Horsepower is how many times the torque of the engine is applied to the wheels every second. This was the magic line that solved everything.
@boosted2.4_sky3 жыл бұрын
...or per minute...hence RPM
@billyhess52633 жыл бұрын
thats exactly how I try to explain it to people but, I've never used that line before. I will from here on out explain with that one simple line.
@Texas_Road_Warrior3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Torque is how hard something is rotating, horsepower is how much work that rotational force is doing… for instance a motor making 600ftlbs/300hp vs 300ftlbs/300hp as long as both engines are producing the same power they WILL pull the same weight all be it at a different RPM.
@charleskibathi98813 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound a satisfying explanation though
@davidlaughman53583 жыл бұрын
@@charleskibathi9881 what's not satisfying about it?
@HarryBenso.n3 жыл бұрын
Very good, although missing the explanation of lower gearing producing lower top speed
@mariomorales81873 жыл бұрын
They should've had the car with high gears rolling and started the other car with lower gears from a dig to show top speed.
@jeffarnim3 жыл бұрын
I disagree - I believe the difference in Torque was well-explained. The horse-power was constant. Since torque really only plays in the slower speed discussion, it makes perfect sense. Top speed is a different discussion altogether.
@brettweerasooriya37763 жыл бұрын
They did address this with the car and truck analogy.
@mohsenium3 жыл бұрын
But increase the acceleration
@spacecowboy077233 жыл бұрын
@@martinsvensson6884 then why can a 400hp truck pull 40tonnes and a 400hp sport car can pull 700kg??? Because hp isn't everything as explained in the video torque and rpm is.
@rube9169 Жыл бұрын
I think it is important to show the fact that the lower-torque car has a higher top speed than the modified, higher-torque car. The lack of this clarification at the end might make someone wonder why any car has low torque if there seems to be no downside to raising it with gears or whatnot.
@garthjohnson8810 ай бұрын
Agree
@emailjimsylvester10 ай бұрын
So we now have transmissions with 8 or more gear ratios. Best of both worlds, with some additional power loss to friction and weight.
@Docfly6210 ай бұрын
So would the lower torqued car eventually pass the other car if the race was longer?
@eyecubed8510 ай бұрын
@@Docfly62 Yes the video is missing a head to head race. Where the higher torqued car would take the initial lead and eventually be overcome by the lower.
@primavent110 ай бұрын
@@Docfly62for sure, on a flat surface and without load.
@plixplop2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation! It starts to make sense once you realize a gear is simply a series of levers arranged in an array around the gear's axis. Gears are "continuous levers".
@thomasrush45502 жыл бұрын
Woah... That makes so much sense now. Great analogy.
@TENNSUMITSUMA2 жыл бұрын
Thanks old school video that explained it the same way, you know the one i'm talking about!
@Neutrino20722 жыл бұрын
@@TENNSUMITSUMA I think we all know that 1936 video now thanks to the algorithm :D
@TENNSUMITSUMA2 жыл бұрын
@@Neutrino2072 🤣
@drienkm2 жыл бұрын
@plixplop Continuous levers is a great way to think of gears! Understanding gearing is really helpful to understanding why power is meaningful. As you can intuit, thrust at the wheel is what matters, whether we are talking about towing a heavy load or reaching a high top speed. Thrust is the torque the engine puts out times the overall gearing divided by the wheel radius. Overall gearing (both the parts fixed during design, and the parts selected during operation) is based directly on the relationship between present road speed and target engine speed. So the faster the engine can rev without lowering torque, or the more torque the engine can make without needing to turn slower to do it, the more thrust you have available at all speeds (because you have more available power). This is why knowing engine torque alone doesn't tell you anything definite about performance. Until you also know the speed the engine is turning, gearing (which dictates wheel torque) is undefined. As things begin to click, I want to caution you to trust nothing from this video regarding power. Good explanation of torque, but nothing they said about power was remotely true. 1:20 This statement is 100% false. Power is the time rate of work - put in layman terms, it is the strength of resistance times how quickly that resistance is overcome. Talking about "how many times torque is transmitted" is nonsense. 2:22 Also false. The mechanical power of the stalled car was zero. It wasn't overcoming anything mechanically. Electrically, the stalled car was consuming even more power than the moving one. The point is power was in no way similar between these two cars.
@LRM12o83 жыл бұрын
I still find the explanation for Mustang owners the simplest: _"horsepower is how fast you hit the crowd when pulling at cars and coffee, torque is how many bodies you can drag along before their weight forces your car to stop"_
@riosena3503 жыл бұрын
2 cars that reach the 0-100 in 5 seconds do not cover the same distance in that time, the one with the most torque is the one that in that 5 seconds travels the most distance
@ironpaco98743 жыл бұрын
@@riosena350 wrong
@thekrakenrises90403 жыл бұрын
@@riosena350 Same speed * same time = same distance. And since they both hit 100 in 5 secs, their avg accelerations are same, so same avg speed.
@riosena3503 жыл бұрын
Within an average, what is more valuable? that the peak of the action is reached at the beginning or the end, for example if you do the 0-100 in 5 seconds, and the average action is 0.56G, and this can be achieved in 2 ways that the first second the action is 1G and the rest of 0.45G, or that the first seconds are 0.45G and the last 1G, what method will allow you to travel more meters in that 0-100), a more extreme way to plan it is that the first second reaches 99KMH , and the other 4 you dedicate to adding that last KMH, the opposite would be that the first 4 seconds you only reach 1kmh and that last second you reach the remaining 99KMH, in what way would you travel more meters in that 0-100?
@riosena3503 жыл бұрын
@@thekrakenrises9040 Power is torque X RPMs the higher the tachometer rises, the more power you have, a car with a lot of power but little torque will cost you up in the first moments, but a car with a lot of torque but little power will do very fast in the first moments but then it will you will run out of breath, in a 1/4 mile race in the first moments the car with more torque will move away even if it has the same 0-100 as the car with more power but ends up winning the car with more power for having better 100-200 , (the kinetic energy increases to the square of the speed), this is why a tesla model s performans beats a lamborginni aventador that has the same 0-100 2.7 seconds, in the first moments the tesla moves away but then the lamborginni to have better 100-200 surpasses it xD, sorry for my bad english
@JohnOdunayo3 жыл бұрын
My third year studying mechanical engineering and this the best most concise explanation of torque I've seen.
@PowerScissor2 жыл бұрын
What school are you at?
@spazzwazzle2 жыл бұрын
Damn man, you need to drop out and find a better school
@lightskinanticsjiggin81292 жыл бұрын
@@spazzwazzle The school system sucks it’s out of date.
@lightskinanticsjiggin81292 жыл бұрын
@@spazzwazzle at least where I’m at.
@sinuslebastian63662 жыл бұрын
S P I C Y M E M E S or start paying actual attention in his classes.
@dfinma3 жыл бұрын
I find it helpful to recognize they are different units of measure. Torque is a static measurement and HP has a time component.
@samarthkapuria3 жыл бұрын
Well technically torque has a force component so it has a time component but relative to force then yes.
@ouroesa3 жыл бұрын
Hp is a result of torque over time
@Jack-Tactical3 жыл бұрын
@@ouroesa no. You could apply torque to the end of time but if nothing moves there is no HP.
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
Torque=rotational force A force can be applied to something and no motion results. Without motion, there's no time measurement and no horsepower value.
@pamike48733 жыл бұрын
@@ouroesa At the beginning when the cars couldn't pull the house- they were producing torque, however they did not move. The reason was horsepower. Well, not enough horsepower. So, you can either increase the hp of your motor or increase the amount of torque. You will do less work with more torque or more work with more hp. It's vastly more complicated than that, i.e.: friction, load, etc but you get the idea. You can move a mountain with a motor the size of a pencil eraser or the size of a warehouse. The only question is how fast do you need to move your mountain.
@BltchErica2 жыл бұрын
After showing the wrench demonstration I think they should compare that to riding a bicycle at high speeds since it's something you can feel and understand as you're practically the engine in a bicycle, unlike in a car. In a higher gear when you start pedalling, the wheels are applying more force but are turning slower and thus the bike is pushing harder forward, but consequently you can't pedal as fast. If a gear gives you more force, it must give you less speed and vice versa.
@avalanche9142 Жыл бұрын
great example! But why in the case of this video, then the modified car took off faster? Doesn't it mean it had more speed compared to the unmodified version ?
@aluisious Жыл бұрын
@@avalanche9142 If the table had been longer the other car would have hit a higher max speed. It was accelerating more slowly, but assuming the limit is the electric motor speed, it had a higher potential top speed. You already know this, if you floor it in your car in first gear, it'll get to the top speed of the gear quickly. If you floor it in second it will accelerate more slowly but end up going faster.
@avalanche9142 Жыл бұрын
@@aluisious Thanks a lot for the clarification!
@julianopificius6910 Жыл бұрын
@@avalanche9142 No, it means that it could deliver more torque to the wheels at the lower speeds because of the gear reduction (just like your motor car does). Under low friction conditions (flat surface, no house in tow), the high geared car would max out at a higher speed (run out of available excess torque with which to overcome air resistance) than the low geared car, because of the inherent maximum speed of the motor, which I've described in a post above.
@cafolaadee59206 ай бұрын
@@avalanche9142 Imagine this, you and your friend are both on bicycles about to race, you start off in the first gear, and your friend in 4th gear, you will accellerate much faster but at some point you can't pedal fast enough to match the rotational speed of the wheels, while your friend has to generate a lot of force to take off in a higher gear but once he gains a bit of speed he is not limited by the speed of the wheels and he can go faster after a bit.
@elkabongg27163 жыл бұрын
It is very straightforward when using identical electric motors and the difference in torque is created in the transmission and the torque is applied constantly. It gets a lot more complex when talking about internal combustion engines. This is because torque is applied in increasing and diminishing pulses once every 2 revolutions. The torque measure is effectively a factor of the amount of explosive force created by combustion at a given speed multiplied by the mechanical advantage derived by crankshaft design which is a constant. Its main use is to indicate how easily the engine can move a static load, or typically heavy loads at low rpm, it does not tell you how much work can be done and at what rate. BHP on the other hand uses the torque figure multiplied by how many times that force is applied each second. Thus if you are interested in how fast it can make a car go for instance Car A producing 100NM of torque at 2000rpm would do the same amount of work as Car B producing 50NM at 4000rpm and in theory equally in performance. How that converts to actual performance in a car is complex as gearing and mechanical losses also come into play but the basic principle is true. The typical engine speed that produces the biggest bang is around 3000 - 4000rpm and that is the maximum torque figure, after that combustion efficiency increasingly diminishes as engine speed rises so at say 7000rpm where it is doing more work and creating higher BHP with a smaller bang and less torque. Race engines are typically capable of efficiency at higher rpm and that is their advantage in creating higher BHP and performance.
@tomarmstrong12813 жыл бұрын
The amount of torque (turning moment) for an otto cycle gas engine (conventional auto) is limited by the length of the lever arm of the crankshaft. The equivalent 'lever arm' of an electric motor is the back emf. Which allows greatest torque at low rotational speeds.
@petekay673 жыл бұрын
So why does a diesel engine have higher torque than a petrol engine?
@tomarmstrong12813 жыл бұрын
@@petekay67 They have a longer stroke. Distance x Power = Force.
@tomarmstrong12813 жыл бұрын
@@IgorArkin "wat? How come" - How come what?
@elkabongg27163 жыл бұрын
@@petekay67 They run significantly higher compressions to detonate and thus achieve higher explosive force. Factors such as slower burn and atomization, extra strong pistons rods and crank to accommodate the force means heavy components which inhibits high revs. Lower revs mean lower piston speeds and longer stroke to bore ratio is beneficial which means greater turning moment on the crank which also increases torque.
@crisscrossam2 жыл бұрын
I have never fully understood the difference between torque, horsepower and how gears work until i watched this. Thank you!
@Chevsilverado3 жыл бұрын
You can make a 10:1 lever and hang off of it to create 2000 ft lbs of torque, but try propelling a car with that. Horsepower is like torque per second, and if you have a shit ton of torque, but like 100 horsepower, you won’t be going very quick, but you will be able to move a heavy thing slowly.
@therealjasonseidel3 жыл бұрын
Change the gearing
@ОлександрБовкун-ш1ф3 жыл бұрын
Power still the same and it's in kWh or watts, P=w*T P - power (watts) ; w - angle speed (1/sec); T - torque (Newton/meters). It means same power, but if you'll elevate torque, you'll depress speed. this cars are bad example because motor RPM has to be equal to make experiment right.
@markdaniel87403 жыл бұрын
@@ОлександрБовкун-ш1ф and all cars have gears.
@ОлександрБовкун-ш1ф3 жыл бұрын
@@markdaniel8740 doesn't matter. Power 🔋 coming from motor through doesn't matter how many gears. Gears change speed and torque: more torque-less speed
@jeffarnim3 жыл бұрын
Yes but that’s a different discussion entirely.
@neuvocastezero1838 Жыл бұрын
Nice, but it would be nice to see a situation in which the unmodified car could out perform the modified one, as you described with the race car vs the truck on a race track.
@seanrosedotcom10 ай бұрын
If the track had been longer, the "car" would have overtaken because it would have a much higher top speed. The "truck" just started quicker because of the lower gear ratio.
@AmE_Zy10 ай бұрын
@@seanrosedotcom Owh nice explanation, thank you very much
@krischan672 жыл бұрын
Torque = power divided by angular speed (angle of rotation per second). No matter how few HP an engine has, if it's connected to a gearbox that turns slowly enough, it can move anything. That's why you are driving up a steep hill in a low gear. The car will apply more torque to the wheels through its gearbox. That's not to be confused with the torque of the engine itself which is the torque at the crankshaft, i.e. before the gearbox.
@com2ghz10 ай бұрын
Torque does not have a time aspect. Horsepower does. Torque is only for one rotation. Horsepower is to move weight within a certain moment of time. So no matter hoe much torque you have, it’s useless if it takes much time to rotate. There are impact hammers having higher torque than certain cars. But imagine accelerating your car with an impact drill.
@MrSlowestD1610 ай бұрын
@@com2ghz They're not saying torque has a time aspect. Power has the time aspect, it's work over time. So higher speed = smaller time, therefore we usually have P = W/t, or re-written P*t = W, and since speed is inversely proportional to time, so t=1/v, so if we sub it in P*(1/v) = W, or P/v = W, which what the person stated (power over velocity = work (torque)). Think that math checks out, but either way, as you said, power has the time component, not torque. So by taking power and stripping away the time component (speed) you get work or torque, which is what they did.
@primavent110 ай бұрын
Gears have mass and weight too, so eventually an engine can be too weak to get a car uphill if you take it to the extreme. Gears need energy to get moving and overcome friction.
@GlasboxEngineering8 ай бұрын
very true and that's why on a slope you have even rev more, to convert that RPM to torque
@MrSlowestD168 ай бұрын
@@GlasboxEngineering That's less about RPM itself and more about the torque curve of the motor. If the engine makes a lot of torque at or just off idle (like a diesel), less or no revving is necessary. We only need to rev when the torque output at idle is very low like it is on most engines to the point where it can't move the car on an incline. Giving it fuel increases the torque output, even if you don't increase the RPM at all.
@Lecter19713 жыл бұрын
Great video and good explanation but I feel there is something missing here. From the video you get the expression that, with one gear setup, you get the highest torque, and the highest speed, which normally would not be the case. Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9.5488. To explain this, in a normal car you normaly start in first gear to have the maximum torque to get the car moving, but the speed is very limited. And once you are moving you switch to higher gears because you do not need the same torque, but you want higher speed. But the motor and the rest of the system is still the same
@darthhodges3 жыл бұрын
To add to your already good explanation, the difference between a heavy truck and a sports car with the same horsepower ratings is how much stress the parts can take and how they are geared. A top speed sports car is made as light as possible and the transmission is optimized for speed. Attach a large trailer to the back and you might bottom out the suspension, it will struggle to move, and you have a decent chance of breaking some part of the powertrain. A heavy truck won't keep up unloaded as it is dramatically heavier and its transmission is designed differently, but it will probably drag the sports car behind it (even if the car's brakes were locked) without difficulty and handle far heavier trailers without breaking anything.
@ParRagon-3 жыл бұрын
They explained the transmission, Not the difference between torque and horsepower. 🤦🏻♂️
@anzac_biscuits3 жыл бұрын
@@ParRagon- check the title of the video
@ParRagon-3 жыл бұрын
@@anzac_biscuits horsepower vs torque simplest explanation. And still they didnt really explain that, More how Cars would be able to apply That torque when gearing is changed. And which outcome low gearing vs higher gearing has at the Same amount of torque provided by the Motor.
@anzac_biscuits3 жыл бұрын
@@ParRagon- ahh i see the confusion, i thought you ment the intention of the video was to explain gearing, my bad.
@leonidchumakov45183 жыл бұрын
Очень поверхностное объяснение, которое рассказывает, как работает коробка передач, но абсолютно не раскрывает разницу между двигателем легкового автомобиля и трактора
@ayva6ovay3gmail313 жыл бұрын
Tractor engine is bigger, have longer piston shafts and bigger transmission parts. Therefore the torque of tractor engine would be higher even if both has the same hp
@ВасилийПопов-м5ж3 жыл бұрын
@@ayva6ovay3gmail31 sure? Longer pistons - high rpm. The weight of crankshaft in Diesel engine lidl bit too much - good torque. But all the power of diesel comes from efficiency. 35% vs 25% in petrol engines ☝🏽
@Oppa-pa3 жыл бұрын
Момент трактора происходит за счет массивного маховика
@Heckfy1973 жыл бұрын
@@Oppa-pa Так всё таки что важнее, объём двигателя или количество лошадей? На скорость, разгон , что больше влияет, ?
@Oppa-pa3 жыл бұрын
@@Heckfy197 на разгон момент, но учитывать длину передач их дружбу с двигателнм и скорость переключения как правило на каждой модели двигателя пик момента происходит на определенных оборотах , а на скорость длинные передачи
@Vordt_2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to explore the potential for an inverse square law with this. Where the weight and density of the gears, or the length of your wrench extender you add cause the resistance to be greater than the applied torque, making it difficult to turn the wheels, or the extender breaks halfway, etc.
@SCTALLN2 жыл бұрын
Would also be worth exploring the relative atmospheric air density during test conditions, more over what where the friction coefficients of the choice of materials, or does the wife clean the lav when youre at work.
@boris_srs3 жыл бұрын
Это хорошее объяснение работы КПП но никак не объяснение лошадиных сил и крутящего момента
@AntonySimkin3 жыл бұрын
Да вроде все аспекты покрыты... Это ведь об одном и том же с разного ракурса
@krukodil3 жыл бұрын
Именно
@СемёнБучнев-ь9к3 жыл бұрын
Вообще понятие "лошадиная сила" сегодня очень относительное, есть точные величины, скорость, крутящий момент, число оборотов двс и колеса, а лошаниные силы вычисляются из этих параметров
@ВладимирИванов-б1ф3 жыл бұрын
А я всë ждал, когда же обьяснят наконец где лошади!
@roofprod3 жыл бұрын
Нихрена не понятно 🤷♂️
@FJ80Coop3 жыл бұрын
Adding another gear is clled gear reduction which increases the torque by multiplication and slows the overall top speed due to (numerically) higher gearing...
@nonidtuhnow49243 жыл бұрын
You'd have better acceleration with the lower gear but also you reduce max speed (same to the extended lever arm).
@Zen-t2j3 жыл бұрын
Yea I feel like the video could've done a better job showing the detriments of the higher torque setup.
@JoaoVitor-ub2mm3 жыл бұрын
@@Zen-t2j Yes. For anyone who do not know it deeper, it may seems like the toy car with high torque had a better top speed. Wich isn't the case, this car reach a certain speed quickly, due to the high torque, but will not be able to reach a bigger speed.
@paulobonilhaSP Жыл бұрын
Muito bem explicado! Obrigado pela aula! 🇧🇷
@evnabiev3 жыл бұрын
Читать и смотреть то ещё удовольствие))
@wrenchinator66673 жыл бұрын
It seems to be you should have included top end speed over time also.
@danbradley71763 жыл бұрын
I agree. We should have seen that the unmodified car would win a longer race due to higher top speed.
@travisperry45153 жыл бұрын
Yea
@msain4273 жыл бұрын
How about u do it
@Doublehashbrown3 жыл бұрын
Top speed has nothing to do with horsepower or torque. Top speed is about gearing the longer gears you have the more top speed you get.. more HP and torque on helps you get to top speed faster.
@sudhikrish97853 жыл бұрын
Yes..this is just demonstration of torque... horsepower related you didn't show anything
@xaviercrowley75172 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, however the the track you used isn't long enough to fully demonstrate the differences between the 2. As other comments have said, horsepower includes the measurement of time. One of the best ways this has been described is(in the reference to drag racing) torque gets you off the line, horsepower gets you down the track. Given a longer run time for the 2 cars used this example, the higher horsepower car would reach the finish faster than the high torque car.
@MrSongib2 жыл бұрын
He said "SIMPLEST EXPLANATION" sir
@paulk53112 жыл бұрын
horsepower is just a measurement of torque plus engine rpm. if you can produce high torque numbers at a higher rpm then the horsepower numbers will go up. the formula is, horsepower = torque x rpms divided by 5252.
@deathtoming22012 жыл бұрын
Ah yes so really you could say a car with 500hp and 1000 torque would win against a same car with 500 torque and 1000hp ?? I thought HP was how fast the engine goes and torque is how that power gets put down to the ground
@DevMeloy2 жыл бұрын
@@deathtoming2201 Horsepower is a marketing term and nothing else, torque is the force being applied. If we take weight out of the equation with the only variable being gear reduction it doesn't matter at what RPM the power is generated. What allows a car to accelerate is gearing a car to stay in the power band, a good example of this is a Ducati twin vs. an inline 4. On paper the inline 4's typically makes more HP but far less torque, generally speaking the sport bikes weight the same and have similar performance numbers.
@deathtoming22012 жыл бұрын
@@DevMeloy yeah but I mean like Torque is obviously what puts power down from wheels to road but in a car for example the torque gets you 0-60 quick it’s the HP that lets you go the long mile as in 180mph like a car that has 600 torque and 400Hp compared to a car with with more HP same amount of torque at 600 the top speeds are always higher ?
@salahdehina97332 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Probably the best explanation of power and torque on the internet.
@wrenchturner247 Жыл бұрын
Actually one of the boringest videos I've ever watched... I'm a mechanic and there would be better ways to show this... plus gloves dude seriously get a life
@elikasinger31753 жыл бұрын
"Horsepower gets you to the wall" "Torque gets you through the wall" -my step dad
@xxMikePortnoyJrxx3 жыл бұрын
Momentum is the deciding factor, not torque or horsepower.
@billyray47163 жыл бұрын
That's wrong though, entirely
@Terminator40003 жыл бұрын
This old saying has been proven wrong
@rigididiot2 жыл бұрын
Stepdads can't be trusted... Only REAL dads... unless your real dad says that horsepowere gets you to the wall and torque gets you through it... In that case, your real dad can't be trusted either.
@TheRiotonmars8 ай бұрын
This explanation is even more concise than this video
@animalkub25103 жыл бұрын
Just happy to see something worth watching. Thought he did a good job of explaining the basics of it. Anything else would have most people lost.
@Gabriel_Moline3 жыл бұрын
Why, he?
@statementleaver80953 жыл бұрын
With the information provided in this video I am expecting parts 2,3,4,5+6 to follow with actual results. Mass was applied completely wrong... Power to Weight was replaced with gear ratio!!! Torque definitions were almost none existant (Diesel engines). Rod lenth depicts combustion pressure!! (Forced induction requires Turbine Technology). The Torque is in Piston count!! (Spun Mass)
@randomsimpson2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabriel_Moline Oh God, take that crap somewhere else (like back to your echo-chamber). Did you see the hair on that arm? Second question: Are the women in your family Italian?
@TobySimone2 жыл бұрын
@@randomsimpson I always find it amusing that the people who claim other people are snowflakes are the ones that are easily triggered
@jess18602 жыл бұрын
haha i was just thinking the same thing
@JavaRivers3 жыл бұрын
I talked with my dad and watched 3 videos about this and got nothing. This video did it for me. Thank you!
@cillianryan10653 жыл бұрын
If I understand this correctly torque is power and horsepower is speed
@vrayn38703 жыл бұрын
@@cillianryan1065 no. Think it about this way: Horepower: the power your engine makes. Remember, both cars had the same "engine". Both have the same amount of HP. But thanks to the additional gears he put into the car, the power from the engine (equal in both cars) could be TRANSFERED more often to the wheels per seconds. This leads to a higher rotational force (like the extension of the wrench in the beginning). Thus meaning, the car with higher torque can pull the house, climb the hill and gets off the start better, because the powers is better transmitted to the wheels. Hope that helps
@ddjohnson97173 жыл бұрын
horse power describing the engine and torque describing the transmission.
@billyhess52633 жыл бұрын
@@cillianryan1065 @vrayn is correct, just remember one thing. The unmodified car will have a higher top speed than the car with the gear addition.
@cillianryan10653 жыл бұрын
@@billyhess5263 why
@FernadoBenzBenz17 сағат бұрын
Best explanation 💥
@juzoli3 жыл бұрын
No, it is not HP vs torque, just different gearing ratios. You just showed us how transmission works, but their engine is the same, with the same HP and torque.
@dabradguy3 жыл бұрын
You're right, but the video is all the way wrong. If you measure the torque at the wheels, it would be higher on the geared car.
@juzoli3 жыл бұрын
@@dabradguy But how do you measure horsepower at the wheel, and which car has higher horsepower at the wheel?
@TheMule713 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This video doesn't explain at all why an engine has max HP and max torque at different RPMs. Based on the video you'd assume that max torque is at max HP. Also why a truck and a sport car have very different engines, even if they can have the same max HP? It seems all depends on gear but that's not true. You can't just swap the engines and expect the same results.
@dabradguy3 жыл бұрын
@@juzoli you measure horse power the same way. Torque * Rpm. so RPM would go down. I think the horsepower stays the same, or at least pretty close.
@dudejo3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMule71 yeah, the parasitic losses alone would make the sports engine literally useless in a big rig.
@MisterAMuck3 жыл бұрын
As pointed out below, what's missing is the 2 cars on a longer track, showing the decreased top-speed the modified car now has. In my opinion, right at the end of the video. Otherwise, a perfect video. Very simplistic, but that was one of the goals here. Good going!!
@rangvald40363 жыл бұрын
Torque is a measure of the force going to the wheels at that exact moment in time. Horsepower is a measure of how much work is done over a period of time, like a second or a minute or an hour, day, whatever.
@EdKolis3 жыл бұрын
Yep! That's why horsepower can be converted to watts; there's about 746 watts in one horsepower. And watts can be expressed as joules (energy) divided by seconds (time), so thus a horsepower is 746 joules of energy per second. If you have a 750 watt power supply in your computer, that's just about one horsepower! More power! Arr arr arr! Joules in turn are newtons times meters - where newtons are a unit of force equal to about a quarter of a pound.
@TheBroLounge3 жыл бұрын
Torque gets you moving, horsepower keeps you moving.
@jom0bx1893 жыл бұрын
Does that make torque the derivative of horsepower?
@TheBroLounge3 жыл бұрын
@@jom0bx189 Hmm not sure. If you dont have power (hp) to get things moving, torque cant exist. So yeah I guess HP comes before torque.
@gabemorris12313 жыл бұрын
@@jom0bx189 not quite. The formula is power = torque*angular velocity (P=Tw) where the angular velocity is in radians per second. It’s the rate of change of energy with respect to time. I think the title of this video is misleading. It’s really comparing the trade off between torque and angular velocity.
@kom_59792 ай бұрын
This was a very simple explanation. Thank you. You guys explained a complex subject in a very easy way. I'll subscribe for sure! Keep up the good content!
@kingcosworth26433 жыл бұрын
Basically times load x speed a given horsepower motor can move a heavy weight slowly, or a light weight fast. The sports car motor compared to the truck could potentially move the same weight as the truck with low enough gearing. The reason they don't use the same motor between the two vehicles is the truck motor does around 2000rpm so it lasts crossing the country, driving across the country at 8000rpm won't happen for to long.
@pleasedontwatchthese95933 жыл бұрын
This is exactly right. HP was created to compare different engines. So 700hp is 700hp and with gearing both engines can do the same thing. Though both engines might not last as long hehe, like you said
@piereligio_ds3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that points this out. As long as an engine does some power, you can adjust the gearing for getting the same torque at the wheels. What can change though, is how the power curve is delivered. Diesel engines have the benefit of being high torque at low RPMs, which does help to avoid stalling the engine when the vehicle has to move much weight
@deano35803 жыл бұрын
@@piereligio_ds Correct. For those who are interested, this guy does a good explanation of why diesels fundamentally produce more torque and at lower revs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eme8nnSbmLmiorM&ab_channel=EngineeringExplained
@festol13 жыл бұрын
03:00 If friction, traction and drag isn't an issue, the high-geared car with relative higher power would takeover the low-geared and rel high torque car in a long strip. But is an experiment with fixed gear and same plataform, with combustion engine vehicles other factors would be present, but the same principle applies.
@Cincinnatis3 жыл бұрын
As a visual learner this does a great job of explaining the difference.
@FreeSpeechAbsolutist17763 жыл бұрын
@Strat Abuser I submit mine to be crowned as the best pfp
@FreeSpeechAbsolutist17763 жыл бұрын
@Strat Abuser I whole heartedly agree
@FreeSpeechAbsolutist17763 жыл бұрын
@Strat Abuser damn straight.
@LorenR19622 жыл бұрын
Hello, I loved how you increased the coefficient of friction with a little rubber band. It would be a great demonstration to your average viewer, to demonstrate coefficient of friction. Explaining why two cars engaged in a tug of war contest can be manipulated by tires choice so that either one can win.
@dannypipewrench5332 жыл бұрын
Hello, I compete in VEX Robotics. Adding rubber bands to wheels to increase traction is something I learned very quickly. Not always necessary for drive wheels, but very good for fly wheels.
@ItBusinessyoutube3 жыл бұрын
No loud music, no needless intros, just the facts. Love it
@nickmorphius13 жыл бұрын
В эксперименте не объясняется связь мощности и момента двигателя. Ведь добавление шестерен - это изменение передаточного числа. А это уже трансмиссия.
@PhilipJFry-lw1zk3 жыл бұрын
Добавление шестерен это увеличение крутящего момента на ведущих колесах с одновременным уменьшением их угловой скорости. Если брать мощность на ведущих колесах N=T×₩ где Т - это крутящий момент, а ₩ - угловая скорость. При постоянной подводимой мощности можно ехать быстро, но на легке или медленно, но везя груз.
@SchmavidSchmobb3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! So simple and informative without any BS or frills. Thank you!
@tserzz3 жыл бұрын
> Leverage > Torque. < Leverage < Torque.
@intergalacticbasketballdro71862 жыл бұрын
It's very simple, Torque × RPM = Horsepower
@intergalacticbasketballdro71862 жыл бұрын
@@tserzzForce + Leverage = Torque (Not just leverage alone) A lever without force produces no Torque.
@saulwarren96115 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration, simple, clear and easier to grasp, thanks👌
@Leukick3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, thanks for this explanation. I never thought to look this up but it's something I've always wondered about in the back of my mind
@BatteryTestChannel3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! However this video is missing a critical final demo of the unmodified car winning the race in a low load (flat) scenario.
@jeff_slova3 жыл бұрын
Aí, mais uma boa recomendação do KZbin! Boa explicação do vídeo, claro e eficiente.
@BeeKing703 жыл бұрын
O KZbin tbm me favoreceu ao recomendar está explicação. Fomos abençoados com um vídeo muito bem explicativo e informativo
@JoaoVitor-ub2mm3 жыл бұрын
Torque = Força. Cavalos = Velocidade.
@adityaroshan1688 Жыл бұрын
The principle of extension of wrench arm to gear was fantastic explanation. Thank you very much
@justinhall30733 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. My only critique would have been to use different colors to help the audience keep track of which car was which during the demonstrations. Thank you again for the time and effort - it really was great!
@drienkm2 жыл бұрын
They did a fine job explaining torque, but please know that you have learned nothing remotely correct about power from this video. 1:20 This statement is false. Power is the time rate of work - put in layman terms, power is how strong resistance is TIMES how quickly it is being overcome. Talking about "how many times torque is transmitted" is nonsense. 2:22 Also false. The mechanical power of the stalled car was zero. Torque wasn't zero, but even torque at the motor wasn't the same between the two cars (because of how electric motors work).
@xfdfff26202 жыл бұрын
@@drienkm why was the mechanical horsepower there zero and what do you mean by that exactly
@drienkm2 жыл бұрын
@@xfdfff2620 The mechanical power in the stalled car was zero because power is not just force (like torque). It is force times movement against the force. No movement - no mechanical power (there was certainly electrical power though, but 100% of it was being turned to thermal power because the motor couldn't move.) Here's an example the might be clearer. There are large forces in the wood in a tree when the wind blows, but the tree needs no power to remain standing - it only needs material strength and no energy is used - no power. Likewise if you put a car in park on a hill and leave it, there is significant torque in the driveshaft, but no energy is needed to keep the car parked - no power.
@xfdfff26202 жыл бұрын
@@drienkm do you think it wasnt able to put that power down, because of lack of torque in that scenario?
@drienkm2 жыл бұрын
@@xfdfff2620 In a way, yes. The motor torque was actually higher in the stalled car than in the moving one and it was consuming more electrical power (a characterictic of electric motors), but the gearing was such that the load was still too high for the motor to turn, making it just a heater:)
@scotttak3 жыл бұрын
Torque is how strong the engine's rotation is usually measured at a given rpm. So imagine an engine of a given weight where a tire of a given circumference is directly attached to each end of the crank shaft. If that engine makes 100 units of torque at 1 rpm and you compare it to an identical engine except it makes 100 units of torque at 1000 rpm, the 1000 rpm engine will travel farther in a minute outputting 100 units of torque than the 1 rpm engine, meaning the 1000 rpm engine has more horsepower. Horsepower is kind of like how far you can travel using a specific amount of torque which is why if an engine makes its torque higher in its revs, it makes more horsepower (more distance traveled/more revs completed in a given time).
@zelibober3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Torque is rotation power, while hp is quantity of rotational powers per unit of time.
@SlyNine3 жыл бұрын
Horsepower can tell you how much relative (compared to other rpms) torque you can generate at the wheels after the gearbox is taken into account. Gearbox is a torque multiplier. Engine torque is only ever more relevant if there is no gearbox.
@vaportrail2263 жыл бұрын
Stick to composing music. It's probably your jam anyway!
@TestECull3 жыл бұрын
@@SlyNine Torque is what moves you. With no torque, you have no power. If you have a lot of torque, a very low amount of HP is still more than enough to get the job done. If HP is what mattered semi trucks wouldn't need engines that make 1600+ FT LBs of torque but only 300-500hp. It'd be the other way around they'd be rocking engines that made 1500+ HP and only a couple hundred FT LBs.
@scotttak3 жыл бұрын
Torque is not a measure of power. Torque is force applied to a lever (e.g. a crankshaft...where the connecting rod attaches to the crank) at a certain distance from the center of rotation. This is why units of torque are a force and distance (so lb ft being a pound of force applied at 1 foot from the center of rotation). Power on the other hand is force times speed or torque times angular speed. Horsepower is a measure of power but with a scalar applied so torque times angular speed all divided by 5252.
@jacquesb89273 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is the best explanation for a layman that I've seen.
@haris.saputra.2 ай бұрын
Physics is the most fun when you put it into practice 😊. Very well explanation sir
@thedexterlakeclub86142 жыл бұрын
Great demo; extra kudos for showing your experimental progression. Most folks wouldn't show the plowing thru the barrier and crashing, then securing/gluing the barrier, then adding rubber bands for traction. It's more entertaining when you 'show your work'.
@somethingfishy18023 жыл бұрын
Torque is the literal force output at any given moment, horsepower is the rate at which it can be applied.
@wadimek1163 жыл бұрын
Rpm is the rate. Horsepower is total work being done
@infinphoenix133 жыл бұрын
This was easily one of the best explanation videos I've ever seen on this topic.
@DanArmani Жыл бұрын
Neverr learnt these two so good 👍
@FarFromHome913 жыл бұрын
thank you for simplifying the concepts! i understand there is probably a lot more to it but for a layman this was great!
@Paninero8033 жыл бұрын
Ещё можно объяснить простой формулой: мощность=частота вращения *момент. То есть при одинаковой мощности может быть разным соотношение частоты вращения и момента. Чем больше момент, тем меньше скорость и наоборот. Формула взята из книги «Теория электропривода».
@user_sanja Жыл бұрын
Я так и нифига не понял, если поставить движек от феррати на тягач, он будет быстрее ездить, или нихуя не поедет! Всегда думал, что двигатель обеспечивает мощность, а КПП обеспечивает момент.
@ethereal412 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I think a good idea would be to show a high horsepower model car vs high torque model car, with a straight race, straight race with loads, uphill race, upihill with loads. I think this would make it really easy to understand the difference!
@berdmonte53702 жыл бұрын
A 18V driver can generate up to 350nm of torque. Imagine it is made to drive a car instead of its 1L 3cyl tiny gasoline ICE that produces 150nm of torque. Use any gearing you'd like. How it performs, your guess?
@jetengine7 Жыл бұрын
@@berdmonte5370 The 18V driver rotates much slower than a car engine, so while it may have enough torque to move the car, it would only be able to move it at a very low speed. The car engine may produce 180 horsepower, but the 18V driver likely produces less than 1 horsepower. There is no substitute for power. If you want to move a lot of mass fast, you need a lot of power. There's no way around that.
@berdmonte5370 Жыл бұрын
@@jetengine7 tell it not to me
@sunilmistry48368 ай бұрын
Great explain, Thank you so much.
@markdaniel87403 жыл бұрын
Horsepower = Torque x RPM ÷ 5252 Comparing horsepower to torque is like comparing distance to time. Distance = Speed x Time
@sijonda3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be pointed out. You have zero work = horse power, without torque.
@pedrosabino87513 жыл бұрын
Einstein and general relativity: 🤐
@Innosos3 жыл бұрын
The 5252 constant only holds for imperial units.
@andreabianchini532 жыл бұрын
In the last comparison, the toy car on the left having an higher applied torque than the one on the right is able to act on the ground an higher friction force, being the lever arm the same in both cars. Major traction means more acceleration and therefore more variation of momentum (speed) in the time unit!
@redsquirrelftw3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I used to love playing with k'nex gears and learned this concept. I had built a crane and used a wind mill powered by a fan and it was able to lift really heavy weights since I geared it right down. Did other fun stuff like that too like winch etc.
@epoch_ag Жыл бұрын
Dude it was great I didn't expect to be like this
@asmorodinlistru3 жыл бұрын
*Крутящий момент это "ускорение", а мощность это "скорость"!* Про крутящй момент: из двух автомобилей с одинаковыми массой и коробкой передач, со светофора быстрее стартанет тот, у которого двигло с большим крутящим моментом. Про мощность: из двух автомобилей с одинаковыми коэффициентом лобового сопротивления и коробкой передач, большей макс скорости достигнет тот у которго двигло большей мощности.
@romaskyline27293 жыл бұрын
А знаешь почему так?)
@asmorodinlistru Жыл бұрын
@@romaskyline2729 Причина того, что у современных легковых авто с ДВС макс.крутящий момент ДВС достигается на средних оборотах двигателя, а макс.скорость авто на высоких оборотах, кроется в коробке передач. Теоретически, еще большую скорость можно развить, для данного конкретного авто, с данным ДВС, если бы у коробки передач этого авто была бы, условно, 8 (9/10/...) передача, на которой бы и происходило уравновешивание макс.кртящего момента ДВС силой лобового сопртивления авто, которая тем сильнее чем выше квадрат скорости. Но для автомобилей широкого потребления это, видимо, сильно усложняет конструкцию коробки и поэтому не встречается в "природе".
@Turbogto_guy3 жыл бұрын
If you increase the length of the “piston rods” (actually connecting rods) it does not create more torque. All that does is allow the piston to hang at top dead center and bottom bear center longer and it accelerates the piston faster from each stop. Benefits? Maybe. But not more torque. Increasing the crankshafts stroke is what creates more torque. Like putting an extension on your wrench.
@pweter3513 жыл бұрын
Diesels do it by burning longer and as the conrod gets to 90 degrees
@webtoedman3 жыл бұрын
A longer rod can apply force from the piston over a greater angular displacement of the crank for a given stroke before the angle between the piston pin, big end bearing and main bearing journal starts to produce side thrust than downward movement.
@Turbogto_guy3 жыл бұрын
@@webtoedman in many many many many Dyno tests and drag tests, it makes enough difference that can’t be shown. However, a longer rod will wear the pistons less due to the shallower angle of the rod, pushing it into the wall less. A longer rod DOES NOT create a higher mechanical advantage like using a longer wrench does. A LONGER STROKE crank does. And guess what. You need a SHORTER rod with a longer stroke crank. OR you move the piston pin up higher in the piston, and sometimes it pushes the pin height into the oil ring.
@suekennedy89173 жыл бұрын
Torque is amount of air flowing through the engine per cycle. Longer stroke is more torque.
@pweter3513 жыл бұрын
@@suekennedy8917 torque is force x perpendicular distance or moment arn not sure what you mean because a 2l diesel has more torque than a 2l petrol
@timovanaanholt3 жыл бұрын
At 0:55 you say it’s the length of the piston rod that can in- or decrease the torque, but that should be the diameter of the crankpin in relation to the crank-center right?
@jeffreywilliamson48633 жыл бұрын
The throw of the crank which is also the stroke yes. The length of the connecting rod is immaterial.
@justinhadden516010 ай бұрын
Torque is simply a force applied in a turning motion. Horsepower is a measurement of work. My instructor in trades school explained it like this. Put a 6 foot wrench on a seized bolt, pull as hard as you can, but thr bolt doesnt turn. Did you put out torque? Yes! Loads of it, probably over 500 ft/lbs. Did you put out any horsepower? No, because the bolt did not turn. Horsepower is work, and work requires movement, either rotationally of linearly. If you look on youtube at those old steam tractors, they put out something like 110hp and 3000 ft/lbs of torque. Sounds too good to be true, until you realize they make that power and torque at about 200 rpm. If i took a 110hp honda engine and connected a gearbox to bring the speed down from 5000-6000 rpm down to 200 rpm it too would put out 3000 ft/lbs or torque.
@geemy96753 жыл бұрын
with appropriate gearing, a smaller engine with less torque but same power can tow exactly the same weight as a higher torque engine. although to achieve the same work it will need higher rpm and usually will wear quicker, unless it's specifically designed to handle it, with adequate cooling, strong internal components, and well maintained (good oil and frequent changes). you can make up for torque with shorter gearing. you cannot make up for low power with torque. Now if your main goal is longevity or low maintenance, things are different.
@craftsmantrucker68673 жыл бұрын
No not really. I tried that and I blew up the Tranny and Axle for expanding and over reaching it's capacity threshold I learned the hard way lesson after doing that. That's what happened to my 1999 Nissan Skyline R34, I didn't followed the specifications of it's tranny system and instead I increased it's Torque way above the engine's limitations or threshold without replacing the specific tranny, axle and gears to handle the higher amount of torque. And I blew up the Tranny on my 2nd race and lost $15,000 in the track (FYI, I don't do street race, I only race in the track, with big cash or pink slip as a bets and payments will do just fine)
@misters28373 жыл бұрын
In theory at top speed yes...BUT...You would need a transmission with 50+ gears to get the 600hp/400lb-ft Race car engine to pull the same speed/load as 600hp/3000lb-ft Caterpillar truck engine does in 13-18 gears...
@geemy96753 жыл бұрын
@@misters2837 the number of gear needed only depends on your lowest/highest gear ratio and how wide is your power band, and how much you want to optimize your mileage at stabilized speed.if your power band is not super narrow meaning not NA high revving race tuned engine, 13-18 speeds will be plenty enough. you still have the cooling issue if you use an engine at high load/low speed where it's not intended to operate but nothing a cooling upgrade couldn't fix. otherwise, power is power, it doesn't care about displacement. wheel torque can be as high as you need with correct gearing and transmission speed for the torque make no mistake, I'm not saying you should swap your truck with a Honda S2000 because in the end it all comes down to reliability which is the reason working truck diesels are overbuilt
@misters28373 жыл бұрын
@@geemy9675 No.
@geemy96753 жыл бұрын
@@misters2837 that's very concincing
@just_gud_man3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо, я про*бел 3:19 минуты своей жизни, чтобы так нихера не понять👍👍👍
@tnt_showyt___58612 жыл бұрын
солідарний з вами
@АлександрЛ-й1е2 жыл бұрын
Та же херня
@МихаилНевский-ъ5б3 жыл бұрын
В конце не хватает теста на скорость, машинка с добавленными шестернями по прямой будет проигрывать по скорость, закон физики гласит, если в чем то выигрываешь то обязательно в чем то проиграешь
@МихаилНевский-ъ5б3 жыл бұрын
@Помогай Бедным это бы просто показало закономерность расхода энергии на проделанную работу в зависимости от назначения, если это например буксир там скорость не важна, если это спорткар то там грузоподъёмность не важна, все зависит от назначения
@МихаилНевский-ъ5б3 жыл бұрын
@Помогай Бедным так не получиться выиграть и там и там, всегда в чем то проиграешь, ну как тебе объяснить? Ну возьмём трактор Т-40 1980 г. выпуска у него двигатель 50 л.с. Мак. скорость 27 км.ч. И ВАЗ-2101 1980 г. Мощность 59 л.с но мак. Скорость 140 км.ч. А теперь о прицепе что трактор может утащить до 7 т. А легковушка максимум до 1 т Вот видишь по мощности они почти одинаковы но за счёт того что коробки разные у них то и скорость и грузоподъёмность разная, что собственно и было показано в ролике, проще говоря они из легковушки сделали трактор и это получилось за счёт того что они проиграли в скорости
@cdrom16859 ай бұрын
This was a superb explanation, bravo 👏👌🎯
@werdnassorc83692 жыл бұрын
As someone who's career depends on knowing the difference between horsepower and torque, I don't think this helps much in explaining the difference at all. It's more analogous to the difference a torque box can make, given a certain amount of joules input. I think, the difference between a push, and a punch, would come closer to explaining horsepower vs torque
@PrinzAquatic2 жыл бұрын
So torque is how much can you carey but hp is how fast can you go carrying it?
@pihi422 жыл бұрын
What is missing here is the following: electric motors have (almost) constant torque, but variable power. The reason that the left car with gears accelerates faster is not only greater torque, but also greater power output of the motor due to greater RPM at the same car speed. The power rating on most electric motors is the MAXIMUM power a motor can generate (before burning out). The left car (with greater torque) will reach maximum power sooner, at lower (car) speed, then it will either stop accelerating, burn out or be electronically limited. The right car will reach max power at greater speed (if it can reach that speed at all), then stop/burn/block.
@zeeshanahmad36142 жыл бұрын
I love the explanation of Torque. Thank you for that. I understand torque now. But if you had also done the same for Horsepower, that would have been a comparison. I am still unclear on the difference.
@counterleo2 жыл бұрын
If both cars had their load removed and were on a flat surface, the unmodified one would have a higher top speed. Torque = rotational force. Extending the wrench arm gives more torque without needing more arm force. Horsepower = torque x rpm. As you imagine if you extend the wrench arm you will be able to move the bolt but you can't really make many rotations per minute, or you will get breathless and sore arms. However if you go to the gym instead you can use the basic wrench to move the bolt AND you will be able to make more rotations per minute. Horsepower is basically whether you can sustain such torque at higher RPM. It's a unit of power because it multiplies force (torque) with work (rpm = work over time).
@danielmuller94842 жыл бұрын
When we want to know how a vehicle will perform (car, truck, train, boat, airplane, etc.) it really boils down to how hard the engine can push it while it's moving at some speed. The reason that knowing just the torque of an engine can't tell us this is that we we also have to know the leverage or gearing situation connecting the engine to the space it is going to move through (wheels, propellers, gearing, etc.). Knowing how fast the engine can be turning relative to how fast the vehicle is moving tells us this relationship. It tells us how much PUSH we get for some amount of torque. This is why power is such a foundational concept in understanding vehicle performance. Power is a rate of "doing hard stuff" (work). Power would not matter if the engine had a job where nothing moved, but then an engine would be a terrible choice because fixed structure can do those jobs indefinitely without using energy (no work is being done). Also as we know, IC engines can't run at zero rpm:)
@Eamesam2 ай бұрын
@@counterleooff topic but you look handsome af
@EpicTurbulance7 ай бұрын
Very helpful, this video should be displayed to everyone new to the concept.
@nishanthkanala2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Maybe you can add a point about top speed and how it applies to both scenarios.
@tycox87043 жыл бұрын
Note to self: The engine is only as good as the transmission it’s attached to.
@Bob3D20003 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons you often see a German car manufacture take an engine from an American muscle car and and build a car with double the horsepower.
@jeffarnim3 жыл бұрын
Just as a radio is only as good as its speakers…
@Blox1173 жыл бұрын
what transmission? oh right, you are referring to obsolete technology
@94XJ3 жыл бұрын
@@Blox117 Far from it...soon I expect to see transmissions attached to electric cars (again) to increase efficiency. There is immense waste in electric vehicles currently requiring a more electric consumption than should be required if we incorporate some gearing. As with combustion engines, electric motors have a "sweet spot" RPM where they are most efficient.
@Blox1173 жыл бұрын
@@94XJ LOL and ruin the efficiency of an electric motor? Electric motors already have all the torque and RPMs they need, why do they need to go through garbage first?
@TrasherFCR3 жыл бұрын
The most important thing at the end was not said: a modified car now develops a maximum speed less than an unmodified one. Самое главное в конце не сказали: модифицированный автомобиль теперь развивает максимальную скорость меньше, чем немодифицированный.
@saxdriver323410 ай бұрын
Só entendi quando o carro empurra o tubo e despenca no precipício arrastando a casa😮. Brincadeira a parte, excelente vídeo e explicação! Ganhou o like!!
@thebongpianist353 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful video! Can I please request if you can release a voiceover version, hearing and watching the videos > reading and watching, will improve the experience way more! kudos!
@antua633 жыл бұрын
Может автоматический перевод криво всё объясняет. Но тут дело совсем в другом - тут просто изначально передаточное число было неоптимально для этой машинки. Модифицированная машинка оказалась и быстрее и мощнее, а так не должно быть, она должна стать либо медленнее и мощнее, либо быстрее но менее тяговитой.
@666777kenny3 жыл бұрын
Так там и сказано
@martyray65463 жыл бұрын
мощность машинок одинаковая, дружок. только одна всегда ездит на второй передаче, а другую переключили на первую.
@antua633 жыл бұрын
@@martyray6546 ну так та, что на первой должна медленнее ехать, а тут нифига не так!
@martyray65463 жыл бұрын
@@antua63 так дистанция короткая, сделай 100 метров и на 2-ой приедет быстрее
@MerryNose3 жыл бұрын
Мощность обеих машинок одинаковая (движок то один и тот же), просто при помощи редуктора первую машинку сделали более тяговитой и она быстрее разгоняется. Вторая будет разгоняться медленнее, но достигнет большей скорости.
@Shmayzer2 жыл бұрын
Вы забыли об одном. В идеале в данном случае вы понизили передаточное число в импровизированной коробке передач. И если бы трек был длиннее а мощность батареек позволяла развить максимальную мощность электродвигателя то не модифицированная машинка приехала бы к финишу намного быстрее. В вашем же случае за счёт короткой полосы машинка не может выйти на максимальную скорость.
@SupaTima2 жыл бұрын
Да. Так они об этом сказали в самом начале видео, сравнив спортивную машину с грузовиком. И видео объясняет разницу мощности и крутящего момента.
@berdmonte53702 жыл бұрын
@@SupaTima ...и превратили "спортивную машину" в "грузовик" добавлением шестерни. Ну и видео не объясняет разницу мощности и крутящего момента просто потому, что её быть не может. В конечном итоге всегда сравнивается вырабатываемая мощность с вырабатываемой мощностью.
@Dornpunzel11 ай бұрын
Man that was some dramatic stuff going on. My heart is still beating fast and my nerves are worn out. Thank you for this. :)
@CliffHuxtableSweater2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve been the kid in school to immediately ask “can you play it again… I don’t get it”. But if someone spoke and used words w/ the demo, I would’ve been good
@manenkoff3 жыл бұрын
I had an automotive teacher once explain it to me as such: "Torque is how much work the motor can do, and horsepower is how fast it can do it." This personally makes sense to me when you compare vehicles like race cars (high HP, lower torque, high speed, low weight) to tractor trailers (high torque, lower HP, low speed, extreme weight).
@TheBroLounge3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good way to put it. So HP numbers really arent that relevant if the TQ doesnt match. So a built up 4 cylinder with a turbo pushing 1000hp but only 500tq is going to be slower 1/4mile speed than the same car with a V8 making only 700hp but 700tq to go with it.
@mrwhips36232 жыл бұрын
@@TheBroLounge wrong 4 cylinder will be faster
@TheBroLounge2 жыл бұрын
@@mrwhips3623 nope
@cnc_channel5102 жыл бұрын
@@TheBroLounge Very very wrong. 1000HP will be faster. HP numbers are actually only relevant thing. Engine can deliver HP with low rpms and high torque, or high RPM and low torque. Either way, if power is the same, acceleration will be the same. To achieve max efficiency, that is to say to keep engine at its peak power for as long as possible, we use gearing. So in case of High torque low rpm, we use smaller gear ratio, with high rpm low torque we use high gearing ratio. Result will be the same.
@TheBroLounge2 жыл бұрын
@@cnc_channel510 Nope. Dont go changing topics about gearing, obviously each car would have optimal gears. Its very simple, if a car needs to rev to 10,000 rpm to make its power with little torque it can easily lose to a car with less overall HP but more torque and a better powerband.
@scott51462 жыл бұрын
In vehicles though you always have a transmission and final drive with opportunity to choose optimal gear ratios. So in the end engine power is all that really matters, because the transmission will be matched to that engine to ensure decent performance (ie acceleration and top speed). There's no performance reason you couldn't put a sports car engine (of equal power) into a big truck, and with the correct gearing it would perform just the same. People talk about engine torque and pulling capability, but that's down to wheel torque, not engine torque, get high enough gearing and you can pull anything.
@scamchan2 жыл бұрын
Like a racing engine could handle pulling heavy loads
@briank101012 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind changing down 3 gears everytime you want to accelerate along with a highly strung engine noise, low mpg, and an engine that may only last a year. Then go for it.
@scott51462 жыл бұрын
@@briank10101 exactly, all those reasons are why it's not done, but from a purely performance point of view it would work. Power is power.
@arcelivez2 жыл бұрын
@@scamchan it could if the power was used properly. That's something that can be achieved, but doesn't make much sense to do it that way.
@scamchan2 жыл бұрын
@@arcelivez high horsepower racing engine doesn't mean high torque to pull heavy loads. The same reason tow trucks are not race cars.
@MarwanMahdy10 ай бұрын
keep in mind, more torque = less speed. Awesome video btw! real life examples are better than 3D animation
@jehinrohit33823 жыл бұрын
Moral of the video: Don't get a car with high torque or else you will fall of the cliff.
@aevans1483 жыл бұрын
So buy a Honda. I have 2 of my own before I get any hate 😆
@Alex-vz2jz3 жыл бұрын
Already got one. An Rx7 ain't got no torque, she do screams
@SssagaBenches4U3 жыл бұрын
@@aevans148 Same here.
@igneteus3 жыл бұрын
0:01 im sorry but whoever pushes from below is already a lost cause to me
@4StrokeShop4 ай бұрын
You pull up?
@VicSellsPeace4 ай бұрын
@@4StrokeShopcurling arm is easier than pushing with tricep
@justinhermann95843 ай бұрын
Up is pulling, down would be pushing
@supremeleader5516 Жыл бұрын
But you didn't explained HP
@reiddywakes-ue7vn6 ай бұрын
HP - Health Points Your life counter in games. (No need to thank me)👍
@WarriorforChrist97166 ай бұрын
@@reiddywakes-ue7vn thx bro🙏
@cckenforcerАй бұрын
Bruh literally did 1:19
@ironsandhammers35921 күн бұрын
Bro be so fr
@lokeshgnanasekar2 жыл бұрын
Simple, neat and great explanation I have ever seen
@LukeEsther2 жыл бұрын
While this illustrates torque, it does not illustrate the advantages of a car with 'more torque', as it neglects the fact that cars have transmissions which can select gears for the appropriate situation. A truck and a sports car with the same horsepower could pull the same heavy load, except the sports car might have to be at a higher RPM to do it (if it has less torque). More torque at a given RPM just means more power at that RPM, nothing else.
@zippo48323 жыл бұрын
При равных оборотах на двигателе с увеличением крутящим моментом также увеличится и мощность т.к. (Обороты * крутящий момент)/5252 = лошадиные силы. Есть и иные методики изменения, но суть такая же
@dimaCHboro3 жыл бұрын
Согласен, это две взаимосвязанные величины
@Groover8003 жыл бұрын
Величины коррелируют, но соотношение, возможно, окололинейно для паровых и электродвигателей. График ДВС гораздо запутанней. Да и как и любой сложносочленённой механической системе, даже в примере для наглядности с “закисшей” гайкой, изначально требуется преодолеть “старшую” «Силу Трения Покоя». Дальше проще. Напоминает людей.
@MerryNose3 жыл бұрын
@@Groover800 ничего там запутанного нет, эти величины жестко связаны друг с другом и формула там точно такая же: Крутящий момент = (Мощность / обороты) * Коэфф.размерности
@Groover8003 жыл бұрын
@@MerryNose понесло в степь. Мощность величина сугубо математическая. Крутящий момент реально отражает эффективную работу производимую экземпляром ДВС, собственно и позволяя произвести вычисления. Пересекаются графики из-за возрастающих с увеличением оборотов механических и тепловых потерь максимум однократно. Хотя? Действительно, для чего городить изменяемые фазы ГРМ, рассчитывать инерциальность потоков топливовоздушной смеси впускного коллектора, да и КПП получается нахрен не нужна! Да вы заговор раскрыли, неиначе! Всех к стенке, будете руководить роющим многокилометровую траншею гусеничным экскаватором.
@MerryNose3 жыл бұрын
@@Groover800 То что вы написали -- это очень распространенное заблуждение: типа момент определяет мощность. А на самом деле -- ровно наоборот. Чтобы понять это, давайте подумаем откуда вообще возникает как момент, так и мощность в ДВС. А возникают они в следствие сжигания топливной смеси, в результате чего выделяется энергия. А энергия, выделенная за единицу времени -- и есть мощность. Полученная энергия совершает работу, перемещая поршень, (а если мы поделим ее на время совершения работы, опять получим мощность -- сюрприз!), а поршень перемещается с силой, которую можно рассчитать как Работа/Перемещение (поршня). После чего при помощи коленвала мы поступательное движение превращаем во вращательное и получаем Крутящий момент. Что особенно важно: крутящий момент мы можем бесконечное количество раз как уменьшать так и увеличивать посредством редуктора (КПП), а вот мощность как была, так и остается постоянной -- закон сохранения энергии во всей красе. А то что вы написали про про фазы ГРМ и тд -- это, безусловно, имеет место быть. Только влияет оно, в конечном итоге, на эффективность сжигания топливной смеси, то есть -- на выделяемую энергию, что, будучи поделенным на время -- опять даст нам мощность. Если хотите разобраться -- вот мои статьи на Драйве по этой тематике со всеми выкладками: www.drive2.ru/b/585162013521495774/ www.drive2.ru/b/589364896718665484/ Будут предметные возражения -- вэлком в комменты, сюда или на Драйв -- как вам удобнее.
@spartanboss41893 жыл бұрын
A simple way to visualize the relation between torque and horsepower is to look at an impact driver. Just look at a drill vs driver and you’ll see
@mooripo Жыл бұрын
Insane ! I wish I had teachers having the same ability to explain
@JimBillyRayBob3 жыл бұрын
Horsepower is simply = Torque x RPM ÷ 5252 If you look at a dyno graph, HP and torque will always be equal at 5250 RPM for this reason. Alos, the max torque and horsepower spec of a ENGINE has nothing to do with the gearing of the drivetrain. Which is what this video focuses on, drivetrain gearing, not max motor HP vs max motor torque.
@1pcfred3 жыл бұрын
1 Horsepower is lifting 30,000 pounds of weight one foot in one minute. Or it could be lifting one pound 30,000 feet in a minute. Horsepower is a measure of work over time. The unit was originally developed to sell steam engines that were replacing horses in mining. I think James Watt came up with the idea? You can Google it. I can't be bothered right now. Could have been Joe Blow. Doesn't matter to the discussion at hand.
@mrmim0x1733 жыл бұрын
A little precision : a truck can pull heavy load thanks to it's gearing. Gear a 500hp race car to top out at 5mph in 1st gear, 10 in 2nd (you got it, gearing it to work like a truck) and it will perfom the same for pulling as a 500hp truck (theorically obviously, there is lot more reason than just torque to explain we use big slow revving motor for trucks)
@need100k3 жыл бұрын
No, it's not because of it's gearing. A 100HP car can have the same gear ratio at top speed but couldn't pull a 60,000 load. It's the ENGINE that provides the difference, with a much stronger drivetrain to match.
@mrmim0x1733 жыл бұрын
@@need100k I am comparing same power. + yes sure a car could not pull 35t, that's why I add "theorically", I am basing on taking a car engine and putting it into a truck for exemple.
@need100k3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmim0x173 - I'm using your words. "a truck can pull heavy load thanks to it's gearing". That's not a true statement. It's gearing HELPS when STARTING to pull the load, but the torque comes from the engine.
@mrmim0x1733 жыл бұрын
@@need100k yes sure, out of context it does not mean anything. And yes you are right, but I haven't said gearing is the only cause for pulling capability, but that grantly help to start, try pulling a 35t load with your 6th gear for exemple (6th truck gear should correspond to a 1st gear in a car (that's a total exemple)), you will need to rev the shit of the motor and probably solder the clutch before moving 1 meter. I was just using this comparison because in the video he say that only torque matter but he didn't explain gear ratio, nor wheel torque, since you don't connect your engine directly to the wheel, but you use a gearbox between
@jeremyreid95823 жыл бұрын
The relationship is : Power = Torque x Rotational speed. Your choice … speed or pulling power. You cannot get both without increasing the power output of your prime mover (engine).
@eavyeavy28643 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation for the formula
@fireskycam98893 жыл бұрын
To me Horsepower increases the amount of bodies you can bowl over when you drive into a crowd. Torque on the other hand increases the amount of the bodies you can tow away and hide.
@morAleks132 жыл бұрын
Вот тот контент которого не хватает Спасибо огромное) 👍👍👍👍
@brentlanyon46543 жыл бұрын
Studying the mathematical formula for HP long enough should explain the difference. Horsepower = torque X distance/time. In a rotating engine this translates into torque X rpm/5,252 Simply put, horsepower is a function of torque over time. Torque moves stuff, HP tells you how fast it can move. This video is a good start at illustrating the difference, but the nuance of top speed vs. load pulling and acceleration is somewhat glossed over. Yes the geared down car accelerates faster, but it would also have a lower top speed. This is why most bicycles and cars have gears. This is also why a big rigs use 10-18 gears whereas cars get along just fine with 3-10 gears...the higher end being for fuel efficiency ratings more than drivability.
@johnthonig88322 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and LOTS of people think FASTER is better than QUICKER. I thrive on QUICKER as I wait at the end of the quarter mile marker, waiting on the FASTER car to cross
@powderedwater47423 жыл бұрын
Gears are just round continuous levers so its kinda the same
@94XJ3 жыл бұрын
It's exactly the same!
@nightowlrally10 ай бұрын
Horsepower is how fast you're going when you hit a wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you
@crunchie838 ай бұрын
Says someone who doesn't understand kinetic energy.