Hornby Railways R.058 B.R. Class 3F 0-6-0 Jinty

[@bobsmodelrailways]

A classic Loco, sold in the thousands. A stable favourite. Thanks for sharing.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning I wonder how many thousands in the end, It must’ve been a big number! Thanks again for watching taken the time to comment is hugely appreciated. Oscar

[@bobsmodelrailways]

Oscar Paisley Oscar, 27,000 of that model alone. Source: www.hornbyguide.com - well worth a look!

[@rydermike33]

A delightful model of the Jinty. Many thanks for sharing another piece of your wonderful collection Oscar.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Mike it’s terrific to hear you enjoyed the video thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@jedlahaye4765]

My original Jinty had a little headlamp in front of the smoke stack, it was a Triange NZ made, have two of them now, similar to your one but no cab details and motor set back futher, great video thankyou, keep well and safe

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Jed, great to hear you have those in you collection. Thanks again for watching, glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@1BCamden]

bought one new in the late seventies, never run, still in the original box which has been scuffed due to being repackaged over the years, great detail as always Oscar, much appreciated.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi it’s great to hear you have the an item in that condition. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@gordontaylor1483]

Hi Oscar, Good video on the Jinty variants. I have an older one with smoke but, as you say, unrealistic speed required to get any effect. I also have a Bachmann ‘weathered’ version which is a huge leap from the older one. All that said if you are having a shunting session then a Jinty pulling some trucks/carriages in reverse is an absolute must for realism. 😀

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Gordon glad you enjoyed the video and great to hear you have those versions of the locomotive. I’m yet to have a Bachman model in my collection! I must make a video soon with some of these models running at speed with the full smoke affect! Thanks again. Oscar

[@jonathanstanden3881]

It came with a separate driver\ fireman (black) n a little plastic bag which sat in the polystyrene holder at the front. A great little model altogether.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Jonathan thanks for the information and taking the time to watch. Oscar

[@russellbenton2987]

Nice one! Yep I got the red version .. lovely smooth runner . Nice to see layout in operation . 78 was an exciting catalogue but I always thought that one was a bit dark . There were also not too many layout scenes which I really love . The best one for that period was 1980 .

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Russell, great to hear you have the red version. I know what you mean about the imagery in the 78 catalogue. It’s definitely a very bold use of photography compared to what went before! You’re right about the 80 catalogue it really does show how the range can be used with the use of the layout pictures across the catalogue. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@clivecobbold6815]

Hi oscar another great video mate i remember i had that catalogue in that year I still have the class25 loco from that catalogue stay safe and well mate goodbye for now clive

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for watching Clive, great to hear you still have the class 25 from back then. Oscar

[@robinforrest7680]

Ah! Love a Jinty! I never had one of these later models, though I must have sold a few during my Saturday job at Gill & Sons Models and Hobies Sutton Coldfield in the early 80's! I had 47606 as my second loco, probably in about 1969 or 70. Fitted with syncrosmoke. I still have her today. When I got more serious about my modelling around age 14 I decided she'd make a good depot "pet" as a contrast to my heavily weathered black five and 9F so she acquired metal handrails, vacuum pipes from wire wound guitar string, a new unlined gloss black finish with pressfix late BR transfers and swanky red painted coupling rods. Apart from some very light weathering to the wheels and underframe she's pretty much ex.works. At the time Railway Modeller published an article explaining how to introduce a degree of compensation to the rigid Triang six-coupled chassis by cutting a slot though the chassis to the axle hole. It worked a treat on the dreadful mix of tired Super 4 and system 6 track I had at the time. When her motor gave up in the early 80's you could get an (I think Airfix?) 5-pole motor as a direct swap for the X04 so she has one of these. She's packed away at the moment with all my other railway stuff awaiting my retirement, but she was still going strong last time I had her out of the box about 8yrs ago!

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Robin, must been a great to have had a saturday job at the model shop, a dream job for many. Sounds like you had great fun with you Jinty and much more to come I imagine. I was just watching a video the other week on Mr Snooze's channel with one of those Airfix 1001 five pole motors being put into a Jinty kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5zZmXeabLFpepI his following video was a conversion of the a tri-ang motor bogie in the Brush Type 2 with the armature from an Airfx motor. I had herd of these motors but not yet tried one myself. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment its hugely appreciated. Oscar

[@robinforrest7680]

@@oscarpaisley I do enjoy these videos. Basically you built the layout we all dreamed of (including you I suspect) when we were kids. You know the ones in the track plans books and on the sleeves of the train sets, the ones we knew we or our parents would never be able to afford! Ah yes that was it thanks - the Airfix 1001 motor. I do wonder why they ever produced those since as far as I remember when they came out the only railway stuff they did were the old ex Kitmaster range. Later of course came the RTR class 31, Prairie tank, Royal Scot, Castle class and the rest of the Airfix model railway range. Bugger, I'm getting all nostalgic. Yep, at 16 it was my dream job. £5 for a days work and excellent for business since my first 5 weeks pay all went on my dream loco, a brand new Wrenn Clun Castle, a small fortune at £25!!

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Everyones favourite engine, the Jinty. It's a nice re-tooling and still with the original motor just moved forward to allow some cab detail. Enjoyable video as always. Cheers

[@thiruraj3866]

Who doesn't love a 3f jinty

[@williamscates3915]

I must say the motor and mechanisms at that point became plastic and in my opinion awful. The metal is so much better and plastic marked the cheap and then detailed and overpriced age :(

[@PaulinesPastimes]

@@thiruraj3866 👌

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Pauline, as you say a popular model with a much needed at the time upgrade over the original. Thanks again. Oscar

[@MrSnooze]

Hello Oscar, a very nice little Jinty, I don't have an example of this retooled version so excellent to see what it's like. You have certainly got it running well now. I wonder if those are the original brushes or if someone had fitted new before you got it. I too agree about the clip fit body, what a worry everytime you try to remove it, I think some plastic definitely becomes more brittle with age so it's good all your clips are intact. Very interesting to see all the Jintys together at the end, the acetate version is wonderful. Best regards to you

[@oscarpaisley]

Good Morning Mr Snooze, those brushes defiantly look a bit on the fresh side! and the carbon part itself look's to be larger than normal making the brushes hang at an unusual angle! The acetate Jinty is terrific and a lovely model to run. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@muttt.whopull3252]

My first train set was from around 1968, with what I remember a black Jinty, a flat wagon with a cable drum on it and brake van, circle of track or with two short straights to make an oval and a battery operated controller, would love to know if you have catalogue from around then with it in. Love looking at your videos, takes me right back.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi I've had a look and don’t see the set you describe. But from what i’ve read Tri-ang Hornby have over the years made many special sets for large stores and mail order houses. These could have had different packaging/ name / and a different assortment of contents than those generally show in the catalogues. Thanks for watching, its great to hear you are enjoying the video's Oscar

[@muttt.whopull3252]

@@oscarpaisley thanks for looking Oscar.

[@gs425]

I think those late models based on the X03 were fantastic. Quiet, smooth, and capable of good crawl speed. I believe the body is still basically the same as the recent hornby jinty, although chassis changed at least twice. It may not be finescale, but especially in SDJR livery it still looks stunning. In fact I'd suggest the recent SDJR blue jinty is a true bargain buy.

[@oscarpaisley]

You’re right you can get a lovely crawl with the X03 and it’s plastic gear set. Thanks again Oscar

[@RobA500]

Good morning Oscar, I have the very same model and they are indeed lovely runners. I also have the LBSC E2 which has the same chassis. When it comes to removing the bodies I use a small flat blade in the slot at the rear of the loco chassis I find it pops of whilst tilting forward quite easy. I've not got the service sheets so not seen the method they show at the front before. I have a few body shells from the earlier versions, the chassis are in pieces and the acetate shell I have is very warped. The next version has donated its buffers to a Wrenn Southern R1 which had lost one of its own.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Rob thanks for the info I’ll give that a try. The LBSC E2 is another one on my list to look for! Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@terryblackman6217]

Good morning Oscar. Yet again another very enjoyable and informative video. I have always had a soft spot for the jinty. I must try and get one for my layout. Many of them I have seen on ebay the lining is very badly worn. Just to let you know my wife loves to watch your videos as well. Big thank you. Terry

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Terry, I had been on the look out for one of these for some time and as you say there are many available with rather worn. This one looked ok on that auction site, the pictures were a bit dark and soft, it looked well used but not abused apart from the glued and broken vacuum pipes the finger makes were there but due to the lighting didn't really show there full extent! They must have sold these in the thousands I imagine and they were picked up and played with as intended I suppose probably being one of the models at the lower end of the range price wise and parents being prepared to take the risk, Hooking many into the hobby. Its great to hear your wife is enjoying the videos too, thank you both for watching. Oscar

[@trainsontuesday]

Thank you for another great video this week Oscar, Regards, David.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks again David glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@marksinthehouse1968]

I have the midland/LMS in a set with two clerestory coaches I never opened it it still sealed in plastic from beaties high Holborn in 1988 for £25 ,just incase I became a dad I did but it’s still sealed hehe mint in box ,great posting and it’s still around in the rail road range ,take care ,Mark 😊👍🏻

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Mark thanks for the information and great to hear you still have that set all sealed up a very nice item to have in your collection. Thanks again. Oscar

[@petervance318]

Great video, thank you Oscar, and wonderful smooth running. My first train set c.1967 was a Trix engine similar to this so perhaps it was a Jinty, with goods wagons, brake and oval of track. It arrived at Xmas and I have a photo of me playing with it on the dining room table. This stuff runs deep doesn't it. Thank you again.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Peter, that must be a very treasured photograph and amazing to have. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share that great memory it’s hugely appreciated. Oscar

[@chr1sda1sey]

The Triang/ Triang Hornby/ Hornby jinty is a lovely model. Hornby did one in LNER green 30 odd years ago. The 2 posi screws are not original to your jinty. I regard the chassis as one of Hornbys best as it runs well even on Trix c-track.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Chris thanks for the info I thought those posi screws weren’t original. Runs beautifully with those new type bearings. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@davidstrains4910]

Great video Oscar a very nice locomotive the jinty is

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks David glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@williamscates3915]

Great video Oscar. Love the X04 at that point. I have some older ones with a huge amount of windings. They pull loads and are so quiet running, even at low voltages. Must say I prefer the older locos to the ones at that point. The metal and simplicity (but it was still very detailed!) is better for a railway that plastic and cost today. Another great video and lovely codoyion locos. Where do you pick yours up from? Never seem to ind the bargains you do! Many thanks for a great video William

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning William the older models do have a lovely quality. I get the odd bits and pieces off that well-known auction site and and occasionally at shows although there have been many of those recently! And these dealers sites are very good. elaines-trains.co.uk/ daveangell.co.uk tri-angman.co.uk/shop/ Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@reliantrailways]

Great station pilot you have there!

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi thanks for watching it’s great to here you enjoyed seeing this locomotive in action. Oscar

[@petersmith4455]

hi oscar.i have both triang and hornby jinties. the triang one gets top marks as its more solid. they have cut costs with this loco and it looks cheap.i think hornby went through a bad period. at some time

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Peter you may be right about cutting costs. I’m definitely not a fan of the clip together body / chassis. I don’t know whether this was done to reduce costs or improve the overall look of the models. But it certainly seems cheap and flimsy. Thanks again. Oscar

[@ronaldmorritt4100]

Hi Oscar watched your Jinty video l have both those later models great little runners Ron

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Ron, thats great to hear, I shall have to get the maroon LMS one too! Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@geoffwalker315]

My first Jinty was the Triang model R 052, Loco number 47606. The motor lasted many years (1950's to 1980's).

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Geoff that’s great service from the one motor. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@WS-1]

Great review of this loco Oscar . The Jinty has indeed been a true stalwart of the Triang and subsequently rebranded eras . In particular I was quite impressed with the 70`s upgrade that this model received (having been used to the earlier variants ) but in the continuing trend towards detail over durability , I am not surprise about some of the concerns that you raised .

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi William great to hear you enjoyed the video.It definitely a great looking upgrade to the earlier long running and much loved model. I think you are right the focus from this point on was improve detail possibly at the expense longevity especially with other manufactures stepping up the game trying to capture a slightly older demographic. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@NedPooleD818]

Hi Oscar, I’ve always loved a Jinty as it was the first loco I was ever given- I remember as though it was yesterday the day trip to London (the excitement of arriving in the cathedral- like Waterloo, my hand aching from writing down all of the numbers of the 4SUB units!) and taking a trip (on a proper Routemaster bus) to Hamleys. After spending literally hours looking at the huge Scalextric and model railway displays I was treated to a bright red Jinty with the words ‘British Railways’ emblazoned across the sides. This wasn’t a Triang or Hornby version but a die cast toy from Budgie I think- do you or your viewers remember them? It had moving coupling rods so was great fun but I do remember the disappointment when I finally got my own OO train set to find the wheels didn’t fit on the track!! Happy Times- also loved the loco line up at the end of the video:-))

[@RobA500]

Hi Ned. Yes I have a bright red die cast Jinty as well not sure if its the same one but sounds familiar. Yes its wheel spacing is too narrow for OO track, probably just as well because it would have shorted out the system if left on track.

[@NedPooleD818]

Hi Rob, Sound like the one- it was a great push along loco to go with the corgi, dinky and matchbox cars of the time. Mine ended up painted rusty red round the back of the Airfix engine shed with ‘For Scrap’ written in Tippex on the sides!!!

[@richardmcgowan6383]

Yes, the red push-along BRITISH RAILWAYS Jinty! I've still got one somewhere. It came in a yellow cardboard box, which sadly I don't have anymore. I think this is the toy engine you see at the start of every episode of Bagpuss - Emily has one in the window of her shop. If they were still made, I'd buy one to put on my shelf.

[@NedPooleD818]

Hi Richard, great stuff- next to Professor Yaffle who was always my favourite!!!

[@robinforrest7680]

I still have my Jinty from I guess about 1969, with smoke, it's been repainted since and has wire handrails, vacuum pipes from guitar strings and crushed coal from the SVR in the bunker. One of the first detailing jobs I ever did when I was about 14. I decided it would be a good shed "pet", so it sports bright red coupling rods and apart from some very light weathering applied to the running gear is ex works gloss black. No lining though as this was beyond my capabilities at the time. Still love it and it runs well with an (I think Airfix?) 5-pole motor which was available as a straight swap for the X04 at the time. I did some primitive compensation on the chassis as presented in an article in Tailway

[@rogerking7258]

Hi Oscar, your late sixties model is the same as the one I had, with see through wheels, but I received mine in the early sixties, probably 1963; so perhaps mine was one of the first. I couldn't agree more about cheap and nasty clip fitted bodies. All my early stuff was screwed together and all my later stuff is screwed together. Perhaps Tr-iang/Hornby went through a "British Leyland" period in the seventies and eighties where they only produced poor quality products! By the way, I always thought that the Jinty was the very epitome of a tank engine.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Roger, i’m definitely not keen on this business of clipping models together. I’m sure the plastic deteriorates over time and becomes more brittle. It definitely seems to have been a design principle they followed extensively from the mid 70s across the range. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@jonathancoe2358]

Ah the Jinty I now have 7 of varying vintage including this one!

[@oscarpaisley]

Good evening Jonathan that sounds like a great collection of Jinty,s. Thanks Oscar

[@NedPooleD818]

Sounds like a great collection- I wonder what the collective noun for a group of Jintys is? A jamboree perhaps?:-)

[@DaraM73]

I’ve just picked up the 1988 version, and a little nervous by its lack of motor access for service. Looks like something from a Tyco-SFX micro scalextric car?

[@foxhillrailway2252]

great informative video Oscar... oh the Jinty

[@oscarpaisley]

Glad you enjoyed it. Oscar

[@martinhinsley6198]

Hi Oscar. .Very nice review of the old Jinty`s. Could you let me know where you obtained or downloaded the service sheet from. I too have a red Jinty R.052 (as yet unused, not even received a jolt of electricity yet. Many thanks

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Martin here is The link I think you’re looking for www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=46 hope this is of some help there are many other service sheets available for this website. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

Nice loco got that loco runs good keep up the good work keep putting up videos up

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi great to hear you enjoyed the video and thanks for the encouragement. It’s hugely appreciated. Oscar

[@TheTWRModeller]

This model has been the longest-serving workhouse of all model railways mostly Hornby yet Bachmann has made a highly-detailed version of it.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi it’s definitely been around for awhile. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@TheTWRModeller]

@@oscarpaisley Suppose one of those was made into a Midland Railway 1377 Class 0-6-0T?

[@paulosman3369]

Hi Oscar Don't we all love the jinty unfortunately I only have 5 of the old triang ones so will have to look at the wheels as they slightly hit the rail sleepers as you know I am putting down new track. Peco code 100. Pics to follow. Hornby done a nice job of the loco . They always seem to run well. Regards Paul osman

[@oscarpaisley]

Afternoon Paul sounds like you have a bit of a collection of those. As you say some of those wheels can be a problem but it’s amazing sometimes they run just fine! Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@Finnertoncentralmodelrailway]

Mine is a early 2000s model love it

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi that’s great to hear thanks again for watching.. Oscar

[@andrewr2825]

I wished you didn’t show us the wonderful Jinty, Oscar! Now I need to find an excuse to have one on my SR layout! And finding the subjects for your Sunday treat followers never finds you short of ideas! Maybe an episode on the array of catalogues? That would surely fill in 52 Sundays easily😀

[@oscarpaisley]

Good evening Andrew glad you enjoyed the video I’m sure you’ll figure out an excellent excuse! Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@srduke]

16:44 I notice that the RHS logos on the late 60s and the 78 versions are the opposite way round. I seem to remember that BR had an issue with copyright on this subject.

[@davidstrains4910]

Yes that is true and it is rare thing to find on a model my jinty has it too

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi from what I've read Tri-ang started producing models of the Jinty with the lion facing left on both sides some time in 1965. I'm not sure if this was related to copyright or not, I would love to know more if anybody has further information. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment its much appreciated. Oscar

[@davidstrains4910]

Oscar Paisley here is the story Oscar I heard ot from Barrie Davis a few years ago in one of his videos. In 1948 the big four were merged to make British railways but they didn’t have a totem to put on the locomotives so for some years locomotives went around with the words ‘British railways’ on the tender then in the 50s they made the first totem which is called the cycling lion or the type 1 totem, in the late 50s British rail thought they were getting more modern so they applied for a totem to be made for them by the royal college of heralds which makes heraldry which is very important material because it has to be designed and approved by the state before one can be used so British rail submitted a design to the royal college of heralds with the lion facing the direction the locomotive would travel in but it was only the left side one that was made and approved so when BR realised they thought that they would reverse it so it would look athletically nice on the right hand side but when people realised BR got into a lot of trouble for this and the story is that it went right to the high courts and even lord longford got involved and in the end BR had to get rid of the right hand side one and use the left hand side one that was made for them on the right hand side which is why on most models you see the lion facing backwards on the right side of the locomotive. This model of the unity would be depicting one that had the incorrect heraldry design on it I hope I have explained it well

[@srduke]

@@davidstrains4910 Yes! That's where I got it from but I had it in my mind it was copyright not an issue regarding heraldry. Thanks for that 😊👍

[@astrochaos4182]

Have this exact one but it’s really slow

[@melplows1078]

Nice video Oscar just made a meccano uncoupling spoon like your plastice i just used 3bits of meccano nd 2 nuts and bolts all the best Mel nz

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Mel that sound like some great work with the Meccano. Thanks again. Oscar

[@gs425]

I Would have pushed out the remains of the vacuum pipe with a small paper clip or similar from the inside, then you can either leave it as delivered or fit a replacement.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, great idea however there is a fair bit of cement been used I’m not sure what’s left will come out without further damage. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@PlatformONE]

Is it me, or do the running rails look taller than other model track?

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning all the track is Tri-ang Super 4 and has a considerably larger profile than Code 100. The railhead is approximately 6.7 mm above the baseboard. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@peterbaker7963]

I've seen you use in other video an eclectically operated uncoupling ramp. Which one are you using?

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Peter, its a cobbled together sort of thing with Super 4 track and Hornby's R.8244 uncoupling ramp with one of there surface mounted point motors. I've included a link to a video that shows how I crudely assembled them. They work well provided the couplings are well adjusted. But I think that goes for most embedded ramps. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@combatbunny9820]

Nice some more interesting entertainment today.

[@oscarpaisley]

Glad you enjoy the video. Oscar

[@tmdrm9817]

I have R.52 lovely model. But mine is in BR Black no47606

[@oscarpaisley]

That’s great to hear thanks for watching. Oscar

[@melplows1078]

Nice video again Oscar just made a unco

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Mel glad you enjoyed it. Oscar

[@thiruraj3866]

The jinty looks like a Thomas model just with some differences

[@davidstrains4910]

Check out a video by youtube user Johns amazing trains because they did a video on all the thomas models that have been made but it also featured a clip of a triang jinty made to look like thomas the video is the history of thomas the tank models

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi similar yes but from what I read I think the Hornby Thomas model was based more around their body moulding for the southern E2. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@JCNUMBERand]

Did you just say the F word in this video!?