HORRIBLE BRAND NEW KONE Ecodisc Traction Elevators at the AC Hotel, Asheville, NC

Taken September 2017.
These are Some HORRIBLE Elevators, and the sad thing is, we lost a 1966 Otis Black Button for these pieces of crap!!!!!! Back in 2010, there was a parking garage here which NW Indiana Elevators filmed at that had a 1966 Otis Black Button that would have been TRULY AMAZING, but SADLY, in 2015, the garage got demolished, and now stands this hotel that opened in August of 2017, and it's elevators are ALREADY running like crap!!!! This place was only 4-5 weeks old when this was taken BUT the LEFT Elevator is already breaking down, glitching, and acting up!!!! SO PATHETIC! Typical KONE Quality!!! Also, not only these are ALREADY Breaking Down and have LOTS of complaints on TripAdvisor already, but what's really sad is the KONE Technician I talked to here ADMITTED to me he has seen Many Ecodisc systems glitch and break down, AND it took him FOREVER to come here and fix these as he had gotten 10-15 phone calls from other building owners with Ecodiscs that he had to fix!!!!! And what's also horrible is there is NO Separate Parking Elevator, NO Service Elevator, just these 2 UNRELIABLE, CRAPPY KONE Ecodiscs that are only gonna last 5 YEARS till they will need to modernize/replace these, and in addition they need to add a service elevator here. 2 UNRELIABLE ELEVATORS and 10 FLOORS Including Guestrooms, lobby, parking and a PUBLIC Restaurant Means STOPS GALORE!!!! This place SERIOUSLY needs more elevators!!! And plus, the 2 Elevators they have are KONE!!! And the KONE tech told me the left one was GLITCHING like the Melia in Orlando, the buttons on the COP for the Parking Floors ONLY, AND not the guestroom floors worked, AND it is already having Mechanical problems!!!! While the KONE tech did fix it and I got to show it to you in this video, it STILL needs help!!!! DESPITE being 4-5 weeks Old, one of the Indicators is ALREADY BURNT OUT AND THE IN CAR LANTERN DOESN'T INDICATE IF IT'S GOING UP OR DOWN!!! It just displays a DIAMOND shape!!!!! SO MESSED UP AND PATHETIC!!!! To the AC Hotel, ADD MORE ELEVATORS, AND FIX THIS! AND KONE, you NEED TO SERIOUSLY FIX YOUR QUALITY AND RELIABILITY ISSUES!!!!! I would take an Otis Gen2 or a Schindler 3300 or 5500 over one of these pieces of JUNK, they will probably only last 5 YEARS at MOST!!!!! With that all being said, here's more reasoning to Why I dislike American Ecodiscs!!!!
P.S. This is also the hotel I stayed at in Asheville, and our stay wasn't the greatest, but not the worst as you will see when I upload my tour. Also as of November 2017, these have broken down YET AGAIN according to tripadvisor!!! It was SO DUMB or them to Install only 2 ELEVATORS and no SERVICE ELEVATORS, let alone 2 KONEs....
Installed: 2017

[@FloridianElevators]

First, I want to admit that I know I didn't act the most mature in this video and for that I do apologize. This is an older video that is now 3 years old, I do not make videos like this anymore. But For those of you leaving nasty comments attacking me for what I am saying about these elevators, FIRST OF ALL, I have every right to hate and dislike KONE and I even made a video explaining why I hate them, they are incredibly cheap and crappy IMHO. Also, if you're going to say this elevator is great and that I'm just a hater, you don't know what you're talking about. I STAYED in this hotel and I waited over 10 MINUTES for an elevator a couple of times, the left elevator kept breaking down, the KONE tech told me it kept glitching and malfunctioning and he ADMITTED KONE controllers were glitchy and crapoy when he works for KONE, and even the staff were complaining and said the elevators were horrible, and not even a year after this was taken and when these were installed, THESE WERE MODERNIZED!!! So if you're going to attack me for what I have to say about these and say these elevators are great, you don't know what you're talking about, you've never ridden these before, and just because something runs smoothly on video doesn't mean it doesn't have issues that make it an utter piece of crap. So be respectful, or back off!!!

[@isaac24]

Understood

[@FloridianElevators]

@@isaac24 Thank you

[@blue.light.fazbear]

People should just learn to respect opinions like everyone should. Anyways, they are rubbish elevators

[@blue.light.fazbear]

They were modded already?! What a surprise!! Who modded them?

[@FloridianElevators]

@@blue.light.fazbear KONE. Now they have Innovation Universal

[@TechNerdNolan]

This seems like a Friday night job. The Kone engineers probably wanted to go home and rushed this project. I know in other countries Kone would never do that.

[@Tampa0123456789]

Lol don't know why you tube sent me here but it's amusing to see a channel on elevators. Nothing wrong with that tho.

[@michianaelevators2582]

This is so sad. A similar mod happened to a beautiful vintage building in South Bend, “The LaSalle Building” which was converted to apartments in 2014. It seems like they used to have vintage Haughtons, but I couldn’t tell. Anyway they were replaced with Kone elevators too... unfortunately...

[@danielg.3328]

Here in Europe the Kone Ecodiscs are the most reliable elevators and Otis elevators are always broken. In America it's kinda switched 😂.

[@FloridianElevators]

So true LOL

[@qeelevators2960]

Yeah my favorite American brands are sh*t in other places.

[@alpzepta]

OTIS 2000/2000 VF are pretty good.

[@danielg.3328]

@@alpzepta Yeah, but it got worse with Gen2s unfortunately.

[@STUAA2024]

I wonder why don’t see Mitsubishi in other parts of the country.

[@Anatole2201]

I recently got a similar reply from a KONE tech when they were doing a mod at a mall they said “I’m glad we convinced them not to get an ecodisc mod” and that they always feel bad about how often they break. If they just made the controllers better the ecodisc would be great like the European ones. If the techs don’t want to install then then there’s a problem.

[@DieselDucy]

DoverElevatorFan1 it is the controller not the motor. Ecodisc is a great motor

[@Anatole2201]

That is what I meant. Sorry if you misunderstood. The motor is good quality for a modern elevator. The controller could use some work though. KONE is a fine company and the tech was pretty nice.

[@FloridianElevators]

Read my pinned comment

[@FloridianElevators]

@@freerk242 It may be the same, but not programmed properly like in Europe. Sounds to me you've never ridden a American Ecodisc, let alone this set, so you can't be talking. Not trying to be a jerk, but it's true.

[@SirHenryy]

The kone elevators coming from finland are awesome, the ones that are made elsewhere not so much. Funny thing is that otis elevators in europe are shit. Also kone elevators easily look the best.

[@MandelbrotSetStudios69420lol]

wow. this is why i always take the kone elevators lol.

[@Hissen3000]

They would have chosen Epic Schindler or Otis here instead of boring KONE

[@Gamer_Dilan]

I agree. 500A's would have been better

[@grandelevatoroblox2]

@@Gamer_Dilanhow about 5500s

[@Gamer_Dilan]

I agree. It could 5500's, 500A's, and 6400

[@FlippyLuigi]

0:39 10/10 sound effects

[@FloridianElevators]

LOL!!!

[@michaelwalterselevatorsrob5009]

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[@Photoelectric_Elevators]

Lol

[@Clement-xy9iv]

Well, I have already seen crappy Tyssen kurp elevators that are only around 1 year old, the "down" call button got replaced by "2" call button (LOL).

[@juoig7799]

Here in the UK, KONE do pretty nice lifts honestly. The Ecodiscs in my local library are really nice, they run well, and they only broke down a few times since they were installed when the library was built in 2017. The library was built to replace the old library (which was torn down and rebuilt as a hotel (that also has really nice Ecodiscs)). KONE also do more heavy duty lifts for car parks. I guess as long as buildings don't install generic crap or rush better lifts, they should last at least ten years.

[@KONEISTHEWORST]

idiot because schindler and otis is much better than kone even in eu they have cheap elevator

[@mr.c15_gamla_kanal]

​@@KONEISTHEWORSTstop spamming 10 year old

[@ELEVrjATOR]

There is a reason that there are no (new) KONE elevators on my channel. I have an old one that runs nice tho.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

0:42 THAT VOMITING VOICE WAS LIKE BENOS 😂😂😂😂 My Mitsubishi lift from 2000, still works so good. NO shaft VOICE or squeaks.

[@gabrieldoughty6808]

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[@gabrieldoughty6808]

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[@gabrieldoughty6808]

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[@elevatorkid4814]

0:39 he was cringing

[@gallagher123123]

That's the third new Marriott hotel that I am aware of that has KONE elevators. The Residents Inn in Watertown Massachusetts, opened in late 2016, and a Residents Inn in Braintree, Massachusetts, which opened around the same time as this AC Hotel, both have KONEs. It's interesting, the Braintree Residents inn I think has the same cab design. I find it interesting that these three new Marriott properties have very similar elevators.

[@FloridianElevators]

Are they as crappy as these? Lol

[@blinder2786]

Its Not kone’s fault that the hotel company decided to choose the stainless steel design

[@FloridianElevators]

It's way more than that. Read my pinned comment and you obviously didn't watch the video either

[@matte5552]

The floor numbering is also really inconsistent. The lobby is *P1 on one of the elevators, and *G/RC on the other.

[@isaac24]

Yah, I don't get the floor numbering.

[@LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC]

WOAH SERIOUSLY! AND UK ECODISCS ARE NOT THIS BAD! THIS MIGHT BE A FAKE ECODISC!

[@aaronrennyvargheseOriginal]

​@The Elevator Fan Asian EcoDiscs are sooo much better. In one small shop they installed EcoDisc but did never broke down! It's five years old and still running.

[@mattmoreira210]

There's no thing like a "fake" elevator. I'm not even going into the impracticalities of such an assumption.

[@TechNerdNolan]

Matheus Moreira It’s called a joke ;)

[@lucaspenfold7033]

Horrid Moddernized eleva tor

[@Elevatorboy886]

Kone's are pretty bad in the US

[@Anatole2201]

I find it funny that these were already modernized. That shows the quality that was put in to install these doesn’t it?

[@FloridianElevators]

IKR!!!!!! It's so PATHETIC!!! There is a REASON I HATE KONE the MOST out of all elevators!

[@calvinkulit]

@@FloridianElevators Well, only the American ones.

[@elevatorkid4814]

@@FloridianElevators what does IKR stand for

[@EverydayEverything360]

@@elevatorkid4814 I know right.

[@elevatorkid4814]

@@EverydayEverything360 ok

[@filmer765]

Next time my parents, brother, and I come down to North Carolina to visit family, I’ve got to check this out if my parents would allow me. If the 66’ Otis elevators lasted about 45 years, then I guarantee these Kone elevators WILL last 45 seconds (is that too short?).

[@otiselevator2]

Why did they have to pick the boring cab for this hotel? Are they going to start maintain these elevator?

[@FloridianElevators]

otiselevator9439 I have No clue why!!!!

[@sahkigaming5616]

I don't know.

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

otiselevator9439 Because they want to save money and low balance!!

[@tkefan29]

I stayed at my first AC a couple weeks ago, it had Gen2s which were actually pretty good. They were hospital size and had much cooler cabs than these. I am very disappointed in KONE, because this is just embarrassing for them.

[@elevcan2312]

I know i have said this many times but i do totally respect your opinon on kone. To be honest i dont Like these elevators either. Back in October 2017 i was on a Mediterranean cruise and they have kone elevators that are the complete opposite of these.

[@EverydayEverything360]

Once again, sorry about being really rude to you. I agree, those lifts/elevators are pretty shitty. Please give America the good quality products that you give us in the UK KONE!

[@metro_ken]

That’s messed up AF. I live in England and in this shopping centre near my dad’s house has an EcoDisc what is about 13 years old and hasn’t broken down once as long as I’ve known, if they had 4 lifts (or maybe even 6) and made them Polaris they would work much better but that looks like hell on earth in a lift...

[@EverydayEverything360]

Which shopping centre is it?

[@explodingbrick9544]

8:07 Otis floor passing chime

[@FloridianElevators]

Exploding Brick It kind of sounds like one

[@jbush9502]

At the Homewood suites in Orlando fl lake Buena Vista they have 3 crappy ecodisc and one of them is a death trap they're worth filming because there so crappy idk if there still death traps probably so but you should check them out

[@ElevationStationProductions]

I filmed the elevators at the AC in Portland. They also had kone, but they weren’t too bad.

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

Elevation Station Productions Same!!

[@qeelevators2960]

I really hope you see this, kone is refusing to refill whiskey blue and they were there to fix it for the second time in 2 weeks. They were there 3 days ago and when I was back there to see it actually working it was low on oil... The engineer dosen't even know why it shakes at the top floor. Going to to text him about this tomorrow.

[@qeelevators2960]

And why? 4 inch gap between top of oil tank where you refill it and the ceiling. Well that's why it was submersible

[@SuwareiElevatorCorporation]

Why are there 2 keycard scanners?

[@JordanLoweElevaToursCanada]

It’s like their quality is getting even worse than before. I sent you the link of that elevator that they installed in Halifax shopping Centre didn’t I?

[@blue.light.fazbear]

These are terrible and they don’t work how an elevator should. The indicator and lantern should work when it’s brand new and it shouldn’t mess up when it’s brand new. They shouldn’t be this glitchy either. Really rubbish. Only good thing about them is the fixtures which I quite like despite the cheapness of KSS

[@eyespy8088]

KONE is the worst company on earth! Aesthetics aside, the quality of their products and customer service are appalling and pitiful! I live in a building only 3 years old in Canada and we still are experiencing lots of issues and break downs since the beginning where people have been trapped inside. KONE can't seem to come in a timely manner, even in an emergency, and parts seem to take forever to come in and their service technicians are slow lazy idiots who don't seem properly trained. Our elevator would be down for a week whenever something goes wrong with them. I'm hoping the elevators in all of the KONE office buildings are just as bad as the ones they install in other buildings. They should go through the same crap we all have to go through with these shitty KONE elevators. The CEOs and upper management deserve to be trapped in a hot stuffy KONE elevator for hours every week!

[@LondonAndSouthEastTransport]

Kone is shit in USA, Kone is amazing in Europe. Generic lifts in the UK is Kone in USA.

[@juwayriyasworld2011]

@TheBoshMeister99 No More Bad Words 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

@@juwayriyasworld2011 you’re mean

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

What is your favorite elevator brand

[@ShashankArv]

@@PhuongTran-if9vh Kone

[@JustinEddins07]

These are now 5 years old. I wonder how they're doing now.

[@nurmahmoodmuti7380]

What’s on floor K?

[@IllinoisElevators]

Almost 4 years ago these were installed, I wonder how they're doing now.

[@FloridianElevators]

Jesus Christ.... Time flies!

[@IllinoisElevators]

@@FloridianElevators It sure does!! I would've have less than 100 subscribers back then in 2017 when I started filming elevators.

[@JustinEddins07]

@@FloridianElevators Now it's been 5 years!

[@Rb_2103]

The issue is that Kone American installers for some reason can not install lifts properly. Here in the UK and Europe Kone is one of the most reliable and the most efficient type of lift.

[@Nicsou77]

I rode like 5 kones a few days ago only one of them where interesting as it was a rare hydro KONE

[@DieselDucy]

Nick Derik the Iowa 80 has a hydro Kone with these fixtures. They are very rare

[@HSETM]

@@DieselDucy correct. I was just there about a week ago.

[@EWPA14]

THANKFULLY the new AC Hotel here in PGH (opening tomorrow, filmed today) has Gen2s, & isn't this tall, so obviously quality's not this bad, same for efficiency. They're also scenic, & don't have garage style cabs!

[@FloridianElevators]

Nice! Glad to hear that not all of them are having this KRAPNE junk. Most AC properties I'm aware of have this KRAPNE junk

[@EWPA14]

From videos, there’s at least 1 more w/ Gen2, & 1 w/ thyssenkrupp.

[@TechNerdNolan]

Even Gen2s are better than this Kone crap

[@EWPA14]

In most instances it seems like it.

[@TechNerdNolan]

Elevating Western PA Unless it’s Europe, it’s the other way around!

[@AdazElevatorz]

How can you tell if a Kone is an EcoSpace or MonoSpace?

[@FloridianElevators]

AdazElevatorz Speed and amount of floors served. These are probably EcoSpace cause of how slow they are

[@EWPA14]

Floridian Elevators EcoSpace doesn’t go up this high.

[@FloridianElevators]

@@EWPA14 Based on what I read online, I believe they can go above 10 stories actually. But for that many floors, MonoSpace is faster and more efficient

[@EWPA14]

I think that was a few years ago. From what I can tell now EcoSpace is trying to compete w/ 3100 & only goes up to 4 floors.

[@notactive19717]

I do agree with you, that elevator has some problems, but not all Kone elevators have these kinds of problems, you know. I rode a Kone elevator in a nearly finished construction site in Tempe, and it was working properly

[@FloridianElevators]

True, but read my pinned comment. These really are horrible

[@SpeedVator]

I consider these elevators acceptable. To be honest, the rants about KONE Ecodiscs is getting really annoying.

[@FloridianElevators]

My apologies. But I personally didn't like these....

[@FloridianElevators]

And all I can say is I personally don't like Ecodiscs are they are boring and cheaply made, but I respect your opinion

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

Kone lifts are not actually cheaply made, but I heard that they never work properly in the US. I've rode the Europian Ecodiscs and they run really nicely, but I always heard that Kone ecodiscs in the US never work nicely.

[@FloridianElevators]

182duhkj1hwif8y98y2h3ed The US ones are HORRIBLE

[@FloridianElevators]

And obviously you've never ridden these before, I waited 20 MINUTES one day for these!!

[@rannontannachion2667]

You are right. They could have done the hotel with Otis. I personally think they should have used the Otis Gen2

[@michaelwalterselevatorsrob5009]

I know everyone including me thinks these elevators could’ve been better, but what about the hotel itself? I mean the corridor on 5 looks pretty decent

[@inactivechannel7029]

You know that Kone that AB Trains & Elevators (Tyson) filmed that had the indicator glitch? Almost 2 years later, IT STILL DOES IT!

[@FloridianElevators]

So pathetic..

[@inactivechannel7029]

Floridian Elevators I know right?! I’m sooooooo mad. And I will say, every bad EcoDisc in the USA and Canada should be modded with a Schindler... in my opinion. What’s your favourite brand? Mine is Schindler. I know yours is Kone *(just being sarcastic lmao).*

[@FloridianElevators]

@@inactivechannel7029 Mine is Otis and will forever be probably. Their old stuff is better by far, but their new stuff is decent.

[@inactivechannel7029]

Floridian Elevators And Schindler is really good as well. My favourite fixture from them is HT Premium.

[@inactivechannel7029]

Floridian Elevators And KSS should stand for “Kone *S**T S**T.* Lmfao

[@blue.light.fazbear]

Why does it say P1 on the lobby?

[@EWPA14]

Typical KRAPNE glitch.

[@mattmoreira210]

Have you considered the possibility that the indicator might not be "already broken", but not have been correctly installed yet? Elevators can take months to years before they're fully installed, adjusted and configured to run at their finest.

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

The base-model 1 meter per second EcoDiscs at my school run much better than these considering they are like over 10 years older than these. At least KONE in the UK are great :D

[@MediaUniverse-om6zk]

But for KONE America, it's bad.

[@ShashankArv]

Kone Europe is best.

[@rahan573]

0:37 I'm actually thinking the opposite of vomit and also hope that there's a metal cabinet which has the same lock as the kone fastlock keyholes so then I can open the cabinet up to hopefully reveal an LCE logic for me to play with. But it's still sad to see engineers installing these badly for NA, The ones in Europe and Asia are real nice.

[@rahan573]

And the multiplex seemed to be configured differently to the ones in Europe, probably explains why the electronics aren't reliable.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

Rahan2003 XD

[@blue.light.fazbear]

A new elevator broke down. Not good not to mention the burned out floor indicator on a NEW elevator!!

[@FloridianElevators]

IKR!!?!?!? It's so PATHETIC!

[@OPG2711]

And is there a video of the 1966 OTIS elevator?

[@FloridianElevators]

OPM1961 Yes, NW Indiana Elevators filmed it a long time ago.

[@OPG2711]

Do you have the link?

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

OPM1961 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6imZ4emm8SBp68

[@johnkinder5677]

I worked for Kone and thieir products are subpar. The 1960's Otis would of probably out lasted this new crap.

[@LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC]

Hopefully Otis will take care of them and probably in a few years hope they will be modded with series 7

[@FloridianElevators]

Sadly, Otis doesn't maintain these, so I doubt that will happen, at least for a while. And Series 7 doesn't exist btw. The New Otis fixtures are called Newer Series 2 if surface mount, and Newer Series 4 if flush mount. And if it's a mod, Series M2

[@elevatorkid4814]

@@FloridianElevators series 7 exists and it's a newer otis modernization just like as series M2

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

Why is it that only KONE elevators in America seem to be glitchy? European and UK EcoDiscs run awesome!

[@FloridianElevators]

No clue....probably cause European Ecodiscs use parts from Europe....ones in America use parts from China and Mexico. As for the controllers, idk what the deal is..

[@blue.light.fazbear]

It’s ridiculous how Kone is great in the UK and Europe and not so good in the US but Otis is awesome in the US and not as good in the UK and Europe

[@stefankalajdziski8170]

Floridian elevators I souout

[@ShashankArv]

@@FloridianElevators Yes, Kone is best in Europe Eg. Finland, Sweden, United Kingdom, Italy, France, Norway, Spain etc. but not in the Americas Eg. United States, Canada, Mexico etc.

[@seanhamilton4169]

0:38 Don't puke on them.

[@FloridianElevators]

LOL!!!

[@LBSiUK]

Wow. What a load of crap. Why do American Kone lifts suck so much?! In Britain, Kone is the second best company in the UK after Mitsubishi. I understand about your opinion, Kone suck in the US...

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

What is your favorite lift (elevator) brand in the uk?

[@GalileoFigar0]

The diamond Indicator isn’t supposed to show the current floor, it shows the direction of travel.

[@TheElevatorandAirplaneFinder]

Kone at times is very nice but on the other hand, my sister HATES the Kone Ecodiscs in the building she works in in Indianapolis. She has told me that they break down way too frequently and they have issues with getting on them.

[@FloridianElevators]

Why am I not surprised lol.... How many floors is the building she works in?

[@TheElevatorandAirplaneFinder]

@@FloridianElevators I believe around 9

[@ShashankArv]

My Kone EcoDisc in my building does not break down at all, very reliable, it's a 1st Generation EcoDisc with Sigma fixtures which is imported from Europe.

[@benjamsak-alaskanelevatora7410]

Well the one that already broken down in the hotel after it being open for 5 weeks sounds like the Hilton hotel in Anchorage where Schindler modded the touch elevators and the first day one of them turned on it broke just like that

[@elevatingnc32]

Cool! I like Kone (my third favorite elevator company). But it's sad that they replaced the 1966 otis elevators on the site of the old bb&t garage

[@Chesstrickstraps]

Hey everyone Floridian elevators said: Taken September 2017. These are Some HORRIBLE Elevators, and the sad thing is, we lost a 1966 Otis Black Button for these pieces of crap!!!!!! Back in 2010, there was a parking garage here which NW Indiana Elevators filmed at that had a 1966 Otis Black Button that would have been TRULY AMAZING, but SADLY, in 2015, the garage got demolished, and now stands this hotel that opened in August of 2017, and it's elevators are ALREADY running like crap!!!! This place was only 4-5 weeks old when this was taken BUT the LEFT Elevator is already breaking down, glitching, and acting up!!!! SO PATHETIC! Typical KONE Quality!!! Also, not only these are ALREADY Breaking Down and have LOTS of complaints on TripAdvisor already, but what's really sad is the KONE Technician I talked to here ADMITTED to me he has seen Many Ecodisc systems glitch and break down, AND it took him FOREVER to come here and fix these as he had gotten 10-15 phone calls from other building owners with Ecodiscs that he had to fix!!!!! And what's also horrible is there is NO Separate Parking Elevator, NO Service Elevator, just these 2 UNRELIABLE, CRAPPY KONE Ecodiscs that are only gonna last 5 YEARS till they will need to modernize/replace these, and in addition they need to add a service elevator here. 2 UNRELIABLE ELEVATORS and 10 FLOORS Including Guestrooms, lobby, parking and a PUBLIC Restaurant Means STOPS GALORE!!!! This place SERIOUSLY needs more elevators!!! And plus, the 2 Elevators they have are KONE!!! And the KONE tech told me the left one was GLITCHING like the Melia in Orlando, the buttons on the COP for the Parking Floors ONLY, AND not the guestroom floors worked, AND it is already having Mechanical problems!!!! While the KONE tech did fix it and I got to show it to you in this video, it STILL needs help!!!! DESPITE being 4-5 weeks Old, one of the Indicators is ALREADY BURNT OUT AND THE IN CAR LANTERN DOESN'T INDICATE IF IT'S GOING UP OR DOWN!!! It just displays a DIAMOND shape!!!!! SO MESSED UP AND PATHETIC!!!! To the AC Hotel, ADD MORE ELEVATORS, AND FIX THIS! AND KONE, you NEED TO SERIOUSLY FIX YOUR QUALITY AND RELIABILITY ISSUES!!!!! I would take an Otis Gen2 or a Schindler 3300 or 5500 over one of these pieces of JUNK, they will probably only last 5 YEARS at MOST!!!!! With that all being said, here's more reasoning to Why I dislike American Ecodiscs!!!! P.S. This is also the hotel I stayed at in Asheville, and our stay wasn't the greatest, but not the worst as you will see when I upload my tour. Also as of November 2017, these have broken down YET AGAIN according to tripadvisor!!! It was SO DUMB or them to Install only 2 ELEVATORS and no SERVICE ELEVATORS, let alone 2 KONEs.... Installed: 2017 January 1st MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!*

[@ginatchen]

that AC HOTEL needs to have mitshubeshi only the following of 5 mitshubeshi elevators have gotten stuck

[@TechNerdNolan]

Sadly Mitsubishi isn’t in this part of the US :(

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

Mitsubishi*

[@elevatorsbylexi]

Song playing is The Walker by Fitz and the Tantrums

[@kurianxavier]

In my apartment there are two old elevators they got modernized. 3 days after the mod the errors began

[@kurianxavier]

Not Kone its an Indian brand

[@kurianxavier]

Cabs and doors (semi-automatic) are still original

[@ee4u]

KONE suffers from durability and reliability these days.

[@nanasajaia8919]

Is K locked

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

I while love KONE, Still, YUCK!! ALREADY BAD??? HOW???

[@FloridianElevators]

Train & Busfan33 I have no clue..... LOL. There is a reason I on the other hand HATE KONE!

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

Floridian Elevators Yeah

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

Floridian Elevators I’m gonna throw up. LOL jk. Randy Please!!

[@mariokart8715]

These elevators have had a very hard and bad life; this hotel is almost 5 years old now.

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

I don't know what it is with KONE and America, but something's not right. Yup, that internal lantern has broken, maybe the floor indicator that doesn't work is just switched off? I bet that the maintenance on them will be poor because the building owner well decide not to maintain them properly. These could be nice if they were maintained better.

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

I like the buttons though. :)

[@FloridianElevators]

I don't blame maintenance. These were literally just Installed when this was taken!!!

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

Maybe the engineers who installed these were new to the trade and inexperienced in installing elevators

[@FionnsLifts]

That's funny, in they UK, Kone are seen as an amazing lift company, like put up there with Schindler miconic. It's a shame in the states they are built so poorly

[@Elementary-CP]

Great! Congratulations!

[@QEElevators]

Kone has their act together on high rise tho, I rode a brand new 1200FPM one and it didn’t creak at all

[@blueauraretriever]

I am pretty upset about this replacement! I'd expect a lot better from kone. The Ecodiscs at my dad's friends house which are as slow as snails run far better then this piece of crap. And notice how long it takes for decelerate ! This is nearly as horrible as a typical NYC 50 story Generic lift However, I do agree with dieselducy kinda as there is an example of when I have been extremely immature ranting about Otis products back in 2015-2016 by saying that the "Gen2 was crap" even though I never had any evidence to prove it *false* until last year...

[@over.4262]

HC EleFilms by Technicalboy3000 same me

[@FloridianElevators]

Read my pinned comment

[@stumbleguysiscool]

WHAT???? A 5 WEEKS OLD HOTEL AND ELEVATOR IS HAVING ISSUES??

[@Bm0407_]

I don't mind a Ecodisc and all but how can they fuck this up so bad?

[@XX7-df1zu]

You are saying how bad this Kone elevator is. Kone:...

[@cobrasvt347]

Damn it the Bad ass old odis elevators are all bei.g scrapped. 😢

[@JoshCraver9000]

Kone REALLY needs to work on the quality and reliability of their elevators!

[@ShashankArv]

European Kone Fixtures: KSS 420, KSS 470, KSS 520, Sigma, KSS 280, M-Series. Asian Kone Fixtures: KDS 50, KDS 300, K-Delta, KDS 330. American Kone Fixtures: KSS 300, Series 220, KSS 220, KSS 500.

[@anthonypasculli6980]

It already got modded?

[@FloridianElevators]

Yup!

[@ElevatorDude]

WAIT, WHAT?!

[@patricknedz]

I’ve seen some new hotels where the cabs are as boring as can be. I don’t even like Kone elevators. Otis does a better job even these days they still make good quality elevators.

[@keirenlammers3515]

I hate kone ecodisc so much that we need to talk so right in to it the lanturn is shaped like a Diamond it's so glichy bumpy and slow and it's running bad I've got stuck with sahki and it broke after only 5 weeks or 4 weeks it used to be a to be a old garage with a amazing 1960s otis and it's just so bad and why is one of the floor indicator broken and I would even rather ride a 1920s otis over this piece of crap and I hate stainless steel cabs And Do you agree? just reply in the comments

[@sahkiplaylists9001]

Yeah I agree

[@CaydenLudlow]

I completely agree

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

@Wen Kern Boys Elevator Channel beno LOVES it

[@PhuongTran-if9vh]

What is your favorite elevator brand

[@Jowevator3219]

I saw the words "Horrible" and "KONE" in the same sentence and immediately clicked this video

[@FloridianElevators]

Yeah, it's quite common

[@blueauraretriever]

Even the Ecodiscs in NYC are better then this crap! And the lifts in NYC r normally FAR WORSE THAN NORTH CAROLINA LOL

[@JordanLoweElevaToursCanada]

Jowevator 3219 I did the exact same thing LOL!

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

Long story short Kone makes the best elevators outside the US

[@seminolegonzalezairlines7757]

Floridian Elevators The cabins do stink like leaches.

[@bostonelevatorsaviation]

What these really need is a total replacement by OTIS and add 2 express elevators to the restaurant and add service elevators and parking elevators. All need to be OTIS or Schindler.

[@colinwillis3392]

I have stayed in this hotel. I was pretty disappointed in the quality. This technically is a Marriott property.

[@tophound701]

Should have went with Schindler 5500 or 6400

[@QuarioQuario54321]

6400 is only for mods

[@BCsVators]

QuarioQuario54321 If the Otis was still here.

[@seminolegonzalezairlines7757]

Top Hound Do you mean Schindler 6400NA

[@EWPA14]

Seminole Airways It’s the exact same thing, but Schindler dropped out the “NA” part of it.

[@EWPA14]

Seminole Airways ? It’s true though.

[@TheDragonFire123]

Normally, I do like these Kones, especially their fourth generation EcoDiscs, which are awesome. I don't know what is with the US Kone division, but they never can get installations quite right. It really is a game of hit and miss with them, and more often than not, they miss. Especially since this was a 60s Otis, I think this install was one of their low points. But at least it's not a s*** generic, which are designed to last ten years before being replaced with another lift lasting ten years as well. It could be worse. Also, it's the hotel's fault for putting bottom-of-the-range EcoDiscs in here. Put Schindler 3300s in this application and they'd end up no different. Kone can do good lifts, and there are loads of them across the world, hell, even in the US. It's not just Kone mods; mods in general suck. Especially if it uses blue Dewhurst US95 and nasty Alphasoft indicators (that's what many such mods in Australia use). Mods do have the potential to look nice, but not when you use fixtures that are seen basically everywhere.

[@theliftrider]

Ecodisc seem less reliable in the US for some reason. In Europe these lifts are really reliable and amazing

[@ShashankArv]

Yeah, European Kone is best quality!

[@camdenwells8031]

@Floridian Elevators i know you hate KONE but I like it depends on the mod, but I respect your opinion but as long you respect mine back!

[@LiftsinEurope]

No yuck The Kone is God brand and Have good Modernize

[@denvervlogs1236]

AGREEDED

[@keirenlammers5543]

No kone sucks

[@over.4262]

No 👎 kone replaced some beautiful elevator I am so mad

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

I always heard that Kone in the US sucks. The Europian versions of Kone Ecodiscs seem to run very well.

[@FloridianElevators]

182duhkj1hwif8y98y2h3ed That's pretty accurate

[@sahkigaming5616]

Why is there a lame cab broken indicator and a voice that's not clear?

[@FloridianElevators]

Sahki gaming No clue...

[@QEElevators]

Sadly Otis gen3’s are starting to have similar build quality to these. The panels feel very flimsy and cheap when knocked on

[@evansowen6123]

How the hell are the new elevator so crappy? They should made it more nice

[@EvergreenElevators]

Wow, just wow. Honestly, I like KONEs, but when it comes to bad maintenance, nope. When I find a very well maintained KONE elevator, I enjoy them, but otherwise, I’m disgusted. I know KONE is trying to make their elevators better, and it all really just depends on how the place and maintenance company maintains the elevator. See, at a mall near where I live, they used to have Meyer and Frank, with a Montgomery G&P. I never went there, but sometime in the 2000’s, Macy’s took over and brought with them a modernization for the elevator, which was a KONE mod, and it’s been a KSS 370 to this day. I can tell they replaced the motor, and they pretty much replaced most stuff, for what I can tell. I live by about 4 malls, and one of the other ones that are further from me have a Montgomery G&P at JCPenney, which is still original to this day. I’ve heard the motor before, and I believe the store will close before the elevator gets modernized. But anyway, back at Macy’s, the elevator has its problems. Re-level problems, overall leveling problems (how long it takes to level), and door problems. It used to run like crap back then. but they have been trying hard to fix it up. Honestly, it’s the best elevator in the mall now, as the others aren’t keeping up too well. What really sucks is the main elevator is a Dover Traditional (soon to be filmed by me), and a (I believe?) MontgomeyKONE mod with Innovation (I think it was overall some sort of Montgomery, maybe even a Dover) before it got modernized. But anyway, with all that being said, I do like KONE elevators depending on how they’re maintained. Of course, I respect the fact that you hate American KONEs, and I can see why.

[@isaac24]

I don't understand, why are the Kones in Europe so good, yet the ones here are so bad?

[@FloridianElevators]

The Elevator World IKR!!! It makes no sense!!!

[@EWPA14]

Same for Otis, except swapped. I wonder if its because they make slightly better build quality for their products in their own country/continent?

[@FloridianElevators]

@@EWPA14 Yeah, idk. But all parts for KONEs in America are from China, Turkey and Mexico mainly. Really cheap crappy parts....

[@isaac24]

Most likely

[@homeguestunton]

BETTER THAN SCHINDLER MT!

[@nikospodas6201]

these elevators just opened last year its like 3 months ago February 2018 these suck they need to be replaced

[@liftsinireland]

Ecodiscs are good in Europe. Are they different in America or something??

[@FloridianElevators]

Yes they are!! Here in America, they are some of the worst elevators ever!!!

[@liftsinireland]

Oh wow. Well that's completely different here in Europe.

[@LiftsinEurope]

Rc in France is A Ground Floor

[@mikeygarcia8748]

What does K mean?

[@EWPA14]

Kitchen.

[@PNWElevatorAviation]

Mikey Garcia KONE haha 😂😂 jk

[@colinmacdonald5169]

The only thing I'm cringing from is the noise you made

[@FloridianElevators]

I'm sorry that it bothered you. My bad

[@spwprivate]

Service elevators is Schindler 3300 and ThyssenKrupp Synergy