Hornby's New Rebuilt W1 Hush Hush | Unboxing & Review

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@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Rebuilt Hush-hush, known as the"Loud-Loud" by engine crews. Both the LNER and BR were slightly at a loss how to use it, but it usually hauled Leeds-King's Cross expresses. Although quick and reliable, it wasn't as lively as an A4 and not quite as popular with crews as the A4 either. (As the nickname suggested, it was loud even by the standards of a normal steam engine) But it did do a good job, and it was a tragedy that it was withdrawn in 1959.
@andrewchapman2039
@andrewchapman2039 2 жыл бұрын
Super super mild point here: the slope at the front of the tender would technically still help as streamlining even if it's going the "wrong" way. It promotes smooth airflow behind the cab instead of turbulent air, preventing a reverse sucking force from being generated by low air pressure and pulling the locomotive backwards slightly as it moves. Whether this is the actual reason they're there I don't know, all I have is a couple days of experience putting random objects in a wind tunnel.
@Poliss95
@Poliss95 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at photos of the real thing the coal was much higher.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing folks - very interesting stuff! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TheLoachman
@TheLoachman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Poliss95 It could also be much lower towards the end of a long trip.
@pettra1
@pettra1 2 жыл бұрын
Decent loco with proper mechanism. Relieved that the dodgy wheels under the cab didn't cause any derailments. Quality control Hornby, quality control, as well as less than exorbitant pricing. Pleased that this Hush-hush was way better than the previous effort Sam, and also really pleased you got a refund on that. Best, Pete.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete - yes the only good thing about them being miles off the track is that they can't cause derailment.... bit of a lazy design though! Definitely a huge improvement overall though! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@97wolffang
@97wolffang 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous loco. Still won't be getting it though as even at £217, I can't afford it. This hobby is becoming rapidly unfeasible for me this year.
@acescionti711
@acescionti711 Жыл бұрын
I’ve actually just bought the last 1 of these rebuilt W1 models. As of the time of making this comment. I just now after 12 years started buying Hornby models. I’ve wanted them for so long. Today. I got the “mallard record breaker “ set. And I’m absolutely in love. It’s my first set. And I’ll definitely be collecting mallard in her proper LNER configuration. As well as anniversary edition models of her. I hope to one day own a live steam one. Greasley is my favorite locomotive designer. Despite the fact that I’m American. I look forward to enjoying my hornby models for years to come
@steffenseitter4791
@steffenseitter4791 Ай бұрын
I like Gresley too, despite the fact that I'm German. :D
@acescionti711
@acescionti711 Ай бұрын
@@steffenseitter4791 hey hey. My fellow enthusiast. I’ve since received the hush hush in question and enjoy it it’s one of my most ran models. I’ve also bought a bunch of other models from hornby and enjoy them all. I suppose I should say gute nacht. Have a good night 😃
@exarkun42
@exarkun42 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Hornby: you will make more money if more people can afford your models. Comparing the tender with the tender on my original Hush Hush, it looks like the same tender but with streamlined modifications. The performance reminds me of my original one (I was lucky to get a good one). If your rebuilt one is like my original one, the performance will continue to improve. Good to see that one perform well, after what happened with the originals I was scared to buy a rebuilt one; but not so much now. I may go for a rebuilt one at some point. Cheers mate, and keep up the good work!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing - and I agree - they would sell more if they were more affordable... maybe this isn't their goal any more? :( Still not 100% recommended at the new prices, but at least you get a decent loco! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 2 жыл бұрын
Decent review there Sam this I my preferred W1, I just really like it in its rebuilt form and especially in garter blue it looks amazing.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot David - this sure was better than the last one! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@DTChapman1
@DTChapman1 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a similar story to you really. Dodgy un-rebuilt W1 that I sent back. The main difference though is that they sent me a new un-rebuilt W1 and it ran far smoother. It's actually one of the smoothest in my collection. I think what happened is that Hornby rushed the pre-order W1s so that they can get to their customers before Christmas, seeing as the model had various delays. (I pre-ordered mine back when the model was first announced so I actually got mine for £200). Now though I think all W1s that Hornby will make are going to be the same quality. We just had to wait for another month of production.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing - fantastic to hear you managed to get a smoother unrebuilt one - fingers crossed I'll be able to find one like that some time! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@stratman9449
@stratman9449 2 жыл бұрын
got my original one from hornbys at 150.- as they reduced the price due to a new IT system....i didn't complain....:-)
@AVFCAM
@AVFCAM 2 жыл бұрын
Often think the crawl test isn’t really fair on DC…I know that they all have the same thing, but DCC always gives a better crawl…
@georgebottarini1788
@georgebottarini1788 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam good to see Hornby can produce a decent loco. I just got the promotional hush hush apple green lner. It’s a beauty and runs well.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot George - oh wow that does look a beauty, enjoy! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Daan_0172
@Daan_0172 2 жыл бұрын
The tender is now being used by 60009 is one that used to belong to number 10000, I don’t know if that tender was in use with it’s original or rebuilt shape, but a part of the engine is still with us.
@steffenseitter4791
@steffenseitter4791 Ай бұрын
That Corridor Tender was used from 1929 to 1948, when BR decided to couple 60700 with the Tender of William Whitelaw.
@GaryNumeroUno
@GaryNumeroUno 2 жыл бұрын
Yes mukka, I'm very angry with the gouging a&$#holes at Hornby. I ordered the complete APT train last year with a reputable retailer. Prior to Xmas I received all the extra coaches I had ordered (but not the 5 car set with a powercar & driving trailers) Then this month the retailer said the five car set was soon to be sent to me but, the price had shot up! I was stuck... I almost told them to jam it where it should hurt but then I would have been stuck with all the extra coaches! (I suppose I could have modelled a scrap yard where most if the coaches ended up in reality but I had already spent a fortune!) Not having much choice I have paid the extra funds to acquire the 5 car set to complete the train. I am not happy at all... very disgraceful business sense. I won't be buying any more Hornby stock any more. Will just stick to the second hand market from now on. Thanks for an interesting review. (I bought the original Hush Hush and apart from a couple of loose parts seems ok. The stupid flangeless wheels are nonsense. I have replaced the wheels with proper ones and as such made the loco to a static display model now. Stay safe. Regards from Oz. Gaz
@gabrielcalangi1316
@gabrielcalangi1316 2 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful locomotive there Sam...the details are nice and I think Spencer is a little grumpy on the shelves looking at you reviewing the longer sized version of him haha
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gabriel - haha yeah maybe Spencer has been upstaged?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@greatunwashed1856
@greatunwashed1856 2 жыл бұрын
Had the “Sir Nigel Gresley” all Metal, pick up shoes in the middle, when I was 12, I’m 75 now. Ah Memories.
@tgeiii3554
@tgeiii3554 2 жыл бұрын
This is one review I didn’t expect considering the fact that the original loco didn’t go so well.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah! The last loco just spurred me on to try another though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@michaelmitchell6476
@michaelmitchell6476 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that the UK experimented with a Hudson type locomotive would have been cool if they’d made it to production
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The tender attached to the W1 still survives, with A4 60009 Union Of South Africa
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 2 жыл бұрын
A locomotive we will never see running on the railways again as Union of South Africa is being put in a museum its owner has made to display the train and other items he owns ☹
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating Luke - I didn't know that! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
@lukeslocomotives 2 жыл бұрын
@@bentullett6068 Yeah I know. Such a shame really, knowing that 'no. 9' won't grace the mainlines at 75mph again. =(
@jimeagle5800
@jimeagle5800 Жыл бұрын
My my that is one ugly looking loco. Wouldn't have that thing on my railway. No offence just one mans opinion
@markmclellan7146
@markmclellan7146 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to getting into debt, this hobby is getting almost as bad as gambling. People need to be really careful about addiction. As I've said before, ask yourself if you really 'need' this...
@markdunwell3288
@markdunwell3288 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Sam. I happy you have acquired a W1 that works properly. Still its a pity you have to be a railway modeller who works for a merchant bank to afford one . Great video Sam thank you 👍
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely way way way overpriced Hard to see where the cost has gone for such a simple design But classic Hornby when it comes to the performance Bachmann have the better detail but Hornby have superior performance
@alanlansdell7533
@alanlansdell7533 2 жыл бұрын
The window on the tender actually looks like it was made to be fitted from the inside, not stuck on from the outside.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does - but they're all built like this - the last Hush Hush I looked at was the same! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@SuperJ333
@SuperJ333 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I also think it's totally unacceptable that a loco, astronomically priced at £250 of your Earth pounds, can't even negotiate a 2nd radius curve at slow speed without stalling?
@AdiPullen
@AdiPullen 2 жыл бұрын
Hi sam Hope you are well? A very honest review. It look stunning Am waiting for the silver version that due out summer. Hope the prices don't go up again before then. I believe it is shorter than the original w1 from what I remember Keep safe arp
@mickboakes7023
@mickboakes7023 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. That rear bogie ruins it for me. Surely Hornby could have designed it so that the unflanged wheels did at least touched the rail and turned
@dduck1585
@dduck1585 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, 1 star for quality, trailing bogie not touching the rails is inexcusable, Sam way to generous with the ratings, back handers from Hornby?
@paulweston8755
@paulweston8755 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review Sam and pleased to see that this version of the hush hush is a lot better than the previous one. Keep up the good work matey 👍
@Readdisyougey
@Readdisyougey 2 жыл бұрын
25:27 Does anyone else see the rear bogey lifting from the ground it looks like it’s stuck in place turned
@1225polarexpress
@1225polarexpress 2 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for a video, doubleheader with rebuilt LNER W1 and Mallard
@roguerailroader4132
@roguerailroader4132 2 жыл бұрын
Ok well that explains why I thought you tricked me. I seriously thought that this was just going to be a review of some new Mallard or other A4. Well done for clearing that up in a hot minute.
@mewtheenigma2732
@mewtheenigma2732 2 жыл бұрын
I find it rather amusing that in your case, history repeated itself like the real-life example, Sam. The original W1 having its problems, and then the rebuild working wonderfully. Glad I bought this version and not the original, at any rate. Ironically because the real-life version worked better rebuilt, too!
@Oorail
@Oorail 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review Sam! I think you've shown over and over that you can take apart a loco and put it back together without breaking it. People should stop giving you a hard time and enjoy your videos instead. What type of coach are you basing your calculations on at the end in the score sheet? I was able to get both the W1 and the rebuild W1 to reliably pull 29 Mark 1 coaches, so your calculation of 33 is pretty close... You can see it in action at kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGGof3V9Ypx8mJY ... looking forward to your next video!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much John - I don't take those trolls very seriously! When I gathered all the data for the coach testing, I used a mixture of all the coaches from my collection - so this included modern coaches with fine metal wheels, and also older ones with the chunkier plastic ones... the idea being that my numbers can give a good rough indication of what a loco will manage regardless of the coaches. It's not 100% accurate though of course - and my figure only works for straight and level track (which is less useful, but that's where the tests were conducted) Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 2 жыл бұрын
I've got every Hornby W1 now, I love each one of them
@jamestheredenginefan5268
@jamestheredenginefan5268 2 жыл бұрын
Dear God It Just Seems To Float Along The Line I'd Give That A 10/10
@jamestheredenginefan5268
@jamestheredenginefan5268 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnshepherd3497 It's A Figure Of Speech (Btw I Do Understand That You Are Joking)
@connorsutherland2005
@connorsutherland2005 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's true, but I hear that the tender from the W1 is still around and it's with A4 pacific No.60009 union of South Africa.
@tivednagol9127
@tivednagol9127 2 жыл бұрын
D Rails needs to experience as much financial support from its customers as possible.
@steffenseitter4791
@steffenseitter4791 Ай бұрын
I have the Early BR Era 4 Variant of the W1; in Garter Blue with "British Railways" Lettering and non-Corridor Tender; mine has modern electric couplers between Loco and Tender.
@OldSonyMan
@OldSonyMan 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't bought a 'new' loco in 20 years and with prices like this, I won't be buying any anytime soon ! I do wonder if the prices in the second hand market will go up (as they have done in the car market) but maybe the 'industry's reliance' on Chinese manufacturing has now come back to 'haunt them' !
@FormallyknownasE100
@FormallyknownasE100 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you have a working example and happy to know you are getting a third one. Does seem like a great loco this time round. I would personally not give 5 star on the detail without firebox flicker or something like that. The window on the rear of the tender is atrocious too. The valve gear is a particular highlight though. Your use of the P2 is actually perfect as they shared the same/very similar boiler type post W1 rebuild. Unfortunately after my two 812's and APT I can't justify it for the price. Nevertheless, I'm still happy to have 2 812's and no W1. The APT always holds a special place in my heart and whilst there are some things I'd have hoped to have for the money I'm very happy with it. It's very expensive but then again it is an entire train. Do you have any plans to do any DMU/EMU's at all? Your Derby Lightweight review inspired me to get one. Aware though that you can often do 2 steam/diesel engines for the price.
@toainsully
@toainsully Жыл бұрын
I can picture a TTTE story involving Spencer's past (before he was purchased by the Duke and Duchess of Boxford), where Hush-Hush gave their life to save Spencer when Diesels started replacing Steam
@a.r.productions
@a.r.productions 2 жыл бұрын
Now this may be a conspiracy but as far as I know the Hush Hush's tender actually still exits, its the tender that 60009 Union of South Africa has. Apparently though, it may just be a rumor 🤷🏽‍♂️
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 2 жыл бұрын
you're wrong about her scraping. The original tender that the W1 was coupled to is now coupled to preserved A4 No.60009 Union Of South Africa. The tender number is 5484. I was able to stand on the tender fore plate while I was visiting Britain a few years ago and I could feel the presence of the W1 while standing on the tender fore plate. The W1 lives on today, though just the tender, but 10000 still lives on today!
@samuraifool912
@samuraifool912 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this a Few Weeks later, after my 'Send it Back' due to Rear wheel issue..! I had the Thought would..?? "Adding the Flanged Rear wheels make that Rear Pony look at least Cosmeticly better..??" Mainly because if the 'un flanged' wheels are No Where near the Track, they are not going to interfere with the Cornering with Flanges on..!? Just a thought...! "Don't Shoot me Down in Flames for it..!!" It just may help In a Cosmetic appearance..! If not, send the Bugger Back £200 and 4 wheels don't even move...! Blah...!! Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
@BattleshipOrion
@BattleshipOrion 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my lordy. Have I seen some reviews about recent Hornby models. Glad I canceled my Amtrak Availa Liberty pre-order...nice as always to have an engine in one piece though ain't it? As far as my foreign collection (models for other countries), I'm turned away from most 7K models, which sad considering how pretty some are. But I gotta stick to my guns & vote with my wallet. I heard Marklin is decent, and I kinda have a thing for German locomotives, ships & tanks right now. I'd love to one day own an A4, but can't. Not even now American Diesels are in my budget. Gotta get a vehicle so I can find better work.
@samuraifool912
@samuraifool912 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Hornby, thats a No-No. Wheels not touching the Track or Rails is Unforgivable. If that were Mine. It would Go Back on that issue Alone..! Massive fail for the Absurdly priced Train. The fact that the Rear wheels will not move, Destroying any Sense of Reality is BLAHH..! And I haven't seen the Rest of Sams Review yet..! But Sam, Put it back in the Box and Return the Thing. Just Because they are 'Toys', Doesn't mean that People who buy them should be Treated like Spoilt Children. Rant over, now back to the Horror Show..! Good work Sam..! 😎
@mikehaufe6635
@mikehaufe6635 2 жыл бұрын
.......for "speedo" read "mechanical lubricator rod.......... and you are right, very fiddly, and not in the guide!!!!!
@magnificus8581
@magnificus8581 2 жыл бұрын
Very, very, very expensive. Sighs after paying $700 for my new Brawa 70018, German Express Train Locomotive BR S2/6 of the K.Bay.Sts.B. (DCC Sound Decoder)
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, the tender rear porthole is clearly assembled on the wrong side ! That's a mistake I had not done at the age of 12 with my WWII plane models... Good mechanism, nice drivetrain except for the Cartazzi axles at the end, not touching the tracks, but fair performance. Except the dull finish, the rear axles in the air and the tender porthole assembled inside out, it's a nice engine. Problem : RRP of GBP 240. Shall not be above GBP 170 to be acceptable on such an engine. That's the no-go for me. I'm in for Hornby's forthcoming 9F and Black Five (and the reissue of their BoB, and I hope they will not screw the retailer like what they have done here. By the way, great move to warn us about the speedo mounting while opening the engine. I take your advice about the V2 difficulty of opening to buy a DCC fitting service from Rails of Sheffield, GBP 15 for this is always cheaper than a messed-up engine (The Model Centre offers this too). I'm expecting my V2 next week, I'll see her on DCC for the firebox light, I'll lete you know.
@9501599
@9501599 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh £220 that's $440 NZ plus freight. I'm not a steam lover but if I was, and I know other modelers that love their steam locomotives, that would mean I'd have to buy Bachmann or Heljan. The price of Hornby's locomotives cannot keep going up before they over price themselves out of the market. $400 plus dollars for a locomotive NO WAY!
@chrisvaughan159
@chrisvaughan159 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you have an actual "silk purse" at last. Is it worth the money - how can it be? If the criteria for paying £200.00 + is that the unit works, I'm sorry they should all work, whatever the price. They should all have metal handrails which don't snap when you pick the thing up. like the plastic moulded "wire" Hornby cares for so much,. You may have gathered I don't care for Hornby much, any more. My problem, I know, but keep up the good work and keep on outing poor manufacturing or customer service. ?I wonder if Hornby still send out their loco's in "rattle boxes"? All the best Chris.
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these because it would be rude not to. It’s pretty sweet, but a shame it doesn’t have the gloss finish of the Locomotion Mallard Ltd Edition. The original streamlined W1 got scrapped prematurely by BR because it didn’t have a spare boiler to swap in at overhaul time. And the LNER region were over-efficient at scrapping loco’s, presumably due to lack of space. But the actual corridor tender off the W1 still exists on No. 9 “Union of South Africa”.
@TallboyDave
@TallboyDave 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much; but also, there wasn't any equivalent of Woodham Bros. in the East or North-East; Cashmore's, C F Booth, and other companies didn't have the big backlogs of surplus goods stock to work through like Barry Scrapyard had.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew - yes the finish could have been a little better in my opinion too - but overall a decent looking loco! Appreciate the info - that's a real pity :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@John-Tropi
@John-Tropi 2 жыл бұрын
As always, a thoroughly competent and articulate review, but maybe a little too forgiving. When 10-coupled locos like a 9F can perform with all flanged wheels, it is absolutely unforgivable that Hornby could not better design the traiing wheels on this W1. That is an abomination - at ANY price. For me, truly and sadly, that fatal flaw makes it a definite "Don't buy". It's a crying shame.
@Twisty2012
@Twisty2012 2 жыл бұрын
Funny... Sir Nigel Gresley had the hush hush rebuilt into the streamlined form because the original didn't work very well... the rebuilt Hush Hush was a decent loco. History kind of repeating itself in model form??!! Lol
@KS-oc4hu
@KS-oc4hu 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, pretty ridiculous pricing for what is a very basic plasticky model with no special features, eg no firebox glow, no lighting. And those rear wheels are just ridiculous, I don't understand why Hornby keep using this stupid design on UK models, Rivarossi, Electrotren models (which are Hornby as well) have proper flanged rear wheels that swivel, without any major gap either.
@Sideways101100
@Sideways101100 2 жыл бұрын
This review makes me kinda disappointed. Not because your review was bad or the loco was bad, your review was great as always and the loco performed greatly. However, this is my least favourite of the two Hush Hush designs, I much prefer the unrebuilt, and it makes me sad that THAT loco was the worse performer, and even bigger shame that other people's Hush Hush's that I watched on KZbin had theirs working ok when yours was an unlucky Tart class. I hope one day in the future if the prices are down you'd get another unrebuilt that has better luck than your last experience, but for now I can make do with this one. Great review as always Sam
@themightyhood-4117
@themightyhood-4117 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many people back then passed or even rode the real Hush-Hush just assuming it was a normal A4...
@timtheeagle1
@timtheeagle1 2 жыл бұрын
How does Hornby have customers anymore? Everyone should make a collective agreement to stop buying from them for a year and see how their customer care changes! Crooks! Glad it works better, but I don't see how a loco with 4 of the wheels floating above the track gets a 5/5 on detail :) ...and for that price! Wowza! Keep up the good work Sam.
@brettmartin6727
@brettmartin6727 2 жыл бұрын
It's slowing on corners and struggling to haul the load requiring a minimum of 50% power despite spun bearings and a flywheel. Those things are window dressing. The mechanism features a motor which is too small for the purpose and clearly there are issues with friction loses (frame and powertrain?). Anyway it adds up to another cheap poor mechanism and I disagree with the high rating (purely subjective of course). Looks like I'll be relying on white metal kits and hoping I can do a better job - the latest OO Guage RTR Steam Locos are very poor. I really can't stand the pony truck issue, hire competent engineers please Hornby and Bachman.
@phil36310
@phil36310 2 жыл бұрын
Oefff ! A least a good runner ! But what a shame that the radials don't touch the rails. It looks toy like. And regarding the finish: Bachmann is still a locomotive length ahead. Insane price tag. I'll pass and have another K1 or J15 or even a S15. Sound included they're still cheaper than this Rebuild W1. Success with it Sam and thanks for sharing this splendid & honest review. Love it ! Cheers
@denischick2519
@denischick2519 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sam but I wish people would stop saying ‘unrebuilt’. It’s a poor use of English - it’s either ‘original condition’ or ‘rebuilt’. You can’t ‘unrebuild’ something. And the handrails are clearly metal, just try gently bending them, it would be ultra clear if they were plastic.
@marc_abby
@marc_abby 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a review of the Hornby British Rail 60163 Tornado Aberdonian Pack (R3828) ? great video 😁
@DanielNeedham2500
@DanielNeedham2500 2 жыл бұрын
If you watch Hornby: A model world, Simon Kohler is examining this model prototype before giving it the ok for production. Even then you can see the trailing wheels off the track. Simon Kohler should have gone to Specsavers.
@alantoms3263
@alantoms3263 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sam, I've got to disagree. Having a NEM socket on the front should be removable - it isn't. It requires minor surgery to remove it's ugly presence. Al.
@MrVorpalsword
@MrVorpalsword 2 жыл бұрын
So the original was withdrawn because it didn't work very well ..... and the re-built one worked fine. In other words Hornby have made super realistic models ... should cost double for that level of authenticity ( which I suppose they did).
@mikehaufe6635
@mikehaufe6635 2 жыл бұрын
.... the item came from Hornby well wrapped in a an additional plastic sleeve and a close fitting box. All this in a larger box padded with packing paper. and heavily taped.... a different experience to your previous one with Hornby!!
@eisenbau
@eisenbau 2 жыл бұрын
Could we please have just 1 review where you don't moan about some aspect of Hornby? Yes, you do sound like a broken record. Price is what people will pay, not necessarily cost of manufacture. Apple is a good example, iPhones do little more than Android, cost no more to produce, but sell for considerably more.
@blinard1
@blinard1 2 жыл бұрын
How much?!?!
@the_failed_states
@the_failed_states 2 жыл бұрын
Time and time again in business a big player incumbent, monopoly or duopoly believes they have the market to themselves. They get lazy, greedy and complacent. Along comes a disrupter and boom, it's all over. The good will has been pissed up the wall, the retailers aren't making margins and are being treated like... some sort of second, or third class, or tiered citizen. It has to happen. Modern manufacturing, an increasingly informed and educated customer base - means that hopefully soon hornby and bachmann will get a kick up the rear end, and they'll stop taking punters and retailers for mugs.
@MayoHosko
@MayoHosko 2 жыл бұрын
You see Hornby if you force us to buy exclusively from you we’ll boycott you and buy elsewhere. I guess Hornby wants to say goodbye to their customers. Still better than Bachmann. I like this rebuilt hush hush much more
@LonleyScrapIron
@LonleyScrapIron 2 жыл бұрын
10:53 the more I take a look at it, it does look a little infuriating especially since the back wheel doesn’t have an axel box. Still, could be worse
@paulcavanagh9370
@paulcavanagh9370 2 жыл бұрын
Having recently rejoined the hobby after many years I am absolutely shocked at the cost of even the most basic of running stock. Whilst I can accept technology will inevitably increase the cost of some items, to so see the cost of some wagons approaching £25 to £30 I wonder how the younger enthusiasts can ever get into the hobby.
@mrcdales
@mrcdales 2 жыл бұрын
Another overpriced plastic A4 MEAN HUSH HUSH still a poorly made model in my opinion looks like a toy not a model
@donquichote2024
@donquichote2024 2 жыл бұрын
I will never understand these flangeless rear wheels of Hornby locos. What's the idea behind this? Why not a normal trailing rear pony every other brand has no problem with???
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video today Sam beautiful modle would love to get one
@edwardvincentbriones5062
@edwardvincentbriones5062 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Oliver Bulleid became Sir Nigel Gresley’s (personal) assistant in LNER before he became CME of SR. So, he had a considerable influence from him. According to the LNER info website, the shape of the A4 series were inspired when both men saw a Bugatti (whereever they did go). I think 1930’s Bugatti were wavy on their looks and design so, it makes sense.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
That's fascinating Edward, thanks a lot for sharing this! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@edwardvincentbriones5062
@edwardvincentbriones5062 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Coincidence. I just watched your first Salvage or Scrap episode and it is on its end stage. But thanks for the praise.
@chrisdee5032
@chrisdee5032 2 жыл бұрын
I've just ordered the 60700 version from Hornby. Fingers crossed its worth keeping!
@TIMMEH19991
@TIMMEH19991 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you got one Sam, Looks like I missed the boat with this one. Yet another thing to be annoyed about with Hornby........
@W.Parker08
@W.Parker08 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, I have a locomotive that isn't very good and I'd like to see if you could fix it? I don't know how to show you it or like show you a picture though, could you help
@stevedoggart2805
@stevedoggart2805 2 жыл бұрын
I think Hornby are relying on the nostalgia market. Not for the age of steam, for the age when they were the top of the game. That day was not yesterday either. You can only trade on past glories for so long until the paying public just walk away.
@7360451
@7360451 2 жыл бұрын
Still can,t live with the rear ponytruck.Sooner buy a proper A4.Rip off price for poor design.Put it in the Railroad range at lower price and i may consider it agaim
@fridolinbatota
@fridolinbatota 9 ай бұрын
It’s an a a4 Sam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@fridolinbatota
@fridolinbatota 9 ай бұрын
Kkkkk
@ivovanzon164
@ivovanzon164 2 жыл бұрын
I assume they loosened the screws on the rear bogie for the catalog picture, the axle center is far more visible there
@OfficiallyOliverWalker
@OfficiallyOliverWalker Жыл бұрын
The hush hush price has increased AGAIN to £254.99
@davidhardy7356
@davidhardy7356 2 жыл бұрын
When is a W1 "Hush Hush" no longer a W1 "Hush Hush" ? Answer ...when it has been rebuilt into a streamline loco .
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 2 жыл бұрын
Dear sam After all these high end highly expensive models of late, would you consider reviewing a modern railroad model ?
@class28studios78
@class28studios78 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think that Hornby fixed the problem with the chassis (maybe that's why the price is higher)
@johnphillips3943
@johnphillips3943 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. Is the reversing rod connected properly? I can see a hole in it which looks like it should be pressed onto a tab? John.
@tonyslight826
@tonyslight826 2 жыл бұрын
HI Sam I got the price wrong, they charged me it was a £197. not the £179 that said before. regards.
@themerrigans2734
@themerrigans2734 2 жыл бұрын
When China isn't the manufacturer and back to the UK, only then will I buy a Hornby.
@lesbird2074
@lesbird2074 2 жыл бұрын
A good review and it's nice to see that it's such an improvement on the original. Like others, I thought the tender corridor window looks as if it's meant to be fitted on the inside.
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think I would have bought one of these at the original price the quality is just not there for me
@daylightman8459
@daylightman8459 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just a more expensive A4. Whoop-de-do.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 2 жыл бұрын
haha pretty much, lol! ;D
@thejdmguru621
@thejdmguru621 11 ай бұрын
Did Hornby produce a “Union Of South Africa” livery?
@Gustavo-t7q
@Gustavo-t7q Жыл бұрын
I really didn't know how the W1s are using A4 boilers
@Locomattive8572
@Locomattive8572 2 жыл бұрын
I think surely any loco that wheels don’t touch the rails should get a huge reduction in mechanism? It looks terrible.
@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h
@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h 2 жыл бұрын
could you put both locos together and show us the length of the mallard bodyshell and the new rebuilt hush hush bodyshell
@SkyeSoarer04
@SkyeSoarer04 2 жыл бұрын
the hush hushes tender still survives as it is being carried by union of South Africa so the hush hush still kinda survives
@svenschulz3867
@svenschulz3867 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they have fitted the tender window from the wrong side. Must be glued from inside?
@Figulus
@Figulus 2 жыл бұрын
That funny voice you do is PERFECT!!
@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h
@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h 2 жыл бұрын
also what happen when you pick the front up does the front bogie leave the track again
@barronTV1
@barronTV1 2 жыл бұрын
wonder if it possible to swap the bodies around, so you could have the original body on a working chassis
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