Horus Heresy: How to Build a Legion - Ultramarines

In this video we’ll be looking at the 13th Legion, the Ultramarines, in the next video in our ‘How to build a Legion’ series. Hopefully this is useful not only to those interested in the Ultramarines, but for all Legion players, giving them an understanding of the concepts behind army building in Horus Heresy, and an idea of what each Legion can bring to the table.
The Ultramarines, honourable, resourceful, strategically brilliant, and busy establishing their treasonous Imperium Secundus while the galaxy burns. The 13th are a really interesting Legion to build. Their rules attempt to represent their tactical flexibility and in doing so create a lot of decision points for an Ultramarines play, both before and during a battle.
They have the potential to be one of the most powerful Legions in the game, depending on how one views the Legacies of the Age of Darkness. I don’t usually get into the Legacies units in these build videos, but the Ultramarine Legacy units are so good that it doesn’t seem reasonable to leave them out of the analysis. I hope you enjoy!
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[@remusventanus5341]

Finally some recognition around here. Another great video!

[@DMHightower]

I currently play Ultramarines in HH 2. I've played UM in 40k since I started in 2006. I run a generic Praetor and a Master of Signals for the Logos Lectora, plus a Chaplain with my 10 Invictarus Suzerain whom I run as a retinue in a Landraider with the Praetor. I run 2 Contemptor dreads (LC, LC and LC, Fist) and 2 Castraferrum Dreadnoughts. I run a 20 man Tactical Squad with chain bayonets in a Spartan, and a 10 man Tactical Squad with bayonets in a Rhino. I run a 5 man Destroyer Squad with jump packs, to weaken enemies with Rad grenades. I run a 7 man Plasma Tactical Support Squad in a Rhino, and 10 man Vulkite Culverin Heavy Support Squad.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Locutarus Storm Squad! That's what it is! The names on these things. Yeesh.

[@thexydis]

Absolute monsters

[@guilliman1990]

Storm squad are thugs solid last Ed even better now. 👌

[@reddragon4482]

I love that light blue on them. The starter set looks like it would go a long way with Ultramarines, tempted to get another box haha.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Two seems to be the right amount... 😅

[@reddragon4482]

@@blackbriargaming5483 Big time yeah haha.

[@AnotherMC]

This is a lot nicer than the last one you did on the 13th. Thank you.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

You're welcome! People take their Legions very seriously it seems! So got to show love to all 18 of them :D

[@Donkas]

Subscribed and bloody good vid

[@alextruecustodian6174]

A God tier video for the BEST legion of them all you love to see it

[@guilliman1990]

I had moderate success with my air wing ultras last Ed keen to see how they do this edition. I have 2 transports an will be adding 2 heavy slot flyers also.my army is based on betrayer final battle.

[@HadrosaurHero]

Something I've been considering doing with the Ultras is getting some Volkite Caviliers. The rite of war or the +1 to nearby shooters i thought would be on getting more volkite hits in. What are your thoughts on that?

[@blackbriargaming5483]

For sure! I think volkute will become a lot more relevant as we see more non-Legion armies hit the table too!

[@DMHightower]

I run 10 Volkite in my Ultramarines Heavy Support Squad. I put my Master of Signals with them, so they always hit on 2+ and they do SERIOUS WORK. ❤

[@kirbyrawstorne]

Loved the video as always. One thing I noticed (and other commenters feel free to shout me down) was that the new title card style the channel is using is a bit harder to spot in my subscriptions than the previous images on a white background. The white always stood out against all the other channels and I'd make sure to watch, whereas I only found this video by scrolling through a few times. Not intended as a criticism, just some feedback.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Good feedback! Thanks! I might try a mix of white and the new style. Let me know what you think in the next vid! 😊

[@yagsipcc287]

Great stuff as alway bus 😁 just curious what do you think of Assault Squads HH 2.0 as a whole for any army worth it or bad or just a decent choice to mix things up? Just curious as haven't seen many people use or talk about them as a whole.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

I think they're great! But you definitely want to be deep striking them in a list that can hand out pinning to support that tactic.

[@yagsipcc287]

@@blackbriargaming5483 aw nice thanks maybe that's why we haven't seen much of them yet as well. Thanks bud.

[@Mericaball]

Need new HH videos! Especially on Ultramarines.

[@randyoverland7221]

As an Ultramarines player, I disagree about your assessment of Remus Ventanus. He’s way more expensive than a vanilla praetor and has a worse stat line, he also can’t get the mantle of ultramar, so can be easily instant killed. Any game you take him, he’s probably gonna have to hide at the back of the board or he’s an easy target to take out. Also, his warlord trait is great, but only in games with objectives, which realistically is only going to come into play in two of the six mission types, so unless you know you’re playing an objective game, it’s a big risk.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Fair counter 😊

[@JG-bv6bp]

New to the channel and catching up. While a good video for a new player like myself, maybe some suggestions on how to literally build the legion? “Buy yourself 1 starter box, 1 heavy weapons box, 1 Kratos, and 2 suzerain squads to hit 1500 points and take advantage of xyz ROW” like literally tell me how to start efficiently cause I’m an idiot lol 😂

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Ha ha. So I have a building in the starter set video but could probably do another one now that we're well down the path

[@tomsimpson357]

Useful video, but can anyone point me to a good starter explanation of the gameplay? A lot of vids seem to assume I already have a base knowledge, but I’m a noob who’s mostly interested in painting so far. I want a mother reason to keep painting!

[@finras180]

@Black Briar Gaming the invictarus suzerain squad can be use in 40k

[@Jonahhi]

I personally dont see how roboute guilliman promotes a combat focused army?

[@emperah8948]

Guilliman has led charges im pretty sure he gives an awesome speech and fights word bearers. Im pretty sure the cover for the battle at calth book shows him fucking guys up. I think it makes sense too bc in a melee hes going to beat almost anything that comes his way bc he's a primarch so if he was around he'd probably build his plan around that if he was going to fight.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Have a read of his special rule Preternatural Strategy 😊

[@Jonahhi]

@@blackbriargaming5483 i know what the rule says. I still dont see how guilliman promotes a combat focused army?

[@LordGrantius]

​@Jonahhi it's in the combination of Guilliman and the Logos Lectora. Take for example the Invictarus Suzerains. Solid unit by any measure, add the Logos Retribution Strike to make them WS6(!) and +1 charge. They're still swinging s4 ap2 axes, so a weaker power axe without Unwieldy. Add Guilliman. Choose either Fleet (2) for a further +2 to your charge - an average of 10" charge roll! - or Furious charge to make those axes s5, now exactly a power axe without Unwieldy. Or, you're looking at the table and realizing you're going to get charged. Logos Retribution and Guilliman Counter-attack. The key with Guilliman is Preternatural strategy is army wide, like the Logos. These two are perfect synergies. You're playing cagey, avoiding the enemy getting too close, and then bam give your entire army +3" charge for a hell of a shock. Or Furious Charge for tactical marines with WS5 and S5. Finally don't forget his army wide +1 Ld. If you're stuck in combat, hold the line from the Logos and stubborn from Guilliman for army wide ld10 and Stubborn

[@DMHightower]

Yep. True. I play very combat focussed. I run a 20-man Tactical Squad with chain bayonets, and they always catch people out. In my last game I wrecked an Iron Warriors Terminator Squad using that Squad, which only had 16 Tactical Marines, and the Retribution Strike.

[@AveImperatoris]

How to build an Ultramarine Legion: don't (i am biased)

[@c0ldsh0w3r]

Hey man, not to be rude, but all of these Legions suck. Why don't ya try to do a good Legion, like the Blood Angels? Ya know, a Legion that doesn't suck? ;-)

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Ha ha. Reverse order! I'm getting there. Geez.

[@guilliman1990]

Imagine thinking ba actually any good

[@DMHightower]

Vampires LITERALLY SUCK... blood!!! BA sucks the most...blood!

[@c0ldsh0w3r]

@@DMHightower I will drag my Baals across your Ultraface

[@volcano3493]

Only noobs collect smurfs! :)

[@DavidAlastairHayden]

LOL! I just started an Ultramarines HH army. And I played my first game of Warhammer 40k in 1993.

[@volcano3493]

@@DavidAlastairHayden 1993?! Bet you also wear a white beard, red shoes & a red hat by now. :)

[@guilliman1990]

Ultras in heresy are great 👍

[@volcano3493]

@@guilliman1990 Only when they can hide in mushrooms. :)

[@DavidAlastairHayden]

@@volcano3493 I don't get to play much cause of Gargamel's schemes. But I try to get games in when I can.

[@Guardia_imperial_826]

Make "how to built a imperial fist army" please ❤️.You videos are so cool for neophytes like me 😁

[@AveImperatoris]

DID I JUST READ WHAT I THINK I READ? A NEOPHYTE? TRULY THIS IS A MOMENTOUS OCCASION

[@Guardia_imperial_826]

@@AveImperatoris nooooo, neophyte scout marine,not neophyte traitor SSSSSCUM!

[@AveImperatoris]

@@Guardia_imperial_826 traitor? I am no traitor. The Black Templars are his most devout sons. The Black Templars have been treated with nothing but disrespect but need i remind you who it was who ordered the Imperial Navy to fire upon the Imperial Fists merely for not wanting to agree to a codex? ROWBOAT GORILLAMAN! WHO WAS IT WHO DIVIDED THE LEGIONS? GIRLIMAN YET AGAIN! AND WHO SLEPT WITH THE KNIFE EARED BASTARD? OH WAIT. THAT WAS PAPA SMURF FOR A THIRD TIME. OH WAIT THERES MORE! WHO WAS IT WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE THE EMPEROR? OH YEAH! GUILLIMAN FOR A 4TH TIME! BUT GUESS WHAT? THE TEMPLARS REMAIN! WE ARE ALL SONS OF DORN BROTHER! NO NEED TO TRY AND PLAY THE FINGER POINTING GAME JUST POINT THE FINGER AT THE ULTRAHERETICS AND THEIR HERETICAL GENESEED

[@Guardia_imperial_826]

@@AveImperatoris i mean I a not a traitor SSSSSCUM, not you brother, the EMPEROR LOVE US

[@AveImperatoris]

Oh good, i mistook you for a *heretic*