Horus Heresy IMPERIALIS MILITIA Army Guide - Every Unit & Where to Find Them!

[@Retrosicotte]

The Voidjumpers are a reference to the old Jump Trooper models from Citadel. Veeery old and obscure to let people field those classic models!

[@Ultragamereh]

The Rogue Trader Imperial Guard army list had IG squads broken down just like marine squads: tactical, devastator, and assault. The assault squads had two las pistols and jump packs, so this is a throwback to that.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

I really like this army. Just playing militia vs militia could be a game of its own. It's also a really good way of 3rd party minis.

[@rakino4418]

Definitely. Darth Vader leading stormtroopers and a unit of ATSTs...

[@LordyT34]

I really do love that this list is basically the "Tired of winning? Try this trash"

[@trekker105]

I play 40k but haven't won a game since October of 2022. Maybe I should pick this list up and just remove all hope. Lmao

[@ErikWarhammer]

Glory to the one who wins a tournament with this army!

[@nordicfatcheese]

The best part is that since this army will only be used in casual play anyway, you can get really nuts with it. Use stormtroopers as infantry and run AT-STs as sentinels. Take Endless Horde and use orks. I hope we get another PDF like this for xenos, a build-your-own-minor-xenos-empire army.

[@nestorgamer9746]

i hope so the time of the greentide is coming

[@sonicwingnut]

If you look up the Liber Panoptica project there's a huge amount of work going into additional rules for Xenos factions. I think they're just doing the Eldar lists now but were gonna do Orks next I think.

[@KillerOrca]

Time to break out my old Grijnd Command UNSC models

[@Sigmaprime369]

Omg yes! Third line vehicles represent ramshackle scrapped together nonsense vehicles so well!

[@latros_sacrum]

I don’t see Chimera transports in the pdf, but theres that necromunda Cargo-8 hauler. Wtf.

[@SachikaRomanova]

One of my 2nd Ed armies was spiritually similar to this. A Frateris Militia army made up of scores of Necromunda gang models with autoguns and heavy stubbers, with the minimum Sororitas models to make it legal. I used it in a LGS campaign that took place over several weeks. Marine players would put twelve models on the table and I'd put on 120. They could barely hit, and had no penetration but the sheer weight of dice rolled, my word. Nothing could face that.

[@jaygryska317]

That’s so cool, I love hearing about creative armies in order school editions

[@Deliverygrot]

How many points were that? like I have a 700 hundred points of darkness angels, and that's barely 2 squads, one Chaplain and ezequiel( wich I have to proxy using a metal captain )

[@SachikaRomanova]

@Deliverygrot 1000pts back in 2nd Ed, iirc. Its 25 years ago. :)

[@Themoonlightwolf1]

I love this list in general but one of the funniest parts is that the force commander can get one of the few 3+ invulnerable saves in the game via iron halo plus cyber familiar, something most SM preators can't do.

[@ShieldCaptainHannah]

I'm using the hobbit minis from the lotr game to make my militia. Hobbits with lasguns, rapier batteries in wooden carts pulled by ponies, and old rusted tanks with farming equipment strapped to them

[@pauliusthemad3498]

Makes me think of the silly little wargames atlantic box that is just 40 hobbits, that would make creating infintry for such a force neat.

[@hannahgeraghty4201]

@@pauliusthemad3498 I actually did grab some of them too, but I much prefer the look and scale of the lotr hobbits

[@pauliusthemad3498]

I get you there, but ya it sounds fun (I wouldn't ever probably collect such force because painting and buying that many models scares me)

[@DanielSwindlehurst]

That sounds brilliant.

[@tsoliot5913]

I have a few old ratling sniper models. Based

[@euansmith3699]

Using this list for both sides of a PDF versus Chaos Cultists civil war could be fun.

[@AAhmou]

This feels more like something you'd find on Necromunda, for a whole army, I love it.

[@johnnybigbones4955]

That list is so versatile you could easily make multiple armies and just play them against each other for balanced games if you wanted. Pretty cool to just see how well you can do against a Legion though!

[@peterixon8708]

Ian, so often I stumble on one of your videos and suddenly feel like I have spent my 40k time living under a rock. Mate, thank you for finding a way for my Imperial Warhammer Pistoliers to have a life as cavalry in a Horus Heresy setting. Love your work mate.

[@simonsaysmakepaintplay7248]

"Every unit in the Army is worst" sign me up sounds brilliant

[@nekrataali]

#JustGuardThingsInaGalaxyOfHorrors

[@cakalafatides]

I'm so happy the militia army list finally came out. I've been listening to the Remebrancer's Retreat a ton recently (really awesome 30k podcast btw), and it got me super excited for this army. I'm going to pick up a ton of Wargames Atlantic minis to make my 150 infantrymen and it will be glorious.

[@paulyg405]

wargames atlantic must've read the 1st edition list before they started their company I reckon

[@Bluecho4]

I always have a soft spot for the normal person faction in Warhammer. When everyone else is a super badass or a frightening monster, running your average Joe or Jane (albeit possibly deranged from Chaos and/or high on Meth, Whermacht style) makes what you do more impressive by comparison. It's the underdog principle. On the subject of models, 3rd party is a great place to go. I always give a shoutout to Wargames Atlantic. And at time of writing, there's about 3 hours left in their "The Damned" (of "The Lost &" variety") crowdfunding campaign. They've unlocked tons of kits for their renegade or war-torn model range, from Infantry (male and female) to Ogryn to Cavalry to Hounds (+ Handlers) to Heavy Weapon Teams to Artillery (read: Field Ordinance Batteries) to Command to even Heavy Infantry (read: stormtroopers, Kasrkin, Scions, etc). People who pledge multiple boxes get a TON of extra sprues as backer rewards. Like, I have the equivalent to two whole boxes of infantry in sprues, and that's just from the dedicated infantry kits. I did dirty math, and I've got about 1455 pts in 10e Guard models, at least, for only $154 American. (I'm making an extra Cavalry model into a Traitor!Lord Solar). Come on over, while there's still time.

[@ironwarriorenjoyer5679]

Would love to see an army showcase video for your entire militia army, it looks amazing.

[@JohnR1298]

A really interesting video which does stir up the blood (and trying to think about ALL my Rogue Trader stuff. Not to mention the non-GW models available nowadays 😊) Thank-you, I'm off in to the loft for a couple of days of searching 😅😅😅

[@devinhindle7105]

I wish there was something like this for regular 40k would make a nice way of using my old and outdated mines

[@therealtm8199]

Very entertaining review!

[@catcadev]

I firmly believe we need some of this insane list stuff in 40k. I eould personally like an allied "imperial cultist" unit to represent the crazy guys who come along with and run in front of any army

[@sturm9087]

This kind of stuff used to be in 40k before 8th edition. Sadly it seems like 40k is remaining the bland competitive game and horus heresy the fun casual game

[@morgandahlberg9212]

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! I was waiting for this! Finally!

[@samsolopeeps]

HOOORAH knew you would do this! Looking forward to this!

[@aydengartenlaub]

YEEEEESSSS!!!! I’ve been waiting YEARS to see your Militia, you’ve made my day, thanks Ian!

[@GreasusGoldtooth]

The idea of fielding a Heresy army composed entirely of Necromunda models makes me giggle more than it should.

[@11fladjams]

Zapp Brannigan's army of choice

[@xm0rtal]

it would be fun to have militia vs militia battles

[@Aaron-io8vw]

Gonna create a detachment of Calibanite Jaegers to field with my 1st legion

[@mikeadams3722]

Arvus is "no longer available", so some substitute would be needed - I would love to hear conversion suggestions

[@KuK137]

Stormwolf, just don't glue on/file down all the wolfwolf shit. Or convert a Devilfish with IG guns, would make good pre-Imperial human shuttle...

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for the painting guide!

[@drpretzel2086]

I started building a militia army when the pdf dropped as I had a feeling it was going to be a terrible army but I always love a good excuse to kitbash a thematic army

[@secondeditionwargaming]

Love a thematic low tier army, you just have to play a scenario rather than a standard competitive game. Love this type of video 👍

[@gimlym6641]

I DO want to field endless hordes of really really useless humans!! This IS the army for me!! Wish they were in 40k too though, seeing as I don't play Horus Heresy 😅

[@nestorgamer9746]

they are, we just call them imperial guard but yes Chaos truly deserve its cultist hordes there as well

[@gimlym6641]

​@@nestorgamer9746Unless the new 10th index has the option to take a squad of 50 BS 6+ dudes, then Imps don't suck nearly enough for me!

[@nestorgamer9746]

@@gimlym6641 LoL fair enough

[@sturm9087]

Sounds like the conscripts in 7th edition. A single squad of like 50 dudes that are bs2 and ws2 (so almost always hitting on 5s). They’re also like ld6

[@gimlym6641]

@@sturm9087 Yeah conscripts back is exactly what I want

[@ironbomb6753]

Oh Wow! Just the video I needed! I've been waiting to get my old models into a game for years! This will do it! Great video Arbitor! 💥👍😎

[@life-yi2ij]

Sounds like we need a "Tale of Four Gamers: IMPERIALIS MILITIA" a building and painting then round robin competition.

[@percyblythe5443]

Ive been working on a list of 'em for a while now, nice video!

[@Modge17]

You can get a pretty good proxy for an Arvus Lighter by using the Core Space shuttle.. it’s £12 instead of £100!

[@Neves1789]

Just backed The Damned on Gamefound by Wargames Atlantic to build my Imperialis Militia (and Siege of Vraks Renegades) :D Great video as always Ian!

[@g00fysmiley]

I would love a refined horus heresey they seem to still be on making codex type army books so it would be surprising for a new edition seems i just got my imperial militia rules

[@totallynotraging]

honestly it's giving 3rd edition guard. Being exterminated 4 times out of 5 but that 1 in 5 miracle makes it all worth it! all we need back are the blast markers and guessing basilisk ranges.

[@mikevincent8728]

I am so psyched to dust off all my old human minis thanks to this list. Awesome breakdown video, by the way :D

[@zannsims7902]

Thank you Ian I've been waiting for this one there so helpful

[@vulkhanasennet9961]

I could see these as Household Guard for my Questoris Familia

[@AubLambe]

I love this content, Thank you Ian.

[@Thegamer1552]

I have a lot of necromunda models..and necromunda is dead in my home town so this army is perfect to get them in use once more

[@alexhamilton6188]

Great steer Ian! Looks like my Rogue Trader Imperial Guard will get a new lease of life.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Awesome video. So many units. Thank you for pointing out these armies have no chance of winning. Keep up the good work.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Sounds like an Army aimed at someone like me who got the orginal rulebook back in September 1987

[@WebsterMk4]

Great video. Not enough Militia focused content on KZbin

[@jeremygale4849]

I have some winning games with milita. The best way to play them is with a bunch of tanks and infantry. Also the laser rapier battery's hit hard! Use shotgun and laz gun infantry as well.alchem jackers and industrial strong hold. Lemon russ vanisher's and demolishers all the way! Put a bunch of discipline masters out there with a power sword and las pistol. And watch them go. Yes they will die but man the glass cannon and I love it. They just are a big wall to stop them from getting on your tanks. My force commander is in power armor has a plama pistol and power fist with a cyber familiar and iorn Halo. Fun little model.

[@greengoblinstudio905]

Thanks for the video! Very excited. There are a lot of folks in the Bristol SW area that are using historicals for their Militia. Since the pdf came out, several folks (including myself) have been dedicated in making Levy and Cavalry heavy armies. It's also the most affordable option

[@dominicskelton3031]

This video dropping the very evening that Wargames Atlantic's "The Damned" crowdfunder ends on Gamefound feels rather serendipitous....

[@liamoreilly3692]

I love your videos Ian i love your video's! They have resparked my interest in table top games and i might even start my own KZbin chanel to document my progress. Keep up the good work and thank you for the inspiration!

[@thetraitorguardsmen.5321]

All the pictures of the Imperial army from 87 89 Rogue trader. That's when i started my Necromundan 8th spider's. Because of the box art of the Imperial guard. And the stuff in white dwarf magazine.

[@FrenchieArma3]

Planning on running a horse cavalry force to be allied with my Thunder Warriors

[@philipzahn491]

GW: Guard means alot of humans die Forge World: Hold my recaff!

[@warlordtitan5633]

Gonna be honest your enthusiasm for this army was rather infectious. Its made me look at the Kriegers I'm building right this very second for my traitor guard (shaving off every Aquila I can find) and have unwise ideas...

[@strigoi_guhlqueen8355]

25:56 wow that is one huge army

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Looks like big fun.

[@jaimeperales7219]

Tbh I don't play the tabletop just love the watch ppl play games and lore. But this is a nice army and would look to watch someone play with them.

[@Jason-gq8fo]

Lehman russ. Grayvis 🤔 I did consider this army when I saw the pdf, thought it could be awesome for kitbashing. But my god so expensive! I’m currently waiting to see what that new plastic army might be in winter

[@57DarthSion]

The kill team traitor guard from Nachmund have a medic in them you can use for a medicae.

[@Mericaball]

“30k” is a great game, but could definitely incorporate more of the existing 40k players. Publish Great Crusade missions/campaigns. Ullanor for instance will bring the orks in. Eldar has many opportunities as well.

[@plaguesnstuff7657]

I feel like they could have just dropped that falling back rule and it'd make the entire army list much more viable

[@euansmith3699]

I don't think that "viability" was the designers' intent 😄😄😄👍

[@plaguesnstuff7657]

@@euansmith3699 yeah but It would've been nice to see guard players and such be included in the setting.

[@alastaircollins1145]

Kinda reminds me of one time, sick of my atrocious dice luck killing off my high cost Bretonnian knights, I made a 2,000pts army of peasants plus one knight on foot... and I absolutely OBLITERATED my mates with it...

[@daniwalmsley611]

This is army makes me so happy, it was my favourite of OG heresy, (I bought liber imperium in the desperate hope it would be included in it and nibody mentioned it bc nobody really talked about the army in 1.0) I'm a little disappointed with the rules, there's a few oversights like not geing able to shoot out of the cargo 8... it's literally a flatbed truck with no sides (I guess the poor militia are holding on for dear life trying not to fall off to be able to shoot). But overall I'm ecstatic that we finally got it. This definitely an army for you to appreciate the lore with and just have fun with. It actively encourages you to convert models and is sure to put a smile on anybodies face when playing and is must have for a casual group (or if your groups very competitive play who can kill the militia fastest!) Now I know I shouldn't be greedy but can we have some proper blackshield, shattered legions and knight errant rules please? Some model recommendations: - Palenite enforcers have carapace and boltguns (plastic) and a really cool leader with cyber familiar (resin) - Ash waste Nomads (plastic) make great recon squads and their rogue doc (resin) makes a perfect medicae to match You're probably going to lose anyway so don't try and build a list to win build one that you like and have fun with it

[@Ignisrex]

now, they should give me imperial guard rules to take the 8-hauler and the ridgerunner

[@darthcheese7971]

I don't win anyway so this is the army for me.

[@rakino4418]

Lol that's what I was thinking. Perfect cover for a terrible player like me.

[@tracecabot3076]

Perfect timing! I just backed a kickstarter for the new Wargames Atlantic traitor guard models, and they look like they'd be perfect for this. 30k seems more and more like it's where I should direct my attention; I got into the hobby back in the days of 3rd edition and played in a very narrative-driven circle of players, and haven't really managed to find my footing for a similar style when I came back to the hobby at the end of 8th. Horus Heresy players seem to be running much more closely to my speed, with their emphasis on the modeling and collaborative storytelling aspects of the game that made it so attractive to me in the first place, but my commitment to Guard armies always kept me from getting involved. I guess it's time to change that!

[@alasdairbell4354]

Would there be a way to homebrew a rule to put the commander in the baneblade

[@FluffertonsTheFirst]

Time to assemble the army guys and big hot wheel trucks

[@brandondollar]

Any advice on how to learn about Solar Aux and how to paint them?

[@Senbei01]

Shame that they can't take (downgraded, perhaps) Land Raiders, Predators, Whirlwinds, Vindicators and Rhinos... they were a thing for the guard, back in the day. (oh... wait... you van get some of those through "Survivor of the Dark Age")

[@noahdoyle6780]

Yep, I want Rhino hulls everywhere.

[@LarsMadsen-pn6gf]

Have they ever made a game around The unification wars on earth? Because I thought it could be cool if one could get Thunder Warrior models.

[@euansmith3699]

I guess that Thunder Warriors vs Techno-Barbarian Warlords could be something for GW to dive in to once the Horus Heresy is finally complete. It would need to come with a 1970's psychedelic rock soundtrack, and, maybe, art work by Philippe Druillet.

[@beregondibram2985]

They never did. Only period accurate model is the thunder warrior from "armour through the ages" kit

[@MasterShake9000]

Arvus hasn’t been available from ForgeWorld since last year, at least here in the US.

[@Modge17]

Core Space do a shuttle that looks like an Arvus Lighter for £12!

[@noserenda]

Great spin on "awful balance this edition" :D

[@ArbitorIan]

Does it count if the army is DESIGNED to be rubbish?

[@noserenda]

@@ArbitorIan yep, you dont have to be as stats obsessed as the 40k team, but all the armylists should have a decent chance to win against each other. AoD2 i think suffers from double dipping on the nerfs to reinforce Space marine power fantasies a bit too hard. And thats speaking as someone who ran an infantry mega horde of militia in 1st edition and gloried in the poor meatshields getting murdered :D

[@samsolopeeps]

I have a Navy themed loyalist force and traitor penal colony force. Idea is we can do some militia on militia action

[@kingofthedaynes2229]

I will min/max and drag this army kicking and screaming into competitive play.

[@johnbruce4004]

A lot of this sounds like 2nd and 3rd Guard codexs

[@Nomand55]

I know it wont happen and fills a role no one wants, but i kinda want a true imperial army list. between this and Solar.

[@mikey_vengenz]

I really want to play HH on hard mode lol

[@joanromba6972]

I beat Horus Lupercal with this army.

[@chriskowal1896]

Shout out to the HH players who said 9e 40k was too complicated 😉

[@panzercreed5417]

Do you know of any way to get those forge world guard anywhere? The ones with the hoods. And the Blackstone fortresss guard?

[@ArbitorIan]

Nah, I think they're discontinued. They were conversion kits for the old Cadian kit. The Blackstone Fortress guard are in the more modern style, with helmets instead of hoods, the same style used in the current Kill Team traitor guard

[@panzercreed5417]

@@ArbitorIan You know of any place to get these old modles all the place I ahvve found are crappy recasts.

[@BillGoldingMusic]

What do people think of a turox being a cargo-8?

[@flatheadgg2443]

The stock model l think is a bit too small but if you can find a way to maybe lengthen it out a bit, sure why not.

[@marjoe32]

Its not rules its more like a guide line lol

[@ironbomb6753]

My Imperial Guard won occasionally against Marines. I dont see why the Imperialis Militia armies wouldn't also win occasionally.

[@danielmcelroy8533]

Beastmaster Raptors- Large birds or small dinosaurs?

[@ArbitorIan]

I think large burbs because the crocodile is the small dinosaur

[@Prederick]

Right. So... I'd only watched Warhammer lore videos prior to this (mostly yours) and I'm pretty sure my brain sprained it's ankle about 8 minutes into this. How.... how do people play this game? Is the rulebook less of a book and more of a "Tome"? Honestly, it feels like the rules to this game must be similar to something the actual Imperium would come up with! XD

[@johnnybigbones4955]

Ian's video on the mental load in 40K explains this well. Essentially, the rules started out simple in 3rd edition with a reset of the game. Then 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th edition kept that basic skeleton but kept adding additional complexity to the system with each edition. But if you were like me, playing since 1996, you had time to process and fully internalise each edition (usually about 4 years long), so the additions didn't seem onerous because it was second nature. However, it had the effect of making the game become impenetrable to new players, and eventually lead to another big reset for 8th edition.

[@Prederick]

@@johnnybigbones4955 Makes sense, because I came back and watched this video again today and I'm still a bit lost! XD

[@DefaultProphet]

Wouldn’t ExoSuits be Ogryn?

[@ArbitorIan]

They're not THAT great a match for the models. Old exo-squats are basically little terminator eggs with power axes or chainswords and bolters. Ogryn can get a max save of 4+, armed with a close combat weapon, and you can take either a boarding shield (5++) OR a gun. So maybe, at a push, but it feels a bit weird. Especially because ogryns are Bulky (4) and Monstrous!

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

They seem stupendously characterful. Shame they’re not even remotely effective, but then, the game is focused on genewrought transhuman supersoldiers fighting each other.

[@darnokx9277]

Please go back to "no music during the introduction statement", the way it is now is pretty annoying. Other than that: three thumbs up, as usual!

[@richardbradley2335]

FW '' Lets make a crap army but still charge A LOT of money for it, this way we can make it twice as bad to buy ''

[@noahdoyle6780]

Heresy, it's Marines vs. Marines! Boo, boring. But it's a proper wargame! Yay, reactions and vehicle rules! But Mechanicum rules are, ah...not great. Boo, why GW why? But you can now make fluffly, flavorful militia forces! Yay...? I swear, this game has me on a roller coaster of emotions, and I haven't even played yet.

[@JohnR1298]

They sound dreadful, you've sold them to me 😊😊

[@KelRiever]

Leman Russ Tanks: I don't think you mentioned it, but far as I can tell, there are NONE sponson options for the tank in the list, which is what a lot of people think really is terrible about the tanks. Nobody much builds and fields a Leman Russ without sponsons in normal 40k, and to magnetize or just build a non-sponson tank for what is generally considered a really bad HH list, is problematic. I suppose if you are a die hard, you might just, but then you now have a Leman which is pretty good only for Horus Heresy and, meh.

[@jimjimson9]

Too many adverts ian

[@jackp492]

He’s not the bbc brother

[@peterjones4763]

Tee hee... "penal troops" 🤭

[@euansmith3699]

Col Richard "Sweaty" Balzac's Bellend Irregulars.

[@drizzziit1]

Well this seems very unfun

[@LordButtersI]

Please stop speeding up videos!

[@ArbitorIan]

??

[@Mericaball]

“30k” is a great game, but could definitely incorporate more of the existing 40k players. Publish Great Crusade missions/campaigns. Ullanor for instance will bring the orks in. Eldar has many opportunities as well.