and zero issues so far. If anything after a while it gets a little boring to fly, no bad tendencies at all. Sometimes horizon makes a great product and then ruins it with future versions. Like the UMX Vapor “HP” which flew horribly compared with the original one.

[@TrailcamsRCPhotoFlying2000]

Excellent, comprehensive video. I have one to assemble in the near future. When using flaps, especially for approach and landing, does it require down-elevator input to compensate to the extent that a mix in the transmitter is required ?

[@seansdriveway]

Nice!

[@rlbutterfield]

Nice review.

[@epoweredrc]

nice review, i have maiden a couple at my field. so really didn't get to see what all it would do its nice to know without the AS3X Rx you can make it more of a 3d plane. those stock moments are kinda limited i was sad to see there is no adjustments on the ailerons to get more seemed to be some type of in the wing hook up. Also think this is the first i have heard about the prop change but makes sense. also yes those springs on the gear suck not sure why they changed it from the stock Timber X and Night timber x i owned both and never had a spring break. a club member has broken 2 sets and finally he just went to hardware store and got regular springs and rigged it up and its been fine.

[@boss2234]

Grate tech video

[@PatrickVannie]

I have this plane and only disappointment was that the reverse thrust does not work with Futaba receiver and transmitter. Apparantly you really need a Spektrum setup to get this to work. But overall it is a very nice plane to fly and i am very happy with it as my first airplane :-)

[@turbor9770]

Great video man I love my timber Evo. I fly up in the lakes region. You should check out our field sometime. Winnepesaukee radio controllers is the name of the club.

[@Krash_fpv]

My timber x came with the most oblong tires ever....when I taxi it looked like it was a 64 Impala hitting switches.....literally 1 day if flying and I had to pull the trigger and get some dubros

[@TheLucas2696]

I'd really like to see what you guys would do with an Aeroscout. I've flown more in the past 3 months that I've had it than I did in the 3 years prior. Just an absolute blast, very wide speed envelope, surprisingly precise and aerobatic, and it's capable of some STOL flying also.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

It’s a great plane for sure! We fly them often at our local club instructing students and definitely enjoy them. We have been chatting about reviewing one at some point so stay tuned. -Zach

[@jorgh.9267]

Amazing what you guys can do with rc planes. Just getting into 'bush rc flying'. Great videos. Thanks!

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks, it's fun stuff - enjoy it!

[@renoacct]

My TT floated on landing so set up crow on my TT and it slowed down very nicely.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Floating on landing is caused by too fast of an approach speed - with landing flaps or even without, she will get slower than you'd think!

[@bowenbrown]

Yesssss another video!!! And why do I get one hmmmm

[@g00se09]

I got this before I knew how to fly and decided to get a umx to practice I got the first one I found which was a damaged umx sukhoi that I repaired with egg cartons and had trouble flying because it's motor is lacking thrust bc it's burnt out since the plane is 13 years old l. I learned tho and now I can fly😊

[@charleybarber86]

I really like your channel. I just can't buy another e-file again all my birds were damaged in box, and two out of the last four were so bad it couldn't be flown. My first turbo timber Evo was one of my favorite planes. My last one bad engine, and aileron servo. I decided to end my relationship with HH and fly balsa/nitro. Much happier with the planes

[@djinn201]

Use the wing slats changes the stol capabilities of the plane. I'm leaving mine off for now aswell but I plan to by another set to install the slats on.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Check out our video description for why we didn't use them. 👍

[@andym1578]

I bust the springs on my maiden flite the landing wasn't that hard luckily I had some spair from my old Timber & I haven't had a problem since

[@esill2995]

Awesome review. I would like to see a review on the Tundra and hear how it compares.

[@juststollingaround6050]

I've owned both. The Tundra is really hard to beat, and also has the reversing feature.

[@esill2995]

I put a tundra together this afternoon. Can't wait to fly it, but I fly nothing like these guys.

[@mithrandir6283]

Hello there dear gentleman, what a great, and high-quality review! I just have a quick question, Is there a reason you guys opted to forgo using the slats?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thank you! Take a peak at the video description for the full info on our take on the slats. 👍

[@speedyswede5585]

Great Review & Summation! New information to ponder. If I may>>>>>: Have and are you using the stock Spektrum servos as out of the box? Any problems with the original hinges in those foam wings? Have you used any mixes (other than factory flap setup) in your model? Thanks!!!!

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thank you! Great questions. -We've had zero issues using the stock servos with how we have been flying it. We haven't had a single servo fail between our two Timber Evolutions we've had over the last year. -No issues with any hinges. -No mixing aside from flap/elevator. We haven't found that we needed mixes to successfully fly it the way we do. Hope this helps. -Zach

[@sbansie]

Awesome Review! Planning on this one for my second, quickly outgrowing the Carbon Cub S2. Could you please let me know which prop and spinner? (Spinner, 2 Blade: UMX Timber Item No.E-flite - EFLU3958, APC-Landing Products - APCLP13040) Will these fit? Thanks

[@jamescodd9323]

You guys should try the new multiplex fun cub and see how it compares to the original

[@reptilewizz]

Do you live near Beaverton Oregon by chance? This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen on this plane! I bought one long ago but haven’t flown it yet haha. I still got my maule that I’ve fallen in love with.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thank you! 💙 We do not, no.

[@markowen8224]

I think this is my next airplane ✈️

[@thekingsilverado3266]

Sadly to say I got one of the first updated Turbos out. It's still in the box. What happened is a wild B-Day present to myself story caused by a company my buddy is overly friendly with produced a limited run of his custom made replica Bi Plane he takes to shows which I think is American Shearson. They were primarily built in the early 1930's for crop dusting but the rest were lost in WWI. This thing is not a foam body plane it's an ABS body Gas motor plane. So what's my point? Once I started taking the pieces out of the box I laid the pieces together and it is a spectacular sight to see the thing unassembled and as I was putting it together naturally I needed a motor this that the other thing typical custom style kit plane. It did come with Futaba servos beautiful job they did on mounts for the servos and stuff so off I went yesterday to a distant Hobby Store called TRAINS & LANES NEAR NAZRETH/BETHLEHEM TWSP PENNSYLVANIA for my B-Day present to myself I bought the radio and engine plastic fuel line. When I got to the cash register I was up over $550 dollars and had to stop for gas for my truck which was another $109.00 so to say the least the Turbo is going to have wait in its box until dad has a few extra pesos. But the color scheme of this Bi Plane is awesome out of the box the parts and pieces just grab hold of your eye balls. I may decide to just hang this in my office after all that maybe only fly it on special occasions. It is that gorgeous. The Shearson Biplane was the first Biplane to have an enclosed pilot space. When it was used in WWI they used it primarily to drop bombs not as a fighter after all it was built as a commercial crop duster not a fighter plane. As far as I know Tony Palidino has the only one in existence. Although his technically not truly a replica almost every piece of the aged plane has so far been removed. About the only OEM pieces that still exist on it are the original landing struts the metal pieces of the tail wheel probably the metal cabin floor with the seating mounts and the metal engine cradle the motor sits in. The rest of it was all wooden and mostly it was all replaced because of age & fatigue.

[@onemangeeksqaud]

As for the Landing gear, I have a set of replacement gear coming to my etsy store soon, its far more robust

[@poker8193]

I turned off the gyro on one flight mode with factory receiver and can use over 100 on all throws as long as AS3X is off on that mode

[@bramrc1246]

Noice

[@user-xq7ry1gv4w]

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[@marcellowithtwols]

Thanks for a great 1-year review. You mentioned this isn't your favorite bush plane, so I'm wondering which one might be your favorite, as I'm in the market for a new plane! I've been hoping for a bush version of the Valiant, but thats not gonna happen...

[@TailHeavyProductions]

As of now, the 1300mm FMS Super Cub fits the bill for best bush plane for the money that can take some decent abuse.

[@user-ln6hf2zr5b]

u should by the twisted hobbies madbull, its insane!! You'll love it

[@papasplanes.956]

I own a TT Evo, great video. Where can I find the spinner for the 2 bladed prop?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks! All info is in the video description

[@old-rcplane-phart]

Buddy emailed HH (& so have several other pilots i fly with) about the crappy timber evo springs. THAT whoever dude said HE was the 1st complaint. BS!!! Unless that dude was just hired🤷🤯! I had an extra set for my nite x, just in case. Seems evo pilots are now using the timber x springs, & working fine. Ill stay with my bottom loader.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Good call on keeping the extra set. Just to clarify - the Timber X springs are the same springs as the Timber Evolution. The part # is EFL5268. It's all cross-compatible. 👍

[@eugenetufaro6987]

How about putting a link for the prop and spinner you used. I can't find the right spinner to work with the 13x4 prop

[@TailHeavyProductions]

All links are in the video description. 👍

[@kendonnelly3248]

Great video. Definitely changing my prop. My question is if i force update the receiver . That will strip the as3x. Would i be able to get the unrestricted throw?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks! You would, yep. 👍

[@Estuardomendez13]

I gave my timber the springs from the timber X which are much stronger and ive had them on 3 timbers so far without them failing but they only ever come with the timber X in the box

[@TailHeavyProductions]

The replacement part for springs is the exact same part number for the Timber X as it is for the Evolution, just something to note for sure.

[@JasonWoodard]

Where did you get the nose cone for a 2 bladed prop?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Check out the video description 👍

[@poker8193]

Ever run wooden props ? I’m old school and like wood but never tried putting one on a foam electric olane

[@drmrjon]

What size spinner did you use when switching to the 13x4 prop??

[@TailHeavyProductions]

All info is in the video description

[@userTJ39780]

So, other than a Fun Cub, in your opinion, what is the best "Bush Plane?" I fly my Flite Test Bushwacker through paths and around trees just fine.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

It's not that black and white. You can fly a Timber Evo around trees fine too - as long as there is a bit more room. The Fun Cub is over a pound lighter which means it can fly in even narrower and tighter spots than the Timber could since it's the same size but weighs way less (lower 1G stall speed). The Fun Cub NG is the only current market airplane in its size class that is as light as it is. There's no comparing - especially to the OG. We generally recommend either of those if budget permits, and then if not - the FMS 1300mm Super Cub as a good budget starter bush plane (but much heavier and not as slow).

[@riverpirate1022]

The previous blue turbo timber was perfect except for the ignorant bottom loading battery tray design from 2005. I never had any trouble with the landing gear setup, but I also don't abuse my models or try to make a stol bush plane do 3D or land in ridiculous places. I only fly my blue turbo timber on 4s, with the stock prop and I only fly my models hard/fast. Mine has never overheated, and the 3 blade prop has more than enough torque for anything including pulling out of a hover (Which the plane is not designed to even do). The most fun is flying in high wind and doing "no roll out" instant take offs, standing backflips, and vertical landings. I also HATE red on a model, (I love blue) huge deal breaker for me to upgrade and main reason I have not bought the evolution. So they fixed the battery tray and made it worse in many other ways. I REALLY want the bottom battery access, but I'm no longer sure this "evolution" is worth it. Thanks for this detailed video.

[@garyhinchey4086]

I have heard that the twin timber landing gear will fit on the turbo timber, any comments, I am gonna give it a try

[@shelledcrane0177]

Yes

[@thenextcujo]

I have a turbo Timber and I will say that while putting the slats on did a bit to reduce its aerobatic performance, it did hell quite a bit with the slow speed performance. Have you tried putting them on? You’ll likely find a big different in the STOL performance if you do

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Check out our video description for more info. 👍

[@akacaleb]

What spinner do I need to run a 13x4 prop?

[@beeawesome7140]

I didn't ever notice the slats, did you not use them? They make a pretty big difference.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

We didn't use the slots, no, check out the video description for why. We tend to disagree on them making a difference in a positive way.

[@HugeVictor]

You guys never mounted the slats, I'm curious of your thoughts!

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Check out the video description for our thoughts on slats. 👍

[@niccalahan428]

What is the flight time, for the turbo timber Evo with a 2200 4s and the 13x4 prop?

[@shelledcrane0177]

3 minutes full throttle and 5 minute if you have it at around 60-70%. It’s a great plane, I had my for a year and landing gear only deformed 2 time in that time

[@HenryL161947]

Grear video Still think the gear need a proper re do How about no springs and stronger base plate

[@Simplyblueberry246]

I use a random mustang from Amazon and a flight test beaver and bush plane the freedom-fox I believe is what I believe it’s called

[@Simplyblueberry246]

3:00 minutes is what it’s like to have a beaver

[@NightworksYT]

Only 50 amps us fpv pilots pull upwards of 100 that's crazy I thought all of RC did that

[@luky.249]

Hi, what cone is suitable when using a 13x4 propeller if the original drift remains? With the current setup, the motor and esc are horribly hot. well thank you

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Hey Peter! I'm not sure I understand your question. If you mean spinner, check out the part number EFL5262.

[@JasonWoodard]

Thoughts on the wing slats? Maybe slow down the stall speed a bit? Thanks! Just put mine together with some beefy aftermarket landing gear complete with oil filled shocks 😂

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Check out the video description for our thoughts on the slats 👍🙂

[@JasonWoodard]

Next time I’ll read the entire video description 😅

[@chrisaviationrc]

Can you do a review on Draco too?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

We’ve actually had a few flights on a friend’s Draco. Our first impressions with the raw data both wing loading and flight wise was that it was a little heavy for what we’d want to use it for. For that reason, we don’t intend to get one anytime soon. -Zach

[@HenryL161947]

Have a draco agree that is a heavy bird

[@danflom1271]

I think the springs will last longer without the hard limit stops. And, everyone needs a TT Evo. And, why have you guys not put out a video on the Night Timber X? Make it happen Captain.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

We get asked about reviewing it a lot. When a manufacturer tries to make a plane a Jack of all trades, well…it becomes a master of none. We got rid of our Timber X after owning it for two weeks. The night Flex RV-8 10e out flies it in every possible way. 3D, power to weight, precision, you name it.

[@danflom1271]

@@TailHeavyProductions Fair enough. I just wanted to see you guys snap the vertical stab off.

[@thekingsilverado3266]

I think I am gonna like mine once I get it together that is. What type of radio is that besides a really expensive one??? it looks expensive. I do not think mine came with a radio I could be wrong.

[@fremo-d]

Great review, thanks! However you say it is not suitable for a beginner... what would then be your best advice of choice for a beginner?

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! We’d give the E-Flite Aeroscout or Sport Cub S a try. 👍

[@wazabiqc]

I started with a sport cub S2, it isn't anything crazy to fly, but it does give you a great sense of how an RC plane works ! and also, it is hard to break.. flew mine in a loop full speed directly to the ground on grass, not even a scratch.. After a month I went for a turbo timber evolution and can fly it easily ! I still use SAFE on landings just to make sure I don't bank it too much close to the ground, but you can easily flip it on and off on a switch !