HORRIBLE EPISODE FOR THE FAMILY!! | Succession 1x7 "Austerlitz" First Reaction!

[@ReelTimeYT]

FULL WATCHALONGS/EARLY ACCESS REACTIONS UP TO SEASON 2 EPISODE 1: www.patreon.com/ReelTimeYT/posts?filters%5Btag%5D=Succession

[@Diegesis]

it's really interesting, trying to imagine what Logan's childhood was like with those scars on his back.

[@logan-pe4rm]

Ariana what are you doing hereeee

[@John_Locke_108]

Omg. This is awkward. I just got caught cheating by the other channel I watch Succession with. .

[@John_Locke_108]

Wonder if they were self inflicted.

[@geebo8502]

Hi Diegesis!

[@tink6225]

I don't have to imagine

[@karadoe1997]

Lmao “Horrible episode for the family” that could be a title for every episode im afraid

[@neonoires]

I agree with Rob about Logan, he is definitely the victim of having a dark past but he passed off that generational trauma to his kids. It's almost like the meaner he is to his kids the more they want to impress him. He knows exactly what each child needs for them to do exactly what he wants them to do.

[@giovannaandrade1939]

I LOVE YOU, ROB! And yes, I'm talking about the beggining of the video where you were discussing if what Shiv did was cheating or not... Like, it's funny how ppl act differently when a man acts like that and a when it's a woman doing it the judgment is way heavier... It's not about agreeing with Shiv, it's just a perspective about the giant difference of POVs depending on the case (or gender). And I said ily because you always bring up great arguments to the table and this is very good for provoking and promoting reflections on complex subjects like these. Anyways, love the complexity of this show and love the channel!!!

[@neonoires]

Right! I don’t need Shiv to be a “good” person or likable because I don’t think any of the people on this show are likable, they’re charismatic but I would not like them if I knew them. It’s just weird to me how much hate Shiv gets when this is a show full of awful people.

[@jainttt]

im not sure which is funnier, kendall singing “fam-ily therapy!” or zuff drinking from his comically large water bottle

[@heligolightly]

This episode is such a brilliant and accurate depiction of dysfunctional families and especially narcissistic parents. Just unable to empathise with anyone or simply admit mistakes. His own view of reality and actions is so twisted that he pretends all he’s ever done was for his children when it actually couldn’t be further from the truth. I mean he’s verbally and emotionally abusing them left, right and centre. I can’t even picture him ever telling them that he loves them or is proud of them.

[@jalyn947]

Tom isn’t some innocent romantic. He’s just as opportunistic and cruel. you see it by how he treats Greg

[@EK-kd3qe]

You are being too cruel

[@neonoires]

@@Sc-dd6hbthank you for bringing up Logan too because Tom gets shit on by the whole family, not just Shiv. The boys treat him how they treat him because they know Tom will stick around, Shiv is doing the exact same thing.

[@BingBong422]

This show brilliantly portrays power dynamics. Tom has power over Greg, Shiv has power over Tom, and Logan has power over Shiv. And all of them abuse that power throughout the show.

[@caribbeanadams3345]

eh that's not totally accurate. tom has multiple opportunities to tell on greg and doesn't. out of all the relationships in the show theirs are the most consistent. this agenda to make tom seem like he just like the roys when he can't get away with the things they do is ridiculous.

[@SnailHatan]

@@caribbeanadams3345Tom gets away with everything that he possibly can. The fact that he can’t do as much as the Roys means nothing. He abuses what power he has at damn near every chance he gets. Same as everyone else

[@mariascarsella5509]

I’m glad Rob brought up the white lotus cheating double standard. We didn’t forget Zuff lol

[@neonoires]

Omg yes I was thinking about this too. Zuff hated Sarah from OBX too but didn’t think Ethan cheated when they did the same thing.

[@11ibi]

This was such a good episode especially seeing the way Logan behaved but I totally agree with you rob that is not an excuse for him to pass on the trauma to his kids he needs to heal as well loving the reactions

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

FAMILY THERAPY 👏 👏-👏👏👏

[@logan-pe4rm]

Without any spoilers, I’d reckon that Logan’s scars symbolize what this show is truly about at it’s core: INTERGENERATIONAL TRAUMA. And what Kendall said about Logan “being jealous of what he has given his kids” does hold quite a lot of water. It’s true. Logan cannot handle it, because he knows that every one of children’s faults is a subsequential byproduct of the cage that he built around them. The scars symbolize the suffering, abuse, blood sweat and tears that Logan has spilled and suffered to build this empire, so you understand why he’s so quick to jump to emotional high points (see: his outrage at Shiv for pursuing her own path separate from her father’s control or his fury at Kendall last episode) when his kids start to seem like they take this all for granted or aren’t 24/7 appreciative & fiercely loyal to their father. I think about this quote from NYT regarding Logan Roy’s relationship with his children and Waystar: “In the case of the Roy children, who have suffered their father’s abuse their whole lives, that security has taken the form of endless amounts of money and power that might seal them off from anything objectionable. They live in a luxurious snow globe world where they have all of the very finest things. Yet the money that affords them such a heightened lifestyle has also sealed them inside the snow globe with a father who terrorizes them.” Deep down, Logan does love his kids. But he is a cruel, vindictive, greedy man who sees every social interaction as act of commerce. He simply cannot view things like family discourse, relationships, or his personal relationships with his kids as anything other than an exchange of material goods/capital for another. His kids are being nice to him because they need X from him, his coworkers are on his side because in the future they’ll request Y from him, and the list goes on. Logan has put himself into a position where he is the single man who wields the most power in the company, like Zeus with a brain addled by old age refusing to let go of his deathgrip on the lightning that he continually hovers over his children’s heads in order to bait them into doing what he pleases - while knowing full well that he has no intention to release his iron-clad grip. It is impossible to have a regular civil relationship with him when you have full knowledge that he is wielding all of the power in practically every situation. Just look at how carefully his coworkers and subordinates tread grounds, just his stoic presence in the room during the board meeting was enough to terrify everyone into silence and subordination. And if that’s how utterly terrified the employees who work for him are, imagine his children who grew up with that 10ft tall bulletproof monster hovering over them like a vengeful wraith.

[@jaysaysnope]

you ate this omg

[@rn6610]

Its kinda wild to say Shiv is selfish for choosing who to work for in her professional life. Logan loves to preach that business isn't personal but then cant do the same when his kids make decisions for themselves. Also it always confuses me when people have such a problem with shiv cheating butthen don't seem to have the same energy with other characters faults up to this point( Tom covering up murder and rape along with abusing his authority with gregg , logan emotionally abusing his children, + other things that have yet to happen).

[@giovannaandrade1939]

I think this cheating is by far one of the chillest bad attitudes in this show compared to what all of them have been doing. It's not like Tom is a saint.

[@nataliabellangero9830]

0:45 facts rob, factsssss!

[@dpat74]

you guys didn't include it, but at the beginning of the episode, the kids joke about Logan not being able to swim, and you see the scars at the end. it points to Logan having a very abusive childhood and also the lengths Logan went to hide it from his kids, the whole lie of him not being able to swim... so his kids never see his scars

[@kiaraluz19]

Rob always saying what the girls are thinking: she dindt cheat THANK U VERY MUCH! Tom its not a saint as well. None of these people deserve this level of compassion from us!

[@blueyeshadow2738]

One thing to note is that although shiv and toms relationship is super fucked. She does love him - in the only way she can, in the only way her father taught her to which is selfishly

[@OwnYourBaldSpot]

Totally agree, their traumas don’t justify what they do, but it perfectly explains it. They’re ALL why they are for a reason, and even if it’s not excusable, it’s understandable

[@Rash23215]

It's funny these guys never describe tom as gold digger....if he was a woman, they (mainly zuff) would've called him gold digger every single time....

[@ambriaashley3383]

💯

[@roadrunneruntd]

A gold digger is more into the money and material wealth tho. Tom already has that because he comes from money ( just not the level of the Roys). What Tom values is the prestige and power that comes with being associated with the Roys, which is something he doesnt have at this point. He is an outsider to the family , so he'll eat shit if it means he will be in the good graces of whoever the power holder is which is why he was flip flopping with Kendall and Logan.

[@Rash23215]

@@roadrunneruntd lol..... making up weird justifications now, are we??? He IS a gold digger PERIOD.

[@thatboysnarly4471]

@@roadrunneruntd Yeah I agree it's the power. Because I wouldn't call a hundred millionaire who decides to date a billionaire a gold digger.

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

Those scars a really nice subtle way to remind everyone, that the abuse is often a cycle and its very difficult to get out of it. We could even say that the fact that Shiv and Ken have both proven to be shit romantic partners (Ken leaving coke on the tablets of his kids, Shiv cheating) could be called a new generation manifestation of that cycle. They ar enot outright abusive like their father, but do have extremely toxic traits that hurt the people around them...and well Roman, is Roman.

[@JoyaLewisTheMusician]

That intro makes me miss my guy friends in college - yall just overlapping convos and arguing sort of - so funny! 😂❤

[@OwnYourBaldSpot]

Logan’s childhood definitely was a big part of making him who he is. He was raised by his uncle.

[@EliBrigante]

I love the beginning lmao it reminds me of my brothers and boys watching a show or sports and debating on it. Come On You Spurs

[@KelseasComments]

Shiv absolutely cheated. Intent matters. She intended to cheat. Having the intention of cheating is just as bad. She cheated. When you have to say "she EMOTIONALLY cheated..." you're just describing a type of CHEATING lol.

[@ulricaandrae4381]

This show is so good! I live watching it again with you guys because your discussions in the outro makes me open my eyes on things I’ve missed. Like the scars on Logans back. Totally missed it. They are all horrible ppl but I can’t help to pitty them at the same time. Kieran Culkin does such a great job as Roman. Every twitch is genious.

[@carolina61932]

Tome hid r*ape and murder and used Greg to do it but that was played for laughs. Shiv cheating is seen as this super serious mean thing to do to poor poor Tom. Everyone treats Tom like shit and he lets them because he wants to be powerful too. None of these people are good at all but it goes to show how hard women are judged compared to others.

[@RobertMorgan]

Everything Tom did was out of LOYALTY to Shiv and more importantly her family. Everything she's done is out of selfish betrayal. It gets pretty SADISTIC later on, especially after he's trapped in the marriage and she opens it.

[@carolina61932]

@@RobertMorgan loyalty and self interest go hand in hand with him. There's really no morally good characters in this series. I'm not saying he doesn't love Shiv but I think they both use each other on different ways

[@ambriaashley3383]

@@RobertMorgannot loyalty to her, loyalty to the money. And to the power that her family can provide. A gold digger. But this is before he was trapped in the marriage.

[@tomsgrexit]

He tried to come forward, but Greg went and blabbed to Gerri actually! So wild how many people seem to forget about that. Greg has only served his own interests since he was introduced and Tom still took him to the top with him!

[@joc7996]

hurt people hurt people. i find only the bravest will be able to break the generational trauma. because it it tough and complex to break it. it takes a lot of work.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Many thanks to Zuff, Rob & Bryce! 💸

[@HoundsBane]

Yes! They’re turnin & burnin through these 👏🏿

[@auntvesuvi3872]

@@HoundsBane Indeed, they are, Andrew. 🫂

[@zina2435]

god, this show!! you can feel bad for every character bc they are a family of tortured souls. but then they perpetuate their trauma and abuse their power with no hesitation 😭 also roman and kendall are so babygirl

[@jainthorne4136]

Knowing what's coming, it was interesting and fun to hear the discussion of 'Did Shiv cheat or not"? Way worse coming. Way, way worse.

[@jaydock1]

I am so here for this!

[@mariaa6610]

It’s funny that you guys mentioned Will Ferrell, because he’s actually an executive producer of this show

[@kalelbutler4147]

Yup! He named Willa after himself

[@autumnnin]

I feel bad for Kendall

[@y.u.n.gg_tellyy]

I thought I was the only one 😭😭

[@JudgeDredd_]

A helicopter from New York to New Mexico hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@davidtrainor9569]

Connor's relationship isn't real, but it's weirdly the most honest and respectful. Probably a side-effect of distance between him and the rest of the family.

[@ziphesithole4597]

Kendall a good father, lol 😅

[@Gkwilson1487]

Yeah it’s a reference to the Uncle who abused Logan as a kid

[@EliBrigante]

Have you guys watched The Sopranos or The Wire?

[@Zaddy34-s6b]

Not sure if u guys take request from KZbin (not subbed to ur patreon unfortunately), but was hoping one of these days u react to more Indian movies. Please do watch “Jawan”. It’s a relatively newer release n very good! Y’all loved RRR, n pretty sure you’ll like this too;)

[@Bruce-r4z]

Tom completely emasculated by his soon to be father in law is one of the greatest moments on this show to this point. I maybe be in the minority but i understand Logan more as when your invested and buiold something someone coming along and just wanting the power with no understanding of the true effort to build wont understand. I dont like something about him (having Shiv touch him drug induced or not was gross) but I'm 80/20 on him. Love the show and reactions

[@cb5056]

Roman's name is Roman, Romulus is just a nickname

[@breawhite6]

Can u guys watch the Selena movie next !!

[@marcuscartaciano]

Watch sinister movie please

[@richieb3356]

Dude doesn't know what literally means lol

[@y.u.n.gg_tellyy]

Logan is a bad person honestly it’s so hard to like him the way he reacts to things is just so painful to watch that’s why I always root for Kendall

[@KelseasComments]

To say that Shiv and Tom's relationship is "all business" is inaccurate. You just don't fully understand their dynamic yet.

[@y.u.n.gg_tellyy]

Guys I hate Logan I’m sorry😭😭wait no I’m not even sorry I hate him