First Impressions: E-flite Turbo Timber SWS 2.0m & Setup Guide

[@TwoBrosRC]

Want building info or other info we didn't cover? Check out ModelAV8R's review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6ucnIWVe7yYnKc Want to see an in-depth setup that we don't have time to cover? Check out Brian Phillips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kF6cmoKJhKZ0qNU

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Well put together Jon. The best part of the whole video is the excitement in your voice. Clearly, you love it.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Anyone who's flown it shares the same sentiment. It's phenomenal!

[@AL-RCjunkie]

Excitement is contagious. When you know and when it's obvious 👍

[@williamwallace9427]

I must say.. I’m envious of you having such great places to fly from. Paved runway, grass, and a lake. Very nice

[@TwoBrosRC]

The runway needs work, but the lake is gorgeous. Thanks!

[@williamwallace9427]

That whole area looks absolutely beautiful

[@bgblindt]

Just pulled the trigger on this one! For the price cheaper than building precision or extreme flight Cannot wait until it comes in!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Congrats, hope you enjoy!

[@MotCogs]

Great video!!! Love the Timber Timber

[@jimitwofeathers5527]

I fly both the Carbon Z Cessna 150T and the Orange Carbon Z on floats. I found that in addition to using Corrosion X or a waterproof servo make sure you seal up all the unused mounting holes on the top of the floats and some soft foam around the back of the float where the the control rod connects to the rudder. Especially when you use reverse! Any water that gets into the floats can cause a forward and back CG issue with the balance as you fly. Also draining out the water can be a real pain. Like you I am a Real Timber Head and have flown Every version of the Timber except the first Giant Red/Orange Balsa Wood Version that came out in 2016. My first maiden flight on a Timber was 7/11/16 on the first 1.5m Red/White/Black Timber logged 218 flights! I keep log books for every plane and am now building the new SWS BNF!!!My Favorite Timbers so far have been the Blue black and white Turbo Tim and any Timber X! Thank You for your videos!!! Jimi Two Feathers

[@AL-RCjunkie]

What!?! 10/10??? Damn, man. Not surprised, actually. Its very cool that there's a BNF woody on the market with all of my favorite tech pre-installed. Thanks for slinging yours around for us, Jon. And kudos to your filming crew for keeping it all in frame! 👍

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks, Al! Hope you got some useful insight into what this bird is capable of.

[@DylanEdelman-i9e]

Great video!!! Love the Timber Timber

[@x-ray_man3359]

Great video. I enjoy your reviews. You’ve come a long way 👍🏼

[@TwoBrosRC]

Cheers, thank you! 🧡

[@rcplanesandfriends3067]

Another great one John. Nice work!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@warbirdflyerF4U]

Great job truly enjoyed the video

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@flipflopbob]

Great video! Really appreciated the information related to the mixes 17:13

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad it was helpful! Feel free to join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord if you've got any questions or just want to chat.

[@ryanwhitaker2088]

@@TwoBrosRC Hey man so I just bought this plane and an nx8+ radio, I've never really invested this much into the hobby so I'm in new territory for radio setup and binding. Any way you could walk me through the process of getting the basics set up? I don't need to try out anything special yet, just get a baseline for my maiden. I can't figure out how to set up a safe select switch for example, that's the biggest thing

[@walharbay9383]

Tempting........very tempting.........nice flying.........

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's solid, man. Wait until you see it with the motor upgrade we tossed in.

[@edwarddietrich717]

Great Video John!!! I watched the HH's video and I feel asleep for a hour!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Oh don't be mean, their vid was beautiful!

[@StevesRC]

Nice review man. Well done! Glad you like the SWS :)

[@TwoBrosRC]

We're pretty sure you'll love it too!

[@JTMarlin8]

10:30 😍 Carbon Z Cub to the rescue.

[@flyandplayAUSTRALIA]

I love the idea of the jet-engine (or EDF) Timber! I mean why not? We strap on jet engines on gliders right? Awesome video as always Jon! That flat spin and hovering looked FLAWLESS!

[@CalebT_RC]

When you do happen to get the eflite 1.5m mustang, I’d change out the main wheels for some dubro rubber wheels like the ones the rc geek used.

[@monchichis333]

Man $849.. I'd be spending precision aerobatics and extreme flight prices at this point for a Timber

[@TwoBrosRC]

PA and EF models are ARF only and you'd have to buy all of the components, *then* build everything, install servos, the motor, and the ESC. Having built a few PA models ourselves, they're wonderful and we love them. But they aren't a BnF like this Timber. The price point is absolutely where it should be. You're not going to find anything else that can compete with the component pricing and quick assembly.

[@monchichis333]

@@TwoBrosRC OMP Hobby Bushmaster and the OMP Hobby line has some pretty good BNFs with all components ready with Sunnysky power systems and servos all installed from factory, just need receiver. Only thing is shipping is not free. My OMP bushmaster was still under $849 with everything in it. For Timber fans, this is a collectible they would want to have

[@collingaudette7029]

Completely different models man, for example an extra can do stuff a timber can’t and vise versa.

[@monchichis333]

@@collingaudette7029 I totally get that part. But there's also the bushmaster from OMP Hobby for less than the price ready to go. You got bush flying to 3d in one plane too, such a flight envelop for the price

[@monchichis333]

@@collingaudette7029 My comment also keeps disappearing every time I mention OMPHObby bushmaster as a contender to the Timber

[@djinn201]

Straight away a tiny thing that will urge me to buy one is the clear windows... so far lol

[@5280Recreation]

Jon, may be a stupid question but why not configure as 2 aileron 2 flap so you can do the easy mixing on Spektrum radios? At least that’s what I’m thinking for this type of bird…really not interested in some of the 3D stuff, but maybe I’m missing something. 1 flap would work too (given the type of flaps on the TT) I just wasn’t sure why you didn’t elect to use the radio’s crow option directly. Thanks! BTW bought this bird through your link this week.

[@TwoBrosRC]

No need for it. The flaps were left tied together.

[@stardustsparklin]

Great looking plane!! Lemme just add it to my cart and OMG!!! 😲🤨😔

[@TwoBrosRC]

You won't regret it man. It's expensive but daaaaamn is it good!

[@robieosborne7369]

I hope they come out with a suspension kit upgrade 😎

[@recoveryfpv8539]

Great flying and review, I never heard you talk about the price tag, $849, pretty hefty for a Horizon Hobby plane. Even if it is a 10/10. That price point puts that plane in with some pretty damn good competition. This piece is noticeably missing from a review video.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's more expensive than foam because it's plywood and balsa and constructed very rigidly. Truth is, we put in 17 hours total and were up until midnight editing this video and that's one of a few things we didn't remember to toss in. Once you get down to the wire, it's gotta be pushed out. With regard to the price, both the ARF and BnF are competitively priced with similar models. On top of that, this is a true BnF, not an ARF kit that you have to glue, install servos, install a motor, install the ESC, install the receiver, run wiring, etc. $850 for what you get is phenomenal pricing.

[@recoveryfpv8539]

@@TwoBrosRCWas not a criticism, just an observation. I appreciate your work, and do not claim to understand the sacrifices you make to do it. I feel like I do a lot for my channel and I have 100 subs. HaHa You are not incorrect, the model certainly holds value for the right person. I just think that price should be discussed in the video, you could have made those same very valid points to justify that price. That is what I love most about the hobby, if you have a smile on your face you are doing it right, and you are always smiling.

[@TwoBrosRC]

​@@recoveryfpv8539 No worries! We're usually to the point with comments. Apologies if it came across as defensive. Just trying to respond to everyone who comments if possible.

[@christhompson6606]

I would like to see a comparison of this Timber with the new OMP Big Horn 100" (cost, quality, capability). I fly the 49" version and it is a blast!. Nice flying and nice video Jon.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's a strong possibility.

[@airhammer6203]

Great review Jon, I really dig this plane!! but unfortunately I'd end up in the hole :).

[@TwoBrosRC]

Give it time, you'll buy one. It's too good not to have!

[@kenjackson5938]

Those spins would look fantastic with smoke production.

[@TwoBrosRC]

☁️

[@3DMOFO2020]

I don't believe this is the very first time HH has done a all wood Timber plane didn't they offer a glow/gasser powered one about 3 or 4 years ago Jon? Anyway fantastic job on the flights with it you should a 3 way Vs video with this new Timber Vs the OMP Big Horn to see which you enjoy flying more???😁😁

[@TwoBrosRC]

Bighorn is fun for just being goofy with a bush plane. Timber is incredible for doing big scale aerobatics. There's things both do very well but for different aerodynamic reasons.

[@3DMOFO2020]

@@TwoBrosRC Ok how about the FMS Super Cub?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Already posted vids on the 1700 and 1300 Super Cubs!

[@3DMOFO2020]

@@TwoBrosRC I know that Jon I just was wondering what are your feelings on those Vs this new Timber??

[@TwoBrosRC]

​@@3DMOFO2020 There's no comparison. Bigger flies better. Wood tends to fly better than foam.

[@JMTerry1984]

HH need to make a balsa EDF 👍🏻

[@Boeing767DriverAA]

Well time to sell my P.O.S. 1st Gen TT and get this upgraded version. I like that its wood and upgraded landing gear (FINALLY)!!! the 1st Gen landing gear was a very poor design. Sad that it took so long for E-flite to listen to the RC Community. Also, did they also solve the overheat problem like the first one??? I know there was a modification

[@TwoBrosRC]

There's an option in the manual to add extra cooling to this airframe if you're flying on hot days, but otherwise it should have no heating issues at all. The gear are stiff but you're never going to break them. The airframe will break long before the gear will. This is our favorite airplane so far - consider picking one up via bit.ly/TimberSWSBnF !

[@bgblindt]

How does this plane stack up against the Bushmaster?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's not a 3D airframe like the Bushmaster, so it's not something that can be directly compared.

[@bgblindt]

Thanks just doing cost comparison on my next plane. To give you props you make it look like a 3D frame!!!@@TwoBrosRC

[@TwoBrosRC]

We'd say go with the Timber SWS BnF over the Bushmaster. It can do enough 3D to be fun and interesting and it's less expensive because it comes stock with everything needed to fly. Assembly is also almost as easy as putting together a foam plane. There's literally no glue involved at all. While we love 3D airframes and have built several PA models, the Timber is hands down the easiest one we've done so far.

[@ssrattus]

Wing bolt slots aligned... OCD much? j/k lol Great video.

[@danwilkins3690]

Man someday someone is gonna realize that a lot of HH planes have "pointy noses!" But this one looks Good!

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's a good snoot.

[@danwilkins3690]

At least they're not all 'snooty!'

[@bgblindt]

Do you use 150% for servo travel on ailerons/rudder and elevator?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yep!

[@renaldolama9517]

Do you happen to know what's the biggest 3 bladed prop she can take?

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea, wouldn't recommend running a 3 blade over the 2.

[@tonysmith4142]

Is it possible to create a combo mix like your P-Mix 6 on a DX9 transmitter?

[@TwoBrosRC]

On the latest Spektrum firmware update, most likely!

[@tonysmith4142]

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks, I'll have a play...your screenshots refer to 'combo' switch, is this a physical switch?

[@Tallguysrc]

Great video

[@highdesertmisfitsrcclub2846]

Lol its always funny watching your reviews.. Its like getting a reveiw by a radio broadcaster. 😅 Did you get turned down for that radio job.. ?? 😂

[@TwoBrosRC]

Not sure if this is a compliment or a complaint 😆

[@highdesertmisfitsrcclub2846]

@@TwoBrosRC I'm sure. Right..

[@epoweredrc]

Thanks for the video, I just got my BNF plane yesterday and trying to get the radio set up. I hooked up the ailerons and flaps the way you did here to get the crow set up but I am a little confused about AS3X and SAFE. it seems I remember when you use channel 6 for the 2nd aileron you cant use SAFE anymore is that correct? not that worried about not having SAFE as i normally don't use it except to play around with .. but it seems my AS3X isn't working either now. shouldn't it still work? Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

You need to program the receiver so it understands what your wing and tail types are after making changes to run crow or full span flaps. Following this guide, you'll want to write down the AS3X values (if you plan to keep them), then factory reset the receiver from Other Settings in Forward Programming. Afterward, re-program it with the AS3X values you'd prefer to use. AS3X and SAFE can be enabled or disabled on the fly assuming you've set up Flight Modes in Forward Programming.

[@epoweredrc]

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks for the reply, Do you know of a good video showing how to go about this? I know they are some on the 637T but far as i know nothing on the newer Rx's

[@bgblindt]

John, what would you recommend for an alternative wood prop for the SWS?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Xoar propellers would work well. We upgraded the motor in ours and run a Xoar 16x8 white with red tips. A follow-up vid will get posted in the future.

[@bgblindt]

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks

[@MultiLEGODOG]

balsa is the way to go! sad to see them going away.

[@TwoBrosRC]

But they're not going away lol - this vid is a new balsa plane from HH.

[@MultiLEGODOG]

arrow works? is gone and a lot of others, hopefully I'm wrong but I haven't seen any @TwoBrosRc

[@MocapLatte]

what flight time can I get w a 3300mAh 6s ? thankx

[@TwoBrosRC]

Depends on how you fly.

[@ChainsawFPV]

Part of me is shocked they made another Timber. But the other part, the part that started flying planes with a original green Timber, kinda loves they made one with wood. She is big and looks beautiful. Too bad its to expensive for me. I will prob never even see one in person.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's a solid deal in both ARF and BnF form. Hopefully you'll get to try one!

[@jacobboone6078]

How’s the build quality and fit and finish compare to the foam timbers?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Absolutely phenomenal. The quality is leaps and bounds better - mostly because it's balsa sheeted with Monokote.

[@matthewsilicki6091]

I looks like the covering is very nice not a bunch of wrinkles like past hangar 9 planes. Can you verify this?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Seemed pretty good to us when putting the plane together. There were a couple of spots we'd hit with a covering iron (mostly just the notches cut for the floats that we had to do ourselves) but otherwise nothing out of the ordinary that we haven't seen with any other plane before.

[@martinfield7537]

Nice review Jon- thank you. You mentioned your preference for crow over full span flaps for landing. Is the idea there that the Timber will fly even slower with crow than full span flaps? Is stability comparable between the two?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It'll go really slow with FS flaps, but you run the risk of stalling it severely. We'll have to do some tests on the next video and see how slow we can get it.

[@martinfield7537]

Excellent, looking forward to that (“3 mistakes high”)!

[@WJdriver000]

Hey do you have any opinions on the original timber? I found a good deal on one and i’m new to flying.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Never had a chance to fly the original, but we've heard nothing but good about it. Give it a shot!

[@WJdriver000]

@@TwoBrosRC the guy ghosted me after making plans and setting things aside for 4 days straight. But less than a week later i found, goodwill had an in box original super cub for 60$ so I’m doing alright. First fixed wing flight soon

[@jessjoshwyatt3571]

Seems better than the kingfisher.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It should be considering it's like 3x more expensive.

[@Rcdoski]

The biggest problem I have with any HH product is they come out with something new and in 3 or so years you can't get or find any parts for it. What if car companies did that. You buy a new car and in 3 or so years you need a part for it and the dealer says, no parts are available for it so why don't you just buy another new car. Quite disappointing.

[@TwoBrosRC]

HH has been making strides in this department from our understanding. It should hopefully be much less of an issue going forward.

[@SwitchRod]

Chemtrails... Beautiful plane, great flying...great value. Yet, my heart remains broken...

[@whathasxgottodowithit3919.]

A timber with a Jet Engine, be careful what you wish for. It would not be a major job to put one of the small Xicoy Gas Turbine Turbo prop engine in the Turbo Timber 2.0 M

[@flyboywbl]

They need to do a 60cc size one with a turbo prop option

[@TwoBrosRC]

That'd be neat.

[@LufthansaAirways]

I once crashed my plane into a 50 foot tall tree, I got it from Temu and yet it survived a rain storm, A snow storm, and the 50 ft fall AND IT IS PERFECTLY FINE and yet the battery is one of those that are held in but are exposed.

[@givdulsen]

Could you compare the funcub and a timber? Would like to see a video like that! Great video btw!!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks! We don't have a FC and don't have any interest in spending $500 to get one. At least not in the immediate future, anyhow.

[@givdulsen]

@@TwoBrosRC ye. I get that. Love your videos! Keep making them!!

[@yamabushisama]

I have the t-28 2.0 and now i have to by the timber 2.0 im running outta space.... john please blink good video

[@TwoBrosRC]

Running out of space is a good problem to have. Please do consider picking it up from our affiliate link in the description. It's a huge help to the channel and the Timber is phenomenal. You'll love it when you get yours.

[@BashTillBroken]

Price is at least 10-20% high in my opinion with how many balsa models I have purchased but it’s more beginner friendly so there’s that

[@TwoBrosRC]

If anything it's very reasonably priced for what you're getting here.

[@djinn201]

I GET EVERYTHING 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👏👏

[@tennriverluver3534]

I am a bit confused how they are getting this much power out of that motor combo. I have the same setup in a 69inch Phoenix Stinson Reliant and while powerful it seems nothing like what this plane is putting out. Only difference is my Avian esc is not the reversing kind. Then again I've never tried hovering the Reliant, yet.🤣 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5DRmZx_ntR2qacsi=SscJOg9FLru3EXVU

[@TwoBrosRC]

It looks like yours has plenty of thrust, though. Try hovering it up high, it'll probably do it no problem.

[@IceMan2035]

I haven't tried landing on water.

[@TwoBrosRC]

You should, it's an incredibly fun experience.

[@IceMan2035]

Can you do a 6000 or 7000 battery on this one? I like my batteries kinda right under the cockpit are just a little in front of it. I have a lot of SMC batteries I bought a bulk of them. Most are 100cc but some are 75cc I just don't build small-scale planes. I prefer the Black Horse, TopRC, and Legend Hobby Warbirds. I will say I love that plane❤

[@Mark-jb9hx]

Horizon hasn't learned a single thing about wires. They nailed the EVO and then give us this garbage wiring like the Maule. Wing wiring like this is a non-starter.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's not hard to wire up at all. Calling it garbage is a bit dramatic.

[@Mark-jb9hx]

@@TwoBrosRC If Horizon put any thought into it at all, you wouldn't have had to zip tie them. I'm not dealing with all of those wires at the field.

[@jimcrackery8321]

Wood > Foam

[@TwoBrosRC]

In some respects, not in all.

[@jimcrackery8321]

@@TwoBrosRC I guess foam would be better for crashing into people.

[@jimcrackery8321]

@@TwoBrosRC I guess foam is better for crashing into people and property.

[@FlyTimeRC]

This plane is awesome! But $850... Need a second job to justify it.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Most balsa airframes cost quite a bit. This is one of the more affordable ones with everything included and no manual labor required to build it.

[@FlyTimeRC]

@@TwoBrosRC absolutely. If you got the money it would be sweet.

[@pfefferpezz]

Price is way way WAY off base! Hard pass based solely on that.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hard disagree there. It's a BnF woody. There's no real other options out there at this price point for what you get. Something like the EF Turbo Bushmaster costs more when you add a motor, ESC, servos, etc. This is a steal.

[@tbirdslot69]

Not made of expensive chinese foam? Nice...

[@Garrett053]

The hovering.. you know there have been made machines that are designed for hovering.. long, thinner wings that can rotate.. just kidding.

[@TwoBrosRC]

And they don't take skill to hover. No thanks!

[@Garrett053]

@@TwoBrosRC i can imagine. 😁👍

[@robertfpv7733]

lol it is made of wood and called a timber

[@TwoBrosRC]

🪵🪓

[@mclarencraze7373]

It’s 850 🥲

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yup. It's actually pretty competitively priced, too, when you factor in the cost of the components (compared to the ARF) and the amount of time it takes to build and assemble competing airframes. Most balsa kits require way more work than the Timber here did.