HORRENDOUS NEW BUILD ELECTRICAL WORK? What is going on in New Build???

[@mikeselectricstuff]

9:00 I don't understand why standards even allow breaker terminals that can close with cables or busbar on the wrong side of the clamp - it's not rocket science to add a leaf to the clamp to prevent this

[@electrician247]

Very common problem and you are right easily solved for minimal expense.

[@cheeseburgerbeefcake]

"Cost is more than zero, and the product should be installed by a competent person" would be the counter argument, your point is valid though!

[@seandempsey7351]

Wow that is one hell off a neat install , and yet another job well executed. Well done mate . Fantastic video mark as always 👍👍👍👍❤️

[@rouman7]

Nice work mark , but this is becoming a familiar thing on new builds . Shoddy work I’ve going loose terminals , lamp holders with one screw , poor terminations . Etc etc. it’s all about speed and money , plus contractors.pass work around to who knows who ? I went to a house last week ( 1970s ) wiring yes it was a lot better than some today ( the work ).. glad I retire in august ..

[@stephencunningham405]

Standards are shocking iv being doing some condition reports on property's under two year old and getting things like wrong size cable for rings and cookers and showers in property with reference method 101 to 103. You can only expect lack of knowledge tbh quality should be number one priority not be negotiated due to price if they don't want a good job then don't do it at all the industry would soon pick its game up and pay whats needed cheers for the content and keep the interest going

[@chrisardern4594]

Its all about the money price work on sites basically killed off the high standards that used to be used. Not just on the electrical side either all trades are dropping standards to earn more money.

[@electrician247]

Seems to be the case sadly

[@ForTheBirbs]

Dodgy brothers electrical..... New build nasties. Thanks for another interesting video.

[@brianhewitt8618]

Bring on the real Electrical’s union, that’s what I say, excellent as always Mark.

[@electrician247]

Maybe one day mate

[@raywelshman]

Hi Mark, I noticed you were using blanks pushed in from the outside on the DB, I have used FuseBox Blank Module Single Pole Din Rail Mountable which allows you to leave the busbar at maximum length unused sections of the busbar are covered by the blanks leaving room for future expansion. Regards from Ray in North Wales.

[@electrician247]

We use them mate and they will end up in this board.

[@johnwalker890]

Good job Mark and crew, I use a cordless Milwaukee screwdriver or a Mikita cordless screwdriver for repetitive chores of screwdriving, the Milwaukee is really good and has taken 120 volts by accident of course and still works, it is 2.4 volts and last long time. The Mikita is 7.5 volts and comes with two batteries and has a build in light and is a little pricey, but has more features, it is 180 in price and the Milwaukee is a little over 100, but is reliable. one battery, one charger, Good job again.

[@MrImATarget]

Interesting video Mark, Thank You. I know that the original sparks has to earn a living etc but some of those faults i.e. the loose busbar connections are a danger to life. I would have been interested in the isolation procedure of the battery banks etc. Maybe on a future video.

[@rodmunroe3081]

Site Survey is a must.

[@powernab8457]

Mark The Sparky Allison: Flipping love your work, wow. How you prepared the board, very very nice. I put a Dual split load dual row consumer unit in my house but I used 10mA RCBOs and all have the IDs on too 😉

[@electrician247]

I like the idea of 10mA makes sense with better sub division of ccts. Good shout that.

[@geraldelwood9660]

I'm guessing 10mA RCBO trips around the 7mA mark, so don't you get nuisance tripping when 2 or 3 computers on one circuit?

[@electrician247]

@@geraldelwood9660 in a domestic setting with good division of circuits these can be really useful. But 100% for say office or kitchen ccts with white goods leaking up to 3.5mA not suitable. All in the design I suppose.

[@micdev42]

Hi. Really interesting video. I'm not a professional. You mentioned the SY cable a few times in the video. Would you explain what the issue is? Thanks

[@dansparkyintraining]

I can’t remember where the article was but it said most of the people never second fix their work they might just do first fix for £190 per house and if they can smash them out they get a bonus then on to another site They need to do proper snagging and quality control If you bought a car or van with faults like that you would be able to send it back if they couldn’t fix it If the responsibility was on the house builder and not the electrician and cps they would be more interested in selling houses fit for purpose KRT electrical services has just bought a new build and found some lovely wiring Sorry it’s so long 😃

[@electrician247]

Clark or works maybe? That would be something mate.

[@jamesbond0004]

Nice work ..

[@persona250]

rough job with cheap niglon gear :( I would have stuck the project ev on an mcb it has a double pole rcd inside .Any need for additional protection on the pv system ???

[@electrician247]

MI states it requires external type A rcd to comply with BS7671. PV inverter MI states it requires rcd protection. The rest as they say is history.

[@persona250]

@@electrician247 that can’t be right . The charger has a double pole type a rcbo built in why would it require another ?

[@electrician247]

@@persona250 you tell me.... perhaps it does not have an accessible test button for the user and meet 61009 or 61008 etc

[@nicholastomlinson1952]

You're 100% correct, all aspects of new builds are lacking compared to those built pre 2000, the people running the companies set ridiculous project goals and it's the trades people who end up taking the blame as the general public see the trader as the one who cut corners to "turn a profit" that those on site will never see

[@sunshine3187]

It's difficult to see the busbar cage clamps on the hager boards. Looks alot easer to see on the fusebox brand.

[@electrician247]

Loads of room to see on the dual row boards that is for sure

[@sunshine3187]

@@electrician247 my only real gripe with hager dual stack boards is not being able to see if the tail that feeds the top rail is connected properly into the main switch with the busbar. There's no real room to get the old inspection mirror in to check. I shoulf really try a fusebox CU soon. Nice content by the way bud.

[@effervescence5664]

I just put one of these boards in my fathers house. As he's still an engineer and likes to tinker with faulty items at home he kept blowing the RCD on the split load board he installed in 2001 much to his wife's annoyance. First time I've used the double stack, really nice board but wish you could swap the main switch to the bottom but the fly leads to the extension aren't long enough. Only complaint but it would of allowed for much easier dressing of cable as all the high loads are on the bottom due to the length of wire he had at the time. I need a new ident kit though as the one I was getting on Amazon isn't available anymore, any recommendations Mark?

[@electrician247]

I had this old ident set donated by the awesome John Bagley. Its mint. Options seem limited atm tbh mate.

[@jamesbond0004]

Hi Effer Vescence(only got it now!!) if you really want to do that, purchase a din rail connecter same current rating and dimensions for a 16 mm cable run the main power to that connector and run a jumper to the main breaker at the bottom as you wish. takes up a bit of space, but will meet all standards.

[@emilgemc8913]

The old consummer unit looks good Mark But the installation of that looks very poor

[@etch9]

Recently used one of these boards and found when I torqued up the busbar the RCBOs would twist and then end up not sitting straight just wondering if you had the same thing just something that annoyed me after trying to make the board look as neat as possible maybe just be fussy

[@electrician247]

This annoys me on lots of boards. I've found best way to avoid it is start on the right and work left. Making sure the first rcbo is dead straight. Hold the next one on it during tightening. Not ideal but works.

[@andrewstevenson6026]

Why doesnt CP electronics install a second busbar for the neutrals as SBS boards do? it would make those fly leads redundant overnight.

[@electrician247]

I am sure that will come.

[@travoltasbiplane1551]

Did you earth the braid on that SY? Shitty cable 👍

[@electrician247]

The original glanding was atrocious. We sorted it. Kind of irrelevant as not used by the owner.

[@edc1569]

Seems pretty decent for a new build. Since the government did nothing of any significance to fix the building industry after Grenfell, it's entirely wishful thinking that you think they give a monkeys about some domestic wiring issues. I used to work for London Underground, everything changed after the Kings Cross fire, and those changes and standards remain as robust today. Go figure.

[@electrician247]

Sadly the government seem to have ignored the issue of white goods yet again. That was a shame.

[@farmersteve129]

Makes me angry that the government brought in Part P & CPS, but the likes of NIC don't effectively police their members, so the cowboys get away with cutting corners time and again.

[@markrainford1219]

Why you have a downer SY cable?

[@electrician247]

More the way it was glanded than the cable itself I suppose.

[@m.bmaintenance7834]

called out to a new build (by the customers insurance) to a light fault in may 22, built by a large hose builder cert date feb 22, found the light to be tripping due to line cable on switch been trapped by the back box lug, took the lid of the consumer unit, found all cables running through the back, no grommit strip (bare edge,) tails running through one side earth the other ac rcds and excessive holes with no seal at the back of the board (stud wall) and excessive holes above the lights, the customer also informed us, we were the 2nd spark to attend due to other faults, when will someone goverment/ cps schemes get a grip on all the industry not just new builds

[@electrician247]

That's awful mate but as we sadly know not uncommon. I am going to share this video and the comments with the CPSs next week and see what they think.

[@ELECTRICLIFE4U]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@AndyK.1]

New houses don’t have intermediates? WTF 😂. Is this a lack of suitable parts being ordered do you think? Or knowledge.

[@electrician247]

Knowledge in the materials ordering and sparks getting accessories on to get paid most likely I think

[@acelectricalsecurity]

There's only one person allowed to make money in the building trade and that's the builder. That aside, I blame the governing bodies, they should be clamping down on this crap. I also blame the electrician's, because they are as thick as shit, they spend a fortune on tools, test equipment, books courses etc, then sell themselves cheaply, I am not keen on plumbers, but I will say one thing about them, they know how to charge and they are all the same.

[@electrician247]

Yeah some undervalue themselves. But on new build the plumbing ain't great either tbh.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@electrician247 that's true, I have worked on many new build sites including persimmon, redrow, wimpey and many more and the electrician was one of the lowest paid and that's because these electrical firms are buying the work. My mate who is a plumber was earning a grand a week more than 20 years ago and I was earning less than half that working for a twat.😂

[@billdoodson4232]

In 20 years ALL the complex work will be electrical. Plumbers will be people who just push bits of plastic together.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@billdoodson4232 isn't that the case now, plus the ones who make the best money on site only have a bucket of tools

[@khalidakhtar8341]

Issue is not enough time to do things correctly . Inexperienced blokes teaching new apprentices incorrect practices. And a barely meeting the regs approach instead of taking pride in the job all new builds are a make it look nice from the outside sham.