Horrid History of the Hope (Outer Worlds Lore)

[@CaptainKapitan]

15:15 "No pressure" Me: [Dumb] "I'ma manual control the micro jump. I know my numbers well!" *Crashes the Hope into the Sun*

[@dagothur2666]

The best video game example of hold my beer I got this ever

[@unknownvalor9755]

For me it seems the Hope passed by something massive which caused it to bump out of skip. Since the path was predetermined cleared of mass gravity shadows then something under its own momentum crossed paths with the Hope. (This is my guess as to what happened to Earth). Unknown X factor detects the Hope flying off into random direction then traces the path back to Earth.

[@soundcloudpandapandawa2997]

This would connect with that theory about aliens that lady on the groundbreaker was talking about

[@TheCorrodedMan]

James Dorsey She was looking for Body Snatchers though, not Brethren Moons.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

B R O T H E R M O O N S A R E A W A K E

[@451asians]

Earth only went dark 3 years ago tho

[@skefsongames]

@@451asians I think its aliens, Lilya (think thats her name) might be right to some extent, since we know alien fauna exist in the universe of the outer worlds, its not that much of a stretch to think its intelligent aliens

[@gregfollender4978]

Incidentally... if you look carefully as you enter The Hope's interior... on the left side near the beginning area, one can find a jammed, sparking, slightly ajar door that, if one crouches closely, one can observe a leaning human skeleton just within the aperture! Kinda creepy... but perhaps one of the last few survivors (the Engineer?) we never get to see...

[@mr.coomcoom]

What ever caused the communication problem with earth is the most likely culprit in the drive failing. Also remember the UDL ship that they lost contact with also disappeared around the same time. Maybe something destroyed the earth's system or is blocking transport between both systems. That's my best guess.

[@roguerifter9724]

Its interesting because the description of how the Skip drive works given in the loading screens basically matches how Zefram Cochrane described Star Trek's warp drive working in an old, utterly decanonized novel but the description of a skip jump taking a lot of fuel but remaining at FTL taking mach less fits how the Star Wars hyperdrive was described in one of the Legends X-Wing novels.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Strange that they didn't at least try to use the pods the canibals had emptied already (freezing themselves...it's at least a chance!)

[@Mate397]

Keep in mind that prolonged starvation and ingestion of humanflesh tends to degrade the rational thinking.

[@corradomorgana]

@@Mate397 How do you know that the Hope can actually start the cryo process? Cryo off site and pod store? It's an intergalactic ice cream truck..

[@ChuckPalomo]

That's exactly what i was gonna say. In one of the logs the captain even threatens to freeze anyone committing cannibalism to be tried in a court of law once the reach Halcyon, meaning freezing people mid-voyage was totally possible. Why not just freeze everyone then? problem solved. Makes absolutely no sense.

[@nadrewod999]

The problem is that, by freezing all of the crew members, the ship would be entirely reliant on whoever reached the vessel first to UNfreeze them, and they would have no way of finishing the navigational calculations if they froze themselves early. Add the fact that the cannibals would have had a much larger diet of fats and protein than the slowly-starving captain, and the captain may have simply not had the manpower to stop all of the mutinous cannibals (hence why the captain had to lock the bridge and the cryo bays, as well as why the navigator was alone after the captain left).

[@ChuckPalomo]

@@nadrewod999 What are you getting at? that's no worse than dying from starvation. Besides, they could've just frozen all non-essential personnel, finished the calculations, then frozen whoever was left. You're assuming that the cannibals would've stopped the captain from freezing everyone, but that's circular reasoning; there would've been no cannibals if everyone went into cryosleep before they got desperate enough to start eating people. There is no scenario where going into cryosleep is not the best all round solution.

[@sebastianmaregatti]

It’s not obisidian’s style but I pray the same character returns. I miss him and my crew

[@Maxx_XIII]

It would be cool if a sequel would have us meet our character from the first game in some capacity. Either make a single canon look for the "Stranger", or load their appearance from the first game's save file to carry over to the sequel. Even if just to see them, the plot doesn't have to revolve around them. Dragon Ball Xenoverse did that the main custom character appearing in the sequel.

[@ReaverTheSurvivalist]

@@Maxx_XIII yES LOAD FROM PREVIOUS SAVE

[@wildwikedwanderer1208]

Thank you for this man I wanted the lore behind this couldn’t piece it together myself

[@_Hofnarr]

Rick, thank you so much for this vid. Hearing you put the fate of The Hope into one cohesive story with your great voice was wonderful. I found the fate of the ship to be a really moving experience as I uncovered the terminals and made my way around but I've never been very good at connecting with video game RPG story lines. Something about the fractured nature broken up by gameplay elements always frustrates me so I end up enjoying the story but not nearly as much as if I'd just read it in a book or seen it in a movie. Your narrative just now really brought it all together for me. I really do hope you come back to this story later as I'd love to hear your take on it all.

[@jonmartin299]

I thought the colony was hiding dark secrets. Imagine delving into more of the next Outer World's or maybe a prequel.

[@ChuckPalomo]

You can tell this part of the game wasn't given much thought. Why didn't the crew just go into cryostasis to avoid starvation? why did the skip drive work for the player when it was supposed to have been completely busted (the very reason the Hope got lost in the first place)? why did the UDL commander in charge of the place say the Hope wasn't worth guarding, and that he didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to actually go there, when in fact Phineas Welles, the most wanted fugitive in the system, broke into the place just a few short weeks ago? plus, the location and existence of the Hope was supposed to be a sate secret, yet he acts like it's public knowledge and the most mundane thing in the world. The writing was all over the place.

[@toddpeucker9905]

ChuckPalomo Remember the part about the board not investing in preparation or things concerning precautions for the unseen? The crew had no cryo-pods set aside for them since the trip was only supposed to be ten years. I'm guessing once a cryo-pod is opened, it can't be repurposed for slumber. There is probably assigned protocols and matching biometric authentication IDs and so on. Also Welled wasn't an outlaw by the time he happened upon the hope. It wasn't until his unsanctioned experiments for years made him wanted by UDL The only real mystery for me is how you the player was revived and didn't go on to have cellular breakdown. .

[@ChuckPalomo]

@@toddpeucker9905 That explanation falls apart when you read a log by the captain who threatens anybody collaborating with the cannibal engineer to be put in hibernation so they can be court martialed once they reach Halcyon. So they absolutely had usable cryo-pods. And don't you go saying that he was bluffing or something, cause that would be a blatant ass pull. Plus there's the other stuff I listed. Sometimes you have to stop looking for logical explanations where none exist and just accept the fact that stories are written by humans, and no story is ever gonna be 100% airtight. It's not the player's job to fix plot holes.

[@toddpeucker9905]

ChuckPalomo I don't remember such a log..but I do remember a similar one talking about abettors being put in the brig. I also don't know what you mean by "other stuff I listed". The Story is pretty straight forward.

[@ChuckPalomo]

@@toddpeucker9905 The other stuff being my question about the busted skip drive and the weird attitude of the UDL commander, I think his name was Quincy or something like that. You say Phineas wasn't a wanted fugitive at the time they found the Hope, but I'm referring to when he broke into the ship to steal you pod, which happened at the beginning of the game, by which time was was already public enemy number 1.

[@toddpeucker9905]

ChuckPalomo it's understood he had been discovered to have been doing experiments for some time by the time he takes out your pod. I'm not sure what skip drive issue you're referring to. the Hope made it to Halcyon decades late under regular engine power, not by FTL. HHC put in orbit near Typhon after it arrived and stated it was lost because they couldn't feed the existing people much less another several hundred thousand. The commander probably felt it was a waste to guard it because he knew the board had basically abandoned it as a low priority and that all the board soldiers knew this, hence his "common knowledge" attitude. Not to the everyday man but to anyone working for HHC. The beginning is fast so the events move quickly off screen. Welles knows he's being tracked so he pulls your pod and while your waking up and answering questions (essentially creating your character stats) he is travelling back to his lab near terra 2. The board starts to close in and he drops you into terra 2 orbit towards Hawthorne's ship. While he goes FTL in his ship most likely to his modified asteroid lab. I know some may think it appears he skips the Hope, but no, it remains in orbit where HHC parked it years earlier. Remember the only thing that was keeping it from FTL after the malfunction of the slow down or "brakes being engaged" as the logs say, is that they didn't have enough power to initiate a second skip. You solve this at the end of the game by having the much more advanced Reliable connect with its systems and route auxiliary power enough to make the short skip to Welles' lab....anything else you need Chuck?

[@TheCorrodedMan]

This just shows that Obsidian has only gotten better with their story telling chops. You can’t help but imagine what it’ll be like for that young boy to wake up and realize that his mother and father are gone, and that he’ll have to grow up without them.

[@mattstorm360]

That boy will become my space cadet on the un-reliable.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

@@mattstorm360 Indeed, he’ll be the bane of monsters and cannibals across the system

[@darinbauer8122]

There was an 'Alien Encounters,' comic book or something similar to that title... Been awhile. ['90s] The scientists and engineers may have made a post-lift off mistake. The last frame depicts a skeleton in a space suit strapped to a chair on a space ship, suit-helmet open, teeth embedded on to a can of food. [I think they forgot a can opener...] [This was too gross! I liked the first one better!]

[@evocatiproductions]

I really do love your Star Trek Videos, but these are fricking good! I really hope you continue them!

[@maximjanssens9320]

Pun not intented

[@skept659]

This is so well put together I watched it twice...I've played the game 5ish times.

[@havoksaar7905]

Man love the video! Love the lore over outer worlds! Hope you can continue.

[@HongFeiBai]

I think the crew didn't go into cryo not just because there wasn't enough room for everyone, but also because by the time things were too far gone and they weren't thinking straight, the cannibals accused the captain and the non-cannibals that they just wanted all the colonists to themselves and would end up being eaten themselves (since maybe someone has to activate crying from outside.) That would still give them more rations. However, rations don't last forever. Still, Groundbreaker or at least other ships could've checked up on the colonists later, if even Alex Hawthorne's ship can fly to The Hope.

[@PuneetMehra]

Sir, your lore videos are amazing. You should have a lot more subscribers. But alas, today’s generation does not appreciate storytelling much it seems. Please keep on making lore series. Stay safe. Cheers from India.

[@MtnNerd]

The crazy part is realizing that the reason all the job descriptions at the opening of the game are low level worker is because they are the people Gage must have considered expendable.

[@gracesprocket7340]

I only see a score or so of open pods in bay 12. I would assume that Welles having in his *first* entry recorded 12 failures and 'on to number 13', and additional entries up to and beyond the board 'catching him' as a murderer and monster - that the vast majority of the missing ~3200 colonists failed to revitalise in his experiments on the Hope and later in his off site lab. Perhaps even most of the spilled gloop comes from Welles failed early attempts on the Hope at the start, rather than from the cannibals alone. Did the board not attempt to revive a few of the colonists (where Welles first was involved), and abandoned it as impossible... while Welles refused to give up, 'in the spirit of scientific advancement'. Some small number of the 3200 may even be 'officially' defrosted by the board.

[@mattstorm360]

Considering their situation, they didn't have a plan for new colonists or a way to house them and feed them. It's easier to just let them sleep till something comes up but I'm willing to bet someone tried to wake a couple people up only to find them explode into goo. Makes the decision a hell lot easier, they can't wake them up. That just leaves their decision to not investigate a way to save them resulting in Welles having to do it in secret and without any real knowledge of what exactly explosive cell death is resulted in the deaths of several subjects, but, they were all dead anyway... I don't see him being able to experiment with thousands of people, or needing too. Even then, I doubt the board wouldn't notice a thousand people missing after the hope arrives. They noticed after 12. The crew are more likely the result of the majority of pods. Most for eating the rest in a desperate struggle to find someone who won't explode.

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

These are great. Please keep doing them.

[@brandonblack5910]

Love these videos man i dont like reading the computers so its great to get the info from you

[@stephcampbell9277]

I hope you do cover more of this game. Your videos are very enjoyable

[@reven175]

This story of the hope could have made a awesome movie

[@infinitum_est_finis2485]

There is a movie with a similar premise called Aniara. I recommend Elvis The Alien’s review of it

[@maximedaunis8292]

It's absolutely awful, the cannibalism, the crew member who just gave up to die while the other where fighting to save the hope from the cannibals. It reminds me of the pandorum movie...

[@M3PH11]

Considering the game basically does this but in a much more long winded and roundabout way, this series, imo, is better than the game.

[@jamesevanston8334]

Great Vids! I hop;e you do do more of them, I'll be watching, and Thanks!

[@j-tothe-ay]

Nice we'll put together video dude. I'll keep an eye out for more for sure

[@sebastianmaregatti]

What company built the ship? Vault-tec?

[@leeburnley]

😂😂

[@mattstorm360]

Sounds like them. What would happen if a ship full of frozen colonists fell out of slip space and had to make the last 20 so years with only one year of food for the crew that are awake... The results are fascinating and very useful! Or so I am told.

[@protocetus499]

Robco Industries

[@Xo-3130]

@@protocetus499 Robco is one of the more competent companies. Much of what they make does as is and their founder Mr House likely would find any such flaws as a blow to his ego and would make certain it never happens.

[@Salveteimperium]

The trip was dark..

[@barrybend7189]

Do Zeon from Mobile Suit Gundam.

[@natapendrid3545]

More outer worlds lore please 🤘🏽

[@Rossweise]

I don't know if you have time or has done it already, but a Vid on the (Un)Reliable would be cool if you could Rick... It's a really cool ship!

[@avenged7xXxXxX]

Love the vids!

[@mattstorm360]

This is a great video.

[@TrensGemini]

Using Parvati for sales pitch is a low blow

[@rowenabrown2957]

How gruesome! I was listening to this behind my hands (metaphorically speaking). I'm curious to know more about this world!

[@peger]

As for the captain, he was probably eaten.

[@danieljames1868]

Ain't no party like a donner party...

[@_Hofnarr]

Love your content but can't watch this one yet, I'm still only a few hours into the game! Will be back after I've finished my first run.

[@starling1226]

Have you finished yet?

[@_Hofnarr]

@@starling1226 What amazing timing you have. I literally just finished 2 minutes ago and am still processing the ending. For context my companions were Nyoka and Ellie. I completed both of their quest lines. I also did a bit for the Vicar and for Parvati but I didn't complete them and I did noting for Felix besides recruit and forgot. The poor droid sits neglected in his cubby, alas. Figured I was in for a pretty bleak ending since some of my choices were on the dodgy side and I completely ignored Scylla but it actually all worked out pretty well. High personality/tech build, playing on normal. Skipped to Monarch way early to see if i could, probably only made it through 'cause of normal difficulty. I'll do the next run on hard and with different companions and I might go the corp route if I can stomach it. Got pretty emotional when the factions i'd done well by joined me at the end, got to admit. Damn good game all in all.

[@johnlittle1137]

I've just got this game and am a keen Trek fan so have followed your exploits on sto with mission play through vids, I really enjoyed the presentation and dialog of those vids and am hoping you do roughly do the same here please lol!

[@benjaminodonnell258]

How was it that cannibalizing the frozen colonists worked at the start, but then failed to work due to liquifaction?

[@mikesurlygentlemanwalton]

Whelp, I'm convinced due to this video I'm all in on this game. Still want STO stories though...

[@jacobfaro794]

5:40 Yeah sure, plentiful.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Of course! Why, for a completely affordable price of Two thousand bits and a thumb, you’ll be fed for life!

[@sorcererberoll4641]

Where food will be plentiful ha of all the places I’ve seen the only one that has an excess of food is Byzantium

[@antcow1239]

Hard. Core.

[@woufff_]

I need to refrain watching this, still trying to solve issues on Monarch for MSI with that drunken lady, I mean my future crewmate. Needless to say... I‘ll be back :)

[@davidburton2229]

do a play through please :)

[@vis_viva]

I did it for Parvati!

[@Max_Flashheart]

Loved it

[@MattandSadieBug]

Why does everyone like Pavarti so much? Her story has no revelation and it's quite bland compared to Vicar Max, Felix, or Nyoka

[@redomer91]

Cause why gals are cute? Idk

[@skydroid3141]

Because the space engineer asexual lesbian romance is surprisingly well written in a world where there really isn't much representation of relationships that are not utterly selfish and without chemistry. But to be fair, the game is clearly rushed and none of the characters get a nuanced enough exploration of their traits and beliefs. A shame really.

[@MattandSadieBug]

@@skydroid3141 it is well written, but that's it. I would of loved to learn more about her father with more of a story arc in that direction as well.

[@skydroid3141]

@@MattandSadieBug Oh definitely. It is a shame that the game has literally no mod support for people to add or fix like many did in new vegas. So most likely it will never get expanded upon. A shame really.

[@Buzgut]

Fressshhh looooore

[@SolidusJack]

Was I the only one who skipped the hope correctly on the first try?

[@sikenah103]

Microsoft should do a special anime of these events

[@tyreecebaker6600]

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