Horrific Freefall into the Deepest Ocean | The Sad Story of Flight 447

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Air Crash Investigation

Air Crash Investigation

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This is one of aviation's greatest mysteries. A top-notch aircraft, an experienced crew, and a sudden, terrifying descent into the unknown.
This is the story of Air France Flight 447.
Final report - bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp0906...
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00:00 Intro
00:43 Warning & Disclaimer
00:59 Background
02:32 Crew
03:15 Take off
03:48 Cruise
04:18 Intertropical Convergence Zone
05:10 Flying through an area of weak thunderstorms/turbulence
06:57 Pitot tubes start picking up Ice particles
07:17 Pitot Tubes Explanation
08:02 Pitot tubes freeze up
08:59 Stall Explanation
09:13 Struggling to gain control
11:05 Maximum altitude reached
11:17 Freefall
15:42 Crash
16:47 In Memory of the 228 lives lost
17:04 Rescue Operation
18:10 Final Report

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@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
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@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 2 ай бұрын
Why is it there are 13 plus thousand views and I was the 333rd like 👍🏼 and I see this all the time. This is the first time I’m watching your channel and with all the work put into it I just don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to press the like button if they’re gonna watch something. Do it before you forget at the end, you can always undo it if you hate it. 🤦🏻‍♀️ it’s the first thing I do when I decide to actually watch a video. And if something turned out to be totally insulting and or insane, I just unlike it.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
🥰@@rachmunshine9474
@stevenwest000
@stevenwest000 2 ай бұрын
It’s easy to underestimate the work that goes into these videos
@Lucy-el9mm
@Lucy-el9mm 2 ай бұрын
The like button leaves everything you’ve liked on your “liked” button, once I’ve watched somthinf I don’t need ir to be stored in my profile. I only like songs I want to go back to and listen to again, other than that there’s no need to like videos I’ll watch once and never go back to. KZbin needs a heart button so I can heart the video and not have ir stored on my profile in the liked section
@jesusourlord9745
@jesusourlord9745 2 ай бұрын
We don’t enjoy it we stress ourselves
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 2 ай бұрын
Plane crashes are always terrifying but an ocean crash at night in bad weather is just horrifyingly cruel 😔🙏 rest easy, victims
@michaela7100
@michaela7100 Ай бұрын
Honestly, most of them would have been asleep and would not have known, given the fact the plane hit the water in a near level position. I do believe that there should be flight recorder microphones in the cabin. This should be made available to the public, to hold airlines and manufacturers to account.
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford Ай бұрын
@@michaela7100are you joking? I wish that were true but that plane mushed down to the ocean at a huge speed. The plane would also be violently moving from side to side. You think they just landed in the sea like a plane lands at an airport 😂
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford Ай бұрын
@@michaela7100also the recorder is available. Your lack of knowledge but still making a comment is astounding
@Jeff-sp7bg
@Jeff-sp7bg Ай бұрын
Mushed?
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 Ай бұрын
I think I would prefer that to any other. Not having visual references would be better.
@Pelenaiful
@Pelenaiful 3 ай бұрын
Very nice to have a section dedicated to the moment of silence for the victims. They always seem to dissapear in the statistics and dramatizations, but they are the most important in all tragedies.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
@stevenwest000
@stevenwest000 2 ай бұрын
Very true
@moreflowfalls2404
@moreflowfalls2404 2 ай бұрын
for sure. 100%Respect!!
@SamuraiCop
@SamuraiCop 2 ай бұрын
So classy
@Mau-map3
@Mau-map3 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@robertg305
@robertg305 2 ай бұрын
Man this gave me anxiety. Imagine how the passengers must’ve felt as this plane was going down
@ClarissaTozzi-rb5is
@ClarissaTozzi-rb5is 2 ай бұрын
​@@giovanninaves I do hope so
@picolina74
@picolina74 2 ай бұрын
There’s full documentary about this crash in more details and the experts are saying that unfortunately passengers could feel they were going down theh were aware that the plane was going to crash
@maurolima7135
@maurolima7135 2 ай бұрын
​@@picolina74which one?
@youngOG87
@youngOG87 2 ай бұрын
Nightmare scenario for me I have a great fear of both crashing in an airplane and the ocean at night
@laurenz4528
@laurenz4528 2 ай бұрын
For that reason I have a pack of cigarettes and lighter on hand while flying, if I go down at least I’ll have a last smoke lol
@mmouseav8r402
@mmouseav8r402 2 ай бұрын
As a cargo pilot, I've flown over the same flight path. The weather in that area is frightening, nowhere to go.
@Iamthewarner557
@Iamthewarner557 2 ай бұрын
We all will die one day. So follow the right path Islam. I invite you to Islam. Our creator is only one Allah. He will resurrect us on the day of Judgment and we have to give answer of our deeds. Why God created human being? God almighty says, “Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose) and that you would not be brought back to Us?” (Quran 23:115) From above verse, we can conclude, we were indeed created for a purpose beyond that of simply play and enjoyment in this life. We have the purpose of life that we should know and have to live life according to that purpose. God describes purpose of this life, I have not created the jinn and the men except for this that they should worship Me. I do not ask any sustenance of them, nor do I ask them to feed Me. Allah Himself is the Sustainer, Possessor of power and might. Quran 51 (56-58) Humans will live forever after death. This life is temporary. True life is the life after death. Once we die our creator will again resurrect us on the Judgment day. And on that day if you have believed in Allah and have followed his book Quran then you will be succeed in hereafter life. God almighty says, We have not created the heavens and the earth and whatever lies between them merely in sport: We have created them with the truth, but most of them do not know. For the resurrection of them all, the appointed time is the Day of Decision. Qur'an 44 (38:40) The day of Decision means the day of Judgment when Allah almighty will gather all Mankind starting from First to the last. Allah almighty will resurrect them which means Allah will give us life after death. And on that day if you have believed in Allah and have followed his final revelation Qur'an then we will be given eternal life in Paradise. And if you disbelieve in Allah then painful punishment is ready for the disbelievers in the hellfire forever.
@mmouseav8r402
@mmouseav8r402 2 ай бұрын
@@Iamthewarner557 No thanks.
@bfh7777
@bfh7777 2 ай бұрын
​@@mmouseav8r402 👽👽ohh im scared, i bet hes chanting for us to goto hell now for saying no to his so precious offer now.
@nova9672
@nova9672 2 ай бұрын
@@mmouseav8r402listen to him. Islam is the right path. Just give it a chance and learn.
@BangAverage10
@BangAverage10 2 ай бұрын
@@Iamthewarner557 lol
@lampamarc365
@lampamarc365 2 ай бұрын
I’m from Brazil . I will never forget this tragedy because my teacher’s nephew was on that plane , I still remember the prayer we did in her class. I was 10 years old but I will never forget the sadness on her face
@juliemcgugan1244
@juliemcgugan1244 2 ай бұрын
I also know somebody whose young child was on that flight, returning to boarding school. He used to go to my school, but they had moved to Brazil and he was then enrolled in boarding school, in the UK. After a school holiday, spent with his parents in their new country, he was put on the flight back to the UK, going first to CDG airport in Paris, then connecting to a flight to LHR. But the flight sadly never made it to CDG. I can’t imagine their life now; he was their only son and eldest child and the fact that he was alone on the flight, when it went down… I just have no words! RIP, Alexander 💔
@1DarkBlossom
@1DarkBlossom 2 ай бұрын
@@lennonsvrchannel News flash: Brazil has the second largest Christian population. It’s not like everyone is a devout Christian, it’s rather ingrained in their culture. You’re welcome
@Bob31415
@Bob31415 2 ай бұрын
@@lennonsvrchannel Whatever you say Lucifer.
@HydraVolt12
@HydraVolt12 2 ай бұрын
​@@lennonsvrchannelpeople like you are why I'm always ashamed to say I'm an atheist. Having respect for other beliefs isn't hard.
@Ozzie1758
@Ozzie1758 2 ай бұрын
​@@1DarkBlossomChrétiens du carnaval
@ytang5615
@ytang5615 2 ай бұрын
Excellent narrator, no hyped voice, perfect pitch, ...makes a lot of difference for a listener.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@SandyCheeks68
@SandyCheeks68 2 ай бұрын
And it doesn't sound computer generated! I hate those.
@gerrickhan
@gerrickhan Ай бұрын
It sounds like a CGI Matt Berry lol
@vulpesinculta1919
@vulpesinculta1919 27 күн бұрын
I thought it was Peter Serafinowicz
@SavageDragon999
@SavageDragon999 14 күн бұрын
Imagine if this was narrated by NasDaily or Real Life lore
@uttermanbo
@uttermanbo 2 ай бұрын
Imagine the feeling during those three minutes of the freefall. You can see the lightning, feel the plane descending. You know you are over the middle of the ocean, and you are not going to survive the impact. Truly terrifying.
@user-fx9or3hc7y
@user-fx9or3hc7y 2 ай бұрын
Horrendous !! 😮💀
@ajay.gillig
@ajay.gillig 2 ай бұрын
@@nickslick75You must be fun at parties
@ethanreaves8429
@ethanreaves8429 2 ай бұрын
​@@ajay.gilligI'm sure he's never invited
@DaYungeen
@DaYungeen 2 ай бұрын
@ajay.gillig @ethanreaves8429 Yooo yall are funnyyy😂😂😂😂
@ThaiaGardener
@ThaiaGardener 2 ай бұрын
I had extreme anxiety throughout the video
@clyope4ever101
@clyope4ever101 2 ай бұрын
I am a flight attendant currently studying to be a pilot. I like watching these videos to learn about prior accidents and they are so important for cabin crew to know. Rest in peace to all of the passengers and flight crew.
@Arvigeus
@Arvigeus 2 ай бұрын
Good luck on your studying! Hope you'll bring a safer sky with you! Funny, one day I might be on your flight and I will never know it :)
@wovemalkalivan306
@wovemalkalivan306 2 ай бұрын
@@Rick52527 What do you mean by that? I think 99% of the pilots are watching stuff like this if we are watching
@user-kl8bq3gu6f
@user-kl8bq3gu6f 2 ай бұрын
...what would cabin crew have possibly done to prevent this?????
@josefhoffrogge3587
@josefhoffrogge3587 2 ай бұрын
​@@wovemalkalivan306w
@Ayechkn
@Ayechkn 2 ай бұрын
Wishing you a lifetime of success and fulfillment ❤️😊
@troymitchell1931
@troymitchell1931 2 ай бұрын
“Hey Captain welcome back from your nap.. Our plane is going down”
@reggietheplague1143
@reggietheplague1143 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@faultytitties
@faultytitties 2 ай бұрын
Because of our incompetence
@jaimecruz5608
@jaimecruz5608 2 ай бұрын
My point sometimes is not the plane itself is human error that cause most accidents, meaning maintenance check or doing half job on repairs etc
@SlickNick98
@SlickNick98 2 ай бұрын
Just to go right back to sleep forever
@Levi-in8eq
@Levi-in8eq 2 ай бұрын
Co pilot did everything he could to crash the plane.
@jahterminatedlmao5473
@jahterminatedlmao5473 2 ай бұрын
probably one of the most preventable accidents in aviation history
@bobbycigarillo
@bobbycigarillo 2 ай бұрын
How could it have been prevented? Sorry I’m a little slow
@Taylor-ls8kv
@Taylor-ls8kv 2 ай бұрын
I’m not in the aviation industry and have no knowledge of it but from what I gathered from the video. It sounds like the pilots did not know how to correct failures in the flight induced by the bad weather. The best analogy I can think of is think of someone in car, driving in bad weather and suddenly their car hydroplanes…and then to correct the car from hydroplaning they over correct by aggressively handling the steering wheel.
@sarahbasto6520
@sarahbasto6520 2 ай бұрын
@@Taylor-ls8kv thanks, it makes a lot more sense now, with a 'real life' example.
@Rubin250
@Rubin250 2 ай бұрын
This plane crashed because both pilots didn't think they we're in a stall when they were. Futher doomed by the fact the co pilot was was doing the exact opposite as he was supposed to and the captain didn't realize until it was far, far too late. Likely made possible because they had to fly IFR with no horizon. Where they likely had a lot of reliance on automated systems throughout their career. Also if I remember correctly, for the first minute or two of the stall, the co pilot was flying and the captain was out of his seat. Not a lot of wiggle room to save the day anyways
@laylahahmad6468
@laylahahmad6468 2 ай бұрын
@@Rubin250I don’t get why the pilots didn’t think they were not in stall when the alarm was literally calling out stall. And another thing don’t hundreds of plans fly through that ocean during storms weekly so how could this have been a complete unexpected surprise that the petot tubes or anything else malfunction for a few minutes. I think one expert said in some documentary that all the pilots had to do was literally leave everything alone and not touch the anything. Crazy sad story
@michaelkenny4124
@michaelkenny4124 Ай бұрын
Its very scary that a trained pilot could be so incompetent with flying a plane they are in charge of. To constantly pull back on the side stick is just unbelievable.
@abrasionthermals9172
@abrasionthermals9172 23 күн бұрын
Nepotism, guaranteed.
@gozzifilms
@gozzifilms 14 күн бұрын
Even as a someone who has no idea how to fly a plane I understand that pulling back when you’re stalling is a very bad idea
@sindoorbelic8036
@sindoorbelic8036 13 күн бұрын
Man I was furious to see what they did! Like three terified pigeons ! I have lots of flight sim experience to know that the most easy and most trained situation is stall recovery! They were at cruise level, they had 20 times to recover! I'm just furious and sad that such loss of life happened because of rookie mistake....
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 10 күн бұрын
You never know how people will react and respond to critical high stress situations.
@neonnoir9692
@neonnoir9692 10 күн бұрын
They panicked and had no business in the air.
@beckycoppa4806
@beckycoppa4806 2 ай бұрын
A lady from my college was on this flight. I did not know her but it was sad seeing her picture in the halls
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 2 ай бұрын
Very sad. Which college is that?
@Iamthewarner557
@Iamthewarner557 2 ай бұрын
We all have to die one day. So prepare for your next life. Worship only Allah. That's the straight path.
@Iamthewarner557
@Iamthewarner557 2 ай бұрын
@@bluecoffee8414 We all have to die one day. So prepare for your next life. Worship only Allah. That's the straight path.
@noahzero9380
@noahzero9380 2 ай бұрын
@@Iamthewarner557please keep your beliefs to yourself smh
@nataliemoore7508
@nataliemoore7508 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Iamthewarner557how on earth would you know? “Trust me bro, there is a sky daddy you have to spend eternity with, and he is the only true sky daddy”. Worship the sun, irrefutable creator of life, or worship death - who comes for all life. Allah is nowhere and nothing in life.
@mikehawk5492
@mikehawk5492 2 ай бұрын
Imagine sitting in a stall for that length of time and continuing to pitch up, it just boggles the mind how did he ever got a pilots licence.
@jpalmz1978
@jpalmz1978 2 ай бұрын
Blinded by stress (which is unusual as stress management is part of the selection and training process)
@lineakristensen1821
@lineakristensen1821 2 ай бұрын
Im not a pilot, but still I feel like his actions were so illogical 😢
@nedmerrill6228
@nedmerrill6228 2 ай бұрын
@@lineakristensen1821ok Spock.
@JCVM_VM
@JCVM_VM 2 ай бұрын
I just like planes, but is so logic to me the wings angle attack lift and stall concepts. Poor guy, how could he get so lost pulling that stick back the whole time. Really sad story. RIP all those poor souls 😔
@sparkle2843
@sparkle2843 2 ай бұрын
Apparently they don't train them to actually fly the plane anymore 🤯
@oluseyiawokoya9889
@oluseyiawokoya9889 2 ай бұрын
I honestly can't understand how the PIC can sleep, knowing the state of the weather condition. Even if he was feeling sleepy, the seriousness of the situation should have cleared his eyes immediately
@TaurusMoon-hu3pd
@TaurusMoon-hu3pd 2 ай бұрын
His gf was on the plane, and they had a layover in Rio the night before. He was very sleepy. This is one of those parts they leave out.
@XYZ_55
@XYZ_55 2 ай бұрын
The weather wasn't even a serious condition. Nothing was even wrong with how the plane was flying. The incorrect air speed reading caused the co-pilot to pull up on the controls for an extended period of time which caused the airplane to stall and drop out of the sky.
@pame8164
@pame8164 2 ай бұрын
​@@XYZ_55You're pushing all the blame onto Bonin when a flight is about teamwork. The co-pilot demonstrated anxiety about the convergence zone FOUR times and the idiot who was supposed to be in the lead ignored him. If he had stayed in the cockpit for another 15 minutes (estimated time to cross the zone) or respected the previous day's rest protocol for international flights, we wouldn't be watching this video now.
@dimitris90schild92
@dimitris90schild92 14 күн бұрын
​​@@pame8164agreed so much...idiot captain...!!!
@abigail1023
@abigail1023 2 ай бұрын
Just imagining the terror of the passengers all this time is horrific.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 2 ай бұрын
Should've shown that part in the video , it would've been more dramatic
@user-gw3lp3lb1o
@user-gw3lp3lb1o Ай бұрын
It must have been terrifyingly noisy for the passengers by the speed the plane was dropping....shame
@WarriorWomanWaWo
@WarriorWomanWaWo 2 ай бұрын
16:34 A moment of silence for the victims who lost their lives. A beautiful tribute, thank you. 🙏🏻
@JayDogZA
@JayDogZA 2 ай бұрын
I watch a lot of these things. Air crash docs. And AF447 is one of the most if not the most heartbreaking, needless loss of life. Bonin had brain freeze - like when you look for your phone with it in your hand, or look for your spectacles with them on your head. He couldn't see what he was doing by overlooking what he was doing - only realising when it was already too late. Truly heartbreaking
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Yes it's a truly heartbreaking story!
@heinzriemann3213
@heinzriemann3213 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, the flight director seemed to be telling him to pull up. I agree that he got locked into his preconceptions, but this was easier to happen than I thought before I knew the whole story.
@courtney7027
@courtney7027 2 ай бұрын
Great way to put it! So true
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 ай бұрын
This tragic accident affected me greatly. FO Bonin seems to have forgotten the basic principle of flying, that you need fast air flow over the wings in order for the plane to fly. If the plane is stalling it means not enough air is flowing over the wings, so you need to increase your speed by applying full thrust AND pitching the nose down by pushing the side stick fully forward. RIP to all the pax and crew.
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda 2 ай бұрын
An absolutely air headed take from someone who had not understood the facts and complexity surrounding this incident.
@gangsterHOTLINE
@gangsterHOTLINE 2 ай бұрын
This story is absolutely horrifying and tragic. RIP to all the souls on Flight 447. To the content creator, you absolutely nailed this account. Your storytelling, information gathering, format and respect for the lives lost is beautifully executed. You have talent good sir.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
❤️
@hf18455
@hf18455 2 ай бұрын
A former friends 11 year olds brother was on this flight alone. I think of him often
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
@jacknone1564
@jacknone1564 2 ай бұрын
Horseshit.
@MothraMissWorld
@MothraMissWorld 2 ай бұрын
Oh god reading this comment was a punch in the gut. May he rest easy :(
@elmalloc
@elmalloc 2 ай бұрын
Former friend? :(
@juliemcgugan1244
@juliemcgugan1244 2 ай бұрын
Friend in common. I also knew of the 11 y/o. He was on his way back to boarding school and was on his own, an unaccompanied minor. RIP, little guy.
@clarktrinst
@clarktrinst 2 ай бұрын
This one of the most comprehensive explanations of an aircraft disaster I've ever watched.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Omega1867
@Omega1867 2 ай бұрын
I remember hearing about this one. Ultimately the plane crashed because of iced over pitot tubes followed by Bonin constantly pulling back on his controls(the last time of which he did it without telling the others) and basically locked Robert out by doing so. Both lost complete situational awareness but Bonin basically caused the crash. That’s terrifying and I pray that all those poor people are at peace.
@angryrick2330
@angryrick2330 2 ай бұрын
I talked to a few of them and they are still pretty pissed...
@susivarga7303
@susivarga7303 2 ай бұрын
The mother of an 11y old victim who travelled with family friends committed suicide a year later. Your words are hollow.
@devonjurgensen5307
@devonjurgensen5307 2 ай бұрын
How dare you! Lol​@@susivarga7303
@angryrick2330
@angryrick2330 2 ай бұрын
@@susivarga7303learn to cope susi
@fredspofford
@fredspofford 2 ай бұрын
​@@susivarga7303Ok actually nobody cares about the victims then, already forgot what this video was about. Does that sound better? No? Then be glad that's not all you've heard. Nobody owes you condolences. It's genuine and heartfelt, far from hollow and that's a rare thing coming from most people. Be pissed at the 2nd officer who basically stalled the aircraft and never recovered it. The plane likely just dropped out of the sky and hit the ocean at no faster than terminal velocity. Totally avoidable.
@terichapman8293
@terichapman8293 2 ай бұрын
The lack of training and the incompetence of these pilots is staggering.
@ShawnS14
@ShawnS14 2 ай бұрын
Genuinely asking, what should they have done? It’s mentioned they were experienced pilots.
@CableReadyTechnoSIut
@CableReadyTechnoSIut 2 ай бұрын
@@ShawnS14the video did an absolutely horrible job actually explaining the technicals of what happened, but the co-pilot literally stalled the plane out of negligence and crashed. They had some iced over equipment which caused them to lose air speed reading (which they got back but then did not trust) and this caused growing panic for some unknown reason. The captain finally realized what was going on in the last 10-15 seconds, in the transcript you can hear him start yelling to stop pulling up. Shouldn’t have left those two fools in the cabin alone.
@TheMiniJunkie
@TheMiniJunkie 2 ай бұрын
Definitely sounds like incompetence was at work, but certainly a lack of training as they said in the report.
@CableReadyTechnoSIut
@CableReadyTechnoSIut 2 ай бұрын
@@TheMiniJunkie yes. The pilots likely never actually trained a stall in the cockpit of an actual plane, which is absurd imo.
@JordanisOverrated2
@JordanisOverrated2 2 ай бұрын
@@ShawnS14 Basically, they needed more training. The first officer also had very poor understanding of aerodynamics.
@melonycrumpet
@melonycrumpet 3 ай бұрын
This is terrifying to watch….
@sharinaross1865
@sharinaross1865 5 күн бұрын
Exactly. It's always dark and cloudy when retell these stories.
@Nadia-tims24
@Nadia-tims24 2 ай бұрын
I think I’ve seen every plane crash & listened to every cockpit recording available on KZbin, and I must say that only the suicide mission pilots infuriated me more than the pilots of this flight.
@elliepowell1317
@elliepowell1317 2 ай бұрын
Yes that one where that pilot took over and killed himself and the everyone on board too. He planned it. Sickening.
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 2 ай бұрын
@@elliepowell1317was this the one that happened in China?
@jenniferlisow2901
@jenniferlisow2901 2 ай бұрын
I think they are referencing the Germanwings crash in the Frennch Alps in 2015. ​The pilot locked the other pilot out when he went out to use the toilet & deliberately committed suicide & murdered everyone else by crashing into the moutain. @LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 2 ай бұрын
@@jenniferlisow2901 holy fuck
@SamM-gl9zc
@SamM-gl9zc 2 ай бұрын
To me, it's really just Bonin - once he finally says that he's had his stick back *the whole time,* the pilot almost immediately figured out the problem, but they were leaving 10,000 dropping like a rock by then, with no way to save it... I feel the same way as you - I actually got mad that Bonin is dead, so we can't ask him how a pilot doesn't realize that pulling the controls back for minutes on end in a stall is a bad idea. This is one reason I'm not a fan of the joystick on this plane - if there had been a yoke, it probably would have been noticeable that he was pulling back.
@silentpoem
@silentpoem 2 ай бұрын
Yes I have flight anxiety. Yes I watch these documentaries which accentuate my flight anxiety. No but this must have been absolutely and utterly terrifying. Praying for the victims' families 🙏🏻😔
@shaundavenport621
@shaundavenport621 Ай бұрын
I will never set foot on a plane.My country has enough beauty and history for me!😊
@rachelar
@rachelar 20 күн бұрын
Avoid Air France as apparently it has this "culture " of lax attitude amongst the crew according to some
@richlewis1879
@richlewis1879 2 ай бұрын
When you said into the unknown it gave me chills. Imagine going down at night. Not knowing when or what you'll hit. OMG
@h1ghm4int3n4nc3
@h1ghm4int3n4nc3 2 ай бұрын
"Let's prioritize learning from others to ensure safer skies for everyone" is probably one of the best quotes I've heard in a very long time. Thank you for this video, I'm looking forward to watching more of your channel. :)
@sindoorbelic8036
@sindoorbelic8036 13 күн бұрын
This was such a rookie mistake that every most basic training prepares you for that scenario first... there is just no excuse for what they did ! Three frightened pigeons, thats what they were!
@h1ghm4int3n4nc3
@h1ghm4int3n4nc3 13 күн бұрын
@@sindoorbelic8036 Great job focusing on the negative that had nothing to do with my comment, buddy! I never said anything about the situation itself, just a specific quote regarding it.
@sindoorbelic8036
@sindoorbelic8036 13 күн бұрын
@@h1ghm4int3n4nc3 Sorry I was really pissed because so many pilots have made this stupid mistake that they obviously didn't learn anything from others....
@Raymondcurryjr
@Raymondcurryjr 2 ай бұрын
The passengers. Wow the courage they had to muster up. Falling for over 3 minutes in a full plane that has lost control. Jesus
@aaront2020
@aaront2020 2 ай бұрын
Horrible way to die. They had to know the flight was doomed.
@-ari
@-ari 2 ай бұрын
The body only feels it's falling when there's acceleration variation. So, after they reached maximum acceleration, they just kept picking up speed, but probably didn't notice the fall. I think they were warned of turbulence and probably most were asleep.
@mariannepfly1906
@mariannepfly1906 2 ай бұрын
These are the bits I find most interesting, hoping nobody knew what was happening. Would the stewardesses know? Why didn’t the captain come to the cockpit?
@liquid7105
@liquid7105 2 ай бұрын
it must have been terrible turbulence, no way people were sleeping and if they did, they certainly woke up@@-ari
@-ari
@-ari 2 ай бұрын
@@liquid7105 indeed, my bad
@jurgenkuhlmann9194
@jurgenkuhlmann9194 2 ай бұрын
From 38.000 feet to sea level in 3 1/2 minutes? That's shocking indeed!
@sunnybright8206
@sunnybright8206 5 күн бұрын
3.5 minutes is long af
@camillabrifjord727
@camillabrifjord727 2 ай бұрын
They couldn’t even fly the plane for one minute without autopilot in alternate law. Takes just one min for the pitotubes to clear. Other pilots have had the same scenario and they could fly without reliable airspeed for one minute. Thank you for the excellent video!
@CompletelyRandomVideos
@CompletelyRandomVideos 6 күн бұрын
Literally do no nothing and they are fine. It’s crazy that if there was no pilot for that 10 min period, they would have been fine. Crazy
@reidx512
@reidx512 3 ай бұрын
SO awesome you took time to honor those souls who sadly perished. Finally a great space to listen and learn... Thank you!
@levnad4086
@levnad4086 2 ай бұрын
One Turkish lady died on this plane crash after 2 years they found her body and coincidentally i was passing by a mosque in İstanbul and i saw her funeral her name was Fatma ceren necipoğlu. İ never forget this coincidende since 12 years.
@HaYlEeXx19
@HaYlEeXx19 2 ай бұрын
2 years in the water?
@levnad4086
@levnad4086 2 ай бұрын
İ think more than 2 years.
@user-ux9eb1jx3k
@user-ux9eb1jx3k 2 ай бұрын
2 years in the water, it’s really tragic 😢
@Zelielz1
@Zelielz1 Ай бұрын
2 years in the water? You become bones after that much
@levnad4086
@levnad4086 Ай бұрын
No, cold water preserve you, i was told there was little bit of body parts in the coffen
@funjunk2835
@funjunk2835 2 ай бұрын
I'm a flight sim aviator and I'm shocked at how you could stall at that altitude and not be able to recover. Attempting to put on speedbrakes seems deeply incompetent. It was clear from the recreation video the aircraft was stalling, not overspeeding. When in doubt, push the nose down, especially if you are at high altitude and worried about a stall.
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 2 ай бұрын
Bonin, the co pilot F***** up big time, because he stupidly kept pulling the stick back when they were stalling. This guy had no business being a pilot.
@funjunk2835
@funjunk2835 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinmalone3210 Yeah guess the guy wasn't trained properly on physics or something.
@roiq5263
@roiq5263 2 ай бұрын
Looks like he was to scared to be a pilot.
@thomaspulsiver798
@thomaspulsiver798 2 ай бұрын
The pilots crashing the plane wouldn’t have been possible if it was Boeing
@miawallace2306
@miawallace2306 2 ай бұрын
@@thomaspulsiver798 This was 100% pilot error. It has nothing to do with the make of the metal.
@MarcOHagan-sb8xy
@MarcOHagan-sb8xy 2 ай бұрын
My late father's work colleague was on this flight. May they all RIP.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
❤️
@theplatinumtakeoff6215
@theplatinumtakeoff6215 Ай бұрын
My friends sisters best friends former roommate was on this plane.
@giacomobongrazio
@giacomobongrazio 2 ай бұрын
I had an acquaintance on that flight, I feel so sorry, thank you for this.
@ImNotHere222
@ImNotHere222 2 ай бұрын
This is one heck of an infamous accident. It's incredibly frustrating, but I try to remember that the flight deck is not an easy place to be, especially under great stress. Sad nonetheless. Thanks for sharing.
@GrimFelArt
@GrimFelArt 2 ай бұрын
This, I see a lot of comments putting blame and pointing fingers. But we're all human and sometimes our brains just...fail. Under stress we can go into a panic and freeze or otherwise lose all sense of direction and logic, in spite of any training or intervention. I try to remember the human part in this, Bonin didn't act out of ignorance, stubbornness or malice, he was a man whose brain just failed him. Already the cockpit of an aircraft is a high-pressure environment and when all those alarms go haywire I can't imagine the fear and stress that could cause, sometimes a person can't pull their cognizance back from that. Unfortunately this is just a case of stress causing needless tragedy
@TheWPhilosopher
@TheWPhilosopher Ай бұрын
​@@GrimFelArtexactly this. Plus there was multiple things to focus on plus the plane switched into Alt mode and iirc it wasn't an obvious notification so the craft to their knowledge was behaving oddly. Therefore with the on off stall warnings the Brain latches on to fixating in one problem in this case the rolls until it became too late.
@SS-cd6ie
@SS-cd6ie 9 күн бұрын
​@@GrimFelArtit wasn't ignorance or malice but it was gross incompetence. If one doesn't know how to do a job, or if one has anxiety or stress, and do everyone a favor and don't do it. Some people just want money or Prestige and that's selfish. That's like saying we should forgive a cop if he's stressed out and suddenly shoot someone. You don't take jobs if you don't have a high stress tolerance. Leave those jobs to people who can handle it. This is murder through gross incompetence and negligence.
@WideHarryCock
@WideHarryCock 6 күн бұрын
@@SS-cd6iethe best police officers in the world sometimes fold under certain pressures…like the comment above you said “we’re all human” the difference between a cop and a pilot is a cop isn’t responsible for 200 people on an airliner…you act like Pilots are robots who are wired together in a lab or something smh pilots make errors just like every other job…there jobs are just more deadly
@lisaanderson7924
@lisaanderson7924 2 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever experienced severe turbulence on a plane once, being an anxiety prone passenger definitely wasn’t helpful here. My ex husband & I were flying on the 2nd leg of our trip from SeaTac & our plane was quite small. We were headed to Bellingham, WA to see my ex’s father one last time as my father in law was terminally ill. This was in November & we were unaware of the storm severity in that area of WA state. We entered a storm with wind gusts of about 60mph, heavy rain & occasional lightning. The plane, a small aircraft which held maybe 40? people & was able to land more easily at the airport in or near Bellingham WA, a small airport consisting of a few “temporary” type buildings similar to some school buildings. The plane was shaking, had side to side rolls and would occasionally buck up & down. I didn’t take enough Valium to help with my fear of flying so I was crying & had dug my nails into the ex’s leg, not even realizing I was doing it. The ex, who had never flown before, took quite a bit of his own prescription of Valium & was completely unafraid. When the plane landed I heard passengers asking who was crying but I didn’t fess up lol! It turns out an off duty flight attendant was crying too, THATS never a good sign…yikes!
@lordrodneyfisher
@lordrodneyfisher 7 күн бұрын
The moment of silence Is such a nice touch. Very professional, considerate and educational.
@TheGeekyBanana
@TheGeekyBanana 26 күн бұрын
This is my worst nightmare and I’ve been having it since I was a child. Me being on a plane and it crashing into the ocean, no one can get out and we just watch the cabin fill with water. I hate that nightmare so damn much that I avoid planes entirely
@SS-cd6ie
@SS-cd6ie 9 күн бұрын
Me 2. Sure I'll miss vacations and not seeing the beauty of the world, but I only have one life and I've decided I'm not going to go on planes
@Jamie-bg3zb
@Jamie-bg3zb 7 күн бұрын
The impact at that speed you wouldn’t feel a thing once it hit the water it’s the way down that would be terrifying
@MartysWhiteSuit
@MartysWhiteSuit 3 ай бұрын
Seems a lot of chaos on the flight deck with the engineer and the first officer doing opposing things. Very interesting video and it's a subject that fascinates.
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 ай бұрын
Both were FOs. The A330 doesn't have engineers.
@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 2 ай бұрын
I'm not pilot but even I know not to keep pulling up when in a stall. Wasn't that the same guy who kept trying to control the aircraft when he was meant to have handed over though? Sounds like he went into a complete panic.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 2 ай бұрын
Or he wanted to do his way . Pride . Or wanted to commit suicide
@crimeinvest6523
@crimeinvest6523 28 күн бұрын
He believed he was going to fast. Yes you can stall when flying to fast. Also he did not know about the alternate law
@yugishorts
@yugishorts 20 күн бұрын
Ya bro I bet you would done better then the pilots with more than a thousand hours 🤦🏽‍♂️
@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 20 күн бұрын
@@yugishorts Not much of a reader are you.
@yugishorts
@yugishorts 20 күн бұрын
@@ruk2023-- good one 👏
@elanthys
@elanthys 2 ай бұрын
I watch and read about a lot of aviation accidents, and AF447 to this day is the most bone-chilling of all in my mind. Reading the transcript from the CVR is terrifying, the crew lost all situational awareness and was completely overwhelmed by all the contradictory alarms and warnings, to the point of paralysis. And yet, they knew: _"On va taper"_ It's utterly tragic.
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 ай бұрын
This tragic accident affected me greatly. FO Bonin seems to have forgotten the basic principle of flying, that you need fast air flow over the wings in order for the plane to fly. If the plane is stalling it means not enough air is flowing over the wings, so you need to increase your speed by applying full thrust AND pitching the nose down by pushing the side stick fully forward. RIP to all the pax and crew.
@andrewdinns1746
@andrewdinns1746 2 ай бұрын
No it wasn't the crew. It was one incompetent man.
@elanthys
@elanthys 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewdinns1746 It was the crew, bad CRM, lack of training and faulty Pitot probes. Does Bonin bear more fault than his fellow crew members? In great part arguably yes he does. But stop pinning it solely on him. The captain did not manage the crisis properly either. The instruments sent confusing and seemingly contradictory alerts. A crash is the result of a combination of factors, not just a single one.
@sew_gal7340
@sew_gal7340 2 ай бұрын
@@elanthysIt technically is one single person at fault, because even if all factors were the same minus Bonin it would have been corrected and the plain wouldnt have crashed. People aren't arguing that the situation itself wasnt flawed, they are saying if bonin didnt lose his cool it would have been fine.
@elanthys
@elanthys 2 ай бұрын
@@sew_gal7340 You're proving my point. Change any single factor and the accident wouldn't happen. If Bonin hadn't reacted like he did, if the captain had grasped the situation better, if the pitot tube hadn't frozen, you can go on with hypotheticals all day long, ALL THESE FACTORS COMBINED caused the crash. I will not be discussing this further this is so obvious.
@khall187
@khall187 2 ай бұрын
In a saturated KZbin genre, I really like the style of this channel.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! :) I appreciate your comment!
@toothlessseer3153
@toothlessseer3153 Ай бұрын
1 - The pilot goes for a nap just before the plane enters a thunderstorm 2 - The co-pilot does everything possible to crash the plane _Amazing that the formal investigation did not clearly point that out. OR Air France acknowledging its pilots being the main cause of the crash_ 😥
@MexixoDro223
@MexixoDro223 7 күн бұрын
Why would they do that? They clearly won’t because they know it’ll affect their own business
@CompletelyRandomVideos
@CompletelyRandomVideos 6 күн бұрын
I still think it was intentional. Noseup for 5 min is not called for in any flying situation. It defies all logic & he ignored several requests to F off but he kept taking over control. It was bizarre
@camelliainzurich1262
@camelliainzurich1262 3 күн бұрын
@@CompletelyRandomVideos I agree. It was done on purpose. Someone Bonin I think, was doing the opposite commands that the others were telling him.
@Marialqs
@Marialqs 29 күн бұрын
I've been swimming in the Atlantic my entire life and it's harsh, unpredictable and dangerous. I can't even imagine how horrific it must have been.
@Scribe127
@Scribe127 2 ай бұрын
Regardless of the auto-pilot disconnect, and potential lack of training, one of the most basic situations that any pilot MUST understand how to manage is a stall. The attitude indicator was functioning properly and indicated a stall, and yet the PF made the exact opposite inputs than any training will dictate that you should make - namely he pulled the nose up, instead of pointing it down which would have abated the stall almost immediately. There simply is no excuse for this to happen. It is mind-boggling that a crew of a major airline, in an advanced aircraft that is functioning properly, could allow this to happen. Lack of CRM, poor airmanship was the real cause of this accident. The number one rule in aviation is "Fly the Aircraft," and they did not do that.
@EinFritzMitX
@EinFritzMitX 2 ай бұрын
This! I already replied to another comment that Bonin's behaviour is absolutely baffling to me. Everyone who ever flew a decently made flight simulator (even if it's only on a desktop PC) knows that constantly pulling up is going to stall a plane. It's basically one of the first things you automatically figure out when you're new to flight simulations.
@jessi1345
@jessi1345 2 ай бұрын
@@EinFritzMitX Maybe he did it on purpose
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 2 ай бұрын
@@jessi1345 they have flight record data with his statements and it does not sound like he was doing it on purpose.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 2 ай бұрын
Once they finally called the captain in from his rest period, he diagnosed the problem within seconds, but sadly they had waited too long, and it was too late. As for the other 2 pilots, no matter how much training and simulator time with accident scenarios and psyc evals, u never know, how they will react in an emergency, until theyre in it. The senior FO made 1 real mistake, he didnt clearly state "my aircraft", but except for the actions of Bonin, he would highly likely have managed the emergency just fine. Bonin however turned out to be 1 of the ppl, who may score high in training, but in a real emergency their brain pretty much shut down, and they forget everything and usually do most or all things wrong. I once worked with such a person, thankfully not in a job with lives at stake, but he was good at his job, always seemed competent and well educated, but the 1 time, where things suddenly crashed in on us, he couldnt handle the stress, and he became another obstacle. Unfortunately, he also turned out to be 1 of the ppl, who cant admit, they f'd up, so afterwards he was extremely defensive, even aggressive, in his defense of, how he certainly did everything right. Lets just say, he didnt work there much longer. But until that emergency, there were no signs of any of that. Personally, Ive been in crunch situations a few times, and Im 1 of the lucky 1s, where everything just seems to narrow in and allow me to focus and do, what needs doing, but afterwards Im a wreck, shaking all over with the adrenalin shock. That scared me a bit the first time, but once I knew, how I react in an emergency, I could handle. We're all different, and its easy to say, how we would react in an emergency, but the truth is, we never know, until we try it. Sadly, Bonin did not react well.
@captain7956
@captain7956 2 ай бұрын
@@EinFritzMitXI read the ice build up in the pitot tubes caused false readings and depicted the aircraft loosing altitude hence why he was pulling back on the side stick?
@aprilmallasee9995
@aprilmallasee9995 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely terrifying! I watch countless aviation videos and this one definitely had me feeling fear at a high level😩 I cannot imagine what they went through in those short moments before meeting their demise
@caseybanter5751
@caseybanter5751 2 ай бұрын
They recovered the BlackBox just 5 weeks after finding the plane?? It was 4,000 meters (2.5 miles) deep! Thats scary deep.
@GhostPlaysCodm
@GhostPlaysCodm Ай бұрын
As soon as you find parts and bodies you go there with a sub and well that’s it. Very serious stuff so there’s not time for coffee
@caseybanter5751
@caseybanter5751 Ай бұрын
@GhostPlaysCodm yeah thats crazy. Especially considering they have to recover the box from mangled wreckage. Plus, at those depths. That's a big mission! If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that was impossible to do.
@l.n963
@l.n963 Ай бұрын
I thought they searched for 2 years? I remember they found it in 2011
@hanooneeme8947
@hanooneeme8947 Ай бұрын
2 years after
@jacquelinehunt7794
@jacquelinehunt7794 29 күн бұрын
Like titanic
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 2 ай бұрын
tbh I can see how the crew was confused. Flying through a storm, sensors freezing up, not knowing which displays or audible warnings are accurate, no visual cues, and a very short time to correct easy to make mistakes. It's easy in hindsight to understand their faulty decisions but it all happened in 2-3 minutes before the plane was doomed.
@Anngus_
@Anngus_ Ай бұрын
I can sort of see that, especially the captain coming back and being overloaded with all these alerts and nobody briefing him, but initially - that FO should never have had control if he can’t hand fly for 60 seconds, that’s insane. 16 degrees AoA for seemingly no reason at the start is just nuts. Did that guy even look at his ADI? And all that excessive roll, I was taught within 10 hours to stop over controlling. A commercial pilot shouldn’t be experiencing pilot induced turbulence
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 Ай бұрын
@@Anngus_ Yes you're right he did a very poor job I'm sure he'd never been put in such a difficult situation before and, up to then, been relying more on the automation of the aircraft instead of manually flying the aircraft. Even the most seasoned of pilots may get into a tough situation and make decisions where you wonder how he got all those thousands of flying hours without crashing. THere's a video on YT where an F-15 pilot has an in flight emergency, a fire in the engine, the strict rules were to immediately dump the aircraft and eject but he panicked and flew to the closest air base, landing way too fast, blowing out the tires and finally right before he runs out of runway he ejects and never flew again. Well, he was one of the most experienced fighter pilots in the world with over 4,000 flying hours in the F-15. That's 4,000 hours in an advanced fighter jet that cost about $12,000 an hour to maintain. You can do the math.
@Jamie-bg3zb
@Jamie-bg3zb 7 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly right, everyone is a great pilot watching KZbin on the ground haha
@PabloGonzalez-hv3td
@PabloGonzalez-hv3td 6 күн бұрын
Their situation called for what's referred to as a "known pitch and power" response. Meaning a known setting that you know is conducive to safe flight. They panicked and froze.
@TheRjb2010
@TheRjb2010 2 ай бұрын
May the passengers and crew rest in peace.
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 ай бұрын
This tragic accident affected me greatly. FO Bonin seems to have forgotten the basic principle of flying, that you need fast air flow over the wings in order for the plane to fly. If the plane is stalling it means not enough air is flowing over the wings, so you need to increase your speed by applying full thrust AND pitching the nose down by pushing the side stick fully forward. RIP to all the pax and crew.
@laylahahmad6468
@laylahahmad6468 2 ай бұрын
Yea out of all the airplane disasters documentaries I’ve watched I feel the most anxiety from this one it’s like I can feel those panic from the confusion and knowing the plane is going down especially when one of the pilots says “this can’t be true”. Everyone is in disbelief from the actions of FO Bonin but i kinda feel bad for him. I think one explanation might be that he panicked the way we would if we’re about to crash into wall quickly press the brakes too hard
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 ай бұрын
@@laylahahmad6468 "if we’re about to crash into wall quickly press the brakes too hard" But in his case he pressed the accelerator too hard.
@cambed71
@cambed71 Ай бұрын
@@Robert_N I don't know about that. There is basically only one thing you can hit when in a plane and that is the ground and sea so him pulling the nose up is like him trying to avoid that ie putting on the brakes. But in the case of flying it does the opposite. Although putting the nose down would be accelerating to the ground which is why he was doing the nose up
@greg77389
@greg77389 Күн бұрын
Bonin was green and kept trusting the airspeed indicator over the stall warning 🤦‍♂️
@jazzymurray2829
@jazzymurray2829 2 ай бұрын
Those people must’ve been so terrified, may God continue to put a blanket of comfort over their love ones I may they rest in peace❤
@kaushikghosh4703
@kaushikghosh4703 2 ай бұрын
A particular section of the video dedicated to the ones who lost their lives... First time seeing an youtuber with such a high level of ethics...❤❤
@eFullStack
@eFullStack 2 ай бұрын
Some opportunities, such as obtaining a commercial pilot license, should not be accessible to everyone. It is evident that there are one or two pilots who are too incompetent to operate an aircraft full of passengers. They are so inept that they even forget the basic rules.
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 2 ай бұрын
Judging everyone based on hindsight
@eFullStack
@eFullStack 2 ай бұрын
@@christerry1773 Yes, we refer to it as a 'reference'
@Anngus_
@Anngus_ Ай бұрын
@@christerry1773 to be fair a pilot controlling an Airliner should be able to hand fly a plane for 60 seconds without entering a stall which he then aggravates and sustains for 38000 feet…
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 Ай бұрын
@@Anngus_ agreed but take into Account the situation here. With no warning loosing all vital instruments, not knowing what was valid. Traveling 500 mph through turbulence at night(total darkness) Then having a stall alarm that would stop chiming when the stick was pulled all the way. And the flight director indicating to pull up.
@liquid7105
@liquid7105 2 ай бұрын
This awful tragedy i will never forget, so many pilots are useless and should never be in control of a plane, its the most scary thing about flying. Sitting in a plane with a bad pilot
@barbarawilcox182
@barbarawilcox182 Ай бұрын
Can they do more to keep the pitot tubes from freezing? Nothing about AF447's altitude or weather was that exceptional.
@user-md6os4nq1b
@user-md6os4nq1b 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Really in depth look into this accident in only 21 minutes! Amazing. You deserves more subs.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@sarajanesanders4129
@sarajanesanders4129 2 ай бұрын
​@@AviationaccidentsI agree. I'm going to subscribe now. Wow! This is a (Respectful) interesting channel.😊
@jacobh1867
@jacobh1867 2 ай бұрын
And after reading the official report, the Captain basically did nothing when he was called back to the cockpit. He just sat in the back not doing much of anything except watch it all unfold when his experience was needed first-hand. Ridiculous.
@Sammy_08648
@Sammy_08648 2 ай бұрын
Why do you think he just sat there?
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 Ай бұрын
He couldn't figure out what was wrong either, but ìf he would've been sharp, he would've told Robert to vacate the Capt seat, told him to go to the FO seat, and kick Bonin out of his seat.
@jameslee1062
@jameslee1062 Ай бұрын
@@kevinmalone3210I’ve thought the same too. He should have TAKEN CONTROL, especially after observing Bonin pulling back on his stick. He should have neutralized the situational errors or AT LEAST TRIED in this way. Panic ruled.
@rachelar
@rachelar 20 күн бұрын
He hadn't slept the night before, so he wasnt sharp at all. Just having l'amour with his sexy Brazilian Gf. Typical hedonist of the apparent culture in Air France said a report. Sad
@rachelar
@rachelar 20 күн бұрын
​@@Sammy_08648he hasn't slept
@malteharms1798
@malteharms1798 2 ай бұрын
I just dont understand how trained pilots simply fail to recover from a stall. They just go full panic mode, nose up, brain off?
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 2 ай бұрын
Evidently they didn't know they were in a stall.
@DrachHeinz
@DrachHeinz 2 ай бұрын
I think some sympathy for the pilot and FO's is deserved... It must have been incredibly disorienting to be flying into one of the more notorious and remote oceanic stretches of severe weather with icing, complicated by an indicated airspeed mismatch -- and then suddenly the flight computer dumps them to alternative law 2. I can't imagine the fear when your avionics start throwing errors and you're questioning even the basics, knowing you have hundreds of souls depending on you just behind the cockpit door. Flying in the dark without a reliable airspeed indicator, no functioning stall warning you can trust, and now you're doubting the other avionics on your cluster... that would be terrifying (I'd imagine, I'm not a pilot). I agree - It took them way too long to arrive at the diagnosis of a stalled condition - but you can tell from the cockpit voice recorder that they weren't sure if they were stalled or not, and/or overspeeding the airframe or not, and I guess the prospect of nose down to re-coordinate the airflow over the wings scared them, or didn't occur to them in time while they still had 30k of air between them and the ocean. The FO had the stick pulled back for nearly the entire time. The same FO that kept inputting dual inputs (and frankly, inputted the first offending nose up input for no reason) despite multiple requests to clear the inputs and give control to the left seat showed extremely poor judgment. It seems easy to diagnose from here, they're giving full power with a nose up attitude - but they are not climbing. What else could it be but a stall? Control surface icing? Some esoteric flight computer bug? But overall, I agree with you and the video - ultimately the lack of familiarity with emergency preparedness procedures, and inability to diagnose and troubleshoot in the moment is what lead to the failure to recover from the stall, and tragically, the loss of so many lives.
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 2 ай бұрын
@@DrachHeinz Maybe it's like if you are swimming and get caught in a rip tide, the worst thing to do is panic.
@mayhem5235
@mayhem5235 2 ай бұрын
​@@DrachHeinzNo sympathy for the dumbass that still had the stick pulled back when they hit the water. He killed all those innocent people. F him.
@ladirectorguy
@ladirectorguy 2 ай бұрын
Because of Bonin’s unshared decision to keep the nose up and in the stall, they were focusing on other areas to solve the problem and keep the plane flying. It almost seems suicidal in truth. By the time the Captain was informed of Bonin’s choice, they just couldn’t recover.
@phantomphan873
@phantomphan873 2 ай бұрын
I want to make it clear; the plane basically broke up and exploded upon impact with the water. It did not sink in one piece
@sagittariusbeauty111
@sagittariusbeauty111 Ай бұрын
Thank you, I was confused on that part.
@manugamer9984
@manugamer9984 2 ай бұрын
I was 9 years old at the time, and I remember the media frenzy... it’s one of my earliest memories of this kind.
@madameblackimusprime
@madameblackimusprime 2 ай бұрын
It sounds like Bonin needed a good slap. Dual imput was the most frustrating thing to hear.
@ilm-def8920
@ilm-def8920 2 ай бұрын
Two of my family are Airbus Captains/Check Airmen. After this accident (negligence), their companies ran every one of their pilots through scenarios like this and procedures to recover. The conclusion was that this crew crashed a flyable aircraft due to breakdown in cockpit resource management and communication. This has happened all too many times in the past.
@Red-Magic
@Red-Magic 18 күн бұрын
Its kind of appalling how such a mistake that is easily identifiable and prevented, even occured. If you are having poor roll and yaw control, are nose-high and/or attempting and failing to to go nose-high, all while dropping altitude, it is very blatantly apparent, excluding potential for some sort of mechanical failure, that the aircraft is in a stall. And the aircraft itself already had its stall indicators triggered, which should have alarmed the pilots. Recovery should've been automatic to the pilots. Stick and throttle forwards to nose down and increase airspeed and regain control. They had so much time and altitude to perform this recovery. And when one of them finally DID attempt, the 1st officer (who had mostly got the aircraft into this situation in the first place) doesn't release the controls despite saying so. It's a shame that somehow this was even allowed to have happened. Training should have made such a simple mistake very simple and fast to correct, but all the textbook WRONG (particularly holding the stick back for nearly the entire descent) answers were used. Thats the most depressing part. How something very simply recognized, countered, and prevented, with all the information at their disposal...was not on any of those counts, resulting in this awful loss of life.
@baggiesrule22
@baggiesrule22 Ай бұрын
This channel does a really good job of animating the events whilst also inducing a huge amount of anxiety! Great job
@Sarah-ty5ev
@Sarah-ty5ev 2 ай бұрын
I can tell you put a lot of effort into your videos. Instantly subscribed! This was a very thorough explanation
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Sarah!
@Pratikchobhe
@Pratikchobhe 2 ай бұрын
Your Production Quality is Insane ❤
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate it!
@mariannepfly1906
@mariannepfly1906 2 ай бұрын
New subscriber here :)
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Hi! @@mariannepfly1906
@samappleby60
@samappleby60 2 ай бұрын
Do you actually know what insane means, dude?
@stenaldomehilli8809
@stenaldomehilli8809 3 ай бұрын
Truly remarkable what you're doing! It's a joy to watch your videos... keep it up!
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 💪🏼
@diddlethepoodle4812
@diddlethepoodle4812 2 ай бұрын
This is a case where to much technology and counting on it to fix itself is dangerous. All these system malfunctions and not being able to just understand what caused the issue is dangerous. Complacency and counting on technology is a fatal error. The easier life gets for people the harder it is for someone to cope with difficult situations.
@sew_gal7340
@sew_gal7340 2 ай бұрын
It goes to show that over reliance on AI and technology can be dangerous, technology cannot replace human skill and intuition and we are not in a place yet to substitute it for human ingenuity. Under-training crew thinking AI will just cover the gaps is dangerous!
@yitaowang8547
@yitaowang8547 2 ай бұрын
Same thing could be said with the newest AI revolution, too. Well summarized
@xtnuser5338
@xtnuser5338 2 ай бұрын
A mechanical link between the two control sticks, such that they could not be operated in different directions, might have made a big difference here. What is Airbus' control logic outputting when it is given conflicting inputs? Obviously it's yelling, "dual control" out loud in the cockpit, but what control output is it commanding. Is it just deciding to command nothing? Is it deciding to blend the conflicting inputs? Is it somehow selecting one input over the other, and if so how is the priority determined? Seems like a pretty dumb solution to figure all that out, when the solution to just have the two sticks linked together exists. There should almost never be a condition under which you command a roll or pitch change and the plane doesn't try to do what you asked.
@Politik-mit-Kopf
@Politik-mit-Kopf 13 күн бұрын
Half a year after this flight I flew this route to South America and I was absolutely anxious. At night over water is just scary
@Gardentrellis
@Gardentrellis 2 ай бұрын
I worked on jumbo jets, all programs at the Everett Boeing plant for 8 years, and I’ve only been on one flight in my entire life in the early 2000’s on a middle school trip to New York. And I don’t think I’ll ever go on one again. I have frequent nightmares of being on a flight and it losing control.
@headcreeps2138
@headcreeps2138 7 күн бұрын
Don't get in a car either then as that's more dangerous 🙄 lots of incompetent drivers out there.
@journeygirl4ever
@journeygirl4ever 2 күн бұрын
Me too! Terrible nightmares! If I have to fly, I sit in utter internal terror the whole time. I always pray to God to not let me die in a plane crash. Even though I trust God and know I would be with him, hearing the terror of others would still cause me great pain in my final moments if this were to happen. I try not to fly if possible, but there are times I have to and I do not enjoy a single second of it! Rip to these precious people who lost their lives! 😢
@sred5856
@sred5856 2 ай бұрын
The video quality and commentary is exemplary. I wish you had given the conclusion that this was truly pilot error as flying a plane level without auto pilot is a basic requirement which one pilot decided to ignore.
@macman975
@macman975 2 ай бұрын
I've watched many Air Tragedies and this is the only one I've dreamed of. Something hits different about this one.
@poetrygirl86
@poetrygirl86 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, I feel the same way. I was 23 when it happened and had an important exam the next day. Thankfully the exam went well, though my thoughts definitely were elsewhere.
@heinzriemann3213
@heinzriemann3213 2 ай бұрын
Probably the most haunting air crash ever.
@skiddycelery2382
@skiddycelery2382 2 ай бұрын
Look up Helios flight 552… way more haunting
@biad4440
@biad4440 2 ай бұрын
Look for gol flight 1907
@arcadeshift5071
@arcadeshift5071 Ай бұрын
JAL 123
@flaviusmocanu7641
@flaviusmocanu7641 2 ай бұрын
Af447 is somehow more horrifying than mh370
@ZaraHaasan
@ZaraHaasan Ай бұрын
Yes you’re right after pilot realized the crash and nothing he can do
@sharmilasoomair568
@sharmilasoomair568 2 ай бұрын
This channel is awesome. The dual imput should tell the pilots that something is not right. This crash was very sad but preventable. One of the copilot should have gone to the captain and wake him up. RIP to everyone who lost their lives.
@Shay416
@Shay416 2 ай бұрын
Holy crap, the pilot wasn't up????? Just started the video😢
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617 2 ай бұрын
No matter how many times I read,watch or hear about this disaster it still blows my mind how elementary the issue was and much like American 587 its another great example of how too much of anything is bad..even a solution because if u use it too much you may find yourself and your solution as the reason whatever was troubling to begin with, continues to trouble you and possibly trouble you worse than it was originally...Bonin, god man I always stop short of judging him cuz i only judge scum and i know almost certainly that he didnt do this on purpose but damn man so many lives lost over something that shouldnt even trouble pilots with their level of experience..it always trips me out to think of the people on that flight that fell asleep expecting to wake to the day and France only to never wake again...thank u as always for these videos man i really do appreciate every one of em
@bardlover6
@bardlover6 2 ай бұрын
I doubt with as rough as the flight was everyone stayed asleep but I hope they did
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617
@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617 2 ай бұрын
@@bardlover6 Yea but that's one of the areas I'm still kinda confused on..cuz I've seen and read reports from aviation experts saying it was pandemonium when they were falling and then others who think it was stable enough to where many didn't know what was coming..from what I know and the orientation and rate of Descent I'd think their descent actually wasn't that rough, those awake and especially frequent flyers, specifically on that route would've probably noticed the sound of the air moving over the plane was abnormal but I don't think they knew what it meant or had enough time to process it as something serious before the plane crashed so I think some were asleep and those awake most of them I don't think even noticed an abnormality but maybe a few knew what was happening and I can't imagine what it was like for them
@sred5856
@sred5856 2 ай бұрын
@@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617 How a bone head pilot was allowed to even be in that important seat was the root cause.
@rachelar
@rachelar 20 күн бұрын
​@@sred5856the senior pilot had been playing all night so just pulled rank and went to sleep
@mattm597
@mattm597 2 ай бұрын
In a nutshell, the crew knew how to turn on and turn off computers, but they did not know how to fly the plane. Technology is a wonderful thing, except when it becomes so advanced pilots forget how to do their job (or never learn in the first place).
@Brick-so1ig
@Brick-so1ig 15 күн бұрын
Can Not Imagine The Surreal Out of Body Experience Level of Fear and Adrenaline That Runs Through Every Atom of Your Mind and Body in This Situation as You Wait to Slam into Middle of Ocean in Pitch Dark Night Knowing You are About to Instantly Die
@GeorgeMcCauley
@GeorgeMcCauley 2 ай бұрын
This channel is amazing! Thankyou for the level of detail you went into for this. I have subscribed! 👏🏻
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks George!
@PixieGreatorex
@PixieGreatorex 2 ай бұрын
Best video of this type I’ve watched! You actually understand the questions your audience has!
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DaDarknessXIII
@DaDarknessXIII 3 күн бұрын
May those lost souls find peace. I think the section to pay tribute to the lives lost should be a standard for all documentary videos on KZbin like this.
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 3 күн бұрын
these videos are so well-made! the animation really brings these stories to life and the narration is great. were any of the flight protocol recommendations implemented? its scary to think something like this may possibly happen again
@wasted2106
@wasted2106 3 ай бұрын
love your content. proud to have discovered you so early
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@JJJJ-gl2uf
@JJJJ-gl2uf 2 ай бұрын
Just discovered this channel today. This video was well done, I do hope you make more of them.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Will do! Thanks! ❤️
@cwrooney397
@cwrooney397 Ай бұрын
Great quality video that’s narrated in the right tone and not forced like many other videos. My new favorite channel!
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@oluseyiawokoya9889
@oluseyiawokoya9889 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing a fantastic job. Very clear, audible narrattion. And yes I have liked and subscribed 🎉😊❤
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Welcome! Thanks! :)
@Micker375
@Micker375 2 ай бұрын
Seems like this could have been avoided 100%
@theplatinumtakeoff6215
@theplatinumtakeoff6215 Ай бұрын
It was 100% avoidable. If they had just left the auto pilot on and done nothing, they would’ve been fine.
@GoatsatanRex
@GoatsatanRex 8 күн бұрын
@@theplatinumtakeoff6215you can’t use autopilot in alternate law, and you have to go to alternate law when pitot tubes are blocked and airspeed is unreliable. You don’t know anything about Airbus aircraft computer systems
@theplatinumtakeoff6215
@theplatinumtakeoff6215 6 күн бұрын
@@GoatsatanRex Well apparently neither did those pilots.
@GoatsatanRex
@GoatsatanRex 6 күн бұрын
@@theplatinumtakeoff6215 touché
@lukethomas.125
@lukethomas.125 3 ай бұрын
This is amazing. I love the effort put in for details. I understand that due to simulator limitations, you had to replace the exact aircraft model with the A330 Neo, but that’s out of your control
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Luke! :)
@SuperDuprTech
@SuperDuprTech 24 күн бұрын
What a gem of a channel, keep up the good work. Loved how detailed the video was and it was touching to have that movement of silence.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 24 күн бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@CallMeMarex
@CallMeMarex Ай бұрын
I appreciate the work you are doing here. No sensationalising of the crash with a calm and professional voice. I especially appreciate the moment of silence for the victims. Human lives were lost that day. As a safety engineer in civil engineering, fire prevention primarily, we have to be mindful human lives will be lost if we make mistakes. And as you stated we have to learn from our mistakes, but more importantly from the mistakes of others. A mistake that happened once is a tragedy. A mistake that happened twice is unforgivable. Thank you for summarising this event in a highly streamlined matter and directly referencing the results of the investigation. This is some important work you are doing here!
@nerd26373
@nerd26373 2 ай бұрын
We appreciate your insights on this case. Imagine not being able to escape or hop off the plane while experiencing turbulence 24/7. I probably would've been still shaking to the core to this day.
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@BestmanOsaigbovo
@BestmanOsaigbovo 3 ай бұрын
The first officer Bonin caused the crash.Enough of the sugar coating !
@Studio732JRL
@Studio732JRL 3 ай бұрын
He certainly was one of the primary contributors, but saying one, single factor caused this crash and that any other discussion is mere "sugar coating", shows that you have absolutely no understanding of how air crash investigations are done. A decent starting point for you would be to Google "swiss cheese model". Until then, you merely sound ignorant as hell- so don't expect too many people to take you seriously. Because when it comes to understanding how the world works, you have all the nuanced thinking of an eight year old. The world is not painted merely black and white. PS. Additional contributing factors, as literally mentioned in THIS video, are the failure of the pitot tubes (which was already a known issue by the time of this crash) and the poor CRM by the entire crew, along with the weather flying through the ITCZ. Yes, the first officer was one of those factors. But not the only factor.
@Studio732JRL
@Studio732JRL 3 ай бұрын
As spoken by someone who clearly doesn't have even the slightest clue about how these investigations are carried out. A good starting point would be for you to Google "swiss cheese model". Yes, he was a major contributing factor. He was NOT the "only" factor. The freezing pitot tubes, poor CRM, the configuration of the plane to switch to "alternate law"- disconnecting autopilot and making the plane more sensitive to roll inputs, poor training for stall recovery at high altitudes, weather flying through the ITCZ, etc. all were additional factors contributing- along with first officer Bonin's poor flying skills at high altitude. Next time, actually WATCH the video before putting your ignorance on full display to the world via the Internet. EDIT: This is not "sugar coating". The fact that you think the world is merely painted in black and white is fine, but don't expect many people to take you seriously when you come off as having the critical thinking and logical reasoning skills of a second grader. You see? Now we've all grown.
@niallwalsh6598
@niallwalsh6598 2 ай бұрын
This contributor didn't say that Bonin was the only cause. It's obvious there were other causes, frozen pitot tubes and so on. But everyone agrees that Bonin stalled the plane and caused the crash.
@Studio732JRL
@Studio732JRL 2 ай бұрын
@@niallwalsh6598 While he didn't use THOSE exact words, I think the context clues make it abundantly clear that he feels that Bonin was solely responsible. He said "caused the crash", not "caused the stall". Also, the "enough sugar coating" statement is a pretty good indication that what I said was spot on- considering it was the one and only point he presented, it's abundantly clear that he does not feel other factors contributed hence the "sugar coating". Unless he cares to respond about what "sugar coating" he takes issue with, which he has not done yet. Try to keep up here.
@beltigussin81
@beltigussin81 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@Studio732JRLBonin not only started the sequence of mistakes, but continued to pull back on the controls even after being told not to. The man was not only incompetent. His actions was evidence of panic at the most crucial moment. Nevertheless his pulling back on the stick after 10000 feet did not matter. By that time things were unrecoverable.
@bgesjackson2011
@bgesjackson2011 Ай бұрын
Now I honestly believe I have found my new favorite channel… dammmmm this is incredible! The graphics the details the engine models the way everything is explained and detailed everything is are complete and real looking! Man I know it takes you forever to get this done for us to enjoy but from here in Georgia in the United States I wanna tell you that we appreciate it and I am glad I come across your channel.. I’m on my 4th episode being AIR FRANCE 447..
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents Ай бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate it! :)
@buriedbits6027
@buriedbits6027 26 күн бұрын
My deepest condolences to all those who lost loved ones. Thank you for taking a moment to remember them.
@kotterpike714
@kotterpike714 14 күн бұрын
Why do I always watch this stuff before I’m about to take a flight
@imrapheljason
@imrapheljason 13 күн бұрын
Don't
@robertbluestein7800
@robertbluestein7800 2 ай бұрын
These new videos are very good! Keep it up!
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Robert!
@may7680
@may7680 Ай бұрын
Great video...glad to have found this channel today..instantly Subscribed ❤ Keep posting your content is high quality
@Aviationaccidents
@Aviationaccidents Ай бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@Pazuzu82
@Pazuzu82 Ай бұрын
I can see now why my brother is terrified of flying, this is a nightmare
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